Earnings call transcript: Exco Technologies Q3 2025 misses EPS forecast

Exco Technologies Limited reported its third-quarter 2025 earnings, revealing a shortfall in both earnings per share (EPS) and revenue compared to analyst forecasts. The company posted an EPS of $0.14, missing the forecasted $0.18 by 22.22%. Revenue came in slightly below expectations at $154.88 million, compared to the anticipated $155.7 million. Despite recent challenges, InvestingPro data shows the company has maintained dividend payments for 23 consecutive years, demonstrating long-term financial stability. The stock reacted negatively, with a 1.16% decline in after-hours trading, closing at $6.88.

Key Takeaways

• Exco Technologies missed EPS estimates by 22.22%.
• Revenue declined 4% year-over-year to $154.88 million.
• Stock fell 1.16% in after-hours trading.
• The company is optimistic about future growth despite current challenges.
• Exco is investing in innovation and capacity expansion.

Company Performance

Exco Technologies experienced a challenging third quarter, with revenue declining by 4% from $161.8 million in the same period last year. The company’s net income also fell significantly, down 34% from $8.2 million to $5.4 million. Despite these setbacks, Exco continues to invest in its operations and innovation, focusing on expanding its facilities and enhancing its product offerings.

Financial Highlights

• Revenue: $154.88 million, down 4% year-over-year.
• Earnings per share: $0.14, down from $0.21 last year.
• Operating cash flow: $25.2 million.
• Free cash flow: $20.1 million.
• Cash position: $23.5 million.
• Debt: $95 million.

Earnings vs. Forecast

Exco’s EPS of $0.14 fell short of the forecasted $0.18, representing a 22.22% miss. Revenue also did not meet expectations, coming in at $154.88 million versus the $155.7 million forecast. This performance marks a deviation from the company’s historical trend, where it typically met or exceeded earnings expectations.

Market Reaction

Following the earnings announcement, Exco’s stock declined by 1.16% in after-hours trading, closing at $6.88. While this movement reflects immediate investor concerns, InvestingPro data shows the stock has demonstrated resilience with an 18.14% return over the past year. The current price sits well above its 52-week low of $5.26, with room to move toward the 52-week high of $1,522.64. InvestingPro subscribers have access to detailed valuation metrics and additional insights through the platform’s exclusive Pro Research Report.

Outlook & Guidance

Looking forward, Exco Technologies remains cautiously optimistic. The company expects stabilization from recent trade agreements and potential interest rate easing. Exco is continuing its investments in innovation and capacity, aiming for a 5-10% annual growth in content per vehicle.

Executive Commentary

CEO Darren Kirk expressed confidence in Exco’s ability to navigate current challenges, stating, "We firmly believe that as macro conditions stabilize, Exco is poised to resume profitable growth." He also highlighted the company’s strength in lightweight aluminum components, which is expected to sustain demand over the long term.

Risks and Challenges

• Declining vehicle production in North America and Europe could impact demand.
• Slowdown in electric vehicle adoption may affect future growth.
• Macroeconomic pressures, such as interest rate changes, could influence financial performance.
• Restructuring costs may weigh on short-term profitability.
• Global trade policy changes pose potential risks to operations.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts inquired about the impact of tariffs on Exco’s extrusion and die cast tooling. The company confirmed that compliance with the USMCA provides a competitive advantage. Additionally, questions about restructuring costs and capital expenditure plans were addressed, with Exco expecting to recoup restructuring costs within a year and maintaining maintenance-level capital expenditures.

Full transcript - Exco Technologies Limited (XTC) Q3 2025:

Carmen, Conference Call Operator: Good day, everyone, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the XCo Technologies Limited Third Quarter Results twenty twenty five. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the presentation, there will be a question and answer session. On your telephone.

You will then hear a message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, simply press 11 again. Please note this event is being recorded. Now it’s my pleasure to turn the call to the President and CEO, Mr. Darren Kirk.

The floor is yours.

Darren Kirk, President and CEO, Exco Technologies Limited: Thank you, Carmen, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Exco Technologies fiscal twenty twenty five third quarter conference call. I will start with an overview of our operations for the quarter and then our CFO Matthew Posno will review the financial details. After our prepared remarks we’ll open the call for questions. Before we begin let me remind everyone of the cautionary notes regarding forward looking statements in our press release and on page two of our quarterly presentation.

Those notes apply to our discussion today. Overall this was clearly a challenging quarter for Exco as we faced multiple headwinds in our end markets. Automotive production volumes declined in both North America and Europe during the quarter driven in part by tariff led trade disruptions and macroeconomic uncertainty. In North America industry analysts are forecasting roughly a 5% drop in vehicle output for calendar twenty twenty five with European production expected to be down about 3%. Against this backdrop, Exco sales softened modestly in the quarter with a mid single digit percentage decline in revenue.

Our profitability was further pressured by a falloff in die cast sales, unfavorable product and vehicle mix in our auto solutions segment, adverse foreign exchange impacts and costs associated with restructuring activities. Despite these headwinds we continued to execute on our strategy and maintained very favorable performance in several areas of our businesses. In our Automotive Solutions segment sales were lower than a year ago reflecting difficult market conditions. The key factor was reduced vehicle import volumes from Asia due to tariffs which impacted programs where we supply accessory content. The imposition of steep US tariffs on certain foreign built vehicles earlier this year led to a pullback in imports of some Japanese and Korean models that include our interior trim and storage accessories, dampening our sales in this segment.

Aside from the tariff effects, we also experienced unfavorable vehicle and product mix and continued launch delays on certain new programs, as well as cautious production schedules from our OEM customers. On the positive side, U. S. Consumer demand has been relatively resilient. Dealer inventories have improved and OEM incentives have increased to support sales despite interest rates being where they are.

Earlier in the year we saw customers restock accessories inventories that had been drawn down although tariff related uncertainties have again made some OEMs more conservative. We responded by tightening our cost controls within automotive solutions and despite the volume headwinds segment EBITDA margins held relatively firm. This was achieved through a combination of efficiency gains, pricing actions and proactive cost management. Notably, we implemented headcount reductions and other restructuring measures in this segment to help offset rising labor costs and protect profitability. These were difficult decisions, but they were necessary to improve our cost structure.

The severance and restructuring costs incurred this quarter are expected to be paid back within a year or so through lower ongoing expenses. Excluding these charges our Automotive Solutions performance was relatively stable and positioned to rebound when volumes normalize. Turning to our casting and extrusion segment results here were mixed with areas of weakness in die cast tooling offset by resilience in extrusion tooling. Demand for new high pressure die cast mold and related consumable tooling was relatively soft this quarter. Automakers have been pumping the brakes on certain new vehicle programs, which we attribute to several factors.

A noticeable slowdown in EV adoption and a pivot towards hybrid vehicles, changes in the regulatory landscape particularly around emissions and fuel economy, continued tariff induced uncertainty and a tendency of OEMs to extend the life of existing powertrain platforms before committing to next generation hybrids or EVs. Essentially, many of our customers are deferring new tooling orders as they reassess product plans in light of political and market risks. We’ve seen a decline in order flow for new die cast molds as a result, with some programs on hold until there is more clarity. That said, our die cast business remains fundamentally strong. Quoting activity for new programs continues.

We’re engaged on multiple fronts and we’re totally confident this is more of a timing issue than a structural change in the business. It’s worth emphasizing that while the EV rollout has slowed, Exco’s business is largely agnostic to powertrain type whether the industry electrification or shifts toward hybrid. The common trend is a greater use of lightweight aluminum components which sustains demand for our die cast and extrusion tooling over the longer term. We have already seen Giga Press capacity expansion plans delayed somewhat along the slower EV ramp, but we fully expect those large castings programs to proceed in time and EXCO is well positioned for when they do. Meanwhile, our extrusion tooling operations delivered relatively stable results this quarter.

Sales of extrusion dies and associated tooling were roughly flat year over year demonstrating the resilience imparted by the diverse end markets we serve. The Extrusion group supports not only automotive, but also building and construction, green energy, aerospace, transportation, and other industrial sectors. So weakness in one area is often offset by strength in others. In Europe especially, we performed well. Our Halyx operations outperformed local market conditions and improved profitability thanks to higher volumes, efficiency gains and better integration with Exco’s global operations.

We continue to realize benefits from our recent capital investments. For example, despite temporary installation related disruptions during the quarter, our new heat treat equipment in Michigan is now fully operational and enhancing productivity and lowering costs. As well, our Castool Mexico plant is ramping up nicely now contributing positive EBITDA. Across the segment we have focused on standardizing processes and increasing automation which has reduced lead times and improved product quality. These operational improvements combined with our strategic footprint and unmatched capabilities give us confidence that our segment will deliver much stronger results when the die cast industry demand recovers.

Matthew will now provide details on the financial aspects of the quarter and then I’ll come back and provide some commentary on our outlook.

Matthew Posno, CFO, Exco Technologies Limited: Thanks Darren. In terms of consolidated results, consolidated sales for the third quarter ended 06/30/2025 were $154,900,000 compared to $161,800,000 in the same quarter last year, a decrease of 6,900,000 or 4%. Foreign exchange rate changes increased sales by $3,100,000 during the quarter. Consolidated net income for the third quarter was $5,400,000 or $0.14 per share compared to $8,200,000 or $0.21 per share last year, a decrease of $2,800,000 or 34%. Net income included $600,000 or $02 earnings per share and after tax restructuring charges.

The effective tax rate was negative 13%, it was a tax credit, compared to 27.5% debit last year benefiting from $1,600,000 in prior research and development tax credits recognized this year. In terms of segment results, the Automotive Solutions segment sales for the quarter were $80,800,000 down 2,100,000 from last year. Foreign exchange fluctuations added $1,500,000 to sales. The decline reflects customer driven delays in program launches and unfavorable vehicle mix and slightly lower production volumes in North America and Europe. Broader industry challenges such as tariff uncertainty, recessionary risk, evolving environmental regulations, and consumer confidence continue to weigh on the automotive solutions segment.

We expect recent and upcoming program launches to drive growth and content in content per vehicle. Quoting activity remains solid. In terms of pretax profit, it was down $7,400,000 or $800,000 compared to the prior year third quarter, mainly due to lower volumes, product mix changes, and rising labor costs, particularly in Mexico, where the wage inflation has been significant in 2025. We incurred approximately half a million dollars of restructuring costs as part of the lean manufacturing automation initiatives to better align with current production levels. Pricing discipline remains a priority with new programs being priced to reflect anticipated future cost increases.

The Catching Extrusion segment sales were $74,000,000 down $4,900,000 or 6% compared to last year. Foreign exchange added 1,600,000.0 to sales. Extruded tooling sales increased driven by diversified end markets such as construction, automotive, sustainable energy, transportation, recreational vehicles, and electronic components. However, die cast tooling demand weakened as OEMs delayed EV launches, shifted production to hybrids and smaller internal combustion engines, and extended the life of existing platforms amid tariff and EV market uncertainties. Over time we expect to benefit as foreign non USMCA die cast tooling suppliers face growing disadvantages from potential tariff increases.

Quoting activity remains healthy and demand for our three d printed tooling continues to grow within Giga Presses and other applications. Pre tax profit was $2,600,000 down $4,500,000 or 63% due to lower die cast tooling demand and several additional costs. Dollars 1,000,000 in incremental outsourcing costs for heat treatment, half a million dollars in restructuring costs, and $1,600,000 in foreign exchange losses. Castool’s heat treatment operation continues to expand, improving cost savings and production quality, while HALEX efficiency initiatives are delivering positive results. Start up loss at Castool’s new facilities are narrowing, especially in Mexico.

Management remains focused on process standardization, engineering capabilities, and centralized support functions to improve lead times, quality, and production capacity. In terms of cash flow and financial position, operating cash flow was $25,200,000 and free cash flow was $20,100,000 after $3,900,000 in maintenance fixed asset expenditures. Free cash flow combined with existing cash balances funded $4,500,000 in growth capital, 4,000,000 in dividends, and $1,100,000 in share repurchases under a normal course issuer bid. We ended the quarter with $23,500,000 in cash, dollars 95,000,000 in debt, and $57,000,000 available under our credit facility. Our financial position remains strong, supporting strategic initiatives and enabling us to pursue high value growth opportunities, dividends, and other potential investments.

That concludes my comments. We can now transition back to Darren to discuss the company’s outlook.

Darren Kirk, President and CEO, Exco Technologies Limited: Thanks Matthew. Looking ahead, we remain cautious but optimistic about Exco’s prospects. The external environment continues to be unpredictable chiefly due to trade policy developments. The ongoing automotive tariffs have created uncertainty for our industry. They’ve introduced inefficiencies and made forecasting more difficult for both our customers and ourselves.

However, I’m encouraged that some of this uncertainty is finally starting to resolve. In the past few days The United States reached new trade agreements with the European Union, Japan and last night South Korea establishing a framework for lower more predictable tariffs on automotive goods. These deals which set a 15% baseline tariff in place for much in place of much higher rates that were initially threatened avert a broader trade war and bring a measure of stability to global automotive trade. While a 15% tariff is still a headwind for the industry it is considerably better than the 25% plus scenarios that were on the table earlier. More importantly, we now have clearer rules of the game with our major trading partners, which should help OEMs make decisions with more confidence going forward.

There are still other trade deals which must be finalized, including Canada, but over the overall direction is positive and the risk of an escalating tariff situation is subsiding. Crucially for Exco, North American trade remains favorable under USMCA. We expect that any international trade deals will continue to honor the USMCA agreement, meaning automotive product that meets USMCA origin rules will remain exempt from these tariffs. Virtually all of Exco’s products qualify as USMCA compliant given our North American manufacturing footprint and sourcing strategies. In fact, this compliance is a strategic advantage for us as tariffs put pressure on non USMCA competitors such as tooling imports from Europe and China.

Exco stands to benefit by capturing additional share with our locally produced offerings. We’ve already seen some customers express increased interest in sourcing tools from within North America to avoid potential duties. Furthermore, we have a substantial manufacturing presence in The United States itself, particularly for extrusion dies and large casting molds which positions us well if trade frictions were to ever broaden beyond current expectations. In short we are confident that EXCO can weather the tariff storm and perhaps even emerge stronger in relative terms over time. Beyond trade matters the core fundamentals of our business and industry remain intact.

Long term automotive demand drivers are still positive. Vehicle fleets are aging. Consumers will eventually replace older cars and any easing of interest rates, which we’re hopeful we’re hopeful for over the next year should unleash some pent up demand. We’re already seeing automakers ramp up incentive programs to bolster affordability and if inflation and borrowing costs moderate that will provide further support to vehicle sales. Even with production volumes under pressure in the near term automakers are continuing to invest in new models and technologies albeit with some delays and that bodes well for future tooling demand.

Exco has historically outperformed overall auto production growth by increasing our content per vehicle typically achieving five to 10% annual growth in content per vehicle over time and we believe this trend will continue as we introduce new products and win new programs. Our launch pipeline and quoting activity remain robust indicating that customers value our solutions and are planning for the future. In the die cast arena the shift towards lighter metals and larger cast components such as ED battery housings and structural parts is a powerful secular trend that plays to our strengths. And in the extrusion space the push for greater energy efficiency and buildings renewable energy projects and the general infrastructure is driving steady demand for extrusion tooling. Additionally, the broader movement towards reshoring and regionalizing supply chains in North America is a tailwind for us as manufacturing capacity is built or expanded on this continent.

There will be greater need for local tooling and molds that EXCO provides. We’re already seeing increased inquiry activity from customers who are localizing their production. EXCO’s recent investments from new plants to advanced equipment and automation to our adoption and of additive manufacturing have positioned us at the forefront to capitalize on these opportunities. We firmly believe that as macro conditions stabilize, Exco is poised to resume profitable growth. In summary, despite the softening we experienced this quarter, we remain confident in our strategy and the resilience of our business.

We have taken proactive steps to control what we can, cutting costs, streamlining operations and staying close to our customers, while also continuing to invest in innovation and capacity for the long term. Our balance sheet gives us the ability to navigate near term challenges and our workforce gives us the ability to innovate and execute. I want to thank all of our EXFO employees for their hard work and dedication in these uncertain times. Their commitment to excellence and safety is what enables us to deliver value to our customers and shareholders quarter after quarter. That concludes our prepared remarks for today.

We will now open the call for questions.

Carmen, Conference Call Operator: Thank you so much. And it comes from the line of Nick Corcoran with Acumen Capital Partners. Please proceed.

Nick Corcoran, Analyst, Acumen Capital Partners: Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions.

Matthew Posno, CFO, Exco Technologies Limited: Good morning, Nick.

Nick Corcoran, Analyst, Acumen Capital Partners: Just my first question maybe on the extrusion dies and large bulbs. Have you seen a benefit from tariffs on Chinese products? Or is that something you expect later in the year?

Darren Kirk, President and CEO, Exco Technologies Limited: So Nick, it’s Darren. Let me just take it second by second here because so extrusion dies really don’t face a material competition from outside their local area. Extrusion dies need to be designed, know made, quality checked and delivered to customers in seven day to ten day period and shipping those products from further field really it doesn’t work. So there’s no impact or expected impact from tariffs on like China or European competitors. With respect to the die cast, there’s certainly, more interplay there, with respect to global competition.

It’s it’s too early, to say definitively what the impact is, but just by the conversations that we’re having with with customers that that clearly want to localize, more of their their tooling and reduce costs to avoid tariffs, it’s it’s positive but difficult to quantify at this time.

Nick Corcoran, Analyst, Acumen Capital Partners: Good color. And then alumina is being subject to tariffs and counter tariffs. Has that impacted the extrusion business or the demand for these materials in platforms going forward?

Darren Kirk, President and CEO, Exco Technologies Limited: So again, would say not particularly at this point. Most of our tooling or effectively all of our tooling in North America qualifies for USMCA and, therefore it ships, tariff exempt. And so we do expect that with these clarity of 15% tariffs, for example, in The EU and towards a 60% tariff that’s in place for China that we will see a tailwind develop because we do face a lot of competition from those regions for across our cast and extrusion segment, particularly die cast. And then with respect to counter tariffs, I’d say that there’s been no impact the products that we source as imports. You know the steel tariffs that Canada announced for China are not applicable to the derivative products that we acquire and the quotas that Canada has put in place for steel effectively allow the country to buy the steel at 2024 levels.

So, know, there could be some pressure on costs, but it would be at the margin, assuming that, you know, growth over 2024 numbers is not super huge.

Nick Corcoran, Analyst, Acumen Capital Partners: It’s helpful. And there are some restructuring costs in the quarter. Can you just remind us what the payback period on those costs are?

Matthew Posno, CFO, Exco Technologies Limited: So the research and development? Sorry, you said restructuring?

Nick Corcoran, Analyst, Acumen Capital Partners: Restructuring costs, yeah.

Matthew Posno, CFO, Exco Technologies Limited: Yeah, so it was still some continued headcount reductions based on improving automation, improving processes, trying to find ways to become more lean and improve our efficiencies. The majority, I guess, was in the automotive section. There there was some in the in the die cast and large or the extrusion and die cast group as well.

Nick Corcoran, Analyst, Acumen Capital Partners: And the payback on those, what is

Matthew Posno, CFO, Exco Technologies Limited: Probably, you know, around a year. And

Nick Corcoran, Analyst, Acumen Capital Partners: then, maybe higher level, you mentioned the trade deals with Japan and Europe. Any takeaways on on what we should expect for potential deals for Canada and and how that might impact the overall industry?

Darren Kirk, President and CEO, Exco Technologies Limited: Yeah. It’s difficult to say. You know, it doesn’t appear at the trade deal with Canada is imminent despite the deadline tomorrow, but I think as it relates to Exco, the one aspect of that Canada US trade deal is the continued, exemption of USMCA compliant products, shipping tariff free. And you know whether the tariff for Canada outside of that factor is 25 or 35% it really doesn’t have a material impact on our operations.

Nick Corcoran, Analyst, Acumen Capital Partners: That’s great. Thanks a lot. Okay. Thanks, Nick.

Carmen, Conference Call Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Martin Kim with Cormark Securities.

Nick Corcoran, Analyst, Acumen Capital Partners: Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. Just have question about your if there is any change in the capital plans. So going forward, I understand that you don’t publish guidance, but is there any change in CapEx? Or are we So CapEx,

Matthew Posno, CFO, Exco Technologies Limited: I mean, we’ve been kind of predicting nothing more the last couple quarters, nothing more than $40,000,000 in CapEx for the fiscal year 2025. I think that could be lower, 10% or 15% lower by the end of this year. Heading into next year, we’ve been pretty vocal not giving guidance but saying that we expect our CapEx to be closer to a maintenance CapEx with a couple extra projects, definitely below our run rate depreciation for sure. I mean we’re just doing our budgets and starting to see all that stuff come together, but we do see, you know, the last couple years it’s been launching greenfield operations and adding some major areas. And, right now, think we’re gonna be closer to a a maintenance plus, type CapEx for a while.

Nick Corcoran, Analyst, Acumen Capital Partners: Okay. Thanks for the color.

Matthew Posno, CFO, Exco Technologies Limited: No problem.

Carmen, Conference Call Operator: Thank you. And this concludes our Q and A session. I will turn the call back to Mr. Kirk for any final comments.

Darren Kirk, President and CEO, Exco Technologies Limited: Well, thanks, everyone, for joining us today. We look forward to discussing our year end results later in the year.

Carmen, Conference Call Operator: And thank you so much. This concludes our conference for today. Thank you all for participating and you may all disconnect.

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