System1, a leading technology company, has reported robust financial results for the second quarter of 2024, surpassing its own financial forecasts. The company announced a revenue of $95 million along with a gross profit of $39 million and adjusted EBITDA of $9.9 million. These strong results were driven by strategic investments in the RAMP platform, international expansion, and effective cost reduction measures.
The owned and operated business, a significant revenue contributor, saw a 12% increase from the previous quarter, generating $77 million. International operations, which now represent 36% of owned and operated revenue, also saw substantial growth. System1's Partner Network business reported a revenue of $17 million, marking an 8% sequential increase.
Key Takeaways
- System1 exceeded its financial guidance for Q2 2024 with $95 million in revenue, $39 million in gross profit, and $9.9 million in adjusted EBITDA.
- Investments in the RAMP platform and international growth, alongside progress in owned and operated products, contributed to the financial success.
- The owned and operated business reported a significant revenue increase, contributing $77 million, with international revenue accounting for 36% of this segment.
- The Partner Network business also experienced growth, with an 8% sequential increase in revenue, reaching $17 million.
- System1 is focusing on future growth through further investments in RAMP, expansion into shopping and subscription products, and a concentration on organic product offerings.
Company Outlook
- System1 provided Q3 guidance estimating revenue between $86 million and $88 million, adjusted gross profit between $36 million and $38 million, and adjusted EBITDA between $8 million and $10 million.
- The company anticipates at least one product in the market for their subscription offering by Q4 and expects commerce initiatives to scale significantly during the same period.
Bearish Highlights
- The company reported a 2% year-over-year decline in revenue and a 4% drop in adjusted gross profit, although sequential growth was positive.
Bullish Highlights
- System1 has seen early results in commerce and is optimistic about the subscription products market, with plans to introduce at least one product in Q4.
- The company is bullish on its international growth, citing success in programmatic markets and partnerships with TikTok and Pengo.
Misses
- Despite overall strong performance, System1 did experience a slight decrease in year-over-year revenue and adjusted gross profit.
Q&A Highlights
- Executives discussed Google (NASDAQ:GOOGL)'s decision to delay the deprecation of third-party cookies, noting it may not significantly impact System1's business.
- The technical complexity of Google's replacement solution for cookies was acknowledged, but System1 remains confident in its competitive monetization strategy.
In conclusion, System1's second quarter earnings call reflected a company that is successfully navigating the dynamic digital landscape with strategic investments and a focus on organic growth. The company's financial performance indicates a strong alignment with shareholder interests, and its forward-looking statements suggest a continued trajectory of growth and innovation. The ticker symbol for System1 is not provided in the context, but investors and market watchers will likely keep a close eye on the company's progress in the coming quarters.
InvestingPro Insights
System1's financial results for Q2 2024 have indeed been impressive, yet there are important metrics and InvestingPro Tips that can provide a deeper understanding of the company's current financial health and future prospects. Here are some key insights:
InvestingPro Data reveals that System1 has a market capitalization of $102.54 million and a negative P/E ratio of -1.18, indicating that the company is not currently profitable. The adjusted P/E ratio for the last twelve months as of Q2 2024 worsened slightly to -1.26. This could be a point of concern for investors looking for profitability in the near term. Moreover, the company's gross profit margin stands at 9.65%, which may reflect the competitive pressures System1 faces in its market segment.
One InvestingPro Tip highlights that System1 operates with a significant debt burden, which is an essential factor for investors to consider, especially when evaluating the company's long-term financial sustainability. Moreover, analysts expect System1's net income to drop this year, which aligns with the reported negative P/E ratio and could suggest that the company's current growth investments have yet to translate into bottom-line profitability.
It's worth noting that System1's stock has experienced a notable decline over the last three months, with a price total return of -29.38%. This trend is consistent with the InvestingPro Tip that the stock has fared poorly over the last month, which could signal investor skepticism or a broader market trend affecting the company's share price.
For readers interested in a comprehensive analysis, there are additional InvestingPro Tips available that delve into the company's financials and market performance. These tips can offer valuable insights into System1's operational challenges and opportunities. To explore these in detail, investors can visit the InvestingPro platform for System1's full profile.
In summary, while System1 has shown promising growth in certain areas, it is important for investors to weigh these developments against the backdrop of the company's broader financial picture and market performance.
Full transcript - System1 Inc (SST) Q2 2024:
Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Joe, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the System1 Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Kyle Ostgaard, Vice President of Finance. You may begin.
Kyle Ostgaard: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the second quarter 2024 conference call for System1. Joining me today to discuss System1's business and financial results are Co-Founder and CEO, Michael Blend; and our Chief Financial Officer, Tridivesh Kidambi. Recording of this conference call will be available on our Investor Relations website shortly after this call has ended. I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you that during the call, we will make certain forward-looking statements. This includes statements relating to the operating performance of our business, future financial results and guidance, strategy, long-term growth and overall future prospects. We may also make statements regarding regulatory or compliance matters. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those projected or implied during this call. In particular, those described in our risk factors included in our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year 2023 filed on March 15 as well as the current uncertainty and unpredictability in our business, the markets and the global economy generally. You should not rely on our forward-looking statements as predictions of future events. All forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on management's assumptions and beliefs as of the date hereof, and System1 disclaims any obligation to update any forward-looking statements, except as required by law. Our discussion today will include non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA and adjusted gross profit. These non-GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for or in isolation from our GAAP results. Historical performance and future estimates provided during this call exclude results from total security. Information regarding our non-GAAP financial measures, including a reconciliation of our non-GAAP financial measures to our most comparable historical GAAP financial measures may be found on our Investor Relations website. I would now like to turn the conference call over to System1's Co-Founder, Chief Executive Officer, Michael Blend.
Michael Blend: Thanks, Kyle. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us on our Q2 2024 System1 Earnings Call. We have a positive update for you today. I'm happy to announce that System1 delivered financial results, which exceeded the high end of guidance across our key financial metrics. System1 delivered $95 million of revenue and $39 million of gross profit. Adjusted EBITDA was $9.9 million, which was 42% higher than the high end of our guidance range. These strong results were driven by the positive returns from the continued investment in our RAMP platform, very strong international growth, significant progress in our owned and operated products and a tight focus on reducing OpEx. Let's get into some of the financial details. I want to start with our owned and operated business. Total owned and operated revenue was $77 million, flat year-over-year and up 12% from last quarter. Adjusted gross profit was $27 million, up 22% from last quarter and flat year-over-year. Our quarterly growth was driven by 7% sequential growth in advertising spend as well as a 21% quarter-over-quarter uptick in revenue from our owned and operated products. We generated over 2 billion sessions on our owned and operated properties, 145% year-over-year increase and a 66% quarter-over-quarter increase. Spread was approximately $0.015 per session. Revenue per session was down nearly 60% year-over-year. The decline was driven by lower cost per click rates in the United States as well as a bigger mix shift towards international markets, which naturally have lower monetization rates in the United States. Now international growth continues to be a highlight with international revenue representing approximately 36% of owned and operated revenue. This is up from 29% in the first quarter. Our continued international growth demonstrates the power of RAMP's use of AI to very efficiently create content and advertising creatives in multiple languages. For example, when we're seeing an opportunity like engineering jobs in India or checking accounts in the U.K., we can very quickly move to capitalize on the opportunity. Our owned and operated products had another strong quarter with continued favorable organic traffic trends on both CouponFollow and MapQuest. In May, CouponFollow benefited from a Google search algorithm update. The update was aimed at eliminating spamming coupon and promo websites from Google Search results. This is not only a long overdue and welcome change, but was also great for consumers as the Google index was becoming polluted with copycat coupon-related sites. CouponFollow one of the most useful coupon websites, full of original content and thoroughly vetted promo codes and Google appropriately gave CouponFollow a positive boost. As a result, CouponFollow saw a significant increase in site traffic and corresponding revenue. June organic sessions were up nearly 80% year-over-year. And on some days, CouponFollow is the most traffic coupon site in the world. While MapQuest saw a similar story, although not as dramatic. Q2 organic visits were up 10% year-over-year. We've been very focused on improving the customer experience in both MapQuest and CouponFollow, and it's gratifying to see that we're paying dividends with increased users and revenue. Startpage, our private search engine also had a very productive quarter. We launched our private browser app and have seen over 50,000 downloads with significantly positive user feedback, including over 2,000 five-star ratings to date across our iOS and Android app users. We have high hopes for the browsers for our loyal Startpage users, and we also hope to be able to profitably market them to new users in the coming quarters. Now let's move on to our Partner Network business. Partner Network revenue was $17 million and adjusted gross profit was $13 million. Revenue decreased 12% year-over-year, but was up 8% sequentially. Adjusted gross profit decreased 9% year-over-year but was up 24% sequentially. Total sessions were $2 billion, up 203% year-over-year and up 33% sequentially as we continue to add partners to the network. Partner Network RPS declined 71% year-over-year and 19% quarter-over-quarter. The higher sessions and lower RPS were driven by the same trends that we saw in our owned and operated business, lower pricing in the United States and a bigger mix shift to international markets. Despite the decline in revenue, our Partner Network business continued to show solid demand from the market. In Q2, our total active partners grew 19% from the first quarter to almost 300 partners. Average revenue per partner decreased sequentially by 9% as new partners onboarded this quarter continue to scale up. At the end of Q2, we had 58 scale partners in line with the first quarter. As a reminder, we consider a platform customer to be a scale partner when they are generating at least $50,000 of revenue per quarter on RAMP. Before I hand things off to Tridi, I wanted to outline our key initiatives that we expect to drive System1's growth over the next few years. First, we are continuing to invest in our RAMP platform in 3 key areas. Buy-side efficiency is driven by AI, second is opening up our buy-side capabilities to our partners; and third is launching new products. Let me take this opportunity to walk you through each of these in more detail. First, let's talk about AI. As I mentioned in the last couple of quarters, we've been hard at work integrating AI capabilities into RAMP. AI enables us to create advertising campaigns and associated content at a scale, at least in order of magnitude greater than we could have in the past. This scale, combined with our improved bidding and optimization algorithms has enabled our owned and operated advertising business to reach a size only a handful of other companies can match. Maintaining RAMP and constantly adding improvement requires a large engineering and product team laser-focused on AI integration, machine learning optimizations and speed. Traditionally, our Network Partners who rely on System1 solely for sell-side monetization. They have their own buy site capabilities to purchase traffic, and they rely on System1 to monetize that traffic. This strategy works well for many partners after a certain level, but typically partners cap out in size as their own buy-side capabilities and technology hit certain limitations. Simply put, it is very difficult to buy traffic at the scale System1 does. It requires a sophisticated buy-side platform. And while our network partners are highly skilled at buying traffic, they typically just don't have a large enough team to scale beyond a certain point. By opening up the System1 buy-side platform for our partners, we expect to enable many of them to scale far beyond what they currently do. In addition to better buying capabilities, we also are integrating new monetization products into RAMP. Each of these products follows a similar pattern. We build a product feature or enhancement into RAMP. We utilize our owned and operated properties and our own team to figure out how to scale the product. And once we have all the teams worked out, we opened it up to partners. Over the last year, our focus has been on launching and scaling a new product offering by Google-related search on content. This product requires setting high-quality traffic to content very highly tailored to specific advertising verticals. Google advertising has been integrated directly into the content. While similar to Google-related products we have worked with in the past, the new product requires System1 to develop new technology to ensure we could scale it while maintaining very high quality. It took us some time, but now we're at the point where we are confident, we have the technology and processes in place to scale this new product. System1 is generating over seven figures of monthly revenue from the product, Google is very pleased with the results, and we now are in the process of rolling it out to partners. So we've done what we always do, use our owned and operated scale to explore and then scale a new market and then offer our new capabilities to our partners. The next two areas we are planning to invest in are two segments we currently are under-indexed, shopping and subscription products. Both of these areas are huge consumer markets where we currently are not scaled. We have slightly different approaches for each of them. For shopping, we likely will partner with large shopping focused advertising networks, similar to our current approach of partnering with Google being in Yahoo!. We are still exploring these partnerships, but we believe partnering with networks is a better option than attempting to build out our own direct advertising network in commerce. We might take a different approach with subscription. We already operate two successful subscription products associated with MapQuest, and we have shown in the past that we know had a scale subscription into the hundreds of million dollars of revenue. We also already operate businesses in some huge consumer categories that could be right for subscription. We operate search engines, we have browsers that we run. We have big mapping services, and we're also big in shopping. So while we will consider partnering with existing subscription businesses, we also are exploring and building out our own products. The good thing is that RAMP will support these efforts with only minimal increase in OpEx or R&D. We've built RAMP to be very flexible in supporting new buy-side and sell-side capabilities and plugging in these new products will be pretty straightforward. I also want to take a few minutes talking about our organic products specifically. We traditionally have focused our earnings comments on our marketing-driven businesses and our ability to scale our overall business by purchasing traffic. The marketing can drive very fast scale in our business, but as we saw in 2022 and parts of '23, it can also cause volatility. Now in contrast, our product businesses are comprised of utilities that consumers seek out and use every day. For example, CouponFollow helps people find promo codes that save them money when they're shopping. Startpage enables its users to search the web and privacy. MapQuest provides mapping for people who preferred over Google or Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) Maps, and RoadWarrior helps delivery drivers drop off packages more efficiently. And each one of these properties is supported by related products, whether it be our simply browser extension, which is part of CouponFollow, our Starpage private browsers or the MapQuest on RoadWarrior mobile apps. Because these products do not require marketing to generate usage, they are distinct from our marketing-driven business in two primary ways. First, their revenues are more consistent and less tied to shifts in the overall digital advertising market. Second, they are much higher margin businesses as we spend a much lower percentage of our revenues and marketing them. The dynamics of these product lines are different enough that we plan to begin presenting them independently from our marketing businesses. Tridi will go into more detail about this reporting change in his remarks. Overall, I am very pleased with our performance in the second quarter. Our System1 team has been executing very well over the last year and it's gratifying to see that execution starting to show up in our financial performance. We aren't yet where we want to be, but things are moving in the right direction. To close my section of our call, I would like to once again remind you that management is the largest shareholder group in System1 and our interests are very highly aligned with yours. We appreciate your overwhelming support of our new equity plan tied to hitting EBITDA targets, and we intend to hit those targets. As our business gets back into growth mode, we're excited to have you along for the ride. I'll now hand things off to Tridi to discuss our quarterly results in more detail as well as our Q3 guidance. Take it away, Tridi.
Tridivesh Kidambi: Thanks, Michael. We are pleased with our second quarter performance and sequential growth trends highlighted by quarter-over-quarter adjusted gross profit growth of 24% and $9.9 million of adjusted EBITDA versus $400,000 in Q1. While the year-over-year metrics remain challenged due to the sequential step downs we saw in overall advertising demand going from Q2 to Q3 of last year, we significantly narrowed our year-over-year declines across key financial metrics and even grew adjusted EBITDA, which was driven by our cost-cutting initiatives over the past several quarters with operating expenses down 16% year-over-year. Now on to our specific operating results. Q2 revenue was $94.6 million, representing a 2% year-over-year decline and sequential increase of 11%. Revenue was $4.6 million above the top end of our Q2 revenue guidance that we provided in May. Owned and operated revenue was $77.4 million, flat year-over-year and up 12% sequentially. Network revenue was $17.2 million, down 12% year-over-year, but up 8% sequentially. Adjusted gross profit was $38.8 million, down 4% year-over-year but up 24% sequentially. We significantly narrowed our year-over-year decline, which was 18% in Q1. Adjusted gross profit was above the high end of guidance by $3.8 million. Revenue less advertising spend for our owned and operated advertising segment grew 22% sequentially to $27.4 million Network revenue less agency fees was up 24% to $13.5 million versus the prior quarter. Owned and operated cost per session and revenue per session were both down $0.02 sequentially to $0.02 and $0.04, respectively. On the Network Advertising Business, RPS was $0.01 per session. Most importantly, total sessions processed by RAMP in the most recent quarter was $4.06 billion, up 47% sequentially and 171% year-over-year. As Michael mentioned during his remarks, these RPS and CPM trends were primarily driven by growth in lower RPS and CPS international traffic sources. I wanted to take some time here to focus on our owned and operated products, which today are primarily composed of our CouponFollow, MapQuest to Startpage businesses. A key feature of all these businesses is that they are not dependent on paid advertising to drive traffic and revenue and instead primarily rely on organic traffic, such as direct navigation, unpaid referrals and search engines. As a result, they provide some nice diversification versus our paid advertising business and the volatility that comes with it. Also, while they comprise a smaller portion of our revenue, 19% of total revenue and 23% of owned and operated revenue in Q2, they make up a more significant portion of our gross profit. 42% of total adjusted gross profit is 63% of owned and operated adjusted gross profit in Q2. For these businesses, revenue was up 17% and gross profit was up 18% year-over-year in Q2. Sequentially, revenue was up 21% and gross profit was up 26%. We recently reorganized our overall corporate structure to more easily report the performance of our products businesses. Please review the 10-Q filed earlier today for more information on this restructuring. Also, starting with our Q3 results, we will provide information on the current and historical performance of these businesses in our supplemental financials. On to operating expenses and adjusted EBITDA. In Q2, operating expenses net of add-backs was $28.9 million, down almost $2 million quarter-over-quarter and down 16% year-over-year. We have been working hard to rationalize our operating expense structure following the total security sale at the end of last year. And year-to-date, we've already reduced operating expenses by $10 million on an annualized basis versus 2023, and we expect to drive even more cost savings in the back half of the year heading into 2025 and beyond. Adjusted EBITDA was $9.9 million versus $6.1 million last year. Adjusted EBITDA came in above the high end of the Q2 guidance range by $2.9 million. With respect to liquidity, we ended the quarter with $75.7 million of unrestricted cash on our balance sheet and an outstanding balance of $290 million of term loan debt under our credit agreement. Our net leverage on a consolidated basis at quarter end was approximately 7.5 times. Although we have been executing well and haven't seen as much volatility as we saw earlier in the year, there is still quite a bit of uncertainty in the online advertising environment in which we operate. So we will continue to provide quarterly guidance. It is worth noting that historically, Q3 has been relatively flat to down versus Q2, while Q4 has typically benefited from seasonal trends, and we expect to see the same this year as well. We are estimating Q3 revenue to come in between $86 million and $88 million, roughly flat year-over-year at the midpoint. We are estimating adjusted gross profit to come in between $36 million and $38 million, also flat year-over-year at the midpoint, but also with 150 bps of gross margin expansion at the midpoint. We estimate Q3 adjusted EBITDA to come in between $8 million and $10 million, up 11% year-over-year at the midpoint. We remain bullish about our ability to execute against both near and outer opportunities and remain focused on delivering financial results that reflect that execution. Thank you for joining us today.
Michael Blend: Thank you, Tridi. We are now going to open the line for some questions.
Operator: Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Daniel Kurnos of Benchmark Company. Your line is open.
Daniel Kurnos: Thanks. Good afternoon, guys. Nice progress. There's actually a lot to unpack here, but maybe we'll just start with some simplistic questions and just ask Tridi following up on your commentary around historical seasonality. Are you guys seeing anything that's giving you pause in the marketplace as you look towards the forward guidance? And given all of the initiatives, Michael, that you outlined, what kind of contribution should we be expecting or over what time frame, whether it's back half of this year into '25, just help us at least get the framework of how you're thinking about some of the new initiatives contributing to the P&L.
Tridivesh Kidambi: Dan, this is Tridi. So yes, I get the easy question there. So short answer is no to your first question. So Q2 was in line with what we thought it would be. I think we mentioned in our last commentary back in May that we were seeing kind of the advertising markets behave as we would expect them to behave kind of sequentially coming off of Q1 that held through Q2 and knocking on with the first part of Q3 here. And we haven't seen anything that would give us pause or across any specific verticals or anything even given maybe the macro news that's kind of been around in the last week or so. And I'll turn it over to Michael Blend.
Michael Blend: Yes. Thanks, Dan. So in terms of the new initiatives, so first of all, when Tridi talks about our Q3 guidance and also expecting the seasonal uptick in Q4, that would anticipate no contribution or very de minimis contribution from any of our new efforts. In terms of opening up the buy side to our partners, that's really ongoing right now. And we're going to start lighting the first partners on kind of as we speak. We're not modeling in any significant contribution in 2024, but we are highly confident that our buy-side platform is an improvement over -- for most of our partners, if not all of them, and we'll let them scale substantially beyond where they are now. For shopping, again, we are just getting into market with one of our new partners there on the kind of commerce side and have really, really, really early results. We're not anticipating scale on that in the second half of the year. If we do see it in Q4, that would be some kind of unanticipated upside for us. And then subscription, we do anticipate having at least one product in market in Q4. One of them -- our first one is pretty close to being complete and ready for testing. Again, just to reiterate, not modeling in any substantial contributions on any of these, but we will be a market in all three of those initiatives in the back half of the year.
Daniel Kurnos: That is super helpful and comprehensive. I appreciate that. Maybe I'll just follow-up quickly. It's probably more of a fun question, Michael. But now that Google has decided not to deprecate third-party cookies anymore and they have really no alternative solution in place at this point. It feels like the whole industry, I guess, breathes a bit of a sigh relief. So I'm just kind of curious how you think that will impact sort of CPMs going forward, what reactions you've seen if it changes anything now that privacy sandbox is kind of on hold for the foreseeable future?
Michael Blend: Yes. So we're not anticipating much of a change. We were expecting that Q4, if they had fully rolled out the cookie deprecation the way they had talked about was going to be pretty volatile for a lot of people in market. Obviously, that's not going to happen now. But Dan, I know you and I talked about this in the past, we weren't really surprised to see Google take that stance and kind of indefinitely delay things. We've been hearing rumblings in the market. I've been hearing a lot of the testing that will be being done and they really simply hadn't been able to come up with a replacement that was that competitive with current cookie solutions. What we are hearing and what I think some of the testing is starting to show is that the solution that Google has come up with is starting to get fairly competitive on the monetization side. It's just technically pretty complex to implement. So again, like, I guess, it doesn't really affect our stance and what we think our business is going to do. We do think the industry as a whole, a lot of people were, I think, probably more concerned about the effects that they were letting on and I'm sure they're breathing like a bit of a sigh relief.
Daniel Kurnos: Last for me, Michael, I'll step aside. I always ask you about international, you always tell me it's on the come, and you highlighted it this quarter. So just love to hear if there's particular GEOS, you've been able to target particular verticals in international where you've had success. And how much you think that will be a contributing factor to what should be accelerating growth in the '25?
Michael Blend: We're pretty bullish right now on international. We've had a lot of success in programmatic markets over the last couple of quarters. We've been scaling up, in particular, our relationship with TikTok and Pengo. Pengo is their programmatic network that's attached to the TikTok overall business. And we're seeing that across almost all international markets. We're seeing it in Asia, South America, a bit in Europe as well. So I would say that if current trends continue, we're going to continue to see pretty rapid growth in our international business, continuing to take overall more and more of a contribution to our overall revenue. And right now, if you ask me, I don't think those trends are going to slow down. We've been tuning our platform to focus more international. There's a lot of idiosyncratic things you have to do to really attack the programmatic market, particularly internationally. But we think we've got those things figured out, and we see a lot of growth ahead of us, and it's starting to kick in already. So not on the comp anymore. We're actually seeing it.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the conference back over to Michael Blend for closing remarks.
Michael Blend: Okay. Great. Well, thanks, everybody, for joining us today. As we tried to make clear in our remarks today, things are really starting to move in the right direction here at System1. Overall, our team is executing really well. Our major customers are pleased both on our partner side and also on our revenue side. And overall, we're seeing some decent stability in the digital advertising market, which is what we've been looking for over here for the last 1.5 years. And some things are looking pretty good. We're looking forward to have you join us again for Q3 earnings, and we are definitely hoping out some good news to report for you then as well. So thank you for joining.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
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