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On Tuesday, 18 November 2025, DXC Technology (NYSE:DXC) presented its strategic vision at the J.P. Morgan 2025 Ultimate Services Investor Conference. The company highlighted its focus on AI-driven solutions and operational improvements, aiming to stabilize and grow revenue. However, challenges remain as DXC navigates a competitive landscape and seeks to reverse its revenue decline.
Key Takeaways
- DXC is implementing a "two-track" approach, focusing on legacy services and AI-native offerings.
- The company aims for AI-driven initiatives to contribute 10% of revenue within 36 months.
- DXC is enhancing customer satisfaction with record-low outages and high NPS scores.
- Financial goals include achieving flat revenue in two quarters and then pursuing growth.
- The company is integrating AI internally to drive cost savings and efficiency.
Financial Results
- Revenue Goals:
- Targeting flat revenue in the next two quarters, followed by positive growth.
- Aiming for 10% of revenue from AI-driven initiatives within 36 months.
- Margins:
- Investments in AI and content development are part of the company's ongoing expenses.
- Expect margin improvements as revenue stabilizes through efficiency gains.
- Bookings:
- Increasing bookings coverage to 80% of the 12-month rolling period, up from 70%.
- Spending Philosophy:
- Focused spending across all segments, with insurance being the most mature.
Operational Updates
- Core Ignite:
- Expanding the Hogan banking platform for next-gen services without infrastructure changes.
- Deployment expected at the beginning of the new year.
- SAP and ServiceNow Practices:
- Plans to double the SAP practice through better utilization and sales coordination.
- Increasing sales efforts in ServiceNow without resource constraints.
- Customer Satisfaction:
- Achieved record-low outages and high NPS scores.
- Internal AI Integration:
- AI is being used across all functions to enhance productivity and reduce costs.
- Sales Enablement and OASIS:
- Launched a sales enablement team and a new service delivery platform.
- Brand Marketing:
- Investing in branding to emphasize innovation and business value.
Future Outlook
- AI Strategy:
- AI expected to impact all job functions significantly by 2026.
- Ongoing development of AI tools and solutions.
- Expansion Focus:
- Replicating success for new customers and focusing on net new logos.
- Acquisition Strategy:
- Open to strategic acquisitions when systems are ready to integrate new assets.
- KPIs:
- Tracking net new logo growth and success in AI-driven opportunities.
Q&A Highlights
- Fast Track Revenue Expectations:
- Revenue expected to increase next year through AI initiatives.
- Pricing Models:
- Testing value-based pricing for cloud-based products.
- Restructuring:
- Restructuring activities to remain stable over the next 18 months.
For a deeper dive into DXC Technology's strategic plans and financial outlook, please refer to the full transcript below.
Full transcript - J.P. Morgan 2025 Ultimate Services Investor Conference:
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Okay, I think we can get started, right?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Terrific.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Terrific, yeah. Yeah, my name is Tin Jun Huang. I follow the payments and IT services sector at JPMorgan. And one of the companies I've covered over 20 years, DXC, through a lot of different forms and companies coming together. So excited to have the DXC team with us. Rob Del Bene, CFO, Raul Fernandez, President and CEO. Thank you both for being here. Of course, wanted to pick Raul's brain on a lot of the things that are happening in the world. I always have to lead with this, right? Raul, you, from touching me in different ways personally, thinking about you're a vice chair, co-owner of the monumental sports and entertainment world, which my childhood team, the Wizards of Bullets. I always have to call that out. You also founded Proxicom, Systems Integrator.
That was being an e-com when I was working on in banking. That was a client. You guys took that public and it was acquired by Dimension Data. Right around the time I transitioned to IT services. In my head, I always think about that. That is why it is so important, I think, to be able to pick your brain. Because you have been through a lot, including a lot of different boards that you have been on, including DXC back in 2020. You became the CEO in what, February 2024 is what I wrote down?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: December.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Yeah. You've seen a lot. I didn't want to start with that, if that's OK. Just thinking about state of the union or how you see the world. I know you're making a lot of changes at DXC. I want to go through that. Anything to start with?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Yeah, I think, look, if I step back and I look at 2025, I really do think people ask me, like, what period are we in? Are we in the first half, the second half of the AI game? I think we were still in training camp. 2026 is the beginning of the real game. Everything before 2026, the maturity of the tools, the number of tools, the subgranular nature of tools, and the quality before, say, the middle of this year, I think an aha moment for me was Sora 2 and all the multimodal stuff that it could do that literally leapfrogged something that a week ago was like number one. The intensity, the speed, and frankly, the massive amounts of money that are going in here.
I think one of the coolest things for us as enterprises and for entrepreneurs is the compute that you pay for, for whatever it is that you're asking for, a business plan, a code spec, the code, the code testing, a website to actually sell that product. You are not paying nearly what it costs. There is this massive subsidy going on where someone else is flipping the bill for making dreams come true. I think the total cost of ownership for being a risk taker has come down. The speed at which you can turn an idea into something and then see if that something sells has come down and sped up.
We are trying to take advantage of all those things internally as we find pockets of great legacy work that we have and will continue to have and find opportunities to use legacy as leverage to build something new. That is how we came up with kind of a two-track way of managing our business. Core track is the base business. Of course, it has a lot of AI in it every day. They are not AI native products. They are not AI highly infused products. In the historical core business, it was more rates times hours or fixed price type of work. These are going to be SaaS-like recurring or reoccurring revenue streams. We have organized ourselves differently. The governance structure for the fast track is very different than the core track. Each offering has picked with a very high bar.
We're using this exponential framework, which is how we help our clients go from idea to massive scale in AI. We've used it internally. Now we're using it in client engagements. It's helping position us differently than our competitors. In picking what goes in the fast track, we're making a bunch of bets that we think over the next 36 months will lead to about 10% of our revenue. I still feel great about the portfolio. Like I said before, they're not all going to make it. If a subset makes it, it's a great foundation. As we learn from that subset, we'll stack up the next set of offerings to bring out.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: OK, no, that's a great intro. Before we dig into that, I have to ask. You sort of mentioned AI in 2026 and this overbuild. Is there any analogy or think back to Proxicom and e-com and how fiber was such a big CapEx and investment? Obviously, that evolved, but it opened up e-com and a lot of these great fun companies that piggybacked off of that shift. Is there anything to learn from that?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Yeah, I think very similar dynamics where the massive infrastructure players were underwriting other things at that time. Go back to the beginning of the internet. My company got paid by MCI to go build a secure marketplace, the first secure e-com space on the internet. They were not paying us to build it because there was a presumed value in that digital presence. They were paying us because they wanted the pipes to keep filling up. They wanted the pipes to continue to have more demand from these corporate clients. When these cycles kick off, there are weird economics, weird dynamics. We are living through that right now. The bottom line is that the speed and pace at which innovation happens today is at an unprecedented level, literally days. That is shocking in a couple of ways.
It's shocking to an employee base where almost every job will get impacted. My job as a CEO will get impacted. I actually had my script that I wrote. I used a digital twin voice AI product to record it. My script was like one of the first AI products to do a public company earnings announcement. Now I'm taking it a step further. I've got a small model that I've built that has everything that I've done in the quarter, new products released, new assignments that I can reference. I'm going to see if it can write a better script than we can write. I mean, it does change every job, whether you're someone who's coding, whether you're someone who's building a business plan, whether you're someone that's reviewing a contract in law, 1,000% impacting on every category.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Fun. You introduced fast track. Let's get into some of the changes that you've made. I think you introed it really, really well. I always like learning through examples. I think Core Ignite was the one that you guys specifically called out. I think for those that are less familiar, right, Hogan has been around for a bit. A lot of companies we cover are built on Hogan. You described it as an extension of Hogan and not a replacement. Can you just elaborate on that for the lesson?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Yeah, just so that people realize this was an incredibly powerful piece of software that DXC owned, I think, back in the 1980s. Currently, one in two US households have deposit accounts that rely on Hogan. Two in three US card transactions are processed on Hogan. There are 300 million customer deposit accounts on Hogan. Six out of the top 10 US banks are on Hogan. We have 275 million cards processed daily for 475 banks. An incredible existing legacy old system where adding new products or features, if you're a financial institution and you want to get into the business of issuing stable coins, that's hard to do on a really old infrastructure. My guys came in, brought guys in from Pfizer and other places.
They said, look, we have a unique advantage here because we have technical hooks into the core Hogan product. We can expose things through APIs that no one else can do. Let's build a thin layer that allows banks to not have to change any of the infrastructure, but to add incremental next-gen services and be able to do that kind of on a menu-based system. Looked at an existing base of business, had been ignored, had not been upgraded. In many cases, the banks already have derivative right uses on IP. We still get paid some maintenance. We said, let's build on top of it. Again, the cost of building this light layer is literally not in the tens of millions. It's in the single-digit millions.
The ability to get the right team that can move fast, that can write the product spec, that can test that with existing customers, that can get a pilot out on MVP really fast, and then can scale it, that's part of the power of bringing in kind of new talent on top of legacy work that we're doing for existing customers.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: How long did it take to develop Core Ignite into what it is today and ready for deployment?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: March to summer in terms of tightening up the offering and what it looks like from a product standpoint, summer to now and build. In the beginning of the new year, we should be able to deploy the first versions.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: OK, yeah. We'll be able to track some of the performance there and attach on that. How replicable? You have some other assets. I know insurance, you've got a big amount of share as a systems of record there. What other Core Ignites are being developed?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: I think that's one where we have multi-layers of kind of proprietary hooks. But all of us, whether it's DXC or any of our competitors, we sit in the middle of every workflow. We either help the workflow that exists today or we're modernizing an existing workflow. Workflow is the key to the AI future. And understanding how it works today and then understanding the power of the tools that are available to you and how you can do an AI-led but agentic team-like solution and then ultimately a full agentic solution, it all comes down to knowing two things, workload and data. And we are super close to both. And so are our competitors. So I think we are winners in the long term in the AI world. Someone has to do this work.
An upstart that maybe has younger, fresher talent, they do not have the advantage I have, which is understanding how the existing customer does what they do. That is a huge moat for us if you can add new technology to it. In the past, we were known as a safe pair of hands for old technology. Today, because we have these new innovative super AI-centric lightweight solutions going to market, people are going, oh, that is not the same DXC. That is also coming around with a whole new branding and marketing and positioning and color palette and all that sort of stuff. It has been kind of a build-up of content and then the look and feel and then the positioning. Then, frankly, the people.
At the end of the day, it's having new people to energize the core base and the core business and really put us on an offensive front to create more pipeline opportunities. At the end of the day, our biggest issue is just turning around the revenue decline. The easiest way to do that is to go after more things that are qualified. For those more things that are qualified to convert into a pipeline that gives you positive growth. I mean, we're getting to flat as our first goal, but then positive growth.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Right. So you own the core. You understand the workflows, which is really hard, I think, for the agents and others to really understand. We've seen some consolidation for companies to solve that. Then you're building these extensions to bring it into something that's more.
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: We're using them as customer zero first here. We're trying everything first. We're then documenting that. We're sharing best practices. For me, it's a great opener if I'm talking to a CEO. Let me tell you what I did with my SOC and an agentic solution that got me 67% better accuracy, better throughput in terms of speed, and allowed me to redeploy the human capital into other places. Lowering of cost.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Thinking for both you or for either of you, maybe Rob for you as well, just thinking about the incremental margins to get in 36 months, I think you said 10% of revenue is what you're aiming for. How about funding that? I mean, can you do it at a reasonable incremental margin? I would imagine the model is actually accretive, but you still have to fund it to get there. How does that work out?
Rob Del Bene, CFO, DXC: Yeah, so I'll take that one. I'll start. The products have been in development for some time. Mentioned Core Ignite, but they're in the GIS business. We have our new service delivery platform we're calling OASIS. That could be considered a fast track initiative. We've got AI capability that's been built and will continue to be built in the insurance business. In our run rate, we have a lot of the investment spending already. Incrementally, there may be more incrementally, but it's not going to be outsized or material in terms of free cash flow impact. It's in the base. We'll continue to build on that. As we gain traction in the market, it should be accretive.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: OK, good. Anything I'm missing on fast track or should we?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: No, no. I think you've got to work on the fast track, but then the core part of the business has to operate better. A good example, we have the fifth largest. We're the fifth largest in terms of certified SAP engineers. And we are not the fifth in terms of revenue generated by said number of engineers. It is very simple, we have to get the rates up. We've got to get the fixed price terms up. We've got to get deal flow up. We have to be better coordinated with SAP, which we are being from top to bottom. We have to have integrated account plans. We have to have targeted key opportunities. Again, basics of running a practice within a professional services technology company, Ramnath coming from Accenture, looking at it and going, oh my gosh, we are just so subscale.
It's not rocket science in fixing that. It's about right people, right pricing, right new targeting of opportunities. There's clearly demand for it in the marketplace. We just have to go after the right jobs.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Yeah, I think you said on the call that you were going to double your SAP practice.
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: That's our business plan, yeah.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: It sounds like you answered it a little bit there, but that was on my question list. Is it really just getting utilization up and getting the rate cards up?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: No, it's more work. There's definitely more work. And us, as a percentage of what we do versus our competitors, we're way underrepresented.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: You have the certified staff to do it. That's the key, right?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Yep, that's the key.
Rob Del Bene, CFO, DXC: More work meaning more sales.
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: More sales, more opportunities.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: You have the resources to do it.
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: I totally have the resources.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: You mentioned Ramnath. I think that was on my question list, leading the CES business, coming in from Accenture. We heard from Accenture earlier. What else can you share? What kind of initiatives is he putting into place? How quickly can we see some of the results, whether it be in CES or broadly speaking?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: He's got a really great appreciation of technical talent. When he looks at our engineering talent, which has got an incredible pedigree and also a great referenceability, heavy in automotive, but also in other parts, in other industries, really key players. That's, again, an offering that he thinks, based on his experience in other places, should be at a much higher level of appreciation. When I mean appreciation, meaning gross margin, net margin. Again, it's positioning and targeting the right skills. It's also using some of the new positioning. We invested in a brand new team that came in and looked at the competitive space from a brand marketing value proposition and created now this new offering in terms of how we're coming across, both from the brand standpoint, from the look and feel standpoint, and definitely from the content standpoint.
Making technical things that are complex, understandable, and referenceable is so key to standing out in our business because there's a ton of technical jargon. If you can mix in, I can do the technical, plus I know here's the business value, and I happen to know your industry really well. It is a great combination.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Gotcha. OK, so thinking about Ramnath coming in and some of the changes, it sounds like I know you have a big SAP practice. You mentioned that. You have a big ServiceNow practice. It doesn't sound like it's a resources issue. It's really.
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: More shots on goal.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: More shots on goal, including putting more sales effort and things like that.
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: We launched a sales enablement team that is specifically built to help them in the last mile, right? The last mile of the pitch, the last mile of the positioning, any other content, any other cross-referencing we should be doing. Again, a function that was not there before, and we put it in place with our Chief Revenue Officer.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Is that a last one? Is that a quick fix?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: No, it's a fix over time.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: How do you value, how should we gauge or hold you accountable for the progress?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: I think ultimately, as this stuff is coming into market, which again, it's been the last quarter or so that's come into market, the size of our pipeline should grow. It is growing. Ultimately, the conversion rate, which will be a public book-to-bill number, those things should trickle.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Yeah. You talked about, just to get into those numbers a little bit, you talked about visibility improving and getting into the third quarter. And you're looking for bookings to get better. Quality of the signings and things like that? Anything interesting to share?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Yeah, I think so let's break it down in a couple of categories.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Please.
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: With renewals, key to renewals is a happy customer. Our outages and reported delays and SLA breaches, all-time record low. Our NPS scores, which are not a great measure, all-time high. We are getting invited ahead of time for recompetes. We have to keep the business we have and recompete the business we have. The key is bringing new ideas and new solutions and new parts of the company so that the recompete can be solid and you can win it. You also open the door to having new things that we can build and deploy and share. It is kind of a combination of items that will lead to a visible tipping. On any given day on the 12-month rolling period, there is 70% of that 12 month that is booked. I need to get a bunch more, so that probably gets closer to 80%.
We can mathematically do a, hey, we can see flat in two quarters from now. It all starts with more opportunities, the ones that you have already plus net new ones.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: What about the new logo side?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Carnival Cruise Line is a great example. Super competitive. We won it. We've now deployed. We're supporting them. We've transitioned from the other partner that was there before. It's a great story, not just in technical skills to win what we won and to talk about what we do every day for the hundreds of thousands of passengers and crew that sail every day. Now, OK, what's the game plan to go to Norwegian, to Royal Caribbean, to Company X, Company Y? Getting that proactive muscle in place, getting those people in place, getting the content in place, actually going off and doing it, all that's work in progress. All those things, once you do them once and twice and they show success, they're highly replicable.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Gotcha. How about on the, I should have probably asked it earlier, just on the macro front, anything to share there? There's always questions around visibility and discretionary versus non-discretionary spending. You've also said to us in the past that the self-help initiatives are more important than the cycle or the macro for you. Do you feel differently now?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Yeah, no, I still think we can generate more opportunities to compensate for any sort of softness within a segment, right? Like consumer products, people that are highly dependent on consumer products and services that are maybe being pinched by tariffs or inflation or cost, and it's having an impact on the customer base. That will lead to some pausing. The antidote to that is to have just a more massive book that you're going after that you can afford to have these pauses, which we're going to run into.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: OK. Nine minutes left. Any questions from investors? Happy to take them. Otherwise, I can keep going. I'm almost halfway done with my questions. Yeah, Brendan, you want to ask one?
Thank you so much, both of you, for going through all this stuff. I'll ask one on the financials, on perhaps the margins, I guess. Could you talk through the spending philosophy? I guess you could call it operating expense allocation philosophy as it relates to the business lines. Where is a lot of this fast track spending located, and how can we expect to see the margins unfold in the various different business lines? Thanks.
Rob Del Bene, CFO, DXC: Yeah, the new content development is across all three of the business segments. It has been in the run rate, probably the longest in the insurance segment because we've been developing new product there at a robust pace since my entire tenure here. It picked up about a year ago in GIS. Now CES is following. There will be a bit of an uptick in CES while it's in the run rate of the other two business units. Really, from a margin perspective, we've been offsetting revenue declines. That's been the reality. We've been really focused on driving efficiency, driving savings, especially in back office processes. We'll continue to do that. As soon as we're able to stabilize revenue, we'll start to see accretion because of that. We're going to keep driving. We're going to keep driving the productivity improvements.
Especially now, as we deploy AI internally, we're going to continue to drive productivity.
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Look, every function, I review every business function. I look at how legal is using AI, how marketing and communications is using AI. Every quarter, there is a step up in productivity and cost savings. We created a movie that I played at the end of the earnings call, completely AI generated. I mean, a fraction of the time that it would have taken six months ago. The quality was just as good. It really is impressive. Right now, again, everybody is in pilot mode. You still have headcount that was staffed against a different world and a fully AI tool-centric world. Getting through that rotation is part of what I think is part of what 2026 is about for all companies.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: On the restructuring side then, I think it's been running pretty consistently. Could we see a little bit more volatility there or not necessarily? What's sort of the outlook around given what Raul just said?
Rob Del Bene, CFO, DXC: I think it's stable levels since we are consistently turning over the team and shifting focus and skills. I think we're going to, in the next 18 months or so, it'll be consistent.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Connor?
Just on the kind of revenue side of these fast track products, it sounds like next year is when most of that should come through. Is there any more detail you can kind of share about expectations?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: On the pricing models, we're currently testing different things that are more value-based and less X times Y because they're reoccurring cloud-based products where we think we can create a win-win, either on a per transaction or per event basis with a customer base. The good news is we have flexibility. We've got some good input from a pricing standpoint. People came from different pricing backgrounds, mainly SaaS consumption backgrounds. That's where you'll see it.
Rob Del Bene, CFO, DXC: Yeah, it'll develop over time. We're now in the insurance market. We're in the market with our AI capability today. In the other two segments, we're in pilot mode with the initiatives that Raul is describing. We'll see that develop over time. We're hoping next year to be able to unveil metrics.
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: I mean, the prospect, Raul, of breaking the P times Q and the linearity of revenue and bringing in subscription services has been talked about in the sector for a long time. Do you feel like we're starting to actually see a shift towards subscription or other forms? I think you have the ability to build things today at such a faster pace and at much lower cost. Again, we're not paying for all this compute that we actually are all using today. It will allow you to launch a new revenue stream and I think be super different than the existing revenue streams. I think part of it is also how we manage our people, right? There is a higher degree of empathy. There is a higher degree of being very forward.
Every town hall I do and every meeting in every location that I go to, I get a question about AI. Is AI going to change my job? I remind them that everything they did to get the job they have today, to be sitting in the seat that they sit today, the education, the proactive curiosity, the teaching stuff to yourself, the hustle, all that is still super relevant in the AI world, maybe even more so because the easy work is going to get done. Hustle, curiosity, trying things, learning things, turning around, all those attributes got people their first jobs or the jobs that they have today. All those attributes will keep you there if you lean into them. It is a big threat.
I mean, I've seen technology that I was talking to some CEOs in Asia, and Sora 2 came out, and they're in kind of that business. He goes, wow, it's the first time my product teams have been set back for a second. They're like, wow, that was fast, and that was really good. The best of the best are getting pushed. We're the beneficiaries. As practitioners and as consumers of all this stuff, we are the beneficiaries. I can't imagine the amount of power that I really use prompting some of the stuff that I work on. I'm not paying for it.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Sure. Does it create more tension with some of the software ecosystem, with some of these tools and whatnot that you're developing on top of Hogan? Of course, you already there was running the core. You also have other best-of-breed providers that are providing point solutions against it as well. Does it create more tension?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: No, not yet. Not today because we have such a legacy point of view where we can be very specific. We can structure our solutions to be very deep in the weeds as opposed to a generalized availability of a set of tools or products that then you have to go customize for your workflow or your particular industry. We're kind of working from the other side up. We have great partnerships with all of the hyperscalers, with all of the cloud providers. We have good diversity with regards to where our clients are at, whether it's AWS, Azure, ServiceNow, then abroad. Big themes are sovereign clouds and sovereign AI and private AI instances. Those are big themes that are actually in the Middle East, have been present for many, many years. Now you're starting to see companies that are moving in that direction as well.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Can you do a lot of this work on the fast track side organically?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Fast track side has to pass an exponential bar of value, impact, time, money, speed. We're trying to keep a pretty good definition of what fast track is, really high impact. Core track is just normal tech that just needs to normally work better, faster, with more accuracy.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Could we see DXC dabble more in buying product and tools on the acquisition front?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: I think we can have customized solutions that, again, leverage us. I think on the acquisition front, we're still not a well-oiled enough machine where I have confidence that I can plug something into this part of the company and that it's going to scale. That's still work in progress. I think 2026, there'll be some areas where we go, OK, I'm confident that that is going to be a good use of potential capital. It is going to be small. I am going to want to make sure that the system is ready to accept it and then really accelerate it beyond its standalone value.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: OK, good. Any last question? Happy to take one more. Just to close it out for either of you, just thinking about as we evaluate next year and everybody's looking for KPIs, but what are you most excited for us to track? What should we be paying closer attention to beyond the headlines?
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: I think our net new logo story is a good story that's developing and getting better. The fact that we're getting opportunities on the back of innovative AI work, we're getting in the door. The fact that once we're in the door, we're actually competing and winning is super exciting to me. One of the things seeing and talking about our net new customers that are some of the best players in the world in their particular categories, that's going to be fun.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Very good. Perfect. Really appreciate you being here and spending some time with us.
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Thank you so much.
Tin Jun Huang, Analyst, JPMorgan: Thank you both.
Thank you.
Raul Fernandez, President and CEO, DXC: Thank you.
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