Earnings call transcript: Adaptive Biotechnologies beats Q2 2025 forecasts

Adaptive Biotechnologies reported its second-quarter 2025 earnings, surpassing expectations with a revenue of $58.9 million, a 36% increase year-over-year. The company also reported an earnings per share (EPS) of -$0.17, beating the forecasted -$0.24. Following the earnings announcement, Adaptive Biotechnologies’ stock rose 1.37% in aftermarket trading, reflecting investor optimism. The stock has shown remarkable momentum, delivering a 152.55% return over the past year according to InvestingPro data, though analysts note its price movements remain quite volatile.

Key Takeaways

• Adaptive Biotechnologies exceeded both EPS and revenue forecasts for Q2 2025.
• The company achieved a 36% year-over-year revenue growth, driven by its MRD business.
• Stock price increased by 1.37% in aftermarket trading following the earnings announcement.
• The company raised its full-year MRD revenue guidance to $190-$200 million.
• Positive adjusted EBITDA was achieved in the MRD business.

Company Performance

Adaptive Biotechnologies demonstrated strong performance in Q2 2025, with significant revenue growth driven primarily by its MRD business, which accounted for 85% of total revenue. The company continues to expand its market presence through strategic collaborations and product innovations, positioning itself favorably in the competitive biotechnology sector.

Financial Highlights

• Revenue: $58.9 million, up 36% year-over-year
• Earnings per share: -$0.17, beating the forecast of -$0.24
• Sequencing gross margin improved to 64%, up 14 percentage points
• Net loss for the quarter: $25.6 million

Earnings vs. Forecast

Adaptive Biotechnologies reported an EPS of -$0.17, surpassing the consensus forecast of -$0.24, resulting in a surprise of 29.17%. Revenue also exceeded expectations, coming in at $58.9 million against a forecast of $49.4 million, marking a 19.19% surprise.

Market Reaction

Following the earnings release, Adaptive Biotechnologies’ stock rose by 1.37% to $10.98 in aftermarket trading. The stock’s movement reflects investor confidence in the company’s ability to outperform expectations and maintain growth momentum. The stock remains within its 52-week range, with a high of $12.43 and a low of $3.981.

Outlook & Guidance

The company has raised its full-year MRD revenue guidance to between $190 million and $200 million and expects a 35% volume growth for fiscal year 2025. Additionally, cash burn guidance has been lowered to $45-$55 million, indicating improved financial management and operational efficiency.

Executive Commentary

"Achieving positive adjusted EBITDA in our MRD business marks a major milestone," said Chad Robbins, COO. "We’re confident in delivering on our raised full-year guidance," he added, emphasizing the company’s strong performance and future prospects. Kyle Fischl, CFO, noted, "The strong financial performance of the first half of the year has set up the MRD business to achieve recurring adjusted EBITDA profitability."

Risks and Challenges

• Market Competition: The biotechnology sector is highly competitive, posing a risk to market share and pricing power.
• Regulatory Challenges: Navigating FDA approvals and maintaining compliance can impact product launch timelines.
• Economic Conditions: Macroeconomic pressures could affect funding and investment in biotech innovations.
• International Expansion: Entering new markets involves regulatory, cultural, and operational challenges.
• Technological Advancements: Rapid changes in technology could require continuous innovation and adaptation.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts inquired about the impact of NCCN guideline updates for multiple myeloma and the MIDUS trial results on transplant decision-making. The company also addressed its EMR integration strategy and the potential for international expansion, highlighting its commitment to growth and innovation.

Full transcript - Adaptive Biotechnologies Corp (ADPT) Q2 2025:

Shannon, Conference Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Adaptive Biotechnologies Second Quarter twenty twenty five Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press 11 on your telephone.

You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Carina Caldazia, Vice President, Investor Relations and FP and A. Please go ahead.

Carina Caldazia, Vice President, Investor Relations and FP&A, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Thank you, Shannon, and good afternoon, everyone. I would like to welcome you to Adaptive Biotechnologies’ Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. Earlier today, we issued a press release reporting Adaptive financial results for the 2025. The press release is available at www.adaptivebiotech.com. We are conducting a live webcast of this call and will be referencing to a slide presentation that has been posted to the Investors section of our corporate website.

During the call today, management will make projections and other forward looking statements within the meaning federal securities laws regarding future events and the future financial performance of the company. These statements reflect management’s perspective of the business as of today. Actual results may differ materially from today’s forward looking statements depending on a number of factors, which are set forth in our public filings with the SEC and listed in this presentation. In addition, non GAAP financial measures will be discussed during the call and a reconciliation from non GAAP to GAAP metrics can be found in our earnings release. Joining the call today are Chad Robbins, our COO and Co Founder and Kyle Fischl, our Chief Financial Officer.

Additional members from management will be available for Q and A. With that, I’ll turn the call over to Chad. Chad?

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Thanks, Karina. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us on our second quarter earnings call. Our second quarter results demonstrate strong execution with outperformance on both the top and bottom line. In addition to delivering ahead of expectations, we’re also tracking ahead of schedule on key milestones for the year as shown on slide three. Our MRD business achieved profitability this quarter, delivering approximately $2,000,000 in positive adjusted EBITDA, which we anticipate to increase going forward.

MRD revenue grew 42% year over year, driven by significant increases in clinical volume. We successfully integrated clonoSEQ into Flatiron’s Onco EMR, expanding access in the community. We’ve begun processing clonoSEQ tests on the NovaSeq X, a major step in scaling operations and improving margins. NCCN guidelines for multiple myeloma were updated to strengthen support for ID testing at diagnosis, reducing barriers to MRD testing and helping drive volume. And we launched the first phase of our collaboration with NeoGenomics.

Kyle Fischl, Chief Financial Officer, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Total

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: company sequencing gross margin improved by 14 percentage points year over year to 64%, and cash burn for the quarter was approximately $11,000,000 representing a 36% improvement over the same period last year, ending with a solid cash position of $222,000,000 Given these strong results, we are again raising our full year guidance to reflect a higher MRD revenue range and a lower annual cash burn. Kyle will share more details on this shortly. Let’s now dive into the MRD business on slide five. ClonoSEQ revenue grew 57% year over year in the second quarter, driven by strong demand across all reimbursed indications. We delivered over 25,300 tests, up 37% versus prior year and up 10% sequentially, an increase of about 2,200 tests versus Q1.

Multiple myeloma remains the largest contributor, accounting for forty one percent of U. S. ClonoSEQ volume, followed by ALL at thirty three percent, CLL at ten percent, DLBCL at eight percent, and MCL at five percent. We continue to see positive momentum across several key growth indicators. Blood based testing represents forty four percent of MRD tests, up forty percent from a year ago.

In multiple myeloma, blood based contribution rose to twenty three percent compared to twenty one percent last quarter. Community based testing grew 16% quarter over quarter, reflecting our expanding footprint outside of academic centers. NHL volume rose to 14 of total, up from 11% last year, led by continued growth in DLBCL and MCL. Ordering health care providers grew 35% to over 3,700, reflecting strong provider adoption. And over 18,000 unique patients were tested in Q2, up forty percent year over year and ten percent sequentially.

On the reimbursement front, ASP for clonacy continued its upward trend, reaching above $12.90 dollars per test, a 17% increase year over year. Year to date, we’ve closed or renegotiated eight key agreements with major national and regional payers, with additional agreements anticipated to close in the back half of this year. We remain confident in achieving an average ASP of $1,300 per test for fiscal year twenty twenty five, with a solid growth trajectory well into the future. Now let’s take a look at the progress of EMR integrations on slide six. Integrating clonancy into EMR systems across academic and community settings remains a key driver of volume growth.

In the academic setting, we began EPIC integration about eighteen months ago, and we’re now live at 40 sites, including 13 added since our last call. Epic accounts that have been live for over a year are growing on average about two times faster than non integrated accounts. Among our top 10 accounts, four are now EPIC integrated, and we’re seeing acceleration in those accounts following integration. In the community setting, this quarter we achieved a major milestone with the integration of clonoSEQ into Flatiron across 113 community account groups, many of which include multiple practice locations. This marks a significant advancement in our strategy to scale in the community oncology space.

It also provides Onco EMR users with a more streamlined customer experience, enabling simplified ID MRD ordering and the option for serial testing directly through the EMR. Looking ahead, we plan to continue expanding EMR integrations over the coming years, further accelerating adoption, simplifying workflows, reducing order discrepancy and strengthening our competitive modes. Looking at MRD Pharma on slide seven. Our MRD Pharma business had another strong quarter with revenue up 20% year over year with steady growth in sequencing revenue and $5,500,000 in milestones. We ended the quarter with approximately 175 active global clinical trials and a $218,000,000 backlog, up 21% from the prior year.

This backlog is a strong leading indicator of future revenue. ClonoSEQ is being used as a primary or secondary endpoint in 90 of these studies, many of which may trigger milestone payments upon regulatory approval. On the regulatory front, momentum continues. Recently, the European Medicines Agency, CHMP, issued a positive opinion supporting the use of MRD testing as an early endpoint for conditional approval in multiple myeloma. This decision aligns with the ODAP recommendation and further cements the already strong case for pharma companies to make MRD a central element of their myeloma drug development strategy.

As we continue to monitor developments at the FDA, we’re optimistic about the growing global support for MRD to accelerate new treatments, not just in multiple myeloma, but across all lymphoid malignancies. Turning to slide eight, I’d like to take a moment to highlight some clonoSEQ MRD data presented this quarter at various conferences. Starting with the MIDUS study in multiple myeloma. This seven ninety one patient study is the first prospective randomized MRD directed Phase III trial to assess the ability of clonoSEQ to guide myeloma transplant decisions. The study evaluated the use of consolidation therapy with versus without transplant in patients who achieved MRD negativity by clonoSEQ at the end of induction.

Data shows that patients achieved similar MRD outcomes regardless of whether they received a transplant, supporting the idea that transplant may not be needed for MRD negative patients. In CLL, promising interim data from VENETiStop, an ongoing Phase II study, demonstrated the potential to reduce duration of venetoclax based therapy in patients who achieve an MRD negative response. And in DLBCL, several studies presented at the ICML Conference in Lugano showed how clonoSEQ and ctDNA can effectively assess response and complement imaging across different lines and classes of therapy. Q2 also marked an important milestone for the enhanced version of our clonoSEQ ctDNA assay in DLBCL, as the FDA granted two investigational device exemptions for use in investigator sponsored trials to assess escalation of therapy for patients who remain MRD positive at the end of frontline treatment. It’s exciting to see the expansion of data and studies supporting the interventional use of clonoSEQ, MRD and lymphoid malignancies to inform clinical decision making, and we look forward to more key data readouts at the ASH Conference later this year.

In summary, our MRD business is firing on all cylinders. As shown on Slide nine, we’re only halfway through the year, and most of our key full year strategic goals have been achieved, including reaching MRD profitability this quarter ahead of our second half target. Now let’s turn to immune medicine on Slide 11. Our immune medicine business is on track to meet three main goals. The first goal is to develop a digital TCR antigen prediction model.

As we scale the size and quality of our data generation, we aim to replace our validated TCR discovery cellular assays with this digital TCR antigen prediction model, which will significantly reduce both cost and time. We’re starting to digitally model the ability to accurately select the best TCRs in our cell therapy application with Genentech. We’re also making good progress in applying our large training data sets. This includes improving the accuracy of our TCR antigen binding predictions and deploying our AI machine learning models to enable additional partnering opportunities with attractive future monetization potential. The second goal is to build a robust preclinical data package for our lead T cell depletion program in autoimmunity.

We are conducting functional and biophysical characterization of our top antibody candidates in our lead clinical indication. We also solidified our patient selection strategy in this indication. This will allow us to select only those patients who we confirm have the specific disease causing autoreactive T cell receptors and who are at a higher likelihood to respond to our T cell depletion therapy. As we continue to execute on these two focused therapeutic strategies, our third goal is to achieve our 2025 cash burn target of 25,000,000 to $30,000,000 by scaling revenue generation from pharma partnering and continuing to thoughtfully gate R and D investments through year end. Now I’m going to pass it over to Kyle to walk through our financial results and our updated full year guidance.

Kyle?

Kyle Fischl, Chief Financial Officer, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Thanks, Chad. Starting on slide 12 with results for the second quarter. Total revenue was $58,900,000 representing 36% growth from the same period last year. 85% of the revenue came from the MRD business and 15% from immune medicine. MRD revenue grew 42% versus prior year to $49,900,000 with clinical and pharma contributions of 6535%, respectively.

ClonoSEQ test volumes, including international, increased 37% to 25,321 tests delivered versus last year. ASP in The U. S. Grew about 17% to twelve ninety. The continued improvement in ASP is mainly driven by our contracting initiatives improving our pricing and revenue cycle management activities, including aged collections.

MRD Pharma revenue grew 20% versus prior year, inclusive of 5.5 milestones. The meat medicine revenue was $8,900,000 up 13% from a year ago. Moving down the P and L, sequencing gross margin, which excludes milestones and Genentech amortization, was 64% for the quarter. This represents an improvement of 14 percentage points versus prior year as we continue to leverage lower labor and overhead costs with increasing volumes and higher pricing across both our clinical and pharma revenues. Total operating expenses for the quarter inclusive of cost of revenue was $83,900,000 representing a 1% increase from last year, excluding the Q2 twenty twenty four asset impairment costs.

This increase was mainly driven by higher sales and marketing spend attributed to EMR efforts and higher people costs, partially offset by lower cost of revenue and R and D spend. As you can see from the segment reporting table at the bottom of the slide, the MRD business achieved positive adjusted EBITDA of $1,900,000 a massive improvement versus a deficit of 11,300,000 a year ago. This is a significant milestone for the business and we continue to expect positive MRD adjusted EBITDA going forward. Immune medicine adjusted EBITDA loss also improved 14% versus Q2 of last year. Total company adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $7,200,000 in the second quarter compared to a $21,400,000 loss in the prior year.

Interest expense from a royalty financing agreement with OrbiMed was $2,900,000 which was slightly higher than interest income. Net loss for the quarter was $25,600,000 Now, let’s turn to our full year 2025 updated guidance on slide 13. We are again raising our full year MRD revenue guidance to a range of 190,000,000 to $200,000,000 up from our previous range of 180,000,000 to $190,000,000 This increase is driven by stronger than expected clinical volume performance in the second quarter and higher MRD milestone revenue anticipated for the year. Given the strong clonoSEQ test volumes in the quarter and the momentum we are seeing, we now expect approximately 35% growth in fiscal year twenty twenty five volumes versus 2024, and we anticipate sequential growth in both the third and fourth quarters. We also expect revenue from MRD milestones to be between 14,000,000 and $15,000,000 up from our previous guidance of 8,000,000 to 9,000,000 This updated MRD revenue guide represents significant growth of 31% to 37% versus fiscal year twenty twenty four and thirty two percent to 39% for the MRD based business, which excludes MRD milestones at the midpoint.

We are reiterating our full year total company operating expense guidance, including cost of revenue to be between $335,000,000 and $345,000,000 We continue to expect approximately 69% of this to be driven by the MRD business and 23% from the Maine Medicine, with the remainder attributed to unallocated corporate costs. Lastly, we are lowering our full year total company cash burden guidance to a range of 45,000,000 to $55,000,000 down from the prior range of 50,000,000 to $60,000,000 This improvement is primarily driven by the higher than expected MRD revenue. We now expect approximately 18% of this year’s cash burn to come from the MRD business and still anticipate burn from immune medicine to be between 25,000,000 and $30,000,000 with the remainder attributed to unallocated corporate costs. The strong financial performance of the first half of the year has set up the MRD business to achieve recurring adjusted EBITDA profitability and a clear pathway to cash breakeven in the near term. Across the business, we will remain focused on this disciplined execution to drive continued sustainable growth while managing our investments appropriately.

With that, I’ll hand it back over to Chad.

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Thanks, Kyle. Our second quarter results are a clear testament to our disciplined execution and strategic focus across every part of the business. Achieving positive adjusted EBITDA in our MRD business marks a major milestone, one that reflects the strength of our model and the commitment of our team. We’re confident in delivering on our raised full year guidance and remain focused on execution with the discipline, urgency and precision needed to deliver on our goals and create long term value for our patients, our partners, and our shareholders. With that, I’d like to now turn the call back over to the operator and open it up for questions.

Shannon, Conference Operator: Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press 11 again. Our first question comes from Dan Brennan from TD Securities.

Your line is open.

Dan Brennan, Analyst, TD Securities: Terrific. Thank you. Thanks for the questions and nice quarter obviously. Maybe

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: the first

Dan Brennan, Analyst, TD Securities: one just on the volume side, really strong volume. Chad, you called out a lot of the vignettes about the success and the impact of Epic. I just wonder if you could speak a little bit on Flatiron. Obviously, you just did the rollout now. It’s pretty massive.

Kind of are there any early kind of things to note on what you’re seeing so far? And can you just remind us how you’re thinking about the volume growth guide that you’ve given for the back half of the year? And how we might think about the benefits of the new accounts on Flatiron and kind of how those might flow through in terms of volume shrink?

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Sure, Dan. Thanks for the question. I’m going to have Susan kind of jump in with some details on Flatiron.

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Sure. Hi, Dan. So as you know, we went live nationally with Onco EMR on July 1. So we are in very early days of the integration. And remember that many of the Onco EMR accounts are accounts where we have little or no existing business.

This integration does represent a significant opportunity to expand in the community. Prior to the integration, these accounts made up about 6% of our total volume and about 20% of our community volume. We’re very pleased with the initial results we are seeing, albeit it is very early, both in terms of the volume and the workflow, and we’re receiving resoundingly positive feedback from our customers. We are also observing that a majority of the ordering HCPs at these accounts are opting to use the serial monitoring feature that Chad alluded to in his earlier remarks. And that’s a new feature of our ordering process that’s currently unique to Oncolyamar.

We do expect that it will support more consistent ordering at clinically appropriate time points in the community. Now we did build the Flatiron launch into our guide as a growth driver both for Q3 and Q4 but I do think there’s potential for upside. We’ll continue to gain insight into exactly what the pace and degree of acceleration that we can expect from this is as we gain a little bit more experience.

Dan Brennan, Analyst, TD Securities: Terrific. Yeah, there’d be a lot to unpack on that, which we can do later. Maybe just on the pricing side, as a second follow-up there. Terms of pricing came in nice success there. I know you mentioned, I guess contracting and things.

Could unpack a little bit about what you saw on clonoSEQ pricing? I know you reiterated the full year guide. It seems like you have a lot of momentum there. I’m just wondering across different payer types, where are you seeing the biggest traction and kind of what are you assuming for the back half of the year, which arguably could be conservative?

Kyle Fischl, Chief Financial Officer, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Yes. Thanks for the question, Dan. This is Kyle. On the pricing improvement, I mean, think we’re gaining kind of the growth from the contracting efforts we implemented in the back half of last year, and we’re starting to see that pull through across a number of the Blue Cross payers. Medicare, just a percentage of mix is mixing to the newer price point.

And so we’re seeing those effects. But as we look forward to the second half of the year, a number of our larger contracting implementations with the larger national payers come into play. I think we’re well set up into the second half of the year to continue to see some improvement. We did have some initial wins. It’s a little early to say if it’s going to kind of continue at this rate with California and Medicaid as well in the second quarter.

That’s giving us some momentum heading into the back half of the year.

Dan Brennan, Analyst, TD Securities: If I can just sneak one more in. Just on the EBITDA side, really nice traction in the quarter. How do we think about as we look ahead and you’re balancing investments in the business versus really seeing some of this EBITDA margin potential flow through? How might we think about kind of where you can end the year and what that means as we look ahead to 2026 on the MRD side? Thank you.

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Kyle, you start on just in terms

Kyle Fischl, Chief Financial Officer, Adaptive Biotechnologies: of numbers and then I’ll provide color commentary. Yes. A great milestone for the business to achieve positive adjusted EBITDA. I think in terms of back half of the year, we are set up with the right trajectory to continue to repeat adjusted EBITDA profitability. And in terms of the magnitude of that, some of that will vary depending on the timing of milestones, etcetera.

But we’re thinking about this as the business is set up to kind of continuously produce positive adjusted EBITDA. And we’re seeing that for the longer term here.

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Yes. And Dan, I would say this. For the MRD business, we’re seeing, as evidenced by the last several quarters, a really nice acceleration. But there’s still we’re still in the very early innings and there’s a kind of a long growth trajectory ahead of us in blood based testing in the community setting, additional data generation. So we’ll continue make investments in the MRD business.

And then kind of in the medium term, obviously, there’s international markets to explore additional capital allocations towards and potentially additional tests and kind of blood based measures to support the MRD business. So as we look forward, we’ll kind of balance out our capital allocation and kind of investments going forward to for our growth trajectory.

Dan Brennan, Analyst, TD Securities: Great. Okay. Thank you very much.

Shannon, Conference Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrew Brackmann from William Blair. Your line is open.

Andrew Brackmann, Analyst, William Blair: Great. Hi, everyone. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Chad, maybe around your commentary around expanding the footprint into the community channel, Flatiron is obviously a major level there.

Kyle Fischl, Chief Financial Officer, Adaptive Biotechnologies: But can you maybe just sort of talk about some

Andrew Brackmann, Analyst, William Blair: of the other drivers there, which should help you drive growth here, not just in the second half, but even longer term, be that screening indications or blood of the sample type? Thanks.

Dan Brennan, Analyst, TD Securities: Yeah. One of the things that

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: we highlighted in our prepared remarks was the NeoGenomics collaboration. And we’re excited about that because they’re in 60% of the accounts that they’re in were not in at all yet. So that’s a really nice opportunity for us to increase our penetration. And Susan, do you want to comment on some other efforts that we’re doing in the community in terms of putting together pathways, etcetera?

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Happy to. Yeah, Andrew, a couple of other things that are consistent in our strategy. One is a continued focus on the large national strategic accounts, these oncology practice networks that control a large proportion of the cancer patients in the community settings. So those we have a separate sales team that focuses specifically on top down strategy engaging with the C suite, etcetera, to ensure that we have unified direction from their leadership and policies that we can advance that can be consistent across the entire network. The other key thing is engaging academic thought leaders to help us drive community adoption.

They have the credibility with those providers. They have the referral networks that they can use to leverage their influence. And therefore we’ve increasingly and particularly in the in light of the recent NCCN guideline updates with multiple myeloma, we’ve been leveraging our thought leaders and partnering with them to deliver education to the community on things like why it’s important to perform an ID test at the time of diagnosis. So in combination with our EMR strategy and a collaboration with NEO, those are some of the key things that are consistent in our community strategy. And you mentioned blood that will always be a part of the conversation and a key adoption driver for community clinics.

Andrew Brackmann, Analyst, William Blair: Great, thanks. And then as a follow-up here, Chad, just want to follow-up to some of the comments you made to Dan’s last question around sort of additional investments here. ClonoC clearly has a long growth ahead of it. But as you think about adding menu here, some other labs are trying to become more of a one stop shop. What are some of the key characteristics that you might consider as you’re thinking about bringing on additional tests?

Thanks.

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Yeah. I look at it in two ways. One is brand and the other is channel. So how do you leverage your brand in MRD is one thing I look at. And then secondly is how do we leverage a really superior channel that we’ve built in the hemonc space.

So I would say kind of those are the broad based type. So that’s kind of a broad based from an MRD perspective. And then secondarily, I look at what is the kind of infrastructure we’ve built to be able to both validate, support diagnostics kind of more broadly. And as you know, we’ve been putting together, for example, this TCR antigen prediction model. It could have some kind of future applications with in the diagnostic channels, again early on, but these are the things that we continue to explore.

Sebastian Sandler, Analyst, JPMorgan: Great.

Mark Massaro, Analyst, BTIG: Thanks guys.

Shannon, Conference Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from David Westenberg from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

David Westenberg, Analyst, Piper Sandler: Hey, thanks for taking the question. I actually wanted to tack on for Dan’s question on profitability. And again, congrats on the profitability in the MRD business. But you also implied cash flow positive on a go forward basis. Given the factors in terms of like fluctuations in milestone payments and whatnot, Do you have visibility on what the milestone payments look like maybe this quarter and next?

And if you don’t get me in the next couple of quarters, is there a chance for you to go below? And essentially what I’m laying out with this question is the ability for you to not be held to a certain number if there is indeed milestones or not milestones.

Kyle Fischl, Chief Financial Officer, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Yes. Thanks David. This is Kyle. As it relates to the back half of the year, I mean we implied in our guide that there’s about 4,000,000 to $5,000,000 to go in the back half of the year as we have $10,000,000 altogether. So again, yes, could those be lumpy in a quarter by quarter basis?

Certainly. I think as I think about cash flow positivity and where the business trajectory is headed, I’m trying to think about that on an annualized basis, just given quarter to quarter, we can have variability in spend investment, etcetera. But I think what we’re set up to do is to continue to deliver that with the trajectory of the clinical business and the volume growth we’re seeing there, strong performance in the pharma business as well. So I think we’re not exactly there yet, but with the NovaSeq coming online, the trajectory of the business set up to kind of deliver that in the near term.

David Westenberg, Analyst, Piper Sandler: Appreciate that. And then I just want to talk about the clonoSEQ volumes. I mean, we’re really seeing kind of acceleration 37% year over year growth. You’re already at a higher base and you got 10% sequentially. So obviously, things are going really well there.

Can rank order

Dan Brennan, Analyst, TD Securities: some of

David Westenberg, Analyst, Piper Sandler: the factors in terms of what’s been driving the volume increases? I’m guessing a lot of this has been the integrations, but if there’s anything we’re missing in terms of new indications, for instance, DLBCL or anything like that. And if you

Dan Brennan, Analyst, TD Securities: can give us kind of

David Westenberg, Analyst, Piper Sandler: a flavor for how these integrations go and how that kind of how you see volumes trickling out over the next quarters or so? I think you’ve mentioned you had doubled the amount of volume in or doubled the amount of volume growth in EPIC integrated versus non EPIC or not it was flat iron. Does that expected you expect to see a tail there for a number of years? And sorry to make this really long, but can you clarify the ordering, the integration where you have multiple orders with specific timing? And I just want to basically clarify on that.

Do you ever get timing or did you ever get more than four test ordering ordered on that? Hopefully, that was clear. That was a lot. Thank you.

Shannon, Conference Operator: Thank you.

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Me see if I can take those out, at least the first couple one by one. So in terms of the volume growth, as you noted, we’ve seen a number of we’ve anticipated that there could be upside and we’ve seen that upside realized in Q2. And I think we’ll take advantage of the EMAR integrations on an ongoing basis. I think some of the other things in Q2 that were important were, first of all, continued strong growth in mantle cell lymphoma, which we recently launched, as you know, as well as in diffuse large B cell lymphoma, which is one of our newer indications and one for which the data continues to build and the sort of clinical use case continues to be, I think, made more clear. We also had the tailwinds of the NCCN guidelines update.

We continue to see very strong support globally for MRD in pharma, which has synergies and spillover to the clinical setting. So our blood testing increased overall, blood testing increased in multiple myeloma. I think all the things that we’re doing are all sort of delivering and contributing to the growth, so it’s not just one thing. And that will continue to be the story going forward. With regard to integrations, we did see a significant increase in the pace of integrations through epics that we were able to deliver in q two.

13 a quarter was the most we’ve done, and we’ve doubled the number that we’ve completed in the last six months. So we went from 20 to 40 in six months. It’s certainly on the account side. There are many dependencies that we have on our accounts to complete those integrations, so it’s difficult to predict the pace going forward. But we do feel confident that we’re on track for our goal of about 50% of our volume going through an integration, either Epic or otherwise, by the end of the year.

I do think that eventually integrations will slow down, but we are not there yet. We have more ahead of us than we have behind us and much more opportunity to optimize the integrations that are already in place so that we can see even better differentiation of the growth in those accounts versus the non integrated accounts. And then lastly, I think you asked about the episode tile. I don’t know if you want to take that one or if you’d like me to.

Kyle Fischl, Chief Financial Officer, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Yeah, David and Susan, feel free to chime in. From an ordering perspective, clinicians are still ordering test by test effectively. They can, in certain integrations, place reminders for future orders, but really we’re just paid a bundle for Medicare and that’s specific to the Medicare coverage and Medicare line of business. So, if we get an eligible test for Medicare that is paid once for the effective four tests.

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: David, I think you were asking specifically about serial testing and as it relates to logistics of our integrations. One of the unique features that we’ve done for the first time in the Flatiron Onco EMR system, the actual default is you can order a number of tests. So it’s kind of three, six, nine tests a sorry, on a recurring basis of three months, six months, nine months, every twelve months or every time a patient comes in or you can say, I want to order on a test by test basis. And I’m not going to give you statistics. I’ll just say it’s kind of early.

But we’ve seen a very nice uptake in clinicians that have clicked on a button to order on a cadence of a monthly three, six, nine or twelve month cadence. And so that’s what we’re talking about in terms of the excitement around repeat ordering and the functionality that we can build into these AMR systems.

David Westenberg, Analyst, Piper Sandler: I got a long question there. So sorry about that. Congrats again. Thank you.

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Thanks, David.

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Thank you.

Shannon, Conference Operator: Our next question comes from Mark Massaro from BTIG. Go ahead.

Mark Massaro, Analyst, BTIG: Hey, guys. Congrats on a strong quarter. I have a few questions on the EMR integration. So there are looks like everything is going well. So you’ve got 40 on Epic, 13 were in Q2.

So it looks like you had 27 heading into Q2. Would you define those 27 prior to this quarter as the mature integrated sites? The reason I ask is, I’m trying to get a feel for how long it takes you to get to a degree of maturity such that you’re seeing, call it, 2x growing twice as fast within mature Epic integration. And then I also wanted to ask about Flatiron. I recognize that that was a lot of sites all at once over 100 sites.

Effectively, was that just pushing a button overnight? And then do you have a sense for do you have enough data that the Flatiron could see similar pull through to the mature Epic sites?

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: I think I can take those questions, Mark. So, on Epic, so we’re defining mature sites as those that have been live for at least a year. So not all of those 27. In fact, you know, it’s it’s more like six at this point. And we are looking at those specifically because we wanted to understand if the early impact that we’re seeing immediately post integration, which is generally pretty significant, can be sustained.

So in fact, if I were to talk about the impact in the three months post integration, there’s usually a larger impact. But over time, we wanted to see what that looked like, and we do see a consistent pace of increased growth. But it’s still because we’ve been doing this for about eighteen months, and we have a smaller group that we started with that has been live for at least a year, including a number of smaller accounts. Frankly, they’re mostly smaller accounts in that initial group. We’ll have to continue to learn more as we gain more data.

But six months from now, we’ll have a much larger group. We’ll have about 20 that have been alive for a year.

Mark Massaro, Analyst, BTIG: Okay. That’s really helpful. So my second question is on the oh, sorry. Go ahead.

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Oh, I’m sorry. Did you want me to go ahead on the Flatiron one? Sorry. I didn’t

Mark Massaro, Analyst, BTIG: Of course. Yeah. Keep going. Yeah. Thanks.

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Sorry. You’re you’re correct that Flatiron, was essentially pushing a button. On July 1, all of those 113 account groups went live. We actually did a small pilot with four of them prior, but all of the rest went live on July 1. And it’s, I think, too early to say whether we can anticipate similar patterns, but I will point back to what Chad was talking about, the serial testing option, which is easier to use in Flatiron’s Ankouyamar than it is to use a similar feature like standing orders in Epic.

At least it’s easier for us to have visibility into it and it’s easier to schedule the patient and so we do anticipate that we’ll have a better ability to follow through on serial orders and help support clinicians in delivering appropriate testing frequency with Flatiron. I do see some upside there, but it’s very early to speculate beyond that.

Mark Massaro, Analyst, BTIG: Okay. Thanks so much for that. Then my last question, I wanted to better understand the NEO collaboration. So it looks like you launched Phase I. Chad or maybe someone else on the team, can you expand on what Phase I consists of?

And then what would Phase II be? And then I recognize this is a commercial partnership. So my understanding is that there’s going to be neo reps going out selling clonoSEQ to many of their customers. Just give us a sense for what type of lift we might be able to see. And I imagine this is more of a 2026 impact, but, should we expect any impact in the ’6 excuse me, ’5?

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Sure. So phase one, is our pilot effort with a very small handful of small accounts, again, with the intent of ensuring that we’ve worked through all the operational processes, the collaboration and handoff between the two companies with accounts that are willing to do the process in a fairly manual manner. So it’s really intended for us to learn and gather insights both from the customer and from our own processes as opposed to generate any material impact on volume. And I would extend that expectation through the remainder of 2025. We do have the plan to bring on additional accounts during the course of the second half of this year, but I don’t anticipate material impacts to to our volumes beyond what we’ve already guided.

2026 and 2027 is where we will see that material lift when we when we launch nationally in the early part of next year.

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: And just one clarification, Mark, of what you kind of mentioned that NEO reps are going out and selling clonoSEQ tests. And I want to just be clear on how that works. They’re going out and selling a COMPASS panel that will include, as a part of a battery of ID tests done at diagnosis, that will include the ID, clonoSEQ test, as part of the COMPASS workup. And then effectively, they’re selling the COMPASS workup with MRD baked in. That’s it.

And then secondly, as part of their recurrence monitoring or their monitoring across the patient life cycle, they have an offering called Chart, and they’ll be selling effectively clonoSEQ embedded into the Chart offering as the clonoSEQ MRD test.

Mark Massaro, Analyst, BTIG: Great. Thanks so much, guys. Sure.

Shannon, Conference Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Rachel Van Stahl from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Sebastian Sandler, Analyst, JPMorgan: Hi, this is Sebastian Sandler on for Rachel. Thank you for taking the question. So I wanted to touch on the NCCN update for multiple myeloma, which recommended the baseline clonal ID testing to enable MRD testing later on. You called out the 10% sequential growth in unique patients. And since the update came in late June, I wouldn’t think that 10% included any impact from the guideline update.

I’m just wondering if you’ve seen any changes in ordering patterns, especially around that funnel ID testing and how that’s been trending since the update? And then just how should we think about these unique IDs translating into MRD testing later on? Thank you.

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Thanks for the question, Sebastian. What I would say to start is that the NCCN Guidelines update certainly is a tailwind for us and something that we’ve been actively leveraging, particularly in the community setting in both our direct education of HCPs, as well as the KOL driven education that I mentioned earlier. It’s helping us to deliver a message that we were already delivering, which is the importance of ensuring that each and every patient with multiple myeloma has the opportunity to be tracked by clonoSEQ and that opportunity is secured if you test at the time of diagnosis or if at least you make sure that you collect an appropriate sample for subsequent NGS MRD testing. So while certainly it is I think, a support to all of our goals, we projecting are any specific increase in volumes as a result of that by itself. I think again it will contribute to the efforts that we already have ongoing.

And I’m very optimistic that in the community setting, it will be compelling and credible as a reason for this to happen. We can anecdotally tell many stories of accounts that are currently evaluating and I think seriously considering upfront ID testing protocols in the community. There are already accounts that are doing that today. It is not the majority of our ID testing. And we’ve seen fairly consistently about 30% of our test volume come from IDs over the last several years.

I don’t anticipate that dramatically changing, but the balance of indications where we have more mature indications like ALL where many patients are ID ed and new indications as well as myeloma where ID is becoming more of a there’s more support for it. I think that we’ll continue to see a strong contribution of ID testing over time.

Sebastian Sandler, Analyst, JPMorgan: Got it. Thanks. And then just one on the backlog. It seemed like that’s growing nicely, closing at around $218,000,000 after ending 2024, a little over 200,000,000 it also looks like the primary endpoints stepped up to 17 from 10 ending 4Q last year. So just how should we think about the burn there translating to sequencing revenues?

Is there any meaningful difference in the burn rate between these primary versus secondary endpoints? And then lastly, have you seen any recent change in pharma customer behavior in that segment just given some of the headlines around tariffs and MFN? And do you anticipate any headwinds there going forward? I think some of your peers have called out a bit of bumpiness there. So just wondering if you’re seeing any or building any into the guide.

Thanks.

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Go ahead, Scott.

Kyle Fischl, Chief Financial Officer, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Go ahead, Steven.

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: All right.

Kyle Fischl, Chief Financial Officer, Adaptive Biotechnologies: As it relates to the backlog, I mean, in terms of the burn profile, I mean, I think of it as we’re continuously replenishing our backlog with new bookings and that’s what’s highlighted by the improving backlog relative to exit value of 2024. I think the timeframe on which that backlog converts into revenue is really unchanged, maybe a little bit of a pull forward, but obviously with the dynamics at the FDA and our pharma partners investments, it’s still contingent upon when their trials are reading out, many patients are enrolling and when we can enable some of that MRD testing. But broadly, don’t think the profile has changed dramatically and we’re going to continue to grow bookings, and we’re confident in the pipeline we have around the pharma business.

Chad Robbins, COO and Co-Founder, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Yes. And as it relates to more general question about our MRD Pharma business going forward and kind of impacts of tariffs, NIH and the FDA. First, we’ll start with kind of the tariffs in the FDA. There’s very excuse me tariffs in the NIH, there’s very little impact as we look through kind of the portfolios. We’re really not subject to NIH funding in terms of kind of very little percentage of our business.

Kind of as it relates to kind of the FDA, I would just start by saying globally that there is really a growing global support for MRD to use as an endpoint for the acceleration of kind of therapy in multiple myeloma. And even more broadly, there’s coalitions forming in other areas other indications as well. So we’re very positive kind of on acceleration of MRD therapies based on MRD. So ODAC recommendation last year along with the CHMP positive opinion on MRD using MRD as an early endpoint, it’s just continued in further validation of MRD as a particular response. So overall, we’re very kind of bullish on the MRD pharma opportunity.

Sebastian Sandler, Analyst, JPMorgan: Great. Thank you.

Shannon, Conference Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Yuko Oku from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Carina Caldazia, Vice President, Investor Relations and FP&A, Adaptive Biotechnologies0: Hello. Thank you for taking my questions. On CHMP opinion is supporting the use of MRD as an early endpoint in multiple myeloma clinical trials. How important was that milestone for your pharma customers in order to further incentivize incorporation of MRD as an endpoint? And then also second part to that, and given the halo effect that ODAC recommendation had on physicians in The U.

S, does this also bring OUS opportunity into greater focus for you?

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: I’ll start out, Goh, thank you for the question on CHMP. I think that we saw this as further confirmation of what pharma had already come to believe based on the ODAC vote and recommendation a little over a year ago. The CHMP decision was anticipated and in fact among our pharma partners who are currently executing or planning global clinical trials, they had expected that they would be able to leverage primary endpoint status for MRD in those settings. This was an important affirmation of that expectation, and I think further supports the sort of global acceptance of MRD as a key endpoint in clinical trials for myeloma as well as frankly, other key malignancies. We’re seeing growing support and growing utilization of MRD as a primary endpoint in other disease states.

And there are coalitions that have formed, pharma companies and investigators that are actively pursuing endpoint status for MRD. And we have signed a number of primary endpoint studies in diseases other than myeloma. So feel that that’s again, supportive of what was already considerable momentum that was building post ODAC. And then as relates to the halo effect you described that ODAC had on HCPs here in The U. S, I think the OUS impact could be similar.

I will say that regardless of that, we had already been, as Chad alluded to, starting to think about international expansion and how that might look. There is a significant opportunity outside The US, particularly in Europe that we can consider pursuing. I believe that CHMP’s opinion and the European KOL’s alignment with that opinion does support the opportunity outside The U. As something that may be worthwhile to prioritize

Andrew Brackmann, Analyst, William Blair: in the not distant future.

Carina Caldazia, Vice President, Investor Relations and FP&A, Adaptive Biotechnologies0: Great. Thank you. And then the MIDUS trial was also an important milestone for you that demonstrated utility of clonoSEQ in aiding physician decision to transplant in Could you share some of the feedback from the physicians post data readout and whether you’re already seeing some volume inflect as a result?

Susan, Unnamed Executive, Adaptive Biotechnologies: Sure. Feedback in general has been quite positive. This is the first time that a study that looked at this question was prospectively designed, randomized, and therefore, I think the results are more compelling than perhaps some earlier studies that sort of answered this question in an indirect way. It’s also a very large study and was put forward by a very well regarded and highly credible group of thought leaders from France. We’ve been very eager to bring it into conversation.

I think interestingly in the community setting, really resonates, particularly in combination with the NCCN guideline update, where we can say it is important to ID your patient at the time of diagnosis so that you can then obtain this post induction MRD assessment which may allow you to avoid a transplant for your MRD negative patient. In the community what that means is you may not need to refer that patient away to an academic center for a transplant which is a very appealing notion if it can be done in a safe way for the patient, which this data supports that it can. There is some consideration of the fact that this data will continue to develop. MRD response was the primary endpoint in this study and that’s something that is relatively new but now very common in a lot of study designs. And so some clinicians are interested to continue to see some of the longer term follow-up on this study, but overall very, very open, a lot of openness to this, a lot of discussion that it opens up and the dialogue with the patient is I think the thing that people are most excited about to have something they can share with the patient who is hesitant about transplant, which is an increasing proportion of patients.

Thank you.

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