Mirum Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (ticker: NASDAQ:MIRM), a biopharmaceutical company dedicated to developing therapies for rare diseases, has reported a significant increase in its financial results for the fourth quarter and the full year of 2023.
The company announced net product sales of $179 million, marking a year-over-year growth of 142% in total revenue.
With the acquisition of CHENODAL and CHOLBAM, Mirum has expanded its commercial portfolio and forecasts net product revenue of $310 million to $320 million for 2024. The company's cash reserves are strong, ending the year with $286.3 million in cash, cash equivalents, and investments.
Key Takeaways
- Mirum Pharmaceuticals achieved $179 million in net product sales with a 142% increase in total revenue for 2023.
- The company expanded its portfolio with CHENODAL and CHOLBAM acquisitions.
- A forecast of $310 million to $320 million in net product revenue is set for 2024.
- Regulatory and clinical milestones are upcoming for LIVMARLI and PFIC.
- The company closed the year with $286.3 million in cash, cash equivalents, and investments.
- Strongest ever revenue quarter for LIVMARLI and Bile Acid portfolio.
- Mid-single-digit growth rates expected for bile acid product portfolio in 2024.
- Continued enrollment in the VISTAS and VANTAGE studies, with interim analysis to provide better guidance.
Company Outlook
- Mirum anticipates continued growth in its bile acid product portfolio, with a strong year projected for 2024.
- The company is working towards the potential label expansion for LIVMARLI and PFIC and international market access for its products.
Bearish Highlights
- Variability is expected in international sales of LIVMARLI.
- The company is preparing for different scenarios if the interim analysis for the study does not meet the threshold.
Bullish Highlights
- Mirum reported its biggest revenue quarter for LIVMARLI and the Bile Acid portfolio.
- The company is confident in the study design of the VANTAGE study for PBC.
- There is high awareness among physicians for the company's drug for PFIC, anticipating a sales ramp-up in 2025.
Misses
- The company did not provide specific details on the measurable impact of competitive dynamics in Alagille on LIVMARLI's growth trajectory.
Q&A Highlights
- Volixibat is positioned as a unique first-line therapy for PBC and the first and only therapy for PSC with pruritus as an endpoint.
- No promotion for volixibat will occur until approval, despite the existing high awareness among physicians treating PFIC patients.
- Upcoming publication featuring long-term data in patients with Alagille syndrome treated with LIVMARLI aligns with Rare Disease Day.
Mirum Pharmaceuticals' earnings call underscored a year of substantial growth and strategic expansion. With a clear focus on addressing unmet medical needs in rare diseases, the company is poised for continued success in the coming year. The anticipation of regulatory approvals and the expansion of its product portfolio have set a positive tone for its financial and clinical outlook in 2024.
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Full transcript - Mirum Pharmaceuticals Inc (MIRM) Q4 2023:
Operator: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining today's Mirum Pharmaceuticals Reports Q4 and Year End 2023 Financial Results and Provides Business Update. My name is Tia and I will be your moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for question-and-answers at the end. [Operator Instructions] It is my pleasure to pass the call over to Andrew McKibben, Vice President of Investor Relations and Finance. Please proceed.
Andrew McKibben: Thanks, Tia and good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to welcome you to Mirum Pharmaceuticals fourth quarter 2023 conference call. I'm joined today by our CEO, Chris Peetz; our President and Chief Operating Officer, Peter Radovich; our Chief Scientific Officer and Head of Research, Pam Vig; our Chief Medical Officer, Joanne Quan; and Eric Bjerkholt, our Chief Financial Officer. Earlier today, Mirum issued a news release announcing the company's results for the fourth quarter and full year 2023. Copies of this news release and SEC filings can be found in the Investors section of our website. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that during the course of this call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements about Mirum, and our programs based on management's current expectations, including statements regarding current and future business plans, development programs and regulatory expectations, strategies, prospects market opportunities, and financial expectations. Mirum is under no duty to update these statements, and they are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially from those results anticipated by these statements. Investors should read the risk factors set forth in Mirum's 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2023 and the subsequent reports filed with the SEC. With that said, I'd like to turn the call over to Chris. Chris?
Chris Peetz: Thanks, Andrew and good afternoon, everyone. I'm excited to kick off an update on the many achievements for Mirum in 2023, another year of significant growth for us and cover highlights for what lies ahead for the company. Our continued progress in 2023 an opportunity ahead, reflects the dedication of the Mirum team to making a difference in the lives of patients and their families around the world. Over the year, we transformed our business with a broadened reach to patients in the US and internationally achieving $179 million in net product sales and 142% year-over-year growth in total revenue. This was driven by continued strong growth for LIVMARLI and the expansion of our commercial portfolio with the acquisition and integration of CHENODAL and CHOLBAM. We have now built a growing self-sustaining leading rare disease business that is positioned for a great 2024 and beyond. The last year has shown the value creation potential of our strategy to drive growth in our commercial medicines, unlock the potential of upcoming label expansion opportunities, leverage our expertise in cholestasis in adult settings and continue to grow the pipeline. Looking at the year ahead for execution on our strategy, overall from the current commercial business we expect to achieve $310 million to $320 million of net product revenue in 2024. This is expected to be driven by growth across all three commercially available medicines. We also have multiple regulatory and clinical catalysts this year to advance our pipeline. For LIVMARLI and PFIC, we are on track for our PDUFA date on March 13. We're excited for the opportunity to bring the strong results of the March PFIC Phase III study to patients with a potential label expansion. We're also preparing for the submission of the positive RESTORE Phase III results of CHENODAL and CTX in the first half of the year an important label-enabling opportunity. And we also made great progress with the VISTAS and VANTAGE studies for volixibat in PSC and PBC. Patients for the interim analysis have been enrolled and we expect to conduct the dose selection interims of these adaptive studies in the first half of the year. We see the PSC program as an opportunity to bring the first ever therapy to market for this progressive burdensome disease. I'm proud of all of our progress in 2023 and the potential ahead for Mirum. We look forward to continuing to grow the impact of our programs providing life-changing medicines to patients with rare disease. Now before I turn the call over to Peter to discuss our commercial business, I wanted to welcome our new Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Joanne Quan who joined Mirum in January. We are thrilled to have Joanne and her extensive leadership and scientific expertise helping to drive the value creation we see ahead from Mirum. We'll hear from her later on this call. And for now I'll turn the call over to Peter to discuss our commercial business. Peter?
Peter Radovich: Thanks Chris. We are excited by the tremendous progress that we have made across our US and international businesses. Coming off of 2023 where we saw 138% growth in total net product sales compared to 2022. We are already seeing the benefits of our newly expanded pediatric hepatology franchise and enhanced offering amongst the patients and prescriber community. I'm proud of the Mirum team's focus on patients while simultaneously driving the seamless integration of CHOLBAM and CHENODAL and this is evident in the $69.6 million of total net product sales we achieved in the fourth quarter of 2023, which reflected growth across all three commercial medicines. For LIVMARLI total global net product sales grew to $41.4 million in the fourth quarter. Our US business saw $31.4 million and $111 million for the quarter and year respectively, representing approximately 63% year-over-year growth. And internationally we are seeing consistent strong uptake as well, but we continue to anticipate quarter-to-quarter variability in international revenue. Moving on to CHENODAL and CHOLBAM. The fourth quarter was the first full quarter with these two medicines under Mirum's leadership, and I'm very happy with how quickly we have been able to transition these medicines into our business. In the fourth quarter, we recognized net product sales of $28.1 million, the highest quarter to-date for the bile acid products. And looking ahead we expect steady growth for these two medicines in line with historical trends. Taking all the strong dynamics in the business together, we expect net product sales to be $310 million to $320 million for 2024. This represents over 70% growth from 2023 with increased contribution from all commercially available medicines. In summary, 2023 was a fantastic year for our team as we expanded our portfolio to three commercial products and grew our presence both in the US and worldwide. We continue to see the tremendous impact of all three products across their patient communities and we look forward to further expansion in 2024 as we stay committed to our mission of delivering life-changing medicines to patients worldwide. And with that, I'll turn it over to Joanne. Joanne?
Joanne Quan: Thanks Peter. Before I begin, I'd like to say that I'm thrilled to join Mirum. This experienced team has accomplished so much in such a short period of time and I'm excited to continue the momentum and progress in the treatment of rare diseases. In 2024, we are looking forward to multiple regulatory and development milestones. From a regulatory perspective, we are tracking well towards our PFIC PDUFA date of March 13th and expect a decision for the EMA in the first half of the year. Regarding CHENODAL and CTX we're making good progress here as well. We've had positive interactions with the FDA and no additional clinical studies are required to support our NDA submission, which is planned in the first half of 2024. Turning to Volixibat. We're also looking forward to our upcoming interim analysis in our VISTAS PSC study and our VANTAGE study in PBC patients. We are on track for the interim analysis to readout in the first half of this year. Note that, the studies are now continuing to enroll patients, with the goal of supporting registration. As a reminder, the VISTAS PSC study will have a Blinded Interim Analysis to support Dose Selection. Based upon the data, this will allow patients from the selected dose and placebo arms to be included in the pivotal data set. For the larger indication of PBC, the study is designed, so that we unblind and show the top line results from the Interim Analysis which will include data on Pruritus improvement, change in Serum bile acids and safety. Both of these studies, represent an important step towards addressing, the Accumulation of Bile Acids in broader patient groups with adult Cholestasis where a significant portion of patients are without adequate treatment options for their Cholestasis and its Severe Symptomatic Burden. I'm excited to be part of this team. And look forward to sharing our progress to you this year. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Eric, to discuss our financial results. Eric?
Eric Bjerkholt: Thanks, Joanne. Earlier today we issued a press release that included financial results for the quarter and full year, which I'll briefly summarize. Note, our 10-K filing is planned for next week as our auditors finalize the first 404(b) and other audit procedures for Mirum. Total revenue in the fourth quarter 2023 was $69.6 million. And for the year ended December 31st, total revenue was $186.4 million including total net product sales of $178.9 million. This is compared to total revenues of $27.9 million and $77.1 million for the fourth quarter and full year 2022, respectively. For operating expenses for the year ended December 31st were $293 million which includes research and development expenses of $102.6 million, SG&A expenses of $145.9 million and cost of sales of $44.5 million. For the year ended December 31st 2023, net loss was $160.9 million or $3.94 per share. Net loss for the year included non-cash, stock-based compensation expense of $35 million and intangible amortization of $10.4 million. This intangible amortization is largely reflected in our cost of goods sold. In the fourth quarter COGS also reflected a reserve in excess of $5 million for inventory, primarily related to the Bile Acid acquisition. For the year ended December 31st 2023, our cash used in operating activities was $70.9 million, down from $120.1 million the year before. We had cash, cash equivalents and investments of $286.3 million as of December 31st 2023. We remain well funded with a strong and self-sustaining business. Our increasing revenue base places us in an exceptional position to grow the business through clinical development and continued expansion of our global commercial presence over the coming years. Now, I'll turn the call back over to Chris, for final comments.
Chris Peetz: Thanks Eric. It has been a strong year for Mirum, finishing with the biggest ever revenue quarter for LIVMARLI and the Bile Acid portfolio. We are placed for another great year in 2024 with three growing commercial products and with several clinical and regulatory catalysts as we strive to make continued advances for rare disease patients around the world. We look forward to keeping you updated on our exciting progress throughout the year. And with that, operator, please open the call for questions.
Operator: We would now being the Q&A session [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from the line of Jessica Fye with JPMorgan. Please proceed.
Unidentified Analyst: Hey. This is Nick on for Jess. Congrats on the quarter. And thanks for taking our question. Maybe looking at the 2024 net product sales guidance of $310 million to $320 million can you maybe discuss a bit more about how much LIVMARLI growth is baked in there versus contributions from CHENODAL and CHOLBAM? And also, comment a little bit on LIVMARLI and Alagille maybe provide an update on what you're seeing on the competitive dynamics for Bylvay if any?
Chris Peetz: Yeah. Thanks for the question. And first just from a starting point we're not giving product level guidance at this point, but really great dynamics across the products and I'll let Peter kind of give a little color on what we're seeing across the business.
Peter Radovich: Yeah. And I think as you think about the component in some of the color commentary there, the bile acid product portfolio we expect it to grow on historical trends, which have been kind of on the order of mid-single-digit year-on-year growth rates. And then looking into LIVMARLI growth case in the US has just been strong over the last overall quarters of its marketing, expected to see it continue to move forward with that team. And then on the international side, we do expect quarter-to-quarter variability there for the LIVMARLI international sales. And then your other question about competitive dynamics in Alagille. I think as you can see from the numbers here it's really -- we haven't seen a measurable impact from those at all the LIVMARLI growth trajectory hasn't been impacted by that.
Unidentified Analyst: Great. And maybe just one more. Thinking about the VANTAGE study and how do Alagille patients go to first-line setting second-line setting post CDCA beyond the rate of Pruritus observed across these two settings can you maybe talk a little bit more about the differences in how it presents and/or maybe the severity of itch that is observed in these two patient populations?
Chris Peetz: Joanne and I can speak to the difference between the line therapy.
Joanne Quan: Yeah. So as you know Pruritus is a big issue in both of these diseases. We have a broad patient population that we're accessing in terms of the volixibat studies. And actually there's -- this is broader than for instance some of the other entrants in this space who are looking at biochemical abnormalities. I'll remind you that, we have agreement from FDA that provide us with the registrational endpoint and both of these studies are actually positioned for registration after the interim analysis. So we feel pretty confident in terms of both the study design the drug itself our dose selection and moving forward at this point.
Unidentified Analyst: Great. Thanks.
Chris Peetz: Thanks for the questions.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of Gavin Clark-Gartner with Evercore ISI. Please proceed.
Unidentified Analyst: Hi. This is Yesha on for Gavin. Just two questions for us. For the first one for LIVMARLI especially with the start of the year just wondering if you have seen patients being reweighted for higher doses as they grow?
Peter Radovich: Happy to take the question. We have published some of that information last year. Not surprisingly it is a weight-based product. And the growth that we've seen published with LIVMARLI I think we have -- we did see weight-based dose adjustments.
Unidentified Analyst: All right. And then one more for the EU business. Do you have any commentary on potential implications of ITCH and refiling odevixibat in EU under a different brand name not with orphan status? And then I also want to confirm that there would be no reimbursement or access impact on LIVMARLI in the EU?
Chris Peetz: Yes. Good question. At this point, we're focused on getting access broadly across all international markets for LIVMARLI and Alagille and having great progress as we see demand continuing to grow across Europe and other international markets. Can't really speak too much to the Bylvay procedure. Other than that, we're making great progress getting LIVMARLI really rolled out as standard of care in Alagille across all markets.
Unidentified Analyst: Great. Thank you.
Chris Peetz: Thanks for the question.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Mani Foroohar with Leerink Partners. Please proceed.
Lili Nsongo: Hi. Good afternoon. This is Lili Nsongo on for Mani. I'm sorry I couldn't hear -- and I apologize, if it was asked earlier, I heard a question, but we couldn't hear the answer. This was regarding the growth expected for LIVMARLI in terms of weight-based increases as the patients get older. And to add to that if you could comment in terms of how should we look -- or should we think about the weight and then the dosage for new patients versus existing ones?
Chris Peetz: Yeah. So the question -- and just to make sure that I recap it here and ask for any color from Peter. Basically, the question there -- the original question was around, do we see adjustments to dose as patients that are on therapy over time through the label. And we do see that over time. I think we mentioned that there's been a recent poster presentation on it. So that is a dynamic that we see out with the treating physicians. And so we're able to -- did the microphone pick us up this time?
Lili Nsongo: Yeah. Yeah, we could hear you very clearly. Thank you. And as a follow-up regarding the volixibat asset, could you maybe comment in terms of what the international growth opportunities are for those assets?
Chris Peetz: Yeah. So a question about CHENODAL CHOLBAM growth opportunities. And I'll let Peter speak a little bit to the dynamic of what we have today and then also a little bit about the CHENODAL label expectations expansion opportunity for CTX.
Peter Radovich: Yeah. I think with all products we continue to see growth in line with historical trends, certainly with CHENODAL recently announced Phase III data for CTS (NYSE:CTS) and potential approval next year for CTS. I think there's an opportunity. CHENODAL has never been promoted for CTS before. So I think there's an opportunity to find more patients through disease awareness and hopefully increasing the diagnosis rate. One thing we know about CTS is maybe only about 10% of the patients are diagnosed and under management. So the opportunity there is to try to identify more patients and put them on therapy.
Lili Nsongo: Thank you.
Chris Peetz: Thanks for your questions.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of Mike Ulz with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed.
Unidentified Analyst: Hi. This is Rohit on for Mike. Thanks for taking our questions. Can you just talk about your expectations for the upcoming LIVMARLI PDUFA and PFIC? And any launch preface associated? And do you think that any patients are currently using it off-label? Thank you.
Chris Peetz: Thanks for the question Rohit. On the regulatory front where we expect to be so excited about the PDUFA date coming up. And I'll let Peter speak a little bit to how we're preparing for that and some of the first opportunities we see there.
Peter Radovich: Yes. We're really excited about the potential approval for LIVMARLI and PFIC. I think the March data reinforced the strong value proposition that LIVMARLI offers to our various stakeholder groups and I think that will certainly help us. The physician prescribing universe is essentially identical to the Alagille audience so there's really no need for meaningful operating expense increase to access it. And we do have a number of patients in the mid-20s who are receiving clinical rollover or expanded access to LIVMARLI, who would be eligible to rollover to commercial on approval.
Unidentified Analyst: Thank you.
Peter Radovich: Next question.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of Steve Seedhouse with Raymond James. Please proceed.
Unidentified Analyst: Yes, hi. This is [indiscernible] on for Steve Seedhouse. So our first question is related to the gross margin. I think you mentioned there was an inventory charge related to the acquisition in 4Q. Just what are your expectations for gross margin in 2024 and perhaps also the OpEx trajectory in 2024?
Eric Bjerkholt: For us gross margin we do expect that the intangible amortization will continue. I mean it's largely related to the bile acid acquisition intangibles, which we're amortizing over 50 quarters. As far as sort of traditional cost of goods, it consists of the actual cost of product and royalties. So that will continue at approximately the same sort of percentage of sales. And then we did have a larger than we expect going forward amortization – or reserve for the inventory that came with the acquisition. So we might have some reserve in some quarters but not to the extent we had in the fourth quarter. In terms of overall operating expenses R&D and SG&A. Fourth quarter is probably pretty representative of what we expect the next few quarters.
Unidentified Analyst: Okay. Okay. Thank you very much. And then just a question on your overall enrollment dynamics in VISTAS and VANTAGE. I think in VISTAS your interim is only on 45 patients. So can you comment about the overall enrollment target dates? And do you see any differences between the studies in terms of the enrollment dynamics?
Chris Peetz: Thanks for the question. I mean the simple answer here is we have patients in for the interim we're continuing to enroll for part two now. And we'll be able to give better guidance for the full study enrollment at that interim when it comes up.
Unidentified Analyst: Okay. Appreciate it. Thank you very much.
Chris Peetz: Yes, thank you.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of David Lebowitz with Citi. Please proceed.
Unidentified Analyst: Hi. This is [indiscernible] on for David. Thanks for taking our call. We wanted to ask about the blinded PSC interim analysis. So besides the dose selection, would you share any other data points at a blinded basis?
Joanne Quan: So we will be blinded in this interim and the phase design so that if it passes the threshold, it is designed to be predictive of a clinical people and statistically significant positive pivotal analysis in the end. So that's all I can really share with you at this point. And it's really the special is developed based on what we know about the drug this class of drugs PSC in general and pruritus. So we feel pretty confident in terms of the design being robust and this being kind of well set up to a productive registration study for us.
Christopher Peetz: In terms of communication at the point of interim for the VISTA study, assuming a positive interim, we would communicate that the interim has occurred and study continues as planned, which would be the extent of the information that we received here on the team as well.
Unidentified Analyst: Okay. So as a follow-up to that, could you tell us a bit more about -- I mean, while unlikely, is there any other scenario like that would play out if somehow like if you see that like the efficacy is not crossing the threshold on a blinded basis that was specified?
Christopher Peetz: So the study design in the event where that threshold does not met, basically converts to an open interim analysis. We'd be able to look at the look at the data, share top line finding of it and what the next steps are for the study in that scenario.
Unidentified Analyst: Okay. Thank you for the insights.
Christopher Peetz: Yes, thanks for the questions.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Brian Skorney with Baird. Please proceed.
Brian Skorney: Hi. On PBC, beyond pruritus, how are you thinking about the impact on outcomes and other markers in VANTAGE? And how can this help you make the case to physicians and patients?
Christopher Peetz: Yes. Thanks for the question. I'll let Joanne speak a little bit to kind of the registrational plan for PBC.
Joanne Quan: Yes. So in terms of the interim, we're just going to be looking at top line. So pruritus [indiscernible] and safety as top line. And as you know, it is a big issue in this particular patient population so there's really no particular therapies. So we're pretty confident that this study, the way it's designed actually addresses an important unmet medical need at this point.
Christopher Peetz: Yes. And just to recap, one of the points made earlier, the eligibility criteria for the VANTAGE study does not have an alkaline phosphatase criteria. So it includes patients that are traditionally thought of as first line that has really only UDCA as on label and still experience the same rates and severity of pruritus as later lines of treatment. So a lot of unmet need across the PBC patient population.
Brian Skorney: Great. Thanks.
Christopher Peetz: Thanks for the question.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Ed Arce with H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed.
Ed Arce: Hi everyone. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on another strong quarter. I have three if I may. Firstly, on the VANTAGE study in PBC. As you said it's a blinded data readout. Obviously, this is as you mentioned, basically pruritus border versus placebo and whether it's stat sig. But I'm also wondering if there are specific thresholds of activity on pruritus that you're looking at not just so much to proceed but also as you think about the competitive landscape and where you'd like to see that come in? Secondly, if you could speak a bit about the PFIC opportunity in terms of 2024 sort of the sales the speed of the sales ramp kind of what you're expecting the trajectory to be through the remaining quarters of this year? And then lastly I'm sorry I didn't hear when Peter was reviewing -- I think it was Peter the numbers for LIVMARLI both U.S. and international as well as the bile acid products for the fourth quarter? Thanks so much.
Chris Peetz: Great. Thanks for the question. Maybe I'll just hit on recap one of the points on VANTAGE and then pass it over to Peter to talk about PFIC and recap some of those sales numbers. The way we think about VANTAGE and volixibat in PBC, it really comes down to this -- the highlight here on lines of therapy and where the various agents are labeled and expected to be labeled. The majority of patients are first-line patients and the majority of them have pruritus. So, that's really the primary unmet need that we're going after. So, showing a significant impact on that pruritus we think will be very clinically meaningful. And that's the lens that we're going to be taking towards that interim data when we look at it and make a decision on next steps and continuing to roll into the pivotal portion of the study. With that, I'll pass it over to Peter on the next two points.
Peter Radovich: Okay. Sorry, I'll try to speak up a little bit here. So, on the PFIC 2024 revenue expectation piece, I think we'll be -- upon a potential approval here in March, we'll be spending a fair bit of time working closely with payers to get LIVMARLI positioned in their new-to-market policies. So, I think you think about 2024, we'd expect a lot of free drug or path with PFIC really coming in more in 2025. Somewhat similar to what we saw in the Alagille initial launch where the early quarters were high path drug. And then in terms of the numbers from Q4, LIVMARLI totaled $41.4 million worldwide, $31.4 million U.S., $10 million international. And then bile acid products were $28.1 million for Q4.
Ed Arce: Great. And then maybe just a further clarification on PFIC. I appreciate the comments. Just wondering given that you mentioned earlier there's about 20-ish patients right now on expanded access. How soon would you expect those to be able to roll over onto commercial drug?
Peter Radovich: Yes. What we saw in the Alagille launch is that occurred in a quarter or two generally is what we saw. And so, yes, I think that's probably consistent with our expectation for those 2025 or so. Question and Answer Operator Message
Ed Arce: Thanks so much.
Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Jonathan Wolleben with Citizens JMP. Please proceed.
Q – Unidentified Analyst: This is Catherine [ph] on for Jon. I had two kind of quick questions. One is kind of follow-up on volixibat and just kind of, how you guys see it fitting into the PBC paradigm in the setting of other approved agents that might potentially be effective also on pruritus, whether you see kind of the combo therapy sort of a monotherapy for earlier patients? And then also just as far as preparing for the PFIC launch, I know you said that there's not going to be too much of an investment as far as SG&A growth, like what else is kind of being done to sort of get the word out there about PFIC there’s mostly patients already know that it's coming.
Chris Peetz: Thanks for the questions. And just to kind of recap the PBC positioning one more time here. The VANTAGE study includes first-line patients, that really are when you look at the eligibility criteria for the PPAR programs for example and how decide gets used outside the US. We are upstream of that setting where when a patient is biochemically controlled, they can still have substantial pruritus, So that's the area where IBAT can play a very unique role in being in front of the other second-line therapies, PPARs and OCA for example. So, pretty unique positioning that we see for PBC. I'd add on in PSC, really exciting opportunity here where volixibat is positioned to be the first and only therapy for PSC by using pruritus as an endpoint really gives an outcome to use for bringing a new therapy to these patients. So, quite excited about the positioning there. I'm going to pass it over to Peter for part two here.
Peter Radovich: Yes. In regards to PFIC obviously, there's been --- there's no promotion until an approval. But I mean I just kind of emphasize, that it's a really small number of physicians that take care of these patients. In the US, I mean you're probably talking about on the order of 100 positions in the entire country that take care of PFIC patients. There have been presentations at the major medical conferences on the data -- Phase III data, as well as the Phase II data going back for years. So, I think there's a kind of a relatively high awareness of the data. And certainly from Alagille approval and commercialization, a lot of comfort with LIVMARLI's clinical profile kind of familiarity, with using it, prescribing it, working with our patient support hub the Mirum Access Plus program, co-pay support, et cetera. So, I think that's probably a fair summary of where things stand today.
Q – Unidentified Analyst: Thanks so much.
Chris Peetz: Thanks for the questions
Operator: Thank you. There are no additional questions at this time. I will pass it back to Chris Peetz for any closing remarks.
Chris Peetz: Great. Thanks again for everyone for joining us for today. Before ending the call, I do want to put a plug-in for Rare Disease Day tomorrow, today to build awareness for the more than 7,000 rare diseases impacting patients around the world and celebrate some of the meaningful advances in research that we've seen in recent years. Tomorrow, as part of Rare Disease Day, we're excited to be able to share a manuscript published in hepatology, featuring long-term data in patients with Alagille syndrome treated with LIVMARLI. So, please join us in supporting the many advocacy groups that passionately lead efforts to support patients in research and rare disease tomorrow and have a great evening. Goodbye.
Operator: That concludes today's conference call. Thank you. You may now disconnect your line.
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