Earnings call transcript: Multiplan’s Q3 2025 sees strong performance and strategic expansion

Published 31/10/2025, 16:08
 Earnings call transcript: Multiplan’s Q3 2025 sees strong performance and strategic expansion

Multiplan Empreendimentos Imobiliários S.A. (MULT3) reported robust results for the third quarter of 2025, showcasing strong operational performance with high occupancy rates and consistent sales growth. The company’s EBITDA margin reached an impressive 83%, driven by record-breaking sales and strategic expansions. Despite a slight dip in stock price, Multiplan’s forward-looking strategies and expansions signal a promising outlook.

Key Takeaways

  • Multiplan achieved an 83% EBITDA margin, indicating strong operational efficiency.
  • The company is expanding its shopping centers, including ParkShopping Maceió and Morumbi Shopping.
  • Multiplan’s digital platform saw a significant increase in active clients, enhancing customer engagement.

Company Performance

Multiplan’s Q3 performance was marked by high occupancy rates and consistent sales growth. The company continues to benefit from its strategic expansions and innovations, including the successful launch of its Multi-App digital platform, which added 1.5 million active clients. The company’s focus on expanding its shopping centers and enhancing customer engagement has solidified its competitive position in the retail sector.

Financial Highlights

  • Revenue: Not specified in the summary
  • EBITDA Margin: 83%
  • Active clients on Multi-App: Increased by 1.5 million
  • Relationship program sales: Grew by 40%

Outlook & Guidance

Multiplan’s forward guidance remains positive, with several expansion projects in the pipeline. The company plans to launch the Morumbi Shopping expansion in March 2026 and the ParkShopping Brasília expansion in November 2025. Additionally, the Village Mall project is set to include a significant residential and commercial area, indicating potential for further revenue growth.

Executive Commentary

CEO Eduardo Perez emphasized the company’s long-term vision, stating, "We are building the next 50 years, not just the next quarter." He also highlighted the company’s proactive management approach, saying, "We manage the enterprise. We are seeking what is lacking. We make it profitable."

Risks and Challenges

  • Market Saturation: As Multiplan expands, it must navigate potential market saturation in key areas.
  • Economic Conditions: Changes in macroeconomic conditions could impact consumer spending and retail performance.
  • Tax Reform: The upcoming consumption tax reform in 2026 may affect operational costs and pricing strategies.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts inquired about the Golden Lake project margins and future phases, as well as the company’s preparation for tax reform. Multiplan addressed these concerns, highlighting its strategic initiatives and growth strategies to mitigate potential risks.

Multiplan’s Q3 2025 earnings call underscored the company’s strong operational performance and strategic expansions. While the stock experienced a slight decline, the company’s robust outlook and innovative initiatives position it well for continued growth.

Full transcript - MULTIPLAN ON N2 (MULT3) Q3 2025:

Investor Relations, Multiplan: Relations website of Multiplan. Before moving forward, anything that is stated during this teleconference regarding the business perspectives of the company, projections and operational goals, and financial goals, are based on beliefs and premises of the Board of Directors of Multiplan, as well as information that is currently available to the company. Forward-looking statements are not a guarantee of performance, and they involve risks and uncertainties. These are related to future events and therefore depend on circumstances that may or may not occur. Investors should understand that general economic conditions, industry conditions, and other factors, operational factors, might affect the forward-looking statements and the results that are materially different from the forward-looking statements. I’d like to give the floor to Mr. Eduardo Perez, the CEO. He will present the presentation. He will start the presentation. The floor is yours.

: Bom dia a todos.

Investor Relations, Multiplan: Good morning, everyone. It’s with great satisfaction that we start the earnings call of the third quarter of 2025 of Multiplan. Once again, we had a very solid operational performance with high occupancy rates and sales in constant growth. Such results are backed by decisions that reinforce the long-term vision of this company. This is what I’d like to talk about today, not only the quarter, but also how we are building the next decade of history of this company. Over the last few years, we worked in a series of expansions. We reviewed our portfolio. We transformed our assets with new value opportunities. On the next 18th, we will launch the first expansion of ParkShopping Maceió, with 100% of its area being occupied. We will launch the expansions of Morumbi Shopping in March of next year and ParkShopping Brasília in November.

Now, we have two new expansions, one in BHG Shopping that will add the GLR, and another one with 4,000 square meters. Besides these enterprises, we had important movements with the business, with the selling of the terrains on the side of RibeirãoShopping. We’re creating in that region a multi-use complex with residential buildings, commercial, and a hospital, which generates value not only for Multiplan, but all of the community around. This is our initiative, and it shows the dynamic way that this company for 50 years we’ve innovated. We’ve grown with adversity. Now, looking towards the future, we have 150,000 square meters of ABL for expansion of our shopping malls and 860,000 for multi-use projects. The most surprising, 1.5 million square meters of potential in all of our terrains.

All of our malls of our portfolio have a great potential for growth, specifically with the new rules for occupancy of urban areas and the launch of new directive plans for the cities. I’d like to highlight the promising area of BarraShopping Sul that has two mapped expansions besides a medical center and also three towers that are under study. We’ve observed also another important movement, the return of new international brands to the shopping mall. With the advances of the new phases of Golden Lake, we are projecting the third phase, Lake Baikal. It will have two buildings, seven more than what was initially projected. Out of the 1,100 units predicted, the Golden Lake neighborhood is going to have 1,400 units, a considerable increase of efficiency of the project. With this, the additional flow in the primary area of BarraShopping Soul is 8,000 people.

I also have to highlight the essential role of digital innovation. The Multi-App is adding another 1.5 million active clients, and it’s consolidating as a digital full platform. Our relationship program has grown 40% in registered sales in regards to 2024, and the Platinum category doubled its base of customers since it was launched. All throughout the trajectory of Multiplan, several shareholders have bet in our company, and we’ve always been here. We do what we do best: quality engineering and a mix that dictates the movement of retail. We have to generate long-term value for our shareholders. Also, I’d like to bring your attention to the investment in technology of the company and the condominium. Certainly, we will have a reduction of operational costs for everyone. Following the international trend, the use of artificial intelligence, besides being welcome, is irreversible.

We are confident that we are going to close 2025 with a portfolio that is ever more modern, a base of clients that is engaged, and a clear vision of the future. That drive of growth, it will not stop. Thank you to all the collaborators, investors, analysts, journalists that follow us. I wish you a happy New Year for everyone. Thank you.

: Thank you.

Investor Relations, Multiplan: We close. Now we open the session for Q&A. Please, if you have any questions, write down the questions on the Q&A, and the questions will be answered as we receive them. The first question is from Fenny Oreng, analyst of Santander. I will enable your microphone. The floor is yours. Hi everyone. Good morning. Good morning, Eduardo. Good morning, everyone, all the IR team. I have three questions, but I think that they’re very brief. First of all, thank you for the opening of all the details of potential new projects. I wanted to hear more about this issue. First, is there any trigger? Is there anything that could generate for you to launch these expansions of shopping malls? What are you waiting for? High occupancy, as it happened with BHG Shopping? A more macro, clearer scenario? What is the guidance?

How can we incorporate this in our projections of Multiplan? That’s the first question in regards to the expansion of the shopping mall. Secondly, in regards to the Golden Lake, also the first two phases are well sold, 66%, the other one was 75%. I want to understand if you have any idea of when you should launch the third phase of Lake Baikal. The third question is in regards to the profitability of the Golden Lake project. We know that in the third quarter, the margin is compressed. I wanted to hear a bit more about what happened and what do you expect of profitability in the next phases of this project. Thank you. The last one, Golden Lake. Explaining a bit on the margin, we have to foresee that this is a project for development for the next 10, 15 years, 1,400 units.

There’s increase in numbers that we could get with a new legislation. You’re going to have an improvement of efficiency of the project that is still not calculated in the bottom line to give you the real numbers, but we’re going to discuss this in the future. Now, going back to the issue that we had with Lake Troy, I’d like to clarify one thing. It’s the first phase of the enterprise. As any enterprise of this size, the first phase is always the one that sets the tone. It’s what you show what you want to do. We had issues with the floods. A lot of the builders had a lot of difficulty. A big one went bankrupt, and it generated a loss of efficiency and delays that were very big. We were looking for 30% of margin, dropped to 20%, but it’s still in the 20%.

For the future, I believe that this margin will increase. The other condominiums will not be as luxurious as these one, will not have the amount of details, and it will make the construction easier. The standard is established. The important thing, Fenny, is that winning or losing margins, you are delivering what the buyer of Golden Lake bought. The credibility of the company is here on the table. The city went through a very difficult moment. Porto Alegre decreased in the number of people. Many people moved out, moved out to another state. We still bet, and we are very confident in the city. As I told you in the initial speech, a lot of the brands that were already at BarraShopping Soul International, they’re coming back because of Golden Lake. We are here talking about the development of the region. You have a hotel there now.

You’re creating a whole new neighborhood, not just a condominium. Second question that you asked, Lake Baikal, third phase. Lake Baikal, I imagine that May of next year, maybe 120 days to detail the projects. I wanted to get it so you can see our direction. In May of next year, we should be launching. The first one was in regards to the potential. We wanted to show you, and this is an internal discussion. No, everything that we do, everything that we have of potential in the company, we need to share with the investors. It’s difficult to say, Fenny, in which moment we’re going to launch this in the future. It’s good to know that you have space, that you can double the shopping mall that was born with two floors, now has four floors. Maybe in the future it’s going to have six.

The important thing is to grow. You see, BarraShopping, we have an expansion to launch until October 2026 of 4,000 square meters of GLA. This is an enterprise with BarraShopping that has 700 stores, but there is demand. There is the search for international brands to get new brands in these shopping malls that are going to grow. We don’t want to get too much area in the market. This area, the space of growth that we’ve done, all the expansion, it’s 170,000 ABL. It’s big. Little by little, as you said, depending on the conditions of the market, the economy, we can develop this better. Did I answer the question? Yes. Thank you. Next question is from Igor Otero. He is from XP. The floor is yours. Hi, good morning. I wanted to see the recycling issue.

How do you see the demand by the real estate funds in the discussions? Do you see that increasing? Because even in that scenario of more challenging interest rates, we can see that there is quality, there is the search for that. How do you see these discussions for your demand for your assets if you can talk about the expectation for the end of the year? How do you see the impressions for the retail in the fourth quarter? Demand for our assets is always big. We can see the deal that was announced. They sold a part of BarraShopping. We had several funds interested, but because of the quality and the return of the prices, we bought it and kept it in-house. We are constantly approached by the market to see if there is an interest in the market.

It’s very frequent because of the quality of our assets. Our perspective for the end of the year is good. We can see that the selling started the year in the two digits, 7%, 8% in growth in sales, occupancy. We have good business, shopping malls. What we’re going to have at the end of the year is good, and at the beginning of the year, very promising. The expansion is opening, yes. Expansion in Maceió, you have all of that. You have the expansion of Morumbi in March of next year. That changes, Morumbi Shopping, we renewed Morumbi Shopping. You have Morumbi 2025. You’re going to have in Brasília a shopping mall that is renewed with the expansion that is done. It’s on the way, the works, until the end of next year. Did I answer the question? Perfect. Thank you. Next question is from Taina Costa from UBS.

I’m going to open the audio for the floor. We had a technical issue. If you can wait a little bit. Next question is Andrea Mazinis, Analyst of Citi. I’m going to open your microphone. The floor is yours. Hi, good morning. Eduardo, Armano, everyone. Two questions. First, about the terrains. I wanted to ask if you foresee a trade-off in having a land bank that is big, obviously. You generate cash flow, but on the other hand, there is the growth. How do you do that balance for the cash flow, but it could commit the growth? When you think about the tiers of the projects, you see from the launch up ahead that would mark the market. The second is the succession of rights.

It was more negative this quarter if it’s related to the deliverables of new areas in the shopping mall, or is there anything related to this, or was it the tenants? Can you give us more details on the succession of rights side? You commented on the terrains. Something that I wanted to leave very clear. We are in a phase that is very important for unlocking the value. We’re not going to build to carry the terrains. You’re not going to have an enterprise. We did that movement in Ribeirão Preto, we’re going to do this in Campo Grande. We are developing a project that is very big on the side of the village, as Golden Lake is going to be an important neighborhood, a terrain that changed its capacity of building as well. All of that will generate more value for the company.

We can look at this in the beginning? No. Initially in the project, we calculate with the project, and everything that is added up is going to be, there’s going to be an addition. The good news is that if you look at our portfolio, all the terrains of all the projects have the potential of real estate development. What do I want to say about that? Right now, I have approved two, three buildings. Jacarepaguá has the potential within the terrain of Jacarepaguá of doing two buildings and so on. The company is working with all this value, unlocking this value that is a benefit for the shopping mall. Can you measure that? No, because the rules are changing over the years. The terrains in Barra da Tijuca, you could only build two and a half floors now. With a potential you can get to 12. Everything changes.

About the succession of rights, it’s part, Andrea, of you qualifying the mix and bringing new operations with the several operations. This happens, and many times this math is decreased, it’s improved as a transference rate. That is a part of the business, that is part of the operation, specifically when you want to have a qualified mix. You don’t want to have a shopping mall full of stores and you want to have the best operations. Andrea, this reminded me of an example that I already discussed. Vila Olímpia. Since we were listed, it was the biggest capture of the succession of rights since we launched the project. Not necessarily was a commercial success that you had there, a choice more for the short-term financial than a sustainable mix for the long term, which is what we are looking for every day.

Sometimes you see a negative number, but be careful. It doesn’t mean that the positive will bring you sustainable growth. Thank you, everyone. Nossa próxima pergunta é do analista. This is from the analyst, Marison, please here. Please continue. Bom dia, Eduardo, bom dia, Armando. Hi. My question is about the question of development, of real estate. You have the multi-use project of Village Mall, but I wanted to understand if the idea at the beginning would be Multiplan to do this with the new Golden Lake and would it be by subcontracted parties? The expectation of CapEx for the next year, you announced several concessions of Biaga and BarraShopping. You are finishing the expansions. I wanted to see if you have space to announce something for next year or the idea is to have something less overloaded on CapEx. Mario. Good question.

The project, a village, if we’re going to build or not, I don’t know. Probably we’re not going to build, there’s going to be a builder. The builders that are available to build in the southern region, it was much less. We were obliged to do our own construction to guarantee a margin that was larger of return. With the project here on the side, we’re going to have more people interested in building at prices that make this enterprise viable. I believe that the chance of the values charged per square meter are going to be much higher than the ones that are charged by Golden Lake, so we need to take that into consideration. I think it’s important for the region as a whole. It’s a project of approximately 70,000 of residential and another 10,000 of offices, commercial.

You’re talking about 500 apartments, and we’re going to generate another 2,000, 3,000 people constantly going to this complex that we have this control, which is Bar Mall. This is a commercial district that is the most important of Rio de Janeiro. This is the important thing. This is what we need to understand. The idea is that we’re going to approve next year, and in 2027, we’re going to launch this project. The other question about CapEx next year. Mario. Looking up ahead, the projects that are approved, CapEx should be decreased, same thing this year, should be decreased in regards to the previous year. There is an opportunity of buying a participation of BarraShopping with conditions that we thought that were very good. These are things that you cannot predict. If you look at what we have predicted in terms of expansions, it’s less.

It should be decreasing in regards to 2025, specifically Armando, because the revamping is almost over. There is works in BarraShopping, Pacho Savassi, but the revamp that we went through. It closed this year. You see this this year. You see a CapEx. That is, CapEx is much smaller, but it has a big return for the shopping mall. It’s here. Estou claro. Obrigado. It’s clear. Thank you very much. Nossa próxima pergunta. Our next question is from Taina Costa, Analyst of UBS. The floor is yours. Bom dia, pessoal. Vocês me ouvem? Good morning, everyone. Can you hear me? Sim, sim, sim. Pode prosseguir. Yes. Boa, perfeito. Bom, eu queria falar pouquinho. I wanted to discuss the issue of tax reform of consumption. We are in the imminence of this transient process that starts in 2026.

I want to know how are the preparations, how is the adaptation of contracts, how is the conversation with tenants now that we have a more consolidated vision of one year since the announcements? How do you foresee the impacts for the company? Do you have a more clear vision that this is a reform that is positive, more neutral, more negative? Obrigado. And looking up ahead to the future. Thank you. I think that there are many questions that have to be answered. We can see the end of the tax reform. Our position is positive for the economy. It will lock a lot of value for the economy. It’s good for the business, specifically in regards to the company. As you know, we have a great deal of the enterprises in real. We work with the aliquots of.

We have different aliquots for a parking lot, which is the Lucro Real. Anyway, we’re working intensely to adapt. We have a pilot plan. We are going to have to adapt, and we changed the system, and there is a lot of impacts in the company of all the areas in all the companies. It’s not specific just of our sector. The company is adapting because it’s necessary. I think it’s very early. We’re going to have to wait for the time to go by because not everything is defined. Perfeito, pessoal. Obrigado. Thank you. Nossa próxima pergunta. Our next question is from Jerel Bilotti from Goldman Sachs. Jerel, the floor is yours. Bom dia a todos. Good morning, everyone. Duas perguntas aqui. Two questions.

First, the NOI margin, it got, as you’ve asked, with the release on your record in the third quarter, you mentioned that there were some factors that contributed for such. The net delinquency is negative, the economy is high. I wanted to understand from you, when you see that NOI margin that is very high, how long will it last, in your opinion? Because a few things, they’re not sustainable. The delinquency being negative. Is it going to last another quarter, two, three quarters? That’s the first question. Second is about the pipeline of this potential movement that you provided with this release. I wanted to understand if you have any priority for the project. Connected to this, I wanted to understand how do you think about the leverage up ahead. Could you open the table?

I wanted to understand if you believe that you can think that the leverage can be higher up ahead, or should we keep with the levels thus far? Is the funding that you’re going to use going to be per debt, per cash flow, per equity? That would be it. Thank you. Jerel, hi. Thank you for the questions. Several questions in one, so several answers. Let’s start by leverage. We didn’t think that we were going to get to this leverage until we had the opportunity of buying 18% of the company. We didn’t even know that that would be possible, and it was. Is it the ideal leverage that we have for the interest rate? No. Can we imagine that that will increase? No. It’s not the idea of the company.

The movement of last year of CapEx was very high, but we’re investing R$3.5 billion to buy the 18%, 15% of the company. All of the development that we have here has many more things to do. We can seek other sources of finance because a company of this size is not stopping. We’re always doing new things. We’re always proposing improvements for the shopping mall. This is where we see value. Clearly, this is where the company is differentiated from the rest. Here, we always discuss this at the call, that you look at a shopping mall company. It seems like a trap. People are going to purchase, they get in, they spend. No, we don’t do that. We manage the enterprise. We are seeking what is lacking. We make it profitable. We bring events. This is in the DNA of the company. The company was born.

If you look at the past, 40, 50 years ago, my dad purchased the terrains and did the company. I remembered, they’re saying, you’re a visionary. You saw where the companies were going to grow. He didn’t have the money to buy the good terrains. Now the cities embrace the shopping mall. The opportunities are very big. I wanted to make clear for everyone that these opportunities are even higher as time goes by because the big cities are changing, São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro. This movement will continue to happen, whether it’s at BarraShopping, Morumbi, Biaga, or Barigui. We can double the size of Barigui. We can do the expansions. There is no market or space to do it, but you needed to know that we have the potential. NOI margin and potential projects.

The project we already discussed, NOI margin, the desire was that it would follow with the levels. We work for this to be continuous. I cannot guarantee this recovery, negative recovery that we had here. The work is always in this direction. You always try to get everything that is ours in every possibility. It’s not always possible to capture 100%. Jerel, another point, the recurring question. Every call, the same questions are done. The markets are surprising with new records, new efficiencies of the companies that we bring, not only in the NOI margin, but also the EBITDA. If we exclude the real estate activity, it is very high. It grew and it has. It distorts the EBITDA margin, but then it’s growing because of the efficiency of the company. The EBITDA margin is 83% in this quarter.

Eduardo said that for as long as this is 84%, it works to keep or to grow. This is work that has generated the results that has generated the higher margins, not only delinquency, but with lower costs, also with higher occupancy, a series of indicators that are helping. Another question that you asked, Eduardo, which is the project said within the list of projects. We have Jerel, the question, the project with a village mall. In residential, it should be the next priority. Yes. We are going to, with a priority, we can see what we have as project. We are not going to be able to develop everything. There is no capital for this. There is no arm for this. What we’re not going to develop, we’re going to unlock the value, selling. The question of the funding, if there is equity, there is no planning.

The planning with the cash flow generation, the company is going to opt to deleverage quicker or grow with the projects. Obviously, we have something interesting, such as issuing with a debt of $500 million, 10 years, 98% CDI in this third quarter. Okay? Thank you. Nossa próxima pergunta. Next question is from the analyst Rafael Header, from Safra. Please. Bom dia, pessoal. Obrigado aqui pelo espaço. Good morning. Thank you for the opportunity. I only have one question. I wanted to go back to the M&A point. I wanted to see with you if you have other assets within the portfolio. As we have this acquisition with this stake, that given this challenging scenario of the interest rates, can you acquire participation with a valuation that is more attractive? Seeing if there is a negotiation. With this level of leveraging, would it be more difficult?

Would you expect the company to be more leveraged? Thank you. It’s very difficult to plan an M&A. I’m going to get some capital to do the purchasing and participation. It can appear, but it might not appear with the capital allocation price. What we do is the capital allocation. If you ask six months ago if we’re going to be interested with the purchasing of BarraShopping, maybe the answer would be no. It seems interesting as a capital allocation. The asset, as Eduardo Perez commented, the selling of the participation, we didn’t have anything left for the market. This is where we’re going to look with pragmatism in the value generation with the best capital allocation, always looking at the long term. We’re building the next 10 years, not just the next quarter. We’re looking at the value generation. I’m going to fix this. It’s not only 10.

We’re looking at the next 50. Six months in, Brazil is a long term. 10 is already a lot. Thank you for the question. Next question. Nicole Sitan from Safari Capital in its written. Good morning. Congratulations on the result. Can you give us more color on what is behind the sequential deceleration of the ISS and how it has been with the performance in October? Nicole, thank you for the question. Very interesting. Selling with the same stores. It’s very difficult for you to want to understand ISS in a simple way because it’s a store per store that composes this index. To try and simplify, we can see it in two ways. First, you have a basis for comparison that is very high, which was the performance of the shopping malls in Rio Grande do Sul last year.

Post-flood, we had a growth of sales that was very high. In certain sectors, for example, electronics, people buying products that were lost during the floods. When you compare this last year and this year, it plays negatively against the portfolio. That’s the first point. Then you have a few operations that, by a lot of specificities, each operation is doing well, as others perform very well. When I look at the indicator, I look at it always conjugated with the other indicators. I don’t look at the selling with the same stores without looking at the occupancy rate. If you can look, we look at all the indicators together. It makes sense to have this ungluing from one side to another. Your question, we don’t have in October, obviously yet, the data because the month is not closed, but the reading until the 26th, they were selling.

Sales that were growing at a rhythm of 8%. We are showing a higher acceleration. Another point that always comes to mind is to look at the records, is to look at the company being listed since 2007. The sales have been growing every quarter, of course, at the exception of the pandemic, they’re closed. The watermark, as the market likes to call it, is very high and it’s going over. Every quarter, even though it seems that it grew less, they’re growing more. It’s a new record because it’s not less than the previous quarter. It’s only larger. When you see that in the accrued, with the assets, we almost doubled the sales. In 10 years, the portfolio grew almost double the sales of the portfolio as a whole.

It shows the capacity of continuing to grow, not only in the quarter, not only in the short term, but on the long term. This is what we realize all the time. Next question. Jonathan Coburst from JP Morgan. Para que você possa realizar sua pergunta. You can open, we’re going to open your microphone. The floor is yours. Bom dia, Eduardo, Armando. Hi. Perguntas do meu lado. A primeira ainda. The first question is still about the village mall. You have approved and you launched in 2007, but do you have a size that we can foresee that can help us with the modeling here? I imagine that the idea is to expand in phases because of the size of the project. The second question, the leasing spread. In three points in real terms, in occupancy, it’s relatively stable and healthy.

I wanted to confirm if there is a space to access in real terms, going with the mid-single digits in the next quarters and the strong sales. Thank you. Jonathan, look, in regards to the project with the village, the good news is that we are giving the final touches to get in with the projects with the mayor’s office and having the approval for next year. It is a diamond that we’re lapidating, and it’s time for it to become a jewel. It’s very difficult to precise. How much it would be VGV, how much we’re going to have of the rental and the tower. The important thing is that that will generate value. Second question is about. It wasn’t clear if you can clarify it. I didn’t understand the question. No, sure. Do you see space with the three percentage points in real terms of growth? Yes.

We’ve presented the same real growth every quarter. We still see the opportunity of continuing to grow, not only by the contracts that allow us, but by the new occupancy, by the new tenants. You have a GBDI that is a bit lower. This is going to continue to grow really as the records have shown. Enriching the answer of Armando, if you stop to think, all of this is just possible. You can only grow if we sell more. For as good as a contract is, the more committed the tenant is, we’re not going to continue at that point, is not corresponding to what they are expecting. We have delivered a selling that is much higher. The company growing in general terms of sales, same rent of income, all of this is a consequence of the investments that we’re doing in revamping and the expansion of the enterprises.

The idea is to continue to improve the assets. Thank you. Next question is from Philippe Alvart. It’s written, and he’s answering. Good morning. Beforehand, congratulations on the result. I have a question on the profile of cash generation of Golden Lake. Given the cash generation of the business of incorporation and consumption of and transference for the banks, when the flow is positive for the company, so there’s positive effect, when’s the result of the company in the third quarter, or it should go over the next quarters? Thank you for your question. This effect will go through the next quarters as the units are being delivered. We’re looking for financing and with a cash flow still not a big deal of the apartments that are going to be delivered in this phase. Thank you for the question. Thank you for all the questions and interest.

We’re going to close the Q&A session, and we invite that the participants have questions, they can get into contact with the investor relations department. I will give the floor to Mr. Eduardo Perez to close the session. The floor is yours. I would like to thank you for all of you that are hearing us, investors, shareholders, specifically our collaborators that deliver the work and the day-to-day of the company that has a continuous focus. In continuing to improve the assets every day. This is tiring work, but this is very profitable and very pleasant. Thank you very much. Have a nice Christmas break and see you next time. Thank you. The earnings call of the results of the third quarter of 2025 of Multiplan Empreendimentos Imobiliários S.A. is closed. Have a nice.

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