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Six Flags Entertainment Corporation reported its second-quarter 2025 earnings, revealing a notable miss on both earnings per share (EPS) and revenue forecasts. The company posted an EPS of $0.99, falling short of the expected $1.03, and reported revenue of $930 million, which did not meet the forecast of $1.03 billion. Following the announcement, Six Flags’ stock dropped by over 19% in pre-market trading, reflecting investor disappointment. According to InvestingPro data, this decline adds to an already challenging year, with the stock down over 36% year-to-date. Five analysts have recently revised their earnings expectations downward for the upcoming period.
Key Takeaways
- Six Flags reported an EPS of $0.99, missing the forecast of $1.03.
- Revenue came in at $930 million, below the $1.03 billion forecast.
- Stock price fell over 19% in pre-market trading.
- Attendance dropped 12% in the last six weeks of Q2.
- Q2 adjusted EBITDA guidance reduced significantly.
Company Performance
Six Flags faced a challenging quarter, with attendance dropping by 12% in the last six weeks. This decline contributed to the company’s inability to meet revenue expectations. The company has been grappling with macroeconomic factors, including extreme weather conditions, which affected early-season performance. Despite these challenges, Six Flags has been focusing on innovation and operational restructuring to improve long-term performance.
Financial Highlights
- Revenue: $930 million, down from the forecast of $1.03 billion.
- Earnings per share: $0.99, below the expected $1.03.
- Adjusted EBITDA guidance for Q2 reduced to $860-$910 million from $1.08-$1.12 billion.
Earnings vs. Forecast
The company reported an EPS of $0.99, which was 3.88% below the forecast of $1.03. Revenue also fell short, coming in at $930 million against a forecast of $1.03 billion. These misses highlight the challenges Six Flags faces in maintaining its financial performance amid declining attendance and unfavorable macroeconomic conditions.
Market Reaction
Following the earnings announcement, Six Flags’ stock plummeted by 19.15%, with pre-market trading showing a further decline of 12.05%. This sharp drop reflects investor concerns over the company’s ability to meet financial targets and manage its debt, which currently stands at a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of 6.2x, above the target of sub-4x. InvestingPro analysis indicates the stock is currently undervalued, with analyst targets ranging from $30 to $60 per share. The company’s financial health score stands at "FAIR," though its current ratio of 0.37 suggests potential liquidity challenges. Get access to the full Six Flags Pro Research Report and 12+ additional ProTips by subscribing to InvestingPro.
Outlook & Guidance
Looking ahead, Six Flags expects flat attendance in the second half of 2025, with in-park spending anticipated to decrease by 3%. The company aims to reduce costs by $90 million in the second half of the year. Capital expenditures for 2025 are projected to be between $475 million and $500 million, with a reduction to $400 million planned for 2026. Despite current challenges, InvestingPro data shows analysts expect revenue growth of 23% for FY2025, with the company projected to return to profitability this year.
Executive Commentary
CEO Richard Zimmerman expressed confidence in the company’s strategy, stating, "Our company is strong, our strategy is sound, and the opportunities are real." CFO Brian Witherow added, "We are building a better business with a more stable cost structure."
Risks and Challenges
- Declining attendance due to macroeconomic factors and extreme weather.
- High net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio, posing financial risk.
- Consumer behavior shifting towards value-conscious spending.
- Operational challenges from recent organizational restructuring.
- Potential impact of CEO succession process on strategic direction.
Q&A
During the earnings call, analysts focused on the impact of weather on attendance and the company’s season pass sales strategy. Questions were also raised about potential asset divestitures to reduce leverage and the effectiveness of pricing and promotional strategies in driving attendance.
Full transcript - Six Flags Entertainment Corp (FUN) Q2 2025:
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Six Flags twenty twenty five Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question and answer Thank you. I’d now like to turn the call over to Six Flags management. Go ahead, please.
Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations, Six Flags: Thank you, Rob, and good morning, everyone. My name is Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations for Six Flags. Welcome to today’s earnings call to review Six Flags Entertainment Corporation’s twenty twenty five second quarter financial results. Earlier this morning, we issued two press releases, including our earnings release for the second quarter and another release announcing a leadership change. Copies of these press releases are available under the News tab of our Investor Relations website at investors.sixflags.com.
Before we begin, I need to remind you that comments made during this call will include forward looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These statements may involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from those described in such statements. For a more detailed discussion of these risks, you may refer to the company’s filings with the SEC. In compliance with the SEC’s Regulation FD, this webcast is being made available to the media and general public as well as analysts and investors. Because the webcast is open to all constituents and prior notification has been widely and unselectively disseminated, all content on this call will be considered fully disclosed.
On the call with me this morning are Six Flags’ Chief Executive Officer, Richard Zimmerman and Chief Financial Officer, Brian Witherow. With that, I’ll turn
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: the call over to Richard. Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us today. Before we discuss our financial results, I want to address the leadership announcement we made this morning. I will be stepping down as President and CEO by the 2025.
I plan to remain in the role until my successor is appointed, and I will work closely with the board to identify the next leader to guide Six Flags forward. I will continue to serve as a director of the company, so I will remain actively involved in overseeing the continued execution of our strategic plan. This will be a smooth, orderly succession process. To put this in some context, I’ve been in the entertainment industry for thirty eight years, and I’ve seen it evolve and change. For most of that time, it has been a goal of mine to help create a leading North American operator that can cater to all ages and entertainment styles.
With the successful combination of Cedar Fair and legacy Six Flags completed last summer, we’ve now done that, and I couldn’t be prouder of what we’ve accomplished so far. With that said, we’ve only just scratched the surface of the enormous potential of our combined company. As you’ll hear us discuss in more detail this morning, we experienced some macro and weather related headwinds in the second quarter. Even so, July was strong, and the leading indicators heading into August look good thus far. We are also making great progress on integration and synergy realization.
So despite the rainy weekends we saw back in May and June, I’ve never been more confident in our strategy to optimize our assets or more optimistic in the long term value, potential and opportunities for Six Flags. With that in mind, the board and I have decided that now is the right time to begin the process of finding our company’s next leader, someone who will build on the progress we’ve made so far and propel Six Flags to its full potential. Like I’ve said, I’ve been doing this for a long time, and in many ways, my career has already been more satisfying than I could have ever hoped. Being able to offer family experiences that are unique, engaging, memorable has been incredibly rewarding. And along the way, we have created a powerful new industry leader with incredibly bright prospects for long term value creation for our guests, our associates, and our shareholders.
I wanna thank my entire Six Flags team for all the hard work and dedication that’s gotten us to this point. We have plenty of seasons still ahead of us, including some of our most popular events and some of our biggest attendance days, and we’re gonna make sure they go off without a hitch. I remain more committed than ever to Six Flags’ success, And over the coming months, I will ensure we are executing our strategy and working diligently to achieve our objectives of increasing adjusted EBITDA, reducing net leverage and delivering on our integration efforts. Before I review the second quarter and the challenges we faced, I want to start with where we are right now because the story has changed. July has been a turning point.
As weather has normalized and guests have a chance to experience our new rides and other attractions, we are seeing a surge in demand for our parks, while sales of season passes and memberships are climbing fast. While we know we have ground to make up from a tough May and June, these results send a clear message. When the gates are open and the product is strong, people will visit. Now on to our early season performance. While results over the first half of the year fell well below our expectation, it does not alter our goal of delivering a strong second half nor our conviction in the long term potential of Six Flags.
Our financial results through the first six months of the year reflect a significant decline in attendance, driven by lower renewal rates and season sales of season passes as well as disrupted demand for single day visits, all largely influenced by macro factors, including extreme weather conditions coupled with economic uncertainty and not reflective of a loss of consumer interest. As a result of these temporary macro headwinds, we believe many guests delayed park visits during the early weeks of our operating season, making fewer impulse buys, delay delaying purchases of season passes and memberships and displaying a more value conscious mindset. In our business, the impact of short term macro level disruptions such as weather are amplified earlier in the year when visitation urgency is lower and there are plenty of opportunities to still visit later in the season. The second half of the year has historically been the defining period for our business. As the saying goes, we make hay when the sun shines.
In 2017 and ’eighteen and as recently as 2023, macro factors weighed on the first half performance at Legacy Cedar Fair, yet a return to normalized conditions, solid capital programs, and a heightened urgency to visit combined to strive strong rebounds in the second half of those seasons. Years like these underscore the resiliency of our model, the strength of our brands, and the importance of our ability to execute during the peak summer and fall seasons when we generate the majority of our annual attendance, revenues and adjusted EBITDA. We see a similar opportunity in the 2025. Our job is to manage through short term disruptions and focus on the things we can control, and that is exactly what we’ve done and will continue to do. To stimulate early season demand and drive season pass sales, we introduced several attractive limited duration promotional offers during the second quarter.
At the same time, we pulled forward advertising dollars from the second half of the year to increase consumer awareness and combat some of the macro headwinds we saw developing. While these initiatives did not offset the combination of inclement weather and softer consumer demand in the first half, we expect they will benefit the business in the second half and the longer term. We’ve also added operating hours and staffing where most appropriate, making sure all of our rides, attractions, and revenue centers are fully operational and available to the guests to enjoy when they visit. At certain parks, this lifted seasonal labor and maintenance costs, which we’ve moved to offset with cost reduction elsewhere while maintaining the integrity of the guest experience. We will continue to look for second half expense offsets to balance out our full year spending in these areas, and we remain confident we can deliver on our full year cost reduction goals.
We have also taken decisive actions to address the shortfall in this year’s Active Pass Base. The launch of our 2026 season pass program includes a reimagined pass structure that features an offer for an expanded All Park Pass benefit for our top tier Pass buyers. This is intended to leverage the appeal of the All Park Pass benefit and tap into the strong pent up demand from customers who have delayed their purchases in the spring. As we get deeper into the new season pass cycle, we will offer additional enhancements as well as we roll into 02/1926, including regional pass options, the introductions of memberships at the Legacy Cedar Fair parks, and a comprehensive loyalty program that extends across the entire portfolio. These programmatic changes are designed to strengthen annual pass renewal rates, attract new customers and create a more robust and consistent recurring revenue stream.
While we work to improve top line performance, cost discipline remains a top priority. A significant restructuring of our organization completed in the second quarter flattened our layers of leadership, consolidated duplicative functions and improved the overall agility of our teams. These strategic measures will permanently reduce our full time labor costs by more than $20,000,000 on an annualized basis and enable us to operate more effectively as a unified company. Significant progress has also been made by our team to harmonize our technology stacks, including our ticketing platforms, ERP suite and our safety and maintenance systems. This and other IT refinements allow us to simplify administrative functions, further refine the organizational structure, and will advance incremental cost savings into the future.
Combined with additional cost savings we are uncovering through our centralized procurement and purchasing functions, these collective efforts support our goal of reducing twenty twenty five full year operating costs and expenses before adjusted EBITDA add backs by 3% compared to last year’s combined cost base. With that, I’ll turn the call over to Brian for a more detailed review of our financial results. After his remarks, I’ll return to address guidance and offer some closing thoughts. Brian?
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Thanks, Richard. I’ll begin with the balance sheet and a recap of use of cash this quarter. In late June, we closed a $500,000,000 fungible add on to our term loan. We used the net proceeds to pay off $200,000,000 of twenty twenty five notes, while using the balance to repay a portion of our outstanding revolver borrowings. Following this transaction, we have no debt maturing until 2027 when the buyout of the non controlling interest of our Georgia Park is due in January and $1,000,000,000 of bonds come due in April.
We intend to address these maturities in the coming months before they go current next year. Despite the headwinds to start the year, our underlying business remains solid. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter fell well below plan and nevertheless we have ample liquidity with no near term covenant or cash concerns. We ended the quarter with approximately $107,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents and total liquidity of $540,000,000 including cash on hand and available capacity under our revolving credit facility. During the three month period, capital expenditures totaled $168,000,000 consistent with our previously disclosed expectation to spend $475,000,000 to $500,000,000 for the full year in 2025.
During the quarter, we used $122,000,000 on cash interest payments and $10,000,000 in cash taxes. Based on outstanding debt including forecasted borrowings on our revolver, we expect full year cash interest payments will total approximately $320,000,000 We now expect 2025 full year cash taxes will total approximately $40,000,000 reflecting the impact of further tax planning efforts by our team as well as the benefit of bonus depreciation deductions provided under new tax regulations. We are working to identify more cost efficiencies within our future capital programs and are now projecting a total CapEx spend of approximately $400,000,000 for 2026. Cash interest payments next year are projected to total between $320,000,000 and $330,000,000 and cash tax payments in 2026 are projected to be in the 45,000,000 to $50,000,000 range. Touching on leverage, accounting for our recent refinancing transaction and revolver borrowings, gross debt outstanding at the end of the second quarter was approximately $5,300,000,000 and net debt to annualized second quarter adjusted EBITDA was approximately 6.2 times, which is above our target range of sub four times.
Our priority remains reducing leverage back inside of four times as quickly as possible, which we remain confident can be accomplished through the combination of organic growth in the business and the selected divestiture of non core assets. As we shared last quarter, we are actively pursuing two opportunities including the monetization of excess land near Kings Dominion in Richmond, Virginia and the sale of land at Six Flags America in Bowie, Maryland, a park we are sunsetting after the 2025 season. We are aggressively working on the steps necessary to close each transaction as quickly as possible and we will provide further updates as things develop. We are also actively evaluating other opportunities where similar value creation is possible. Now turning to second quarter results.
Given we operate in the outdoor entertainment space, we prefer not to use weather as an excuse for soft performance, but rather acknowledge that it’s an uncontrollable we need to navigate through. It’s clear, however, that extreme weather across much of our North American portfolio had a meaningful impact on early season operations, particularly over the last six weeks of the second quarter. Over that six week period combined attendance was down 12% from the same timeframe last year as severe storms, excessive rain and extreme heat disrupted visitation and sales of season passes during the most critical portion of the sales cycle. By comparison, combined attendance over the first seven weeks of the quarter when weather was not an issue was flat compared to the prior year. Overall, close to 20% of our operating days in the second quarter were impacted by weather, including forty nine days in which parks were forced to close entirely.
By comparison, we were only forced to close parks on twelve days due to inclement weather during the 2024. Despite the headwinds around attendance, when weather wasn’t an issue, demand was solid. And when guests visited they continue to show a desire and willingness to spend on quality items and unique experiences. This was particularly the case at some of our largest and more well established properties. At the Legacy Cedar Fair parks admissions per capita spending was up 4% during the quarter reflecting a two to 3% increase in season pass pricing and a 3% to 4% increase in single day ticket pricing.
The cost value proposition at those parks is very high giving us clear line of sight to responsibly take pricing with demand. Meanwhile, per capita spending on in park products at the Legacy Cedar Fair parks was up 3% in the quarter, driven by higher guest spending on food and beverage, extra charge products and merchandise. Each of these positive trends underscores our belief that our consumer remains engaged and interested in the entertainment our parks offer. On the cost front, we continue to focus on realizing synergies across the portfolio, while understanding that it’s critical to reinvest in our underperforming parks to improve guest satisfaction scores and increase penetration rates over the long term. At the Legacy Cedar Fair parks, we realized a 1% reduction in operating expenses on an adjusted EBITDA basis.
The decrease was primarily driven by lower maintenance costs and a reduction in seasonal labor hours during the quarter. Much of these cost savings were reinvested at the legacy Six Flags parks as we worked to enhance the guest experience and improve the value proposition of those parks. During the quarter, we incurred $11,000,000 of non recurring merger related integration costs and another $28,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA add backs comprised primarily of $24,000,000 of severance payments related to our recent org restructuring initiative and $4,000,000 of public liability settlements. Outside of these costs, cash operating expenses in the period were driven higher by two primary factors. First, approximately $19,000,000 in advertising originally budgeted for the second half of the year.
As Richard noted, this was a real time strategic decision made to combat attendance pressures we were seeing and to stimulate demand for season passes and single day tickets heading into the peak summer season. And second, a pull forward into the second quarter of approximately $6,000,000 of pre opening maintenance investments at several of our underpenetrated parks, a strategic initiative to ensure rides were licensed and ready to operate on opening day. These decisions resulted in an estimated expense timing difference in the quarter of approximately $25,000,000 which we would expect to fully reverse over the balance of the year. While we pull forward spending on maintenance and marketing and reinvested cost savings, we still expect to reduce our full year operating costs and expenses excluding adjusted EBITDA add backs by 3%. Our cost saving efforts are always aligned with our business which is back half weighted, meaning the opportunities for reducing costs are the greatest and least disruptive to the business during the third and fourth quarters.
Before I turn things back over to Richard, let me provide some more color around our recent performance trends and our updated outlook for the full year. Over the past four weeks, attendance is up more than 300,000 visits or 4% over the same four week period last year and demand trends are accelerating. We are particularly pleased with the improved results considering the ongoing attendance headwind that a smaller Active Pass Base represents. For the full five weeks of July, attendance was up 1% and preliminary net revenues were down approximately 3% reflecting the pressure on guest spending due to attendance mix and the impact of recent promotional offerings in the market. At the legacy company level, attendance in July at our Cedar Fair parks was up 3% or more than 180,000 visits and preliminary revenues were up 2% or approximately 7% or $7,000,000 demonstrating the strong consumer appeal of our more established properties.
Meanwhile, demand trends at our legacy Six Flags parks improved significantly from the second quarter, but remained down 1% or approximately 54,000 visits for the month. At the individual park level, we’re seeing returns on the initiatives we’ve implemented and the investments we’ve made. The recent improvement in attendance has been led by the performance of our 15 largest properties where our capital programs were concentrated this year. Combined attendance at those 15 locations was up 5% over the past four weeks underscoring our belief that the second quarter headwinds were transient and not reflective of a fundamental change in the business. Case in point, recent demand trends at Cedar Point, Kings Island, Canada’s Wonderland, Knott’s Berry Farm and Kings Dominion have meaningfully accelerated reflecting the strength of our loyal customer base and the value of the investments we made at those parks this season.
On a combined basis, attendance at those five parks over the past four weeks was up 8% or approximately 250,000 visits. Canada’s Wonderland and the introduction of the new dual launch coaster Alpin Fury has been nothing short of a standout success story. Since the July 12 debut of its new coaster, the park has seen attendance improved by 20% over the prior year during the same timeframe, which in turn has helped drive a more than 20% lift in fast lane sales. Moreover, since the Rides opening there has been a surge in season pass sales, up more than 100,000 units in the weeks following the coaster’s debut. We are seeing similar success at the legacy Six Flags parks where we concentrated our efforts and our capital investments in 2025, including Magic Mountain, Fiesta Texas, Six Flags Great America and Six Flags Over Georgia.
Attendance at those four parks was up approximately 76,000 visits or 6% over the last four weeks of July. In addition to the green shoots we are seeing emerge from this year’s capital program, our 2026 season pass program is off to an outstanding start across the system. We launched the program several weeks earlier this year to take advantage of anticipated pent up market demand. Since the end of the second quarter, we’ve increased season pass sales of 700,000 units, reducing our second quarter deficit by more than half in only one month. The strong start represents the first step in building a solid foundation for the 2026 season and provides meaningful momentum for the remainder of the 2025 season.
Now let me address our updated guidance. Through the first seven months of the year, we’ve seen both the impact of a very challenging first half and the encouraging rebound that began in July. Taking this into account along with our outlook for the balance of the year, we are revising our full year 2025 adjusted EBITDA guidance to a range of $860,000,000 to $910,000,000 from the prior range of 1,080,000,000.00 to $1,120,000,000 This revision reflects the impacts of the extraordinary weather disruptions earlier in the year, a smaller active pass base heading into the second half and a consumer who appears more value conscious than a year ago. It also reflects the strong response we’ve seen in July and the weather conditions over the balance of the year are comparable to the prior year and the current macroeconomic conditions maintain. At the midpoint of this guidance, we expect attendance for the second half of the year to be flat compared to the last year after accounting for the loss of 500,000 visits associated with the removal of lower margin higher risk winter holiday events at Fort Parks this year.
We expect that in park per capita spending over the 2025 will be down approximately 3% consistent with our most recent trends and reflective of the projected impact of planned promotional offers and attendance mix over the balance of the year. And lastly, the midpoint reflects the expected reduction of second half operating costs and expenses excluding adjusted EBITDA add backs by approximately $90,000,000 compared with the 2024. Achieving our back half cost reduction goal of $90,000,000 will bring full year costs and expenses down 3% compared to last year’s full year combined spend for the legacy companies. As we noted in this morning’s release, approximately one third of these savings reflect costs that were shifted in the first half of the year and approximately two thirds representing permanent cost savings. On an annualized run rate basis, the second half permanent cost savings bring our total merger related cost synergies at the 2025 to approximately $120,000,000 when compared with the cost synergies we achieved in 2024.
With that, I’d like to turn the call back over to Richard.
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Thanks, Brian. While we are disappointed by the need to lower full year adjusted EBITDA guidance, we believe it is a prudent and realistic measure given uncertain market dynamics and a slower first half than we expected at the outset of 2025. Importantly, we would anticipate much stronger second half results with normalized weather conditions, improved demand trends, a positive response to our 2025 capital program and disciplined expense control. We are mindful of our company’s leverage and remain committed to paying down debt as quickly as possible. As Brian noted, we are evaluating opportunity to monetize noncore assets, which could significantly accelerate deleveraging.
The near term headwinds we faced in the 2025 were ill timed just as we are coming off an outstanding fourth quarter and hitting our stride as a combined company. But exogenous factors do not change the long term trajectory or the outlook for Six Flags. We’ve already seen demand return as weather has improved and believe the strategic actions we are taking will result in the performance we are targeting for the 2025 as well as set us up for a breakthrough 2026 season. As we move through the second half of the year, we are focused on executing the opportunities over which we have control, building upon the momentum we’ve seen in July and delivering the kind of guest experiences that drive loyalty and sustained growth. A key part of this work is our systems integration project, which is on track to deliver a new ticketing platform, a fully reengineered in park mobile app, and a more interactive e commerce site, all scheduled to launch in November.
To close, let me bring everyone back to the bigger picture. We are building a better business with a more stable cost structure, an expanded suite of products and an unrelenting drive to create unforgettable moments for every guest who visits our parks. Our strategy is clear, invest in value enhancing profitable growth, rapidly reduce leverage, and create value for our guests, our associates, and our shareholders. Let me leave you with this. Our company is strong, our strategy is sound, and the opportunities are real.
We will continue to manage this business with discipline, with an eye on this long term, knowing that along the way, there will always be difficult cycles, unanticipated surprises, and unexpected volatility. What matters, however, that we continue to stay focused on our guests, execute with excellence, invest where we see durable returns. Rob, that concludes our prepared remarks. Please open the line for questions.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from the line of Steve Wieczynski from Stifel. Your line is open.
Steve Wieczynski, Analyst, Stifel: Yes. Hey, guys. Good morning. So Richard or Brian, I guess to start, I’m kind of confused in terms of your macro pressure comments. When you refer to macro pressures, are you referring to weather?
Or are you indicating that you’ve seen a material change in customer spending patterns because of macro fears, which aren’t weather related? I just can’t figure out what you guys are referring to. Weather headwinds make sense to us. But if you’re saying your customer base has slowed or become more cautious in terms of spending, I guess that would be somewhat confusing given spend patterns across a lot of other consumer verticals have remained pretty healthy at this point. So any color there would be helpful.
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Steve, let me jump in here and Brian can weigh in. When we talk about macro factors, weather is clearly a dominant factor, as you said. And when we look at that, clearly, that impact was significant. The other thing that we look at is we look at the spending once people come inside the gate, we’ve commented on that. We are seeing a little bit of pressure on our lower income consumer.
As we look at our our demographics and folks who are coming, we think that there, you know, are segments of the of our markets that are feeling pressure in different ways market by market. Brian?
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yes. The only thing I would add, Steve, is as Richard noted, we’re watching closely the difference between consumer and the higher end consumer. As you know Steve we haven’t seen a significant pullback in customer behavior at the parks. When they’re there, they’re spending particularly at our more established largest properties. What we did see in the first half is something I think we’ve talked about previously which is the urgency around visitation in the front half of the year is much lower than it is as we get deeper into the year.
So I think one of those macro trends not necessarily a change in consumer mindset or I’m sorry consumer behavior but maybe more in consumer mindset and the comment that the value proposition needs to be really high. And so we’re focused on that lower end consumer and monitoring where that moves. But we’re not seeing significant change in our guest behavior once they’re at the parks.
Steve Wieczynski, Analyst, Stifel: Okay. Gotcha. And then second question, just trying to understand where we sit today versus back in a couple months ago, back in May when you guys provided those 2020 financial targets. So I guess what I’m trying to figure out is, obviously, yes, weather has been a massive headwind here in May and June. But wondering why that would have such a material impact on these goals that were kind of put in place for three years out.
Maybe saying that a little bit differently, you know, I would have thought your 28 targets would have embedded, you know, some pretty, you know, significant unperfect weather, macro headwinds, something along those lines that would still kinda allow you to get close to that 1 and a half billion dollar target. So I’m not sure if maybe you guys are kinda walking that target back now given the change with Richard and a new CEO coming. I guess I’m just a little bit confused there.
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Steve, as we noted in our prepared remarks, we believe the challenges we faced in the first half of the year are largely transient and not reflective of fundamental change in the consumer that would disrupt, as you said, the long term potential of the business. With that said, we’re going to reassess our long term guidance after the season has closed and following the release of our full year 2025 financial results. You know, when I look at the recovery we’ve seen let me let me go back to what we’ve seen in July. 1% for the five week up in attendance, 4% on the four weeks, more recently in the last two weeks of the month, up 8%. When you look at the acceleration, you know, we we are seeing tremendous response and people coming back.
Matter of fact, in the first two days of this week, we’re up 80,000 almost 90,000 visits on Monday and Tuesday that just concluded. So as we think about the long term potential, we still believe that that the strategies we’re laying in place will drive and and let us get to that long term potential. But we do wanna make sure that we take a look at at how the the second half unfolds. We you know, what I’ve said to the team, and and I wanna be very clear. You know, while I’m the CEO, we’re gonna focus on finishing ’25 strong and building the strongest possible momentum for ’26.
And I think that’ll give us an ability to really focus on on those long term targets and address those once we get to the end of the year and into the first part of next year.
Steve Wieczynski, Analyst, Stifel: Okay. Got you. Thanks, Richard. Thanks, Brian. Appreciate it.
Ian Zaffino, Analyst, Oppenheimer: Thanks, Steve.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Arpine Kacharya from UBS. Your line is open.
Arpine Kacharya, Analyst, UBS: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. So you mentioned accelerating divestitures. Could you give a broader sense of what you’re looking at and the timing of those divestitures, fully understanding that some of that is more tied to sort of the transaction markets. But sitting here today, how would you size that opportunity beyond what we already know, and what could that mean for deleveraging targets that you have medium term?
Thank you. And I have a quick follow-up.
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Yeah. I’ll jump in. And, again, Brian could weigh in. As we look at the portfolio, we’re we’re we’re clearly taking a strategic look at it, working closely with our board. And we’ll have more to share as we go through that.
We’re trying to execute very quickly on the two noncore asset sales that we talked about and have a process underway for each of those. We’re also engaged in evaluating the rest of what we think is potential given market conditions and how quickly we can move to potentially divest other things that we would consider noncore. Brian?
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yeah. I guess I would just, Arpine, I would just add, with the lion’s share of our EBITDA, 90 plus percent of the EBITDA coming from, our largest 15 or 16 locations. We’ve said all along our priority when it comes to thinking about optimizing the portfolio lies in several core objectives. One is narrowing management’s focus, reducing risk and simplifying our capital needs to those most key and strategic assets. Deleveraging will be a benefit of that, but those remain the priorities when it comes to our focus on optimizing the portfolio.
Arpine Kacharya, Analyst, UBS: Okay. Thank you. And then a quick clarification question. Highlighted acceleration in cost saves for the back half of about 90,000,000 but what I think was closer to 70,000,000 before today. But then there is about 25,000,000 of pull forward of cost that moved from the back half to the to to q two, but to to q two.
So what what sort of the upside to actual synergies outside of that pull forward of cost? I’m I’m trying to understand a little bit better. What on a full year basis, what’s the upside today versus what you were looking at it? What you were looking at in terms of cost synergies? Thank you.
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yes. Coming into the year, I’ll remind you, Harpreetam, we realized between the two combined companies close to $55,000,000 of synergies in 2024. As we roll into 2025, our goal was to finish realizing the original $120,000,000 target. And so we had set an objective of $65 plus million of synergies for this year. The $90,000,000 target for the second half of this year if you look at what we would consider the permanent cost savings as I said of the $90,000,000 second half reduction close to two thirds of that is permanent cost savings.
When we annualize on a run rate a few of those items like the full time headcount reductions as one example, We get close to that $65 plus million of permanent cost synergies in 2025 getting us to that full $120,000,000 We will continue to look for more cost savings and there are additional synergies as we roll into 2026. We’ll provide more of an outlook on that as we get to the end of this year and we focus on next year. But for this year we’ll have checked the box on realizing the $120,000,000 of original merger related cost synergies once we execute on the second half objectives and targets.
Arpine Kacharya, Analyst, UBS: Thank you. That’s helpful. Thanks.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Your next question comes from the line of James Hardiman from Citi. Your line is open.
James Hardiman, Analyst, Citi: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my call. So maybe let’s just do a little bit of math on the guidance. If we look at the midpoint previously versus today, I think you were we’re we’re talking about a a $215,000,000 cut, versus the the the prior guide. Now, obviously, you don’t give us explicit quarterly guidance, but I get to maybe, I don’t know, a $160,000,000 miss versus q two.
And, ultimately, I’m getting to maybe an implied sort of 50 to 60 lower in the second half. Maybe if if you could share share how we should be thinking about that math ultimately, what what of the guide down is 2Q versus the back half of the year? And particularly as we think about the the second half reduction in expectations, how much of that is just the lost season pass revenues that it’s pretty difficult to make up, right, if people weren’t there in in May and June buying those season passes? And how much of it is sort of everything else? That would be helpful.
Thanks.
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yeah. James, it’s Brian. I’ll I’ll try it this way, and you can tell me if I if I answer it or we can we can go down another path. I mean, when we came into this year and the midpoint of our of our guidance range of 1,100,000,000.0 was, you know, largely tied to, volume, right? Attendance growth of close to three plus percent.
A big chunk of that was through the expectation and the goal of driving a significant increase in that Active Pass Base. As you noted and as we said in our prepared remarks that has not happened in the first half of the year. Things were significantly disrupted. We lost a significant amount of passes more than 300,000 season pass sales down in the month of May and June again all sort of tied back to the weather disruptions that we spoke about. So that is the biggest and most significant headwind that we’ve seen.
In terms of the cost side of the business, I think we’re going to execute on not only the cost savings that we had identified coming into the year. There will be incremental savings beyond, but those are more tied towards the lower volume responding to the lower demand levels or the lower attendance levels that we’ve seen this year. So as we think about as we’ve laid out in the prepared remarks and we think about the second half of the year achieving attendance of flat given that shortfall in the season pass space or the active pass space and the elimination of approximately 500,000 visits associated with the four winter event that we’re unplugging. That’s reflecting growth of 1% to 2% in the balance of the business, again in spite of a season pass base or an active pass base that is still down on a year over year basis.
James Hardiman, Analyst, Citi: That is helpful. And then maybe a question about costs. We talked about the fact that you really leaned into to advertising spend and and, I guess, maintenance spend is is gonna be a little bit different than that. But maybe walk us through the timing of that spending. Obviously, if it’s raining and cold, you know, advertising might not, you know, really move the needle.
So I’m guessing that this was more once weather got a little bit better that you you sort of leaned into that. But I’m trying to just figure out how much of that OpEx spend was incremental and, you know, what that ultimately looks like next year. Because even when I sort of back out the the 25,000,000 of cost that you’ve laid out, it seems like a lot of growth in terms of operating expenses. So just trying to think through that.
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yes. So let’s break it into some pieces. Your comments about the advertising. So the lion’s share of the pull forward as we noted is advertising. And I agree with your comment that the advertising the decision to pull forward advertising a little bit different animal than the pull forward of maintenance because maintenance expense can fluctuate just based on things that happen sometimes unpredictably during the course of the year.
But the advertising pull forward, when we made those decisions to pull forward advertising, it was before necessarily the bad weather really kicked off or really accelerated in the May, right? You don’t just turn advertising on overnight, right? We made that decision as we were turning into Q2, the beginning of the quarter and put those things in motion. So we can look back with hindsight and say, if you’d have known the weather was going to be what it was for six seven weeks, would you or wouldn’t you have done it? But I think at the moment it was the right strategic decision.
And while we didn’t see the near term or the immediate lift, I think we still believe that it’s benefiting us in July and the results we’re putting up this over the past four or five weeks and will benefit us going forward. In terms of other costs or the cost savings, our cost savings objectives coming into this year as I said in my prepared remarks, we’re always more back half loaded. The business I think as you know James following it as long as you have is that we’re a second half business, right? The biggest months are July, August and October. Between those three months you probably do about based on historical patterns as much as 80% plus 80%, 82% of your full year EBITDA is generated then.
And that’s where the lion’s share of the biggest days are, your highest staffing levels where you have the most ability to as I said on the call meaningfully impact the cost structure without disrupting the guest experience. And so we were always more back half weighted in terms of our goal of realizing cost savings. That has accelerated though with the pull forward of if you remember in the first quarter we talked about pulling forward close to $10,000,000 of advertising and maintenance and now another $25,000,000 in the second quarter. So the first half costs are up somewhere in the 30,000,000 to $35,000,000 Some of those advertising dollars that we pulled forward in the first quarter likely were second quarter. So I’ll call it 30,000,000 to $35,000,000 overall.
So the second half of the year is going to be where the opportunity is the richest to mine the cost savings. And we’ve already put in place or in motion the decisions to realize the largest chunks of that $90,000,000
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Yeah, James. Let me go back to the advertising question. It’s Richard. And when we look back on 2024, we knew coming into ’25 that we had the that a lot of our growth is going be tied to season pass. We want to make sure we supported that program in the spring strategically.
We did. If you go back and look at 2020 2024, we put in the market more advertising in the late July through August time frame to try and drive a stronger second half of the summer. Didn’t see what we wanted to see out of that, but it did, to Brian’s point, really help drive a 20% increase in the October attendance. So there’s always residual impact from the advertising. We put it out there, remind consumers that you’re still there.
So always difficult to always look at it one for one. But we wanted to make sure coming into the year that we gave ourselves the firepower we needed to really chase the season passes. Now what we’re seeing now is that there may be some residual impact from what we put in the market because we were off to a really strong start, really strong start to the 2026 season, which will also help underpin our second half performance. So we’re pleased with that, but we think we’ve got a long ways to go.
Steve Wieczynski, Analyst, Stifel: That’s helpful. Thanks, guys.
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Thanks, James.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ben Chagin from Mizuho. Your line is open.
Ben Chagin, Analyst, Mizuho: Hey, good morning. Maybe just a clarification cost. I don’t totally follow the variables. So I guess your guide prior to this quarter was for cash cost to be down 3%. It’s kind of like what we were talking about on 1Q.
Then attendance was materially lower with incremental park closures. I think you kind of suggested the prepared remarks somewhere around 30 incremental park closure days year over year. So why is minus three still the right answer? Shouldn’t that be an opportunity for cost to be much lower?
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: We’re going to continue to look, Ben, for incremental savings beyond. But at the same time, as I mentioned, the need to balance investing in the parks that are underperforming and establishing the momentum that we need going into 2026 that becomes sort of the trade off, right? So as we think about the biggest areas to take cost out of are always labor, maintenance costs. Those are and we’ve already addressed the advertising. Labor seasonal labor most notably and maintenance are our biggest areas to have impact.
So as we evaluate the opportunities to take more cost out that weighs into that decision. Now where there will be incremental savings opportunities, what’s not reflected in that 3% target is cost of goods. So to the extent that fluctuates up or down with demand that will provide some incremental tailwind around the cost savings. But the cash operating costs that we’re talking about our goal is to still deliver close to that that 3% which would be close to a $60,000,000 reduction from the combined spend last year.
Ben Chagin, Analyst, Mizuho: Yes. I guess I’m just trying to figure out if the parks were not even open. Like what’s the offset? If there’s again, these are round numbers, 30 incremental park closure days. Where is the can you help us with the offset of what are the costs went up maybe that are keeping you at that minus three?
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Well, so you’re talking about within within the second quarter. Yeah. I mean, listen. Within the second quarter, we we had more I’m talking about the full year.
Ben Chagin, Analyst, Mizuho: For the full year, cash cost, the goal is still to be down three, but you but you which is the same as the original goal, which is minus three. But you had $39.5
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: closures.
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yeah. We are adding days back in the sec adding more days in the second half of the year. So there’s a year over year comparison issue that goes the other way to your point about the more closed days in the second quarter this year. We’re adding 30 to 35 incremental days in the fall as we look to tap into the strong demand for the Halloween events that we offer Fright Fest, Haunt, etcetera. And so that puts pressure on that number going the other way.
But still in line with achieving the original target of 3%.
Ben Chagin, Analyst, Mizuho: Okay. And then as you’ve seen demand come back in the last few weeks, does that give you confidence and ability to push price? Maybe you could kind of expand on your price thought process in the back half of the year under different demand scenarios, right? You talked about the last four weeks being up four, the last five weeks being up one and the expectation that pricing will be down three.
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Maybe help us parse that out. Ben, we’re looking closely at pricing. Yes. When we see demand, we’re taking price. We’re looking at the parts that are doing extremely well and being able to do that.
As we’ve always said, Halloween, in particular, is the gift that keeps on giving. We’ve added days because we think not only can we drive attendance, but that’s where we’ve got our most pricing power. You know? So when we look at the pricing on the pure admission side, we think we’ve got ability to be careful with the value conscious customer, drive that season pass, but particularly take price on our bigger days. We’ve been particularly aggressive on our front of line experience and have seen tremendous response at the parks.
We’ve been able to lean into pricing for that. So we’re taking pricing where we can and where we see that demand. The other thing that I’ll say that that Brian touched on is if you look at the the last year comparison in the second quarter, very choppy schedule, operating schedule last year as well with some parks not being open quite as long. We’ve extended, as I said in my prepared remarks, we’ve added some incremental operating hours to the parks to get longer length of stay and get give the guest a little more value when you compare that year over year.
Lizzie Dove, Analyst, Goldman Sachs: Thanks.
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Thanks, Ben. Your
Rob, Conference Call Operator: next question comes from the line of Ian Zaffino from Oppenheimer. Your line is open.
Ian Zaffino, Analyst, Oppenheimer: Hi, great. Thank you very much. Wanted to just drill a little bit into the in park spend and I guess the decline you’re talking about of 4%. What is basically driving that? I know you talked about some promotions, but then you kind of said customer was okay.
So why do we need the promotions at this point? Is that just for the low end? And then also when you talk about mix, you’re talking about explain that a a little bit to me because if season passes are down, you’d you’d be expecting more daily passes, right, as far as attendance. So wouldn’t that have the opposite effect? And I have a follow-up.
Thanks.
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Ian, when when you look at the the attendance mix, I’ll start with that one first, in particular, in the second quarter. Season passes will come and you can get their visits in, as we’ve always said. And when you have a high percentage season pass, that puts pressure on the per cap. But when you get extreme weather events like we had through those seven weeks when we were down significantly, you lose almost all your demand tickets, your one day tickets. So as we think about that, that puts a lot of pressure on the per cap.
As we look at it now, when we talk about promotional offers, we’re making sure that we’re trying to target the get the customer to come, give them an opportunity to visit lower price on a Tuesday versus a Saturday. We’re leaning more and more into into into the demand that we’re seeing and changing prices on the fly as as our business intelligence team and our revenue management team looks at the the trends each week. They’re taking prices up during the week. So we continue to do what we can to try and drive as much. Brian, you want to comment on the down four?
Anything you want to add on that?
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yes. Mean, I think I’ll just go back to what you were saying in terms of mix. Ian, mix cuts a few different ways. You touched on one, which is channel mix. Within the channel mix we’re also seeing as an example season pass a little bit more migration this year as we harmonize the legacy programs to align with one another.
We’re seeing in terms of the 25 pass mix a little bit of a migration down at our 6 Flags Parks to some of the lower priced products in that mix. So that’s putting a little bit of pressure. It’s not only mix between season pass and single day tickets, but it’s also within the individual channels as well. As we think about promotions as Richard said going forward, our focus is to try and add value. As we said the consumer seems much more value conscious this year than the last couple of years.
And we’ve what we’ve tried to do historically is instead of discounting tickets provide more value in products whether that be season pass or single day tickets to get people to move. And we do that out of the goal of not eroding our price integrity of our ticketing structure, right? And so things like the Allpark add on as a benefit for those migrating up to the highest tier passes in our system for next year. The objective there is test that again what has proven successful historically and get folks migrating back up to those higher priced products that maybe they had in 2025 bought down as we harmonize the products. So that’s the mix comment that we’re talking about.
Ian Zaffino, Analyst, Oppenheimer: Okay. Thanks. And then just quickly, there’s just been there’s a lot of noise as far as cost in the quarter. What would you kind of point us to as a decremental margin or like a normalized decremental margin if there kind of wasn’t all these moving pieces in this quarter? Thanks.
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yes. So I guess as it relates to margin, I mean I’ll try and answer it this way for you Ian. The impact of pulling forward some cost into 2000 or into the second quarter in 2025 certainly without getting the return in incremental demand has put pressure on margin. The loss of just I mean again this is a volume driven business right? And so the first attendance that we lose is the highest margin attendance particularly as we’re staffing our parks these days.
The staffing model today is very different than it was five or six years ago because the cost of labor is so much higher. So we staff our parks at more of base level and then increase staffing as needed and as might be available. Historically, used to be You’d staff higher and pull staffing out as you didn’t need it. That’s changed over the last four or five years.
So when we lose attendance, losing 1,400,000 visitors over the last six weeks of the second quarter, that’s all very high margin attendance lost. You’re talking about attendance that’s falling out depending on the park at a level that could be as high as 55% to 70% margin attendance that’s falling out of system.
Ian Zaffino, Analyst, Oppenheimer: Okay. Thank you very much.
James Hardiman, Analyst, Citi: You’re welcome.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Your next question comes from the line of David Katz from Jefferies. Your line is open.
Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations, Six Flags0: Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. I we’ve sort of had a lot of discussion about the quarter and the back half of the year. I wanted to maybe just focus you know, the the analyst meeting forecast, right, which it would seem is, you know, called into question or or or, you know, however we would classify it. With you know, which wasn’t that long ago.
Can you can you just walk us through sort of what, you know, what what’s changed or, you know, what aspects, you know, could have been, you know, different with within that, you know, guide. Right? The weather is the weather, you know, but but that was a little longer term vision.
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yes. I’ll take a Let shot and then let Richard
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: me jump in. When we talk about longer term guidance and we look at what we think the full profit potential of our portfolio parks is, I don’t think our view of that has changed. I think we think there’s still that potential. I strongly believe that. When you look at that and we look back at the building blocks of that, and Brian touched on this in his answer, we always said this is a volume business and that you our goal was to recover the 10,000,000 of visits.
8,000,000 of those visits were gonna come from season pass. So our view of the world hasn’t changed from that perspective, which is why we’re gonna wait to reassess the long term guidance till early next year. When you see the risk when when we say that we’re up 700,000 in our Active Pass Base in July, double the amount that we were up last year when you look at 2,024, same month of July, Then we’re starting to see what we would want to see and traction in the areas we want to see traction. So yes, weather is weather. Yes, we’ve had a tough the second quarter was a tough quarter, particularly those seven last weeks.
That doesn’t change our view of the longer term potential or the profit potential of the parks. As Brian said in his remarks, where we’ve invested capital and the weather has cleared out and normalized, we’re starting to see the consumer reaction we would expect. So all of those things underpin our view of the world as we saw it when we with you on May 20. And as we look forward to what we think the potential of this business is, those are the building blocks that are still the right building blocks for us to focus on and to keep sharing with you our progress on that. Ryan?
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yeah. The only thing I was going to add, Richard, just underscore what you said is that a transient disruption like we’ve seen here in the 2025 doesn’t change our outlook long term outlook for the business. What I think is responsible is waiting to see how the balance of the year performs not so much for what it means to 2025. This is a challenging year and the results are going to be disappointing no matter what compared to what they were coming into the year. But what’s important is to see the momentum that we’ve built, the base that we’ve established in terms of those long lead indicators, notably season pass sales or the active pass base, group business, resort bookings to have an outlook going into 2026 as much around the pacing going forward to those long term targets.
I think we’re not walking away from our long term objectives, but I think it’s important to understand coming out of this year what it means to the near term pacing of getting to those long term targets.
Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations, Six Flags0: I think that’s fair. And and, you know, just to follow-up, is it is it also fair that we should think about, you know, much of, what what’s occurred within the six legacy parks more so than the Cedar Fair legacy parks? The implication being that those have maybe turned out to be a bit of a different animal than what was expected. Is that something we should take away here, too?
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: No, I wouldn’t say that. What I would say is I think and we’ve talked about underpenetrated parks on both sides of the legacy portfolios. We’ve had and we’ve commented on the parks that performed well on both sides. We’re happy to see 6% on the legacy Six Flags, 8% on the legacy Cedar. But there’s also other parks.
Dorney Park a year after Coaster, you don’t expect them to maintain their attendance level. That’s the way we invest. You’ve got other parks that are underpenetrated with opportunity on both sides of the portfolio. So in any given year, you try and really optimize where you’re driving the demand while you’re managing where you’re not investing and make sure you’re being really disciplined on delivering on free cash flow and doing other things at those other parts. The other thing that I’ll say is we’ve strategically, we talked about this on Investor Day as well, really invested a lot into food and beverage and continue to get great feedback from the guests on both sides of the portfolio with all the things that we’ve done on food and beverage and how we’ve reconfigured that program and are continuing to reconfigure it.
So that both drives that both drives revenue, but it also drives higher guest satisfaction. And as we’ve always said, when we get higher guest satisfaction, we see repeat visitation from season passes. We also get higher renewal rates, which is one of the things we’re really focused on, making sure we we start to see convergence and increasing on the on the on the renewal rates of season passes on both sides of the portfolio. So I do think there’s opportunity on both. We see that this year with the strong performance out of Canada and out of Cedar Point and in a few other places.
So when you when you look at where the opportunities are, I don’t think they’re specific to either side of the portfolio. But, obviously, we wanna go get, as we said, those 10,000,000 visits back over the next few years.
Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations, Six Flags0: Understood. Thank you very much.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Lizzie Dove from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Lizzie Dove, Analyst, Goldman Sachs: Hi, there. Thanks so much for taking the question. I just wanted to ask on the CapEx side of things. Firstly, just to clarify, I think you said $400,000,000 just want to check if that was I think it was 26 or whether it was 25,000,000 And then how you think about that? Because you mentioned when you do add new rides into the parks, like you mentioned with Canada’s Wonderland, you do see intendants grow, but of course, there’s cash considerations and leverage considerations.
And so with pulling back on that CapEx, how do you kind of balance that and think about the attendance opportunity as a result?
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Good question, Lizzie. Thanks for the question. When we think about making sure we’ve got what we need from a marketable capital perspective, you want to get full benefit out of the strong program we put in this year. We don’t think we’ve gotten full benefit. We think we can lean on that a little bit next year as well.
For instance, Canada’s having a great month of July, but they only opened their coaster on July 12. And, typically, on the bigger products, we see a little bit of carryover into the following year. So when we think about that calendar year $400,000,000 that’ll be the spending on two or three programs, certainly on ’26, also a little bit of ’27. We’ve already spent on ’26 because we’ve signed contracts and done things like that. We’re going to continue to invest in food and beverage.
We’ve got a lineup of some really impactful products, but we’re coming off a year where we really didn’t get as much traction as we wanted in part because of the ill timed weather. And we think we can lean into getting benefit of some of what we added this year and next year, while continuing to invest in the amenities in the park, while continuing to invest in food and beverage and other things that will drive our demand. Brian, anything you want to add?
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: No. I’ll just clarify to your question at the beginning, Lizzie. The CapEx spend for this year is still in the $475,000,000 to $500,000,000 range, and we’ll continue to update that as we get closer to year end. Next year’s is the $400.20 26,000,000
Lizzie Dove, Analyst, Goldman Sachs: Got it. And then just to kind of follow-up on David’s question a little bit on the legacy six parts. Your attendance decline was somewhat similar at legacy six and legacy cedar, but the EBITDA result or the pressure was a lot worse at Legacy six. I think the margins are about 16%. And so I’m curious just like how you think about like reinvestment needs in those parks and how kind of quickly those kind of initiatives can kind of come through over the next few years?
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Yeah. As we look at the Lizzie, good question. When I think back to where we successfully revived underpenetrated parks, certainly that I’ve been involved with. We’ve talked at length about the Knott’s example, the Carowinds example. It’s as much about consistent investment in things that the the guests see and touch, the amenities, the food and beverage, the other things we’ve referenced, along with making sure when you put something in that it really drives demand.
So we try and balance that in every year, but and particularly on the underpenetrated parks and and some legacy six, couple in the legacy Cedar, consistent investment in in the amenities, touching a section of the park, letting the guests know that you’re taking care of and you’re giving them more value. We see that over time, that’s as important as the level of investment.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Brandt Montour from Barclays. Your line is open.
Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations, Six Flags1: Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. Just one for me. You hear me?
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Yes. We can hear you, Brandt. Thanks.
Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations, Six Flags1: Okay. Great. Thanks. So for the July stats, I know you gave a lot of stats. I was hoping for a sort of a system wide look at July attendance excluding hurricane affected markets because I know hurricanes created a really easy comp, somewhere throughout the month at various parks and various regions.
And obviously, the point is that, with the tenants up 1% for that month, we want to get confidence, against that 1% to 2% implied second half guide that you kind of gave ex the winter events.
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yes, Brandt. So I’ll answer it this way. You’re right. I mean last year July’s numbers were impacted by some hurricane events. By comparison, the July was sort of that last week of the really bad weather we saw at the end of the second quarter.
So the six weeks that finished up the second quarter, there was that July four that was really sort of a slow start. That’s why we talked about the last four weeks of July the strength we saw up 4% versus for the whole month only 1%. So when you push those two things together the weather comps actually this year aren’t really all that aided by what happened last year. The other part that was that more of our small parks are standalone water parks and some of our smaller parks were more impacted last year, while this year we saw some of our largest parks in the system that were impacted parks like Cedar Point, Canada’s Wonderland, Great America in Chicago to name a few. And so it’s always a question of when and where.
And the where was much worse this year for the July than what we saw last year with the hurricane challenges we faced.
Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations, Six Flags1: Okay. Thanks for that. Actually, do have one more, if I may. You guys pulled forward you pulled you opened up past sales earlier this year. You pulled forward advertising.
I think the benefits or the potential benefits you’re aiming for there are pretty self explanatory. The question I have is, you know, what are the opportunity costs of those moves? I mean, just presumably, if it was super obvious and there were no costs associated with that, you would kind of do that every year. Right? So I guess, are there any sort of knock on effects or sort of pull forward that we need to think about that that maybe, like, in terms of 26 attendance that that that those moves perhaps, might create on the negative side?
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: No. I think it’s a fair question. Most of the the impact, Brent, is really situated in this year, not next year. I’ll go back to my prepared remarks. When we have a really strong second half season pass sales in the fall and through the winter, it sets up a really strong first half to the next year.
One of the things that we’ve always said is when we open new product, we want to tie that to the sales cycle. One of the reasons we went earlier with Canada’s Wonderland is we didn’t want to open the coaster and not give the people not give the consumer an ability to buy something they really saw value with. We know that you’re the wind down phase of season pass launch. When you get to July, you’re about to launch the new one. Our customers are trained to know that.
So think I the knock on effects could be a little bit season instead of a single day ticket. We like that. That’s a trade we’ll take every day. Go back to our Investor Day presentation. Season pass holders worth 250, $275 over the course of a year in terms of spending versus, you know, an 80 to $90 on a single day visitor.
So when you when you put all those things together, I I think the benefit of increased volume typically leads to a really strong back half of the year and a much stronger front half of the following season.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Chris Woronka from Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.
Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations, Six Flags2: Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for hanging in there with our questions. So this will be another season pass question, but maybe in a slightly different way. You know, I think you guys have said in the past, you know, you’re adding something like 20 or 25% of your of your visits from from passes. And knowing that you can’t predict the weather, you’re somewhat similar to the ski industry.
Right? And, you know, I think I think there’s at least one ski company out there that is, you know, consistently saying they’re now getting 70% of their their lift ticket revenue from past sales. And I’m curious as whether you guys have done the math and and, you know, if if you they had to take a price and cut initially to get there or they’d launch the big pass. Have you guys done the math on whether something like that works for you? Do you is there is there a consideration to to to creating a, you know, some kind of epic path longer path and and maybe getting more commitment upfront, albeit at a at a lower price?
Is that can you get to that level, you think?
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Well, the way Chris, let me answer it this way, and Brian can weigh in. You know, the way we structure our program, the lowest price is always in the fall, and then we we take price and step up price to drive urgency. But one of the reasons we wanted to you know, we talked about the the potential of this merger just like with Epic Pass. The value is in all the mountains you can go to if you step up to Epic Pass. Brian touched this in his prepared remarks.
We we’ve layered in the all park access to this early offer to really test what kind of demand we can derive and not just in unit sales, but how much interest is there and how can we strategically reinforce the value of all 42 of our parks. So we’re trying to tap strategically the same thing that I think others have done, Vail or Icon, in the number of mountains that they have. And whether or not you visit the other mountains, you can, and it’s the appeal of the product. So I think that’s really what we’re testing, and we’re pleased so far with what we’re seeing. I also think, you know, we’re gonna be pleased with with what we’re the early response we’re getting in terms of renewals already.
Brian?
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yes. Would just I would add. I mean, I think the decisions around pass pricing, Chris, are always made at the individual park level because they vary park to park. I understand the scenario that you sort of laid out. As I look across the system and what we’ve tried to migrate to is a good, better, best in terms of pricing and benefits associated with the pass program.
We really don’t have any passes or park level programs out there that at this point are uber priced at least at the core gold product which is where the majority of the buyers slot to and where we really sort of steer them. We I think maybe just to provide a little history, we did execute a very similar playbook to what you described at Cedar Point. We have stalled at that park around 110,000, 120,000 season passes. And we really only had one product. It was at the time called Platinum, now would be the equivalent of Prestige.
That pass was over a couple of $100 and more than double most of our other parks passes. Could never get ourselves confidence to chase more volume. Eventually through a lot of analysis got there and cut the pass price basically in half and saw 120,000 passes become 400,000 passes where the park has remained for the last half decade. So we execute that at a park level where appropriate. I don’t know as I look across the system right now that that opportunity lies anywhere.
But we’ll continue to evaluate. I think the bigger goal here is and what Richard laid out is driving more volume, right? Add more value to the pass, drive more volume and the trade off for the any perceived revenue risk is easily overcome by that incremental volume that you drive.
Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations, Six Flags2: Guys, thanks for all that color. A quick follow-up if I It it it you know, and it’s a follow on question to that, which is do do you think is there is is your past product lineup stands today and the the tweaks you’re planning to make, do you think there’s enough kind of direct attachment to ancillary? I mean, are are are you you sometimes, it sounds like ancillary is almost you kinda get it and you say, you know, we wish we had more. Is there a way to tie more of that into the season pass? I’m not suggesting you go back to the the unlimited dining plan at all, but are there maybe ways to to encourage more ancillary spend attached to that pass product?
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Yeah. We always we always focus on the all season add ons, And the one of the reasons we’re coming out with our new ecommerce site and our new mobile app will be to really make that path to purchase a lot easier and a lot more engaging with our guests. We’ve seen over time that those those penetration rates have consistently gone up as the consumers realize the value in all those. So I think it’s part making sure we’re conveying the value they can get, part making it a little bit easier on the path to purchase. But the other piece is as those penetration rates go up, we’ve always said this, the more people that buy the all season dining, season beverage, the higher the renewal rate.
So I think it all feeds together, Chris.
Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations, Six Flags2: Fair enough. Thanks, guys.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Your final question today comes from the line of Thomas Yee from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Thanks for squeezing me in. Just to clarify on the 2026 pass cycle, on an apples to apples, gold or prestige basis, is the initial pricing you’re launching with starting at a lower level versus last year? And how much of that is promotional versus a reaction to the incremental pressure that you flagged on the low end consumer?
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yes, Thomas. In terms of pricing again going to vary a little bit park to park in general and what you’re comparing to right? Are you comparing to where we let off in which case as Richard noted fall is always much lower than where the previous season is letting off with its peak summer pricing. So from that perspective if you’re comparing there you’re going to see all the parks down. But if you’re comparing back to last fall for the parks where the comparison is easy and it’s a little bit more challenging as we weren’t necessarily fully harmonized on some of our Six Flags parks last year to the program we’re offering now.
I would say on the Cedar Side, the price is flat to up. On the 6 Side, it’s going to vary a little bit across the good, better, best menu. But I would say at the Gold and Prestige, more of the incentive, if you want to call it incentive, is in the value add, not in a price reduction.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Okay. Understood. And then maybe I could just follow-up on the second half guidance for attendance, assuming a normalized weather environment. Obviously, a crapshoot to predict weather, but is a normalized comparison against last year? Because I believe October was a great weather month for you.
Is there some expectation that you are assuming that that replicates the same way? Or a more normalized version would be kind of like over a longer period of time? Thank you.
Brian Witherow, CFO, Six Flags: Yes. I think as it relates to weather, you’re exactly right. We’re not while we spend an unending amount of time focused on it, it’s not something that we’re experts in or can predict with 100% accuracy. And so as we think about the comparison or whether over the balance of this year, it’s not it’s more so, Thomas, to last year on a comparable basis, meaning last year we had some good weather. As you noted in October, we had some challenging weather particularly the last seven to ten days of September and a little bit as we got into deeper into the fourth quarter.
We would expect that there’s going be good and bad this year. It’s not that we’re looking for ideal or we’re expecting the five weeks of October last year to replicate itself exactly this year. Helping to offset it, as I mentioned earlier on the call, we’re adding some days and even in the process of reviewing the opportunity for more days here or there if demand levels warrant it. And so that provides us a little bit of an insurance to the downside if weather were to be markedly worse during a key week or weekend than it was last year.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Appreciate the color. Thank you.
James Hardiman, Analyst, Citi: You’re welcome.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: That concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to Richard Zimmerman for closing remarks.
Richard Zimmerman, CEO, Six Flags: Thanks, everybody, for joining us on today’s call. For those of you who are unable to visit Cedar Point during our Investor Day, we hope you’ll have a chance to visit one of our parks in your area before the end of the ’25 season. Excited to see for you to see many of the improvements we’ve made since the completion of the merger. On our next earnings call in early November, we’ll update you on our performance of our parks during the busy Halloween season, which should produce once again some of our biggest days of the year. Meantime, it should be posted on other developments as things develop.
Michael?
Michael Russell, Corporate Director of Investor Relations, Six Flags: Thanks, Richard. Please feel free to contact our IR department at (419) 627-2233. As Richard mentioned, our next earnings call will be in November after the release of our twenty twenty five third quarter results. Rob, that concludes today’s call. Thanks, everyone.
Rob, Conference Call Operator: Thank you, everyone, for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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