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On Wednesday, 10 September 2025, Artivion Inc. (NYSE:AORT) showcased its strategic vision at the Morgan Stanley 23rd Annual Global Healthcare Conference. The company highlighted its robust growth strategy, focusing on innovative aortic technologies and financial targets. While emphasizing its competitive edge and product pipeline, Artivion also acknowledged challenges such as regulatory pathways and market dynamics.
Key Takeaways
- Artivion aims for $440 million in revenue for 2025 with a 20% EBITDA margin.
- The company is focusing on high-margin, PMA-protected products like AMDS.
- A planned acquisition of Endospan could enhance Artivion’s market position.
- Artivion expects a shift towards a higher proportion of U.S. revenue in 3-5 years.
- Ongoing R&D investments are crucial for maintaining competitive advantage.
Financial Results
- Revenue Target: $440 million for the year, with double-digit growth expected.
- EBITDA Margin: Approximately 20%, with a goal to grow EBITDA at twice the sales rate.
- Gross Margin: Current average of 65%, with AMDS expected to exceed 90%.
- R&D Spending: Approximately 7% to 8% of revenue.
- Capital Allocation: Focused on acquiring Endospan and reducing debt.
Operational Updates
- AMDS Launch: Progressing with positive feedback from initial implantations; PMA approval expected by mid-next year.
- On-X Aortic Heart Valve: Grew 22% in Q2; marketing campaign planned to boost awareness.
- Arsivo: Trial underway with potential market expansion in the U.S. and Japan.
- Nexus: Collaboration with Endospan; one-year data to be presented in January.
Future Outlook
- Strategic Priorities: Maintain leadership in aortic technologies and achieve significant revenue and EBITDA growth.
- Product Pipeline: New PMA products expected every 12 to 18 months.
- Geographic Expansion: Increasing focus on U.S. market growth for key products.
Q&A Highlights
- AMDS Launch: Sequential growth expected; positive early results.
- On-X Valve: Continued growth anticipated with new data and marketing efforts.
- Endospan Acquisition: Contingent on FDA approval of Nexus; decision pending.
Artivion’s comprehensive strategy and focus on aortic innovations position it as a compelling investment opportunity. For a detailed understanding, readers are encouraged to review the full transcript.
Full transcript - Morgan Stanley 23rd Annual Global Healthcare Conference:
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: If you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley sales representative. We are here with Pat Mackin and Lance Berry, CEO and CFO of Artivion. Thank you very much for being here with us.
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Thanks for having us.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Yeah, absolutely. Maybe before we take a deep dive into your recent performance, it’d be great if you could speak a little bit to those unfamiliar with the audience, you know, what Artivion is about, and if you could provide a brief overview.
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Sure, I’ll do a quick intro. We’re an aorta-focused company. Specifically, we have heart valves for patients under the age of 65. We have a number of products to treat aortic aneurysms and dissections. We’re a little over $400 million. I think midpoint of our guidance is $440 million for this year, and about a 20% EBITDA margin company. We have a portfolio of really highly differentiated PMA-protected products, and we have a pipeline of a series of additional PMA products. From a financial objective standpoint, what we tell people is our goal is to grow the business double digits for the foreseeable future and to grow EBITDA at twice the rate of sales. You have really good leverage opportunity. We have, like most companies our size, a good opportunity to leverage G&A.
We also have a leverageable sales force because our reps don’t have to stand in all the cases. Our pipeline of products really are for the U.S. and those will carry higher gross margins than our current gross margin average. We should have a gross margin expansion opportunity as well. That’s a real high level on Artivion.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Awesome. Thank you. I guess maybe diving a bit into your guidance. We obviously have your 2025 guidance out there. There’s an implied acceleration in the second half of 2025. Could you talk about what’s driving your confidence that you’re going to be able to accelerate in the second half of 2025?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, so there’s a few things. Number one, and we said it when we gave our guidance back in February, you know, we launched AMDS under this HDE format, and getting through value analysis committees was going to take some time, and that we expected each quarter to be better sequentially. That would imply that you’re going to have a better second half than first half. Clearly, the AMDS launch is one of them. We’ve also got our fourth quarter comp is quite easy because that was our cyber attack last year. We’ve also got, you know, the On-X performance that you’ve seen post this new data. We expect to, you know, continue as well. I don’t know if there’s anything else you would add there.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Yeah, I mean, I think those are the big drivers. Understood. You mentioned this at the beginning, but on top of the exciting growth, you’re also saying that your EBITDA is going to grow at twice the rate. Maybe could you talk about what gives you confidence that you’ll be able to meet that?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: I think, first of all, if you go back and look over the past couple of years, we’ve pretty consistently had EBITDA margin expansion of 200 to 300 basis points each year, and that’s really been with no gross margin expansion. We still feel like we have plenty of leverage opportunity in our sales and marketing and our G&A. With AMDS, first of these pipeline products coming to the U.S., it is significantly higher gross margin than our current average. Right now, total company, we’re about 65%. It’s a 90+% gross margin product. Now we’re going to add gross margin expansion into the formula, which is just going to make it easier for us to hit that two legs EBITDA growth target.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Yep, understood. Maybe shifting a bit into your portfolio. Your mechanical valve business has seen some pretty durable growth. I think, most recently in the last quarter, you mentioned that a lot of the growth was driven by cross-selling opportunities from the initial AMDS launch. Could you maybe help us understand what exactly that means and how should we look as we look forward if we should continue expecting this?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, so On-X has been a great story for the company and for patients. I think there’s probably three or four things that are driving On-X. You mentioned one of them. Before the beginning of the year, we had, I think it was about a year ago, we presented the post-approval data in 500 patients, which showed an 87% reduction in major bleeding for the valve. We’d done some research on that and showed that we continue to take market share. We kind of already had that in our favor. In January, we were surprised by a big paper, 109,000 patients, that was presented back in January at STS.
That was a paper that was published in JACC, the Journal of the American College of Cardiology, that basically showed that if you get a mechanical valve versus a tissue saver valve under the age of 60, the benefit from a mortality standpoint was towards mechanical valves. We were not involved with the paper. It was presented and published out of UCLA. That was an extremely positive piece of information. We saw the market, our business, kind of take off right after that. The third thing you mentioned is also the cross-selling. We’re training all these surgeons on AMDS in a thousand centers over the next several years. When we get in front of them, we can present the data. It’s kind of the combination of the post-approval data, the JACC data, the cross-selling.
When you put that all together, we’ve been growing that business 13% a year for the last 10 years. It just, I think, is going to allow us to continue to do that.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Do you think that that sort of double-digit growth going forward is what people can expect?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, we haven’t given long-term guidance, but, I mean, you know, in February, it’s pretty new. I’d say the other piece of information on that is we didn’t do anything in the second quarter from a marketing standpoint because we’re obviously focused on the AMDS Hybrid Prosthesis launch. On-X Aortic Heart Valve grew 22% worldwide. We have a big marketing campaign we’re about to kick off to focus on getting that information out to cardiologists, which takes time. We’re one quarter in, but, you know, we’ll be able to give further updates as we go through the upcoming quarters. Yeah, it’s certainly very positive and a real tailwind.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Perfect. Maybe, you know, you touch on AMDS. Can you maybe talk about what acute type A aortic dissection is and how AMDS has been a fundamentally changing treatment paradigm?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, so acute type A dissection is a, you know, it’s a very, it’s acute. It’s a very emergency procedure. You get a tear in the ascending part of the aorta. What happens is you get basically a false aorta and you have blood going down basically the wrong pathway and it’s not getting to your brain, your kidneys, your spine. It’s a very serious situation. You know, roughly a third of the people die and then almost two thirds of the people either have some major issue, a heart attack, a stroke, paralysis, or death. That’s the procedure. It’s basically the same procedure that’s been done for 50 years. You remove the diseased or torn part of the aorta and replace it with a simple surgical graft. The problem is you still have blood going down the wrong areas of the aorta. AMDS is a really straightforward device.
It’s open surgery and you, under direct line of sight, put AMDS into the aorta and then deploy the stent and it pushes the wall of the true aorta back to where it needs to be and gets all the blood flowing into all the right places. It had pretty amazing results in the clinical study. I think we’ve continued to see that early on in the launch in real life application. I’m really excited about what the product can do longer term.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Could you maybe double click on the clinical trial results? I know you mentioned you’re positive, but maybe give us a little bit more context of what you saw in some of the data.
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, I can jump in. I mean, the big takeaway, right? In the trial, it was specifically done, it was the U.S. FDA trial, was 93 patients against kind of the body of evidence that’s been out there to date. Mortality in a malperfusion, this is what Lance described as when blood’s not going where it’s supposed to go. Mortality is about 35%. We showed a 9.7% mortality rate in the trial. Just on that, the stroke, patients requiring dialysis, paralysis, all significantly lower. Really kind of across the board on all those endpoints, you know, it’s a life-saving, life-changing device.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Yeah, fair enough. I guess now that with the launch ongoing, anything that you can tell us about how it’s going so far? Any green shoots that we can look for to measure success?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, so we gave a little bit of information on our first quarter call around the significant number of accounts that we had in the process of seeking an IRB approval, which is a requirement of the HDE, and getting through value analysis committee, which honestly is the longer lead time item most of the time. We have a large number of accounts that are in the process. I think you can tell looking at our numbers, our growth rate accelerated from Q1 to Q2. I think there’s some indication in the stent graft line in particular where, you know, probably a larger contribution from AMDS. We didn’t break it out specifically. We’ve also given, I think most importantly, some qualitative comments around how the first implantations have gone. We’re getting patient and feedback every time one of these things is being implanted in a patient.
So far, really, all the results have been outstanding. We’re really batting a thousand right now. That won’t always be the case. All med devices have some level of, you know, less than desired outcome. Right now, it’s off to a great start clinically, which I think is probably the most important thing for long-term success.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Great. As we think about the future regulatory pathway there, is there anything else that, as we think about timing for the PMA, et cetera, are you?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, we’re basically, we’ve got one module left, which we’ve communicated publicly that we expect it in Q2 of next year. That would basically get the PMA, so the HDE would go away, which the only real change is we’d no longer have to have an IRB to get into a center.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: You said middle of next year is when you’re expecting.
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Great. Maybe pivoting to another product that you just got FDA approval as well, or you got approval to initiate the Arisan trial, right? Can you maybe tell us about that and how you’re thinking about, you know, the trial and timing, et cetera?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, so the trial is called Arisan and the product’s called Arsivo. This is our third-generation frozen elephant trunk, which is basically a device that’s used to replace the entire aortic arch. It’s for, it can be for acute type A dissections, chronic dissections, or aneurysms, anything that involves kind of the arch off the heart and the head vessels. We’ve been a leader in that field internationally for a decade. We sell that product kind of around the world, not in the U.S. or Japan. That’s really what this trial is going to seek to get approval for. It’s about a 125-patient trial, centers in the U.S., Europe. We’ve gotten approval to start the trial. The unique technology in this device is it’s the very first device of its kind that actually has a branch that goes into one of the head vessels, which is called the subclavian.
We think that’ll actually make the procedure faster. Because these patients are on the heart-lung machine, it’ll basically reduce morbidity and mortality by speeding up the operation. We hope to have our first implant in the second half of this year before the year end. Our clinicians are super excited about the technology. It’s really a cutting-edge, another cutting-edge breakthrough aortic technology.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Does it open any more TAM for any patient population?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: It’ll open TAM obviously in the U.S. and Japan, assuming we can get the, you know, we typically are able to use the U.S. trial to get into Japan, but we always have to have those conversations. It clearly opens up those two. The other thing it does is it gets you, you know, FDA clinical data. We’ll be able to take that trial and get that product approved in Europe. The predecessor product’s already in Europe and in many other countries around the world, but we can take that FDA trial and get Arsivo approved in many markets and market that data. I think the trial, it’s being done in the top centers in the country and in the top, I think, top five centers in Europe.
With that kind of, you know, clinician involved with the technology, it will really get the word around kind of the world about this technology when it comes out.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: there any way that you could sort of quantify a bit more of what the TAM could be?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, I think that we have the TAMs are out there on our slide.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Yeah, it’s in our slide.
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: I think it’s 75 in the U.S. and another 70 or 50 to 70 in Japan.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Great. Maybe moving to one of your other products, Nexus, can you maybe talk about, you know, overview of Nexus and your relationship with Endospan and sort of some of the data releases that they’ve had recently?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, I’ll come in on the data and I’ll let Lance talk about the relationship. Nexus is, and you know, interesting, all the technologies we’re talking about from AMDS to Arsivo to Nexus, these are all used in the arch. It’s a cutting-edge area, if you will. It’s really nascent. We’ve really, as a company, that’s been our focus, is really the cutting-edge technology into the aortic arch. We’re a leader in that space. Nexus is a catheter delivery. Both AMDS and Arsivo are done in open surgery under direct vision where you’re putting a stent into the aorta. Nexus is a catheter, fully catheter delivered from the groin. The current generation that we’re bringing to the U.S., or the first generation, is a branch in the first branch, which is the innominate. That trial has completed. The 30-day data was presented in May.
We expect to have the one-year data at the STS in January in New Orleans. I think it’s the last weekend in New Orleans. That will really be the last piece of information before the FDA approval or not. I think people will have all the information they need to see about, you know, how Nexus is performing in that space. We think this is a platform technology. This is the first step. We’ve got many things coming behind it. I think there’s two or three more PMAs right behind it with various kind of configurations of that platform. We’re very excited about it. The 30-day data was excellent. We’ll wait to see the one-year data and we’ll comment when that becomes public in January. We’re very excited. I’ll let Lance explain kind of the relationship.
Lance Berry, CFO, Artivion: Yeah, so we’ve had a partnership with Endospan for a number of years where, A, we distribute the product in Europe, which has been great because we see the product in use every day and are getting to really understand the technology. We also have an option to purchase Endospan. We have 90 days post-approval where we can exercise that option. Purchase price of $135 million upfront, and then there is an earnout two and a half times year two revenue. That’s kind of the basic parameters of our relationship with Endospan.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Understood. I guess now that we’ve seen the data, how does that change your thinking in terms of exercising the option for Endospan?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: The first point is that to acquire them, they have to get FDA approval. The onus is on them to get the approval. What we’ve seen in the 30-day data was excellent. There’s one product approved in the U.S. right now, and our 30-day data was very strong compared to that. If that’s the proxy, it looks pretty good, and we’re very excited about the technology, but they’ve got to get the approval. Once they do that, then we’ll decide what happens next.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Yeah, no, fair enough. Maybe, you know, in that same vein, obviously a lot of exciting organic growth internally, but as you think about maybe longer term, how are you thinking about your capital allocation?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, I think, hopefully we need some capital to acquire Endospan. That would be step one. I’d say that’s really from an M&A standpoint, that’s the one piece of M&A that’s definitely on our radar screen. We don’t feel like we need M&A to hit those financial objectives that I laid out at the kickoff to this fireside chat. We do want to stay the leader in these differentiated technologies for the aorta, particularly the arch. Right now, those differentiated things are all in our pipeline, with the exception of the Nexus device. The main purpose for capital allocation, other than hopefully funding the Endospan deal, is probably pay down debt. We get a little further out and we can reassess that. That’s where we are right now.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Fair enough. Any thoughts of, you know, any share repurchases or anything along those lines?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: I would say it’s probably not quite flush enough with cash to be thinking about a share repurchase, but that’s aspirational. I love it. Let’s hopefully we get there soon.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Fair enough. I guess maybe, as you think about your investment thesis, you talk about continuing being a leader in aorta. What do you think makes you all so unique, or what’s the most underappreciated part of your thesis that you would like people to know about?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, I think it’s the focus on the aorta. I mean, I think as a smaller size company, as Lance said, we’re in the $440 million range this year as midpoint of our guidance. Very profitable. We’re growing double digits, top and bottom line, cash flow positive. We basically have seven PMAs if we acquire Endospan. We’ve got three or four in our kind of current company, and if we acquire them, it’ll add another three. Seven PMAs, I don’t need to buy anything. I can spend around 7% to 8% on R&D and have a PMA come every two years. The odd year gets into Japan. This is like a decade-long kind of opportunity. I think the unique thing about the company is the focus on the aorta.
These are largely the same customers, the same hospitals, and the same diseases with a multitude of technologies, just using in different ways in different places, depending on what the patient needs. I think the combination of that makes a very unique company. I don’t think there’s a lot of companies. I think if folks do their screens on growing, you know, double digit top and bottom or profits twice as fast and all the things I already rattled off, I mean, it’s a pretty unique company.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Yeah, fair enough. I guess maybe in terms of as you look at it in the competitive landscape, anything that either any competitors that you see out there that you’re concerned about, or anything in the landscape that people should be looking out for?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: I mean, it’s one of our kind of mantras is when we get involved in a technology, we have to have competitive advantage. We don’t like playing in markets where we don’t have competitive advantage. Now, you don’t always know it when you do a trial because you got to wait for the data to come out. If you look at the On-X Aortic Heart Valve, I mean, we absolutely have competitive advantage. We have a much bigger competitor and we take share from them. If you look at our pulmonary valve, we’re the only ones with a decellularized valve with outstanding data. Nobody else has it. It’s kind of the same thing when you go through like very few competitors. If we do have a competitor, we have better technology.
Yeah, I mean, we’re always paying attention to what competition’s up to, but you know, so far I feel pretty good about what we’ve got in our bag.
Lance Berry, CFO, Artivion: The other thing that’s great too, these are all PMA products.
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Right, yep.
Lance Berry, CFO, Artivion: It’s a pretty high barrier for competitive entry. I think because of that, in general, we have few competitors in each of our segments, and we also get a very long lead time heads up if there’s one coming.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Yeah, fair enough. Do you think that there’s any products in the portfolio that the street is underappreciating as you look out at the projections out there or, you know, when you speak to the analysts? Is there anything that, you know, in the portfolio that’s not getting enough attention?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, I think it’s a good question. I mean, I think one of the, you know, I understand it, but it’s like, you know, when something’s too far away, the street doesn’t really value it much, which I get. Obviously, AMDS is here and people are valuing it. I mean, we could launch Nexus a year from now and then we have Arsivo like two years after that, right? I think it’s the combination of the every 12 to 18 months, you’ve got another PMA hidden. I think it’s underappreciated, but you typically don’t get the value.
Lance Berry, CFO, Artivion: I’ll throw another one on there. I think people that have spent time trying to understand our company a little bit, I think get this, that if you haven’t, you don’t appreciate how sustainable the growth is in our existing portfolio. Some of it doesn’t grow super fast, but it has been growing at the pace it’s been growing for a very long time. There’s really no reason for that dynamic to change. It’s because these are highly differentiated products. Again, they’re PMA-protected and in market sizes that are such that they’re unlikely to ever see additional competition. I think sometimes people don’t appreciate on the surface, like how can we have these legacy products where we’re so confident in our ability to continue to grow them, but it’s been kind of the nature of the market dynamic is what allows us to do that.
If people spend time on it, I think they get it, but I think a lot of people haven’t spent the time.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Yeah, fair enough. Can you maybe double click on that? Can you give an example of one of those products that you would say, you know, this product, even if it’s not growing as fast, will have durable growth for the foreseeable future?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, I mean, my favorite one is BioGlue. It’s a 20-year-old product. You know, there’s three other competitors in the market for surgical sealants, so we’ll each kind of have our own niche within the niche, if you will. Ours is we’re the only ones that have an indication for acute type A dissection, which obviously fits perfectly with our call point and our portfolio. That product has grown consistently for two decades. It’s super high gross margin. We don’t consign it. We sell it the minute we ship it out, wherever it goes. It’s sold in over 100 countries all over the world. There’s really no reason why it can’t continue to grow at kind of procedure rates plus a little bit of price for, I don’t know, I’m going to say, 20 years. That’s a long time, but for the foreseeable future. I mean, that’s an example.
It’s because it’s probably never going to have additional competition. There’ll probably never be another, or hopefully never be another surgical sealant with an acute type A dissection indication.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Right. No, fair enough. I guess maybe moving out a little bit, I know you mentioned Japan oncoming. How should we think about, you know, internationally? I know you are already in many geographies, but do you have a strategy sort of for further diversification internationally, or how should we think about your split?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, I mean, we’re 50-50 international and U.S. right now, which is pretty rare for a company of our size. We actually, we’re way more international than most companies. We sell On-X and BioGlue in 100 countries, right? We’ve expanded pretty significantly. If you go back and watch our evolution over the last five years, we started with like one person in Asia. Now we have 50. We’ve put a lot into Asia. We’ve also built out in Latin America. I think those are kind of slowing down. Those investments are slowing down. I don’t know, Lance, if you have any other.
Lance Berry, CFO, Artivion: Yeah, I mean, I think actually there’s a nice cadence to it. I think while we were working on getting these products, these new PMA products on the U.S. market, we had this opportunity to build out our international footprint, which we did, and that helped drive growth. You know, the margin profile for a lot of these products is really good outside the U.S. as well, but it’s not as good as it is in the U.S. I think now that was a great thing we could do while we were working on these PMAs. Now we have AMDS, kind of the first one of the dominoes to fall in the U.S. I think you’ll see a little bit more of the investment now is to how do we maximize that U.S. growth for AMDS, for On-X, hopefully fingers crossed for Nexus.
One, that’s the bigger opportunity now, as opposed to what it was, say three to five years ago. That’s also just way more profitable. These are super high gross margin products. I think you guys have to just see a little bit more of a shift. I think we continue to grow our international business really well, probably accretive to our overall company gross margins for, again, for a while.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Right. As we look forward, I know you mentioned it’s sort of half and half right now. Three to five years from now, should we expect the U.S. to be the preponderance of revenue?
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: I think you’ll start to see a shift. Again, I still expect the international business to grow. I would expect it to grow certainly double digits. I think it’s not going to be like a light switch. I think it’ll progress over time. You’ll be able to see that mix shift and you’ll be able to see it in the gross margin.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Yeah, fair enough. I think we have a few minutes left. I want to see if there is any sort of final remarks or anything that you think we’ve missed in the conversation that you’d want to highlight for potential investors.
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Yeah, I think it’s just that some of the stuff we talked about, right? An aorta-focused company that literally has an R&D pipeline of, you know, five PMAs in the works now with a couple more coming if we do the Endospan acquisition. We have a 200-person channel already. We’ve barely brought the first product to the U.S. We’re working on getting it in Japan, and the ability to grow this business double digit top line, twice as fast bottom line, cash flow positive, expanding gross margins, expanding EBITDA margins. It’s a pretty unique company.
Lance Berry, CFO, Artivion: Yeah, no, I know. It’s the same thing. The same thing we talked about. It’s a really clean story if people will take a little bit of time to go research it. We’re very financially healthy right now and have really good EBITDA margins right now. With this pipeline opportunity we have, we can continue this growth for a long time and take EBITDA margins, even though they’re great right now, we can take them meaningfully higher than where they are at the moment. Companies this size typically don’t have that level of profitability to begin with. If they do, they certainly don’t have an opportunity to take it considerably higher. I think it’s a really, it’s a really great clean story. Anybody who hasn’t been paying attention, I encourage them to check us out.
Unidentified speaker, Morgan Stanley sales representative, Morgan Stanley: Yeah, I agree. Thank you very much for being at our conference, and hopefully this was helpful.
Pat Mackin, CEO, Artivion: Great. Thank you.
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