Earnings call transcript: American Assets Trust Q2 2025 misses EPS forecast

American Assets Trust (AAT) reported its Q2 2025 financial results, revealing an earnings per share (EPS) of $0.09, slightly below the forecast of $0.10. Despite this miss, the company exceeded revenue expectations with $107.93 million against a forecast of $107.75 million. The stock reacted negatively, dropping 1.92% to close at $20.35, with further premarket decline noted. According to InvestingPro analysis, AAT currently trades below its Fair Value, suggesting potential upside opportunity. The company maintains a strong dividend yield of 6.68% and has raised its dividend for 4 consecutive years.

Key Takeaways

• EPS was slightly below expectations, with a 10% negative surprise.
• Revenue surpassed forecasts, showing a slight positive surprise.
• Stock price fell by 1.92% post-earnings, with continued premarket decline.
• Full-year 2025 FFO guidance was increased to $1.89-$2.01 per share.
• Strong leasing activity across office and retail portfolios.

Company Performance

American Assets Trust demonstrated resilience in its Q2 2025 performance despite the EPS miss. The company showed strong leasing activity, with 102,000 square feet of office space and over 220,000 square feet of retail leases executed. The multifamily portfolio maintained a high occupancy rate of approximately 94%, highlighting robust demand in this segment.

Financial Highlights

• Revenue: $107.93 million, slightly above forecast.
• Earnings per share: $0.09, missing the forecast of $0.10.
• FFO per diluted share: $0.52.
• Total liquidity: $544 million, including $144 million in cash.
• Net debt to EBITDA ratio: 6.3x.

Earnings vs. Forecast

The company’s EPS of $0.09 fell short of the expected $0.10, resulting in a 10% negative surprise. However, revenue exceeded expectations, coming in at $107.93 million compared to the forecast of $107.75 million, reflecting a positive surprise of 0.17%.

Market Reaction

Following the earnings announcement, American Assets Trust’s stock declined by 1.92% to $20.35. The stock has seen a further decrease of 1.23% in premarket trading, indicating investor concerns over the EPS miss. The share price remains above the 52-week low of $16.69 but well below the high of $29.15.

Outlook & Guidance

The company has revised its full-year 2025 FFO guidance upwards to $1.89-$2.01 per share, with a midpoint of $1.95. This reflects management’s confidence in continued strong performance, particularly in the retail and multifamily segments. The company is focusing on driving occupancy and enhancing tenant experiences to capitalize on current market trends.

Executive Commentary

CEO Adam Lyle emphasized the importance of remaining adaptable, stating, "Stay nimble, stay thoughtful, and stay true to our strategy." CFO Bob expressed confidence in Hawaii’s tourism market, which is expected to bolster the company’s performance. Executive Ernest highlighted the company’s interest in potential acquisitions, particularly in the multifamily and retail sectors.

Risks and Challenges

• Office market challenges with demand concentrated in smaller spaces.
• Supply challenges in Portland’s multifamily market.
• Global economic uncertainties impacting market recovery.
• Potential saturation in certain retail markets.
• Dependency on tourism recovery in Hawaii.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts inquired about the company’s interest in AI-driven office leasing and potential acquisitions. Management expressed cautious optimism about market recovery and highlighted ongoing monitoring of global economic conditions.

The company’s strategic initiatives and focus on high-quality assets in coastal markets position it well for future growth, despite current challenges in the office market and broader economic uncertainties. With a beta of 1.17 and consistent dividend payments for 15 consecutive years, AAT demonstrates resilience in volatile markets. Track AAT’s performance and access detailed financial metrics through the InvestingPro platform, where you’ll find exclusive insights and advanced analytical tools for informed investment decisions.

Full transcript - American Assets Trust Inc (AAT) Q2 2025:

Conference Operator: Good morning, and welcome to the American Assets Trust Inc. Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. I would now like to turn the call over to Meliana Leverton, Associate General Counsel of American Assets Trust. Please go ahead.

Meliana Leverton, Associate General Counsel, American Assets Trust: Thank you, and good morning. The statements made on this earnings call include forward looking statements based on current expectations, which statements are subject to risks and uncertainties discussed in the company’s filings with the SEC. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward looking statements as actual events could cause the company’s results to differ materially from these forward looking statements. Yesterday afternoon, American Assets Trust’s earnings release and supplemental information were furnished to the SEC on Form eight ks. Both are now available on the Investors section of its website, americanassetstrust.com.

It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Adam Lyle, President and CEO of American Assets Trust.

Adam Lyle, President and CEO, American Assets Trust: Good morning, everyone. At American Assets Trust, we approach every cycle with the same mindset. Stay nimble, stay thoughtful, and stay true to our strategy. Investing in our high quality assets, maintaining balance sheet strength and creating long term value for our shareholders. That consistency has carried us through challenging environments before, and we believe it continues to serve us well today as we navigate elevated interest rates, persistent inflation, tariff uncertainty and evolving tenant demand.

In the 2025, our results came in just above our own expectations. FFO per diluted share was $0.52 and same store cash NOI was approximately flat for Q2 and up 1.4% year to date compared to the prior year. These results reflect steady performance in a mixed operating environment and underscore the resilience of our portfolio and the value of our disciplined approach to asset management. Turning to the portfolio. Our office portfolio ended the quarter 82% leased, and our same store office portfolio, which excludes 1 Beach and La Jolla Commons III, ended the quarter 87% leased.

Same store office cash NOI was approximately flat for the quarter and up over 2% year to date as compared to the prior year. We completed approximately 102,000 square feet of leasing during the quarter, with comparable rent spreads decreasing two percent on a cash basis and increasing 10% on a straight line basis. Notably, the negative cash basis rent spread was primarily attributable to a deal backfilling a 12,000 square foot first in main space with just two months of downtime, no TIs and a lower start rate than the prior tenant, but with 5% annual bumps. We entered Q3 with solid momentum, including approximately 17,000 square feet of executed leases, an additional 111,000 square feet in active lease documentation. Leasing interest continues to build across our office portfolio, reflected in growing prospect engagement and inbound RFP volume.

Across our office portfolio, demand remains concentrated at less than full floor requirements, and winning in this environment depends on several fundamentals: ownership with the financial strength to fund tenant improvements and commissions a reputation for operational excellence and responsive service, completed renovations and amenities, availability of move in ready suites requiring only light customization, hands on construction management that minimizes cost and schedule uncertainty, in an efficient, solutions oriented lease negotiation process because time kills deals. Of course, our near term focus remains on driving occupancy, enhancing the tenant experience, and positioning the portfolio to perform well under current utilization patterns, even if broader office attendance has reached a near term equilibrium. We remain confident in our coastal high barrier markets over the long term as employers continue to prioritize high quality, collaborative and amenitized environments to support productivity and talent retention. In fact, this year, two of the world’s largest real estate brokerage firms, neither of which represent us as a landlord, chose our San Diego properties for their new headquarters in the market. We view this as a meaningful validation of the quality, positioning and upkeep of our office portfolio, and the strength of our tenant experience.

In retail, our portfolio continues to perform well, backed by healthy consumer demand in our trade areas. We ended the quarter 98% leased, with same store cash NOI growth of 4.5%. We executed over 220,000 square feet of new and renewal leases in Q2, with spreads increasing over 7% on a cash basis and 22% on a straight line basis. Rent collections remained strong, and all tenants on our reserve list, including At Home at Carmel Mountain Plaza, were current through Q2. Meanwhile, we’re actively engaged with At Home on a mutually beneficial lease structure moving forward for their sole location in San Diego.

In addition, in Q2, we backfilled the former Party City space at Gateway Marketplace with rents approximately 30% above prior levels. We continue to see durable demand for our retail centers, which are supported by strong local employment and favorable demographics. With limited new supply and consistent foot traffic, we expect these trends to continue. Our multifamily portfolio performed in line with expectations, and San Diego recently delivered new supply has created a more competitive leasing environment, and we are navigating elevated operating costs and increased concessions. Still, our communities demonstrated strong stability, ending the quarter approximately 94% leased.

We achieved rent increases of 7% on renewals and 4% on new leases, for a blended rent increase of 6%. Excluding our new Genesee Park acquisition, rent increases were 6% on renewals, 2% on new leases, for a 4% blended increase, and an approximately 2% increase in net effective rents compared to the same quarter last year. Occupancy at Pacific Ridge temporarily dipped just below 85% at the July due to the seasonal student turnover, but it is expected to rebound above 90% by the August. The community remains at about 92% leased right now. And as previously disclosed, we acquired Genesee Park based on our conviction in the long term fundamentals of the Coastal San Diego market, the opportunity to meaningfully mark to market rents and the potential for future densification.

We’re pleased that the asset continues to perform in line with our underwriting assumptions. Up in Portland, Hasselhoe and Eighth ended Q2 91% leased, with blended rent growth of approximately 1%. While the market continues to work through elevated supply and a slower pace of job growth, we’re encouraged by steady leasing activity and solid retention. Competition from suburban product remains a factor, but with occupancy holding in the low 90s and signs of stabilization emerging, we see plenty of room for improvement, hopefully in the quarters ahead. At our fee owned mixed use Waikiki Beach Walk in Oahu, where we are pleased to report no damage or injuries from the tsunami warning last night, NOI declined 5% compared to Q2 last year, driven by softer performance at our Embassy Suites.

While the NOI of the retail component grew 7% year over year, the hotel was down approximately 15%, reflecting lower paid occupancy and RevPAR amid ongoing softness in domestic leisure demand, heightened rate competition across Waikiki and global economic uncertainty. Elevated labor costs and room expenses also impacted margins during the quarter. That said, our Embassy Suites continue to lead its competitive set in RevPAR, underscoring the strength of the asset, its prime location, and its appeal to value driven travelers. We remain confident in the property’s long term positioning as the market stabilizes. A few final items.

I’m pleased to share the Board approved a quarterly dividend of $0.34 per share for Q3, payable on September 18 to shareholders of record as of September 4. This reflects our continued confidence in the long term stability and cash flows of the portfolio. And additionally, in Q2, we published our 2024 sustainability report, highlighting our progress and commitments across environmental, social, governance and human capital initiatives. We remain proud of the role our company plays in advancing responsible business practices. In closing, while external conditions remain dynamic, we will continue to manage with flexibility and a long term view, always grounded in the fundamentals that have served us and our portfolio well across countless cycles.

Our team is known for executing with this discipline and foresight. On behalf of the management team, including Ernest who is joining us today, thank you for your continued support.

Bob, CFO, American Assets Trust: And by the way, you guys, I think the team is doing a really good job, so I’m grateful. Thanks, Adam and Ernest, and good morning, everyone. Last night, we reported second quarter twenty twenty five FFO per share of zero five two dollars Second quarter twenty twenty five net income attributable to common stockholders per share was $09 Second quarter twenty twenty five FFO remained flat compared to Q1 twenty twenty five. However, excluding approximately 800,000 in lease termination fees recognized at q two twenty five, FFO declined by approximately 1¢ per share. The decrease primarily reflects the sale of Del Monte Center on February 2525, with two months of FFO contribution in Q1 that was no longer present in Q2.

Same store cash NOI for all sectors combined was approximately flat year over year in the ’25 compared with the same period in ’24. Breaking out Q2 out by segment and each as compared to Q2 ’twenty four. Our same store office portfolios NOI was approximately flat, primarily due to the known move out of ClearResult at first in May on April 3025. A portion of the vacated space has already been backfilled, as Adam mentioned earlier. Our same store retail portfolio’s NOI increased by 4.5%, primarily driven by commencement of new leases and contractual rent escalations at both Alamo Quarry and Carmel Mountain Plaza.

Additionally, retail portfolio also benefited from lower operating expenses at Carmel Mountain Plaza and Alamo Quarry, further contributing to the year over year growth. Our same store multifamily portfolios NOI declined by 3.9%, primarily due to lower rental income at our Haslow on Eighth property in Portland and higher operating expenses at our Pacific Ridge property in San Diego. And our same store mixed use portfolio’s NOI declined by approximately 5%, primarily driven by lower than anticipated ADR at Embassy Suites Waikiki. Specifically, and compared to Q2 twenty four, paid occupancy for Q2 twenty five was approximately flat at 86%. RevPAR for q two twenty five was $305, down 4%, though we exceeded our competitive set in q two by $62 per room.

ADR for q two twenty five was $355, down 3%. Though we expected our competitive set in q two by $86 per room. Number four, net operating income for q two twenty five was approximately 2,900,000.0, down half a million. Based on our stars reports that we see monthly, most if not all of the hotels in Waikiki are experiencing similar trends. The Japanese yen remains around a $147 to the US dollar.

Rising airfare and hotel costs are prompting some domestic travelers to reconsider trips to Hawaii instead choosing international destinations supported by a strong dollar or opting for all inclusive cruises. That said, the unique appeal, aloha spirit, and safety of Oahu and the neighboring islands continues to attract visitors. We view these headwinds as temporary and remain confident in the long term strength of Hawaii’s tourism market. Let’s talk about liquidity. As of the end of the second quarter, we had total liquidity of approximately $544,000,000 consisting of roughly 144,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents and $400,000,000 of availability under our revolving line of credit.

Additionally, our net debt to EBITDA ratio was 6.3 times on a trailing twelve month basis and 6.6 times on a quarter annualized basis. Our long term goal remains to reduce and maintain net debt to EBITDA at 5.5 times or lower. Our interest coverage and fixed charge coverage ratios were both 3.1 times on a trailing twelve month basis. Let’s talk about our ’25 guidance. We are increasing our full year 2025 guidance range to $1.89 to $2.01 per FFO share with a midpoint of a dollar 95 per FFO share, an increase of 1¢ over our initial midpoint of $1.94 This outlook reflects steady momentum across our core sectors supported by leasing activity, rent escalations and disciplined operations.

Our guidance assumes a stable environment and sustained tenant demand. Based on year to date performance and current visibility, we believe we are well positioned to meet our full year goals. While the updated guidance reflects our best estimate today, outperforming toward the high end would require several favorable developments, including first, the majority of office or retail tenants for whom we have established credit reserves must continue to meet their rent obligations throughout the year. As of q two twenty five, we have reserved approximately 2¢ per share of FFO, split evenly between office or retail tenants based on a probability weighted assessment of at risk tenants. Year to date, none of these reserves have been utilized.

Second, our multifamily segment would need to exceed expectations, driven by improved occupancy, continued rent growth, and better than forecasted expense management. Third, a meaningful recovery in tourism the last half of the year would support stronger performance at our Embassy Suites property. We remain optimistic that both domestic and international travel will improve either later this year or the years ahead. Together, these levers represent upside potential and we will continue to monitor each closely as the year progresses. As a reminder, our guidance in these prepared remarks exclude the impact of any future acquisitions, dispositions, equity issuances or repurchases and debt refinancings or repayments, except for those already discussed.

We remain committed to transparency and will continue to provide clear insights into our quarterly results and the key assumptions that inform our outlook. Additionally, please note that any non GAAP financial metrics discussed today, such as net operating income or NOI, are reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in our earnings release and supplemental materials. I’ll now turn the call back over to the operator for Q and A.

Conference Operator: We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

AJ, Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets: Hi, good morning everyone. This is AJ on for Todd. I appreciate you guys taking my question. The first one just with regards to guidance, Bob maybe for you. Are there any changes to the same store NOI growth outlook for the various segments relative to the forecast provided with initial guidance, I think back in 4Q twenty twenty four?

Just any adjustments to those assumptions?

Bob, CFO, American Assets Trust: Thanks for the question. Yeah, we’re still on track. There’s obviously noise going on with some of the termination fees that we’ve had. But from my perspective, we’re still on track. We hope to outperform what we currently have in guidance, but I don’t see any significant differences.

Adam, you have any input on that?

Adam Lyle, President and CEO, American Assets Trust: No, think we might find JJ that a few of our segments may outperform the guidance Bob gave on same store NOI and others may underperform, for instance, the hotel is not going to do as well as we expected based on what’s going on in the world these days, but office seems to be trending better. So, we’ll see how it shakes out over the last two quarters.

AJ, Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets: Okay. Appreciate that color. And Adam, sticking with you, last quarter you noted an uptick in the touring around the La Jolla Commons 3 And 1 Beach. Can you just discuss the leasing pipeline and interest level for those two specifically? Any year end leasing goals you may be able to share with us?

Adam Lyle, President and CEO, American Assets Trust: Yeah, we are seeing increased touring activity and prospects and RFP activity, but I’ll have Steve kind of chime in a little bit more on that. He’s a little more dialed in.

Steve, Executive, American Assets Trust: Sure. Starting with 1 Beach, and we had talked about it before the deal size is moving up to a point where it makes sense for us to be engaged on deals. Previously, was 2,000, 4,000, 6,000 foot spaces, our floor plates are 35,000 feet. Now you’re seeing the average deal size tick up. The greatest amount of activity is from 20,000 to 60,000 feet right now, which is right in our wheelhouse.

So to that end, in this market, you have to have spaces that are ready to go. And Adam touched on it earlier. So we’re moving forward with our plans to develop the parking and amenities on the First Floor of the building, and then to spec out improvements on the First And Second Floors in anticipation of this demand so that when they’re ready to go, they’re within a few months of moving in. So, and to that end, because we’ve made that commitment, the brokers are communicating it, and we have our segmentation breaking the building up into smaller components, our tour activities way up. In fact, we had a full building tour yesterday afternoon.

So, that’s encouraging. And then moving on to La Jolla Commons III, keep in mind our amenities aren’t even complete yet. The restaurant florette will be complete this fall, probably October, and open up and that’s a key component to attracting tenants to the campus. And then second, we have a major conference center under construction that will be completed with Jerry in September.

Bob, CFO, American Assets Trust: Absolutely. Same time frame. Yeah.

Steve, Executive, American Assets Trust: So with that, we think you’ll see acceleration in in lease up. That being said, we have three of our spec suites, one on two and two on the Fourth Floor that are under construction, that, we’re we’re deep in negotiations and space planning on for about 9% of the property. And we have some existing tenant demand that may come about with the merger of an accounting firm with another accounting firm that’s in a ten year lease with us in Tower 1 that is gonna grow past the Tower One’s ability to accommodate them. So that may bleed into Tower 3. We have a second tenant as well that’s contemplating similar growth, different situation, they’re just growing as a law firm.

And they may not be able to be fully housed in Tower 1. So, really the 09/30000 foot three building campus is coming into play, it’s not just a 200,000 foot 10 story tower, it’s a campus and it’s very dynamic. And it’s really attractive long term for some larger tenants as well, given the flexibility that comes with being part of something of that scale.

AJ, Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets: I appreciate that color. It’s really helpful. And then maybe just moving on to the, the occupancy at 14 acres increased significantly in the quarter. Can you just talk about the leasing that was completed there and maybe with the renovations completed at that asset and the other Bellevue properties that were acquired within the last few years, you know, what’s the demand response you’re seeing? Is that you know, is it as anticipated?

You know, what are the leasing goals for those assets specifically at 14 acres and Timber Spring?

Steve, Executive, American Assets Trust: Great question. We’ll start out with 14 acres. You touched on it, Jerry and I talked about it this morning. The renovation is complete. It’s beautiful.

And so with that tour activities up and we, Adam touched on, we’ve very active in developing a spec suite program there as well in all the multi tenant spaces less than full floor. And with that, we get the plans done, tenants engaged, they’ve seen the commitment to spend money on renovations. And so long story short, we’ve done several leases and we’ve got several pending for these spaces that we’ve designed and they’re really minor modifications to the spec suites that we’ve designed. So we’re moving ahead very quickly and keep in mind, this is a 44% vacant submarket with negative net absorption, and yet we’re we’ve got a lot of activity there. So, we’re excited about that.

And just to use that, you know, Todd, I’m glad Todd wrote up his remarks early because it gives me a chance to contemplate how it looks to everyone. And he noted that we went backwards by 70 basis points in terms of occupancy and he noted that the give back a clear result, we had 113,000 feet of known give backs this quarter and we accounted new leasing, we accounted for all the 28,000 feet of that. So, give backs were two basis points, we made up two ten basis points with just new leasing. So, this quarter 81% of our leases were new leases, not only comparable but non comparable. So we’ve got great leasing activity.

That’s moving on to the I-five 20 Corridor, it’s a bit healthier than the I-ninety Corridor and that’s where Bellspring 520, which is now Timber Springs and Timber Ridge are. Timber Ridge is now 97% leased with the Sci Tech lease that we just signed last quarter. And then Timber Springs is close to we’ll be approaching 87 or 88% leased for the lease. Think we just set up final draft for a full floor lease there. So, we made great progress there.

And again, that’s a negative net absorption market with higher vacancy, and yet we’re making really good progress.

AJ, Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets: Perfect. I appreciate the time. Thanks, guys.

Steve, Executive, American Assets Trust: Thanks, JJ.

Conference Operator: Next question comes from Haendel St. Juste from Mizuho.

Ravi, Analyst, Mizuho: Good morning, guys. This is Ravi on the line for Haendel. Hope you guys are doing well. I wanted to ask about the multifamily portfolio. I think I heard in your prepared remarks that the new lease spreads were below renewal spreads.

I guess that would have maybe anticipated to hear the opposite. And given the perpetual high interest rates and unaffordability with housing, I thought we would have seen maybe some heightened demand for multifamily. Can you maybe offer some further commentary and color?

Adam Lyle, President and CEO, American Assets Trust: Yeah. Hey, Ravi, it’s Adam. You know, we’re navigating different markets, So we’re in San Diego and Portland. Portland’s had a share of struggles that’s been compounded with the extra supply. So, obviously, we’re doing the best we can there.

Rents have kind of stabilized and we expect some growth later this year or into next year once the markets kind of absorb that excess supply. San Diego is a different story though, where we’ve seen like an incredible surge over the past several years and it’s starting to equalize somewhat now that there’s a lot of more supply being absorbed as well here. But maybe Abigail can add a little color on the difference between the renewals and the new rates that we’re seeing, which are still growing positively, but not as much as they had been over the past few years. Abigail, do you see anything there you can share?

Abigail, Executive, American Assets Trust: Hi, good morning. I think Adam hit the nail on the head with answering that question. In San Diego, our rental rates across the portfolio are operating a little bit higher than what we are seeing countywide. Excuse me. And with some of the properties, we have some caps that are in place, but at Pacific Ridge, we’re continuing to see some rent growth that’s favorable throughout the region where there is saturation with new supply and new product.

The good part about our property is, as mentioned before, is that we are in unbeatable locations. We’ve got irreplaceable products, experienced and knowledgeable management teams that attract residents near and far, and we maintain our communities in top order. And so I think we’ll continue to see favorable growth as much as we can and continue to thrive in this current marketplace. It’s a desirable location, and we’ve got great properties throughout.

Ravi, Analyst, Mizuho: Got it. Thanks for the color there. I wanted to ask about the the hotel in Hawaii and some of the demand drivers there. It seems like a weekend, you know, north of 145. The conversion rate between the end of dollar is weighing on, you know, demand from that market.

Is there is there a number where you think that demand will pick up? Like, is it 120? Is it 110? Is that something that you guys are kind of forecasting in terms of maybe future demand?

Adam Lyle, President and CEO, American Assets Trust: It’s really tough to predict, Ravi, as you know, Oahu’s tourism was 40% from Japan or Asia pre pandemic, and I think right now it’s kind of in the mid teens, and it’s incrementally picking up, but the dollar is getting a little weaker, so that’s helping somewhat on the margin. I think we’re anticipating more action next year, but it really remains to be seen because there’s so much going on in the world with geopolitics and economic uncertainty. We’re hopeful and we’re doing our best to kind of cater to those large Asian package groups. But I think to expect anything meaningful this year would be a stretch. Do you have anything to add to that Bob?

Bob, CFO, American Assets Trust: Yeah, Ravi, I mean, we’re down, as you noted this quarter and we’re actually, I mean, to be honest with you, we’re down, about where we were, prior to COVID, or just the beginning of COVID, which which I’m scratching my head on. But the reality is is that, you know, if if the Japanese yen is at $1.47, and we used to be at $1.00 8 pre COVID, the the median income from Japan tourism is still going to be slow. They can go, they have choices to go other places. The people that are wealthy from Japan are willing to make the strike coming out here. But having said that, I think there’s also a lot of uncertainty, you know, all the tariffs, things going on, across the world.

I think people are just taking a pause. You know, like I said in my comments, I mean, they have other choices on where to go. But also too is that I’ve noted on these star reports that we get, Ravi, which really tracks all the, comparable hotels, and we have all the comparable hotels in Waikiki. And in our competitive set, we have probably ten, twelve hotels. All, you know, it’s a combination of on the beach and off the beach.

We outperform all of them in terms of RevPAR, in terms of ADR. So I’m not overly concerned about it. I think it’s just a point in time that we’re all going through. And we’re still doing better than most of.

Ravi, Analyst, Mizuho: Got it. That’s really helpful. And and lastly, in the past, I think you’ve said that there’s about 30¢ of of leasing upside in terms of a a pipeline going forward. Maybe in segments do you think that total pipeline is expected to materialize first?

Adam Lyle, President and CEO, American Assets Trust: That $0.30 Ravi was predominantly office leasing up La Jolla Commons 31 Beach and our suburban Bellevue assets gets you to about $0.30 And I guess I could mention too that we’ve got probably 5% of our office GLA is signed leases but have not commenced yet, so there is going to be a meaningful uptick coming down the road once those rents commence.

Ravi, Analyst, Mizuho: Got it. Thanks so much, guys. Appreciate it.

Adam Lyle, President and CEO, American Assets Trust: Thanks, Robbie.

Conference Operator: Our next question comes from Reni Peyer with Green Street Advisors.

Reni Peyer, Analyst, Green Street Advisors: Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. So it seems like AAT was pretty busy on the acquisitions and dispositions front earlier this year and there’s a healthy balance of cash on the balance sheet at the moment. Any plans to put that to work? And if so, which property types or markets do you think provide the best risk adjusted returns?

Bob, CFO, American Assets Trust: We’re always looking. This is Ernest. We’re always looking. We have to find something that offers significant upside. We don’t want to spend the money just for the sake of spending the money.

And our preference is for, at the moment, not office, because we have our, our, opportunities ahead of us in office, but looking at multifamily, and we’d certainly consider retail if it became available.

Adam Lyle, President and CEO, American Assets Trust: And of course, Reni, that money is working for us in the bank earning interest right now as we evaluate options and gives us pretty solid comfort having that balance sheet strength as we look for after.

Bob, CFO, American Assets Trust: All the uncertainties in the world, that money in the bank plus the line of credit does give us some extra sleep that we wouldn’t enjoy otherwise.

Reni Peyer, Analyst, Green Street Advisors: Got it, all fair points. And then one more question, in regards to the touring activity you’re seeing at 1 Beach and I guess for San Francisco as a whole, could you talk about the tenant industries that you’re getting most touring from? Is AI starting to step up as more likely tenant for the 1 Beach asset?

Steve, Executive, American Assets Trust: That’s the primary driver of this most recent activity. Currently, mean, I think they’ve contributed 5,000,000 square feet of leasing thus far, but it’s predicted it could be as big as 25,000,000 square feet in the next few years. So it’s growing by leaps and bounds. But it’s also, you’re seeing, Databricks is an AI company as well. So, yeah, it’s largely AI, it’s technology.

On the on the law firm side, you’re actually seeing right sizing and consolidation for the most part, financial services as well. So it’s really tech driven.

Reni Peyer, Analyst, Green Street Advisors: Great. Thanks for the color. That’s all for me.

Conference Operator: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Adam Weil for any closing remarks.

Adam Lyle, President and CEO, American Assets Trust: Well, on behalf of everyone at American Assets Trust, we appreciate your support and your joining us today. Have a great week.

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