Earnings call transcript: Somnigroup beats EPS forecast, stock dips post Q2 2025

Somnigroup International Inc. reported its Q2 2025 earnings, showcasing a slight beat on earnings per share (EPS) but with revenue meeting forecasts. The company posted an adjusted EPS of $0.53, surpassing the forecast of $0.52. The stock dipped 2.42% in pre-market trading, reflecting investor concerns despite the earnings beat. Revenue for the quarter was $1.9 billion, aligning with expectations. According to InvestingPro data, the company trades at a premium valuation with a P/E ratio of 47.49x, significantly above industry averages. This high multiple suggests investors have priced in substantial growth expectations.

Key Takeaways

• Somnigroup’s adjusted EPS exceeded expectations by 1.92%.
• Stock price fell by 2.42% in pre-market trading.
• The company launched a major product, the Sealy Posturepedic collection.
• Synergy initiatives are projected to save $100 million annually.
• North American and international bedding markets are experiencing declines.

Company Performance

Somnigroup demonstrated robust performance in Q2 2025, with net sales increasing by 53% year-over-year to $1.9 billion. The company continues to outperform its competitors by expanding its international sales for the ninth consecutive quarter. Despite a challenging market environment, particularly in North America and international markets, Somnigroup remains the largest advertiser in the bedding industry, which has helped maintain its competitive edge.

Financial Highlights

• Revenue: $1.9 billion, up 53% year-over-year.
• Adjusted EPS: $0.53, surpassing the forecast of $0.52.
• Adjusted EBITDA: $291 million, a 26% increase.
• Leverage ratio: 3.6x, with expectations to reduce to 3.35x by year-end.

Earnings vs. Forecast

Somnigroup’s Q2 2025 results showed a minor EPS beat of 1.92%, with actual EPS at $0.53 compared to the forecast of $0.52. Revenue met expectations at $1.9 billion, resulting in no revenue surprise. The EPS beat, while positive, was not significant enough to offset market concerns, as reflected in the stock’s decline.

Market Reaction

Despite the EPS beat, Somnigroup’s stock price fell 2.42% in pre-market trading to $72.74. This decline comes after a previous close of $73.64 and is attributed to broader market concerns and the company’s cautious outlook for the remainder of 2025. The stock trades near its 52-week high of $75.69, having delivered an impressive 55.57% return over the past year. InvestingPro’s Fair Value analysis indicates the stock is currently overvalued, which may explain some investor hesitation.

Outlook & Guidance

Somnigroup provided guidance for 2025, projecting adjusted EPS between $2.40 and $2.70 and a sales midpoint of $7.4 billion. The company expects gross margins slightly above 44% and adjusted EBITDA of $1.27 billion, with capital expenditures around $200 million. These projections reflect cautious optimism amidst market challenges. Analyst consensus remains bullish, with a "Strong Buy" recommendation and price targets ranging from $60 to $90. For comprehensive analysis of Somnigroup’s outlook and valuation metrics, access the detailed Pro Research Report available exclusively on InvestingPro.

Executive Commentary

CEO Scott Thompson expressed confidence in the company’s trajectory, stating, "This has been the smoothest combination I’ve ever experienced in my forty-year career." He emphasized the company’s commitment to innovation and improving consumer lives, noting the success of the Sealy Posturepedic launch.

Risks and Challenges

• Market downturns in North America and internationally could impact growth.
• Supply chain disruptions and tariff impacts pose potential risks.
• Achieving synergy targets and marketing efficiencies will be crucial.
• Consumer confidence remains a variable factor for demand.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts focused on the impact of the Sealy Posturepedic launch and potential growth in comparison to Tempur products. Questions also addressed tariff impacts, which the company is mitigating through supplier adjustments, and the stabilization of consumer confidence, which could influence future performance.

Full transcript - Somnigroup International Inc (SGI) Q2 2025:

Conference Operator: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Somni Group Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. At this time, all lines are in listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. This call is being recorded on Thursday, 08/07/2025. And I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms.

Lauren Aveyt with Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Lauren Aveyt, Investor Relations, Somni Group: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for participating in today’s call. Joining me today are Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO and Bhaskar Rao, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. This call includes forward looking statements that are subject to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward looking statements involve uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially due to a variety of factors that could adversely affect the company’s business.

These factors are discussed in the company’s SEC filings, including its annual reports on Form 10 ks and quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. Any forward looking statement speaks only as of the date on which it is made. The company undertakes no obligation to update any forward looking statements. This morning’s commentary will also include non GAAP financial information. Reconciliations of this non GAAP financial information can be found in the accompanying press release, which has been posted on the company’s website at www.somnigroup.com and filed with the SEC.

Our comments will supplement the detailed information provided in the press release. As a reminder, year over year comparisons are impacted by the acquisition of Mattress Firm in the first quarter and the related divestitures of Sleep Outfitters in certain Mattress Firm retail locations in the second quarter. At certain times on the call, we will focus on like for like numbers defined as reported numbers adjusted for the acquisition and divestiture impact. We believe this better illustrates underlying business trends. And now with that introduction, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Scott.

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: Good morning, and thank you for joining us on our second quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. I’m pleased to report that Sami Group delivered another quarter of solid performance, driven by disciplined execution and progress in our combination with Mattress Firm. We continue to outperform the market, strengthen our competitive position and deliver value to all of our stakeholders. I will now begin with some highlights from the second quarter, then turn the call over to Bhaskar to review the financial performance in more detail and discuss our 2025 guidance. After that, we’ll open the call up for Q and A.

In the 2025, we are pleased to achieve record net sales and adjusted EBITDA. Net sales were up approximately 53% to 1,900,000,000.0 And adjusted EBITDA was also up approximately 26% to $291,000,000 Adjusted EPS for the quarter was $0.53 We believe that North American betting market was down high single digits in the quarter, and the international markets in aggregate were down mid single digits. The quarter started soft but strengthened as we moved throughout the period. Early third quarter like for like trends are encouraging with indication of potential solid growth. It’s too soon to call a turn in the market we serve, but we are encouraged with what we are experiencing.

We’ll know more after the third quarter. Our first highlight of the quarter was the market outperformance of Mattress Firm. Mattress Firm reported like for like sales, down just 1% from prior period. The team continues to operate with relentless focus on in store execution to drive performance against a muted U. S.

Bedding industry. We’re executing our new merchandising plan and advertising campaign, leveraging the strength of Mattress Firm’s talented people to support our long term growth. We are thrilled with how Mattress Firm and Tempur Sealy teams are implementing our shared vision, which I will discuss in just a moment. This has been the smoothest combination I’ve ever experienced in my forty year career, which only seems fair as it was the longest regulatory approval process imaginable. The second highlight is the progress we’ve made on our synergy initiatives following the acquisition of Mattress Firm.

We’re now approximately six months post closing and have made meaningful progress in driving both sales and cost synergies. Starting with sales. We have refined Mattress Firm’s multi branded merchandising strategy by taking a more holistic approach to product selection and partnering with multiple suppliers who offer high quality products at competitive price points and who support Mattress Firm’s success with their own traffic driving advertising and differentiated product. We’re also pleased with the progress we’ve made on normalizing our brand’s balance of share at Mattress Firm. For 2025, we now expect Tempur Sealy to represent approximately below 50% of Mattress Firm’s total sales, up from our initial expectations of high 40%.

In total, we expect the balance of share shift from mid-40s in 2024 to low-50s in 2025 to result in $40,000,000 benefit to 2025 adjusted EBITDA. As we look forward to 2026, we’re on track to realize the full benefit of the merchandising changes, which we estimate to be approximately $100,000,000 EBITDA opportunity, phased as an incremental $40,000,000 adjusted EBITDA in 2025 and then another $60,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA in 2026. For estimating purposes, mattress firm sales were held flat over the period. The opportunity is expected to grow as The U. S.

Bedding industry recovery and U. S. Mattress firm sales increase. The incremental adjusted EBITDA is derived from enhanced economics from third party suppliers and normalizing our brands’ balance of share. Now turning to cost synergies.

We’re leveraging our expanded scale and vertical integration to drive efficiencies across manufacturing, logistics and sourcing operations. Enhanced visibility into end consumer demand is also enabling us to refine our future product launches and end of life planning. We’re on track to realize at least $100,000,000 in annual run rate net cost synergies, with $15,000,000 expected in 2025 and an additional $50,000,000 in 2026 and finally, an additional $35,000,000 in 2027 with opportunities thereafter. One of the many projects underway is streamlining order fulfillment by utilizing Mattress Firm’s robust home delivery network for Tempe Sealy’s retail sales. In addition to driving cost efficiencies, we expect this initiative to add value by shortening order delivery time, enhancing oversight of delivery process, in turn, improving customer outcomes and satisfaction.

We’ve made significant strides on this initiative to date, and we are on track to begin ramping this program in the fourth quarter. We’re also optimizing our combined marketing spend to drive growth. On a consolidated basis, Omni Group is now the largest advertiser in the betting industry by a factor of two. And we believe we can leverage the combined advertising power to drive demand, benefiting everyone in the betting industry. There are a couple of ways we’re operationalizing this opportunity.

We’ve identified approximately $20,000,000 of marketing efficiencies that we have considered in our cost target. The savings results from leveraging our combined scale to drive sourcing favorability and improving the efficiency of Mattress Firm’s advertising spend by cutting spend in areas of very low returns, such as sports sponsorships and nonworking agency fees. The $20,000,000 of identified marketing synergies does not include the benefit of any enhanced advertising creative, though we continue to believe it’s a compelling opportunity. Additionally, Tempur Sealy and Mattress Firm have historically employed different marketing strategies at times, resulting in mixed messages to the consumer. As the two largest advertisers in the industry, this was suboptimal.

We can now deliver high quality messaging that benefits everyone, the combined Sami Group businesses and the broader U. S. Betting industry. A significant enabler of this higher quality messaging will be Mattress Firm’s launch of its all new advertising campaign in the third quarter. The campaign, called Sleep Easy, is designed to help consumers understand the importance of the right mattress for achieving quality sleep and to persuade the consumer to take the next step on their purchase journey.

It showcases several of the most widely experienced and acutely felt sleep disruptors and then demonstrates how Mattress Firm and specific mattress solutions it offers can help. Testing showed this is the highest performing campaign in Mattress Firm’s recent history across all metrics. We expect synergies to represent a significant enhancement to Somnigroup’s financial and competitive position. Now that we have more in-depth perspective, let’s look back at the Mattress Firm transaction’s pricing. Mattress Firm’s stand alone adjusted EBITDA has ranged from approximately 400,000,000 to $700,000,000 over the last four years, averaging approximately $530,000,000 Using the average adjusted EBITDA and taking into account known synergies just discussed, the purchase price at signing of the definitive agreement was about 6x adjusted EBITDA.

If you look at the purchase price at closing date two years later and accounting for the impact of Sami Group shares appreciation during the period, it was 7x adjusted EBITDA. We believe this transaction is a great example of creating value through M and A. High return on investment, derisking of the business model, significant distribution risk has been mitigated and clearly enhancing our competitive position. Our third highlight for the quarter is that our international business continues to perform very well, reporting robust double digit sales growth and solid margin expansion. This marks nine consecutive quarters of meaningful sales expansion on a constant currency basis for our legacy international business against the backdrop of industry pressure.

Our latest collection of Tempur products continue to be the primary driver of growth, with expanded price points broadening our total addressable market. Further, our improved late stage customization manufacturing process has allowed us to seamlessly tailor products to individual markets, channels and customers. We’re supporting the new international collection with expanded distribution with broad based investments and advertising aimed at building brand awareness and driving conversion. To date, these investments have increased our share of voice in targeted international markets, and we’re winning share of consumer mattress searches versus key competitors in our top five markets. Our U.

K.-based bedding retailer, Dreams, also delivered a strong quarter. They continue to execute on initiatives to provide superior product quality and consistency of service, resulting in continued market outperformance and record customer satisfaction. Our fourth highlight was Tempur Sealy North America’s market performance. Like for like net sales for our Tempur Sealy North American business unit were down 2% in the quarter, excluding mid single digit headwind from foreclosed distribution discussed last quarter. Although the North American business was down slightly, we believe it continued to outperform the market, which we believe was down high single digits.

Our North American performance was driven by the successful launch of our all new Posturepedic collection, the largest bedding launch in industry history. Remember, Sealy is the number one brand in The U. S. And the world. The team, our suppliers, our third party retailers did a great job on a very heavy lift.

While the launch did take a bit longer to execute than planned, which impacted the first part of the quarter, we exited the second quarter with solid momentum. The launch targets the mid entry level segment. This updated collection is the culmination of a multiyear research and development effort. At the core of our innovation is a new patent pending coil system engineered to deliver enhanced support. In addition to technology advances, we designed the collection to streamline merchandising, a clear value proposition and a more compelling step up story to better guide consumers through the product lineup.

Retailer feedback on the new product is highly positive, and consumers’ initial reviews are strong with an average of 4.9 out of five stars across the assortment. We’re supporting the launch with a new advertising campaign that began over the Memorial Day holiday. This top of funnel initiative is crafted to reinforce the unique value of Sealy Posturepedic and generate excitement around the Sealy brand. The campaign is complemented by enhanced in store experience between updated retail displays and new sales training. Preliminary results of the campaign are strong as we believe Selic has more than doubled its share of voice in the market since the launch.

In addition to our increased investment, this expansion is also supported by our retailers redirecting dollars from nonbranded advertising to Sealy, underscoring the trust retailers have in the new product. Our final highlight is the expanded relationship with Full Power announced this morning. Full Power’s sleep tracker AI technology powers the successful Tempur Ergo SmartBase, which provides personalized sleep analytics and coaching. As part of the expanded collaboration, Sealy is making a $25,000,000 equity investment in Full Power to acquire approximately 15.6 ownership stake. In addition, Emperor Sealy and Full Power have signed a multiyear extension through 2036 for Emperor Sealy’s exclusive rights to embed Sleep Tracker technology in our products.

This strategic investment reflects our deep commitment to innovation and the future of bedding consumer experience. Extending our relationship with full power, we are not only enhancing our ability to serve consumers through smarter, more tailored solutions, we’re reinforcing our position at the forefront of betting innovation. With that, I’ll turn the call over to Bhaskar. Thank you, Scott. In the 2025, consolidated sales were $1,900,000,000 and adjusted earnings per share was $0.53 There are approximately $47,000,000 of pro form a adjustments in the quarter, all of which are consistent with the terms of our senior credit facility.

These adjustments are primarily related to costs incurred in connection with the divestiture and the combination with Mattress Firm. As a reminder, we have aligned accounting for store occupancy costs across Sami Group, which resulted in Tempur Sealy reclassifying their store occupancy costs from operating expenses to cost of goods sold. We have adjusted prior year Tempur Sealy financial information included in today’s earnings release to reflect this change for ease of comparability. I will be highlighting like for like comparisons to normalize for these items in our commentary. Now turning to mattressfirmresults.net sales through Mattress Firm were $949,000,000 in the second quarter.

On a like for like basis, Mattress Firm sales declined 1% over prior year. Mattress Firm adjusted gross margin was 35.7%, and adjusted operating margin was 7.8%. Turning to Tempur Sealy North American result. Like for like sales through the wholesale channel declined approximately 2% in the second quarter, normalizing for the previously discussed foreclosed distribution or 7% without this normalization. Like for like net sales to the direct channel declined 4% in the quarter, which excludes the impact of the divestiture.

North American adjusted gross margin increased approximately 1,500 basis points to 55%, primarily driven by the elimination of the intercompany sales to Mattress Firm from Tempur Sealy. On a like for like basis, North American adjusted gross margins declined 130 basis points versus the prior year, primarily driven by deleverage in floor models, partially offset by operational efficiencies. North American adjusted operating margin improved four thirty basis points to 22.7%, primarily driven by Mattress Firm intercompany sales elimination. On a like for like basis, North American adjusted operating margins declined two forty basis points versus the prior year, primarily driven by the decline in gross margin and investment in advertising to support our Sealy launch. Now turning to Tempur Sealy International results.

International net sales grew a robust 15% on a reported basis and 10% on a constant currency basis. Our international gross margin was consistent year over year at 48.2%. Our international operating margin improved 110 basis points to 13.6%, primarily driven by operating expense leverage. Last quarter, our Tempur Sealy North American operations announced a 2% price increase to annualized sales to offset the residual expected tariff impact. We believe this price increase is generally lower than what others in the industry have passed through to their customers.

This price increase was implemented in July and is successfully offsetting the targeted cost increases. Now moving on to the balance sheet and cash flow item. At the end of the second quarter, consolidated debt less cash was $4,900,000,000 and our leverage ratio under our credit facility was 3.6 times. We expect our leverage to be approximately 3.35 times exiting 2025 and to return to our target leverage range of two to three times in 2026 and for share repurchases to be minimal till then. In the second quarter, we successfully repriced our term loan B and paid $100,000,000 of outstanding principal balance.

We expect the repricing and prepayment will produce annualized cash interest savings of approximately $5,000,000 with an additional $5,000,000 of savings available once the leverage is below three times. In the second quarter, we generated operating cash of $186,000,000 Before turning to full year guidance, I want to remind you of a few items. Our guidance considers the elimination of intercompany sales between Mattress Firm and Tempur Sealy, which we expect to represent approximately 19% of global Tempur Sealy twenty twenty five sales. Intercompany sales elimination in accordance with GAAP will reduce Tempur Sealy sale but will be margin accretive and neutral to dollars of operating profit. Consistent with the prior quarter, our guidance also reflects the divestiture of Tempur Sealy’s with Outfitters retail business as well as seventy three Mattress Firm stores in May 2025.

Now turning to 2025 guidance. We have raised our adjusted earnings per share to now be in the range of $2.4 to $2.7 This guidance range contemplates a sales midpoint of approximately $7,400,000,000 after intercompany elimination. This revision maintains our previous outlook for the betting industry to be down mid single digits versus the prior year, with trends improving slightly in the second half twenty twenty five. Our guidance also reflects like for like Tempur Sealy sales to be down low single digits and reported sales to be impacted by the intercompany elimination I referenced a moment ago. Tempur Sealy North America sales declining mid single digits on a like for like basis, which includes our continued market outperformance against industry pressures and a mid single digit headwind from the foreclosed distribution our international business growing mid single digits and high single digits on a constant currency basis, which include the continued momentum of our omnichannel expansion strategy and our like for like mattress firm sales declining low single digits, supported by in store initiatives to grow AOV and conversion and reflecting fee industry pressures.

We also expect gross margins to be slightly above 44%. Our outlook also contemplates our updated assumption for Tempur Sealy to be low 50 percentage of Mattress Firm’s total sales, up from our initial expectation of a high forties percentage. This represents $40,000,000 of EBITDA benefit to 2025 compared to 2024 or a $20,000,000 incremental EBITDA benefit to 2025 relative to prior expectations and $700,000,000 of advertising investment, all of which we expect to result in adjusted EBITDA of approximately $1,270,000,000 at the midpoint. Regarding capital expenditures, we expect 2025 CapEx of approximately $200,000,000 including $25,000,000 of investment to refresh Mattress Firm stores. Over the next three years, we expect to invest a cumulative $150,000,000 to refresh Mattress Firm stores.

Lastly, I would like to flag a few modeling items. For the full year 2025, we expect G and A of approximately $295,000,000 to $300,000,000 interest expense of approximately $260,000,000 to $265,000,000 on a tax rate of 25% with a diluted share count of $210,000,000 shares. With that, I’ll turn the call back over to Scott. Thank you. Nice job, Bhaskar.

In closing, this quarter’s performance reflects our successful combination of Mattress Firm and our resilience in a challenging global environment. We are continuing to build a strong company that provides products that improve people’s lives, and we’re enthusiastic about our future. We strengthened our competitive position across all our domestic and international business units by leveraging the core strength of Salmon Group. Our talented people, powerful brands, expansive distribution network, operational agility, robust manufacturing capabilities and a culture of doing the right thing even when it’s hard. That ends our prepared remarks.

Operator, you may open the call up for questions.

Conference Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer And your first question comes from the line of Susan Maklari from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead.

Susan Maklari, Analyst, Goldman Sachs: Morning, everyone.

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: Good morning, Susan.

Susan Maklari, Analyst, Goldman Sachs: Good morning, Scott. My question is on the demand side. In your prepared remarks, you said that the quarter started soft and improved as we moved through the last couple of months and you’re feeling more encouraged going into the third quarter. Can you talk about what has changed in the last couple of months that you think is making the consumer feel a bit better? And what you’re watching for from here out to determine how we’ve how the industry and your sales come together?

And perhaps is there any upside to your expectations that the industry will be down mid single digits this year?

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: Thank you, Susan. First of all, I think you can go to consumer confidence. If you remember in the first quarter conference call, we pointed and talked quite a bit about the weakness in consumer confidence and the correlation to consumer confidence in our business as we think about it. And consumer confidence has stabilized and we’ll call it uptick some. So I think the first thing I’d point out is the lack of new surprises or something unusual coming out of Washington.

So consumer kind of stabilized and and slightly better. I think the next thing I would probably lean on, and I can’t be precise because I don’t have I don’t know exactly the mix of it, would be the Sealy Posturepedic launch. I mean, we’ve called it out, you know, for quite a while, size of this launch, the largest launch in betting history. It was a huge undertaking both by the company, by retailers, by some great suppliers. It took a little bit longer to get through the system as retailers had to sell off their floor models and their back stock as we don’t sweep the floor.

So that that’s a difficult lift for the retailers, and they did a great job. And then we launched, the first time, national advertising on on Sealy during the quarter, and you could see it in the in the Sealy numbers. It started a little slower in the quarter than we expected as to do a log in to get the product placed. But, boy, where it was placed, strong velocity in the SKUs, and that momentum continued to run into the third quarter as we talked about in our prepared remarks. So I guess, in short, probably just general, no surprises, nothing weird from a consumer confidence standpoint, a little bit of a recovery, then good product innovation and advertising.

You know, just to add on to that is at the midpoint, what we’re assuming is is that, call it, low or mid single digit from an industry decline standpoint, when you translate that into what it means for Tempur Sealy, the way I think about it is EPS, nice growth in the back half, call it, mid to high single digits. And what I would expect is more of that growth from an EPS coming in the fourth quarter versus the third quarter, and that’s nothing more than historic seasonality of Mattress Firm. A little bit more advertising in the third versus the fourth. So what does all that mean? Think about EPS in the third quarter in the mid-80s with the balance coming in the fourth quarter to get to that midpoint of $2.55

Conference Operator: Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Bobby Griffin from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Bobby Griffin, Analyst, Raymond James: Good morning, Bobby. Thanks for taking my question. I guess the first question is on the revenue synergies that you guys talked about. If I kind of do the quick math, think it implies roughly about a 15% contribution margin on the incremental revenue. So can you unpack that a little bit?

And a, is that accurate? And then b, what are the assumptions that you guys think the incremental revenue comes through? Is it Tempur Pedic, Stearns and Foster, Sealy, or OEM business just to help us tune up our models a little?

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: Sure. When I think about the the the flow through, let’s start from the revenue side initially. So our previous previous expectation for balance of share was high forties, call that 49. I’m sitting here today. We’re in and around low fifties, call that a few percentage points increase.

When you do the math and reverse reverse engineer it, you’re going to get a flow through of somewhere between 30% to 35%. So getting to that incremental $20,000,000 of EBITDA. So just triangulating on what that is versus our midpoint where we were before in EBITDA versus where we are, the, it’s the faster than accepted or expected realization from those revenue synergies is resulting in our in our revenue beat. As it relates to where it’s gonna come from I mean, the flow the flow through is a little bit little bit challenged because you’re you’re on the OEM side. Mhmm.

Obviously, as as you know, Bobby, it’s it’s it’s not very very strong on the Tempur Sealy business unit. But a lot of that flow through is going to come through Tempur, which is strong at the retailer side of the equation and at the manufacturing side. So it’s pretty much a blend.

Conference Operator: Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Dan Silverstein from UBS. Please go ahead.

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: Good morning, and thanks for taking our question. Maybe just to dovetail on Bobby’s question. So if you’re adding the sales synergies and now it sounds like $20,000,000 of potential marketing synergies, why wouldn’t this support a higher long term earnings target relative to the $4.85 goal. Just wondering if anything’s changed in terms of other drivers of the

Dan Silverstein, Analyst, UBS: business or cadence of how you get there? Thank you.

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: Sure. Sure. Great question. I mean, let’s step back. I mean, the three year perspective we put in the market is a perspective that has an embedded estimation of what the industry could grow at based on historical term.

We don’t really think of the quote as guidance. It’s more of computation of the business model works, but it’s reasonable with those assumptions. And our thinking is we probably would update that annually with all of the changes that go on in the world. There’s no question that from a company specific standpoint in the performance of the combination of the two companies is performing ahead of our expectations from a revenue synergy standpoint in those economics. You see a little bit in the second quarter.

You’ll see a lot more of it in the third quarter. And it’s very logical to assume that that would be positive to perspective that we put out on the long term performance of the company. At the same time, the underlying industry, when that perspective was put out, we were expecting the industry to probably turn around a little faster than it has the last couple of quarters. And so that’s probably a little bit of a headwind. And there’s other changes here and there.

I don’t we haven’t tried to take the changes each quarter and then apply it to the perspective that we put out there. We’re going to update that at the end of the year, and there will be puts and takes on that. But there’s no question that the revenue synergies would be net additive to the perspective when we put it out. But again, there’s also, you know, there’s some other stuff going the other way. But we’ll we’ll update that at at the end of the year.

Conference Operator: And your next question comes from the line of Brad Thomas from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Brad Thomas, Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets: Good morning and congrats on a good start here with Mattress Firm. My question was around your relationship with non Mattress Firm retailers. And Scott, I was hoping you could just talk a little bit more about what you’re seeing in terms of sales trends within your different brands, how slot count is holding up, and just more broadly, you know, that relationship with the nonmattress firm retailers, as you all now own, this number one retailer in the segment.

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: Sure. Our our net slot, in the second quarter with third party retailers is net up from from the same period last year. If I look at the top five retailers and I look at our business with with the top five retailers, it has grown and has increased quicker or yeah. I guess quicker is a good word than the market share. So I would say that those two stats would be the first things that I would I would lean into.

I would say that the Sealy product has has done very, well with third party retailers and continues to be business as normal. And normal is with great product, advertising, sales support to logistics, where we help third party retailers drive their business, which is our business plan, we’re getting great reception.

Conference Operator: And your next question comes from the line of Peter Keith from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Dan Silverstein, Analyst, UBS: Hi. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thinking about the sales mix between Tempur and Sealy, I’m wondering if you are experiencing or could start to experience some mix pressure on your gross margin if, the strength in Sealy would push Sealy sales growth ahead of Tempur Pedic growth. And and on a related note, one thing we are hearing in retail channel is that the the high end of the Sealy line is so good that it’s actually cannibalizing the low end of the the Tempur line.

So maybe you could comment on that potential as well.

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: Sure. I mean, first of the Tempur brand was the strongest brand in the second quarter, just to kind of put it to kind of put it the base. On a go forward basis, it was what your question is. I think it is possible that the Sealy brand will grow faster than the Tempur brand for a couple of quarters, and it would be a slight headwind to the gross margin. That in and of itself, Incremental that is EBITDA, but the margin percentage.

Correct. You might get a little bit of pressure. One just has to be mindful when you’re thinking about gross profit is that foreclosed distribution. So when you put all that together, the current expectation is is that mix will be favorable. However, in and of itself, if Sealy versus Tempur, there would be a little bit of a headwind.

Yeah. In fact, I I probably would expect probably Sealy will grow faster than Tempur for a couple of quarters. Yes. I mean, it’s doing very well. On the high end of Sealy, as you probably know, we work very hard to position the Sealy Popsurpedic brand, we’ll call it, up a notch from from a positioning standpoint, which is good for us, good for the retailers, good for the customer.

I don’t think it’s I don’t think it’s cannibalizing anything from Tempur. Those are really unique positions and unique fields in those products. I do think that there is some cannibalization going on between Stearns and Foster and Sealy Posturepedic. And that’s by design. It was planned.

But there is some because both of those are spring beds. And until we get the new ceiling ceiling I don’t know, the sterns line out, there’s a little more overlap there than it’s probably need long term. But when the new sterns line comes up, we’ll probably move it up a little bit and fix that problem. But net net, that was a planned cannibalization. And again, it’s what I would consider to be minor, and Tempur is doing well.

Conference Operator: Thank you. And your last question comes from the line of Rafe Jadrzyk from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Lauren Aveyt, Investor Relations, Somni Group: Hi. You have Victoria Dyskerov on for Rafe Jadrzyk. Thanks for taking our question. My question is more on the tariff side on your investor presentation. What are some of the components of your exposure, whether that’s more steel versus fabric?

And what are some of the mitigating actions you’re taking? Thank you.

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: Sure. Good question. What I would say is largely speaking versus where we were in the first quarter, our tariff thinking really hasn’t changed. There has been some moving pieces as it relates to the government, but how it impacts the SGI group, not a big driver. When I double tap into that and think about where it’s coming from, again, with the first quarter, yes, the steel aluminum, how that impacts the Tempur Sealy or the SGI family is associated with adjustables primarily.

So when I think about the big items, it’s it’s really the steel, specifically the adjustables, a little bit on the textiles because there’s a big drop off when you when you think about the Pareto of of where this exposure is coming from. However, the next item below that would be associated with the textile, and that’s principally a USMCA issue between whatever NAFTA is called out. I I think in just in summary, I mean, not just Tempur Sealy, STI, Mattress Firm. Mhmm. The whole industry has been able to, one, kinda move some supplier stuff around, find some cost savings, and then pass on just a small amount of price increase, to pretty well mitigate the known tariff exposure we’re working with with today.

Conference Operator: Thank you. And we now have additional questions in the queue. Your next question comes from the line of Brad Thomas from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Brad Thomas, Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets: Hi. Thanks for taking a follow-up. Scott, I wanted to ask about product innovation and, you know, particularly with the news of the partnership and investments in full power and, again, now being even more vertically integrated in The US. How should we think about the pace of innovation and how you all may innovate differently, if at all,

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: from a product standpoint? Thank you for the question. You’re right. One of the advantages of combining with Mattress Firm is to align on technology for future innovation. Mattress Firm was going down a different path from a technology standpoint and had a different technology strategy.

And then, of course, we have our technology strategy leveraging full power. And quite frankly, the thought of one day in the future going to Mattress Firm or any other retailer and the RSA explaining to you, here’s one app if you buy this bed. Here’s another app if you buy that bed, and trying to explain multiple technologies, to me sounded like a disaster on the floor. And so the combination allows us to streamline under one technology platform. That will accelerate innovation and also de risk the innovation because we have known distribution.

That that so when we develop something, we know we have a home for it, and it’s a and it’s a a home that’s large enough to drive that technology to make the economics work. So I I do think the combination of Mattress Firm was an unlock on what I’ll call future innovation that will be more complex and change your sleeping experience.

Conference Operator: Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Bobby Griffin from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Bobby Griffin, Analyst, Raymond James: Hey, guys. Hey, Bhaskar, just wanted one quick model follow-up on one of your comments. The down 2% wholesale like for like that you gave us ex the distribution change for an OEM customer, does that also neutralize for all the moving parts with floor samples? I know the timing this year in 2Q was different than the timing last year when you guys shipped different products, especially given the size of the Sealy launch. So just trying to get a clean way that you and the team are looking at it.

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: No. It it does not. When you think about the floor waddle headwind in the second quarter, think about on the on the EBITDA line, around eight And on top line, think about $15,000,000

Conference Operator: Thank you. And that answered question and answer session. I will now hand the call back to Mr. Scott Thompson for any closing remarks.

Scott Thompson, Chairman, President and CEO, Somni Group: Thank you, operator. To our over 20,000 associates around the world, thank you for what you do every day to make the company successful. To our retail partners, thank you for your outstanding representation of our brands, to our shareholders and lenders. Thank you for your confidence in the company’s leadership and its Board of Directors. This ends our call today, operator.

Thank you.

Conference Operator: This concludes today’s call. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect.

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