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American States Water Company reported strong financial results for the first quarter of 2025, surpassing earnings expectations with an EPS of $0.70 compared to the forecasted $0.67. The company’s revenue also exceeded projections, reaching $148.01 million against a forecast of $143.95 million. Following the announcement, the company’s stock price rose by 1.07% in after-hours trading, closing at $79.6. According to InvestingPro data, the company has maintained dividend payments for 55 consecutive years and raised its dividend for 32 consecutive years, demonstrating remarkable financial stability. Based on InvestingPro’s Fair Value analysis, the stock appears to be trading near its fair value.
Key Takeaways
- EPS for Q1 2025 came in at $0.70, beating the forecast by $0.03.
- Revenue increased by $12.7 million year-over-year.
- Stock price rose by 1.07% post-earnings announcement.
- The company authorized significant capital investments in both water and electric utilities.
Company Performance
American States Water demonstrated robust performance in Q1 2025, with consolidated earnings per share increasing from $0.62 in Q1 2024 to $0.70. The water utility segment, Golden State Water, posted an EPS of $0.52, up from $0.48, while the electric segment’s EPS rose to $0.07 from $0.05. This growth is indicative of the company’s strategic investments and operational efficiencies. InvestingPro analysis shows the company maintains a solid gross profit margin of 59.5% and a return on equity of 14%, suggesting efficient operations. Discover more insights and 12+ additional ProTips with an InvestingPro subscription.
Financial Highlights
- Revenue: $148.01 million, up $12.7 million year-over-year.
- Earnings per share: $0.70, up from $0.62 in Q1 2024.
- Water segment revenue increased by $11.7 million.
- Electric segment revenue increased by $2.8 million.
Earnings vs. Forecast
American States Water’s EPS of $0.70 exceeded the forecast of $0.67, marking a 4.5% surprise. This performance reflects the company’s ability to adapt to regulatory changes and optimize its operations, ensuring steady growth despite industry challenges.
Market Reaction
Following the earnings announcement, American States Water’s stock experienced a 1.07% increase, closing at $79.6. This movement reflects investor confidence in the company’s growth trajectory and strategic initiatives. The stock remains within its 52-week range, with a high of $87.5 and a low of $69.46, indicating stable investor sentiment. With a beta of 0.64 and a year-to-date return of 3.07%, the stock has demonstrated lower volatility than the broader market. InvestingPro subscribers can access detailed financial health scores and comprehensive valuation metrics in the Pro Research Report, available for this and 1,400+ other US stocks.
Outlook & Guidance
The company projects continued growth, forecasting EPS of $0.9 for Q2 2025 and $0.98 for Q3 2025. Revenue projections for these quarters are $170.64 million and $177.29 million, respectively. The company plans to invest heavily in infrastructure, with authorized capital investments of $573.1 million for water utilities and $75.6 million for electric utilities. According to InvestingPro data, analysts maintain a consensus recommendation of 2.75, with price targets ranging from $78 to $91. The company’s expected revenue growth of 7% for FY2025 supports its ambitious investment plans.
Executive Commentary
CEO Bob Sprowls stated, "We started 2025 with strong financial results," highlighting the company’s strategic focus on growth. Sprowls also noted, "We continue to project ASUS to contribute $0.59 to $0.63 per share this year," emphasizing the company’s commitment to achieving its financial targets. He added, "We continue to exceed our policy goal of achieving a compound annual growth rate in the dividend of more than 7% over the long term."
Risks and Challenges
- Regulatory Changes: Potential shifts in regulatory policies could impact operational costs.
- Infrastructure Investments: The scale of planned investments may strain financial resources.
- Market Competition: Increasing competition in the utility sector could pressure margins.
- Economic Conditions: Macroeconomic factors could influence consumer demand and pricing.
Q&A
During the earnings call, analysts inquired about the company’s military base privatization efforts. While no major 50-year privatizations are expected in 2025, there is potential for new contracts with the Army and Navy. The company is also exploring non-traditional 15-year contract opportunities, which may diversify its revenue streams.
Full transcript - American States Water Comp (AWR) Q1 2025:
Jamie, Conference Call Operator: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the American States Water Company’s conference call discussing the company’s first quarter twenty twenty five results. The call is being recorded. If you would like to listen to the replay of the call, it will begin this afternoon at 5PM Eastern Time and run through May 15 on the company’s website, www.aswater.com.
The slides that the company will be referring to are also available on the website. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by 0. After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press and then 1.
To withdraw your questions, you may press and 2. This call will be limited to an hour. Presenting today from American States Water Company are Bob Sprowse, president and chief executive officer and Eva Tang, senior vice president of finance and chief financial officer. As a reminder, certain matters discussed during this conference call may be forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward looking statements are not guarantees or assurances of any outcomes, financial results, levels of activity, performance, or achievements, and listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon them.
Forward looking statements are subject to estimates and assumptions and known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors. Listeners should review the description of the company’s risks and uncertainties that could affect the forward looking statements in our most recent Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Statements made on this conference call speak only as of the date of this call and except as required by law, the company does not undertake any obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statement. In addition, this conference call will include a discussion of certain measures that are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP in The United States and constitute non GAAP financial measures under SEC rules. These non GAAP financial measures are derived from consolidated financial information and are not presented in our financial statements that are prepared in accordance with GAAP.
For more details, please refer to the press release. At this time, I would like to turn the floor over to Bob Sprowls, President and Chief Executive Officer of American States Water Company.
Bob Sprowls, President and Chief Executive Officer, American States Water Company: Thank you, Jamie. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I’ll begin with a brief discussion on the quarter. Eva will then discuss some financial details, and then I’ll wrap it up with updates on regulatory activity, ASUS, dividends, and then we’ll take your questions. We started 2025 with strong financial results.
Consolidated earnings per share for the first quarter were $08 higher compared to the same quarter in 2024. Favorable variance is attributable to the receipt of final decisions from the California Public Utilities Commission, or CPUC, in the water and electric general rate cases, which authorized new water rates for 2025 to 2027, and authorized new electric rates for 2023 to 2026. These favorable variances were partially offset by higher operating expenses, a $05 per share unfavorable variance from losses incurred on our investments to fund one of the company’s retirement plans, and the dilutive effects from the issuance of equity under American States Water’s at the market offering program, which decreased consolidated earnings by $02 per share. Our regulated utilities are on pace to invest a combined 170,000,000 to $210,000,000 in infrastructure investments this year. With that, I will turn the call over to Eva to discuss earnings and liquidity.
Eva Tang, Senior Vice President of Finance and Chief Financial Officer, American States Water Company: Thank you, Bob, and hello, everyone. Let me start with our first quarter results. Recorded consolidated earnings were $0.70 per share for the quarter as compared to $0.62 per share for the first quarter of last year. For our water utility, Golden State Water reported earning were 52¢ per share compared to 48¢ per share last year. The 4¢ per share increase in 2025 was largely due to the new 2025 water rates as a result of receiving a final decision in connection with Golden State Water’s general rate case proceeding, partially offset by higher operating expenses and losses generated on investments held to fund a retirement plan as compared to gains during the same period in 2024 due to financial market conditions.
Lastly, there was a decrease in earnings of $02 per share due to the dilutive effect from the issuance of equity under AWR’s at the market offering program. Our electric segment’s earnings were $07 per share for the quarter as compared to $05 per share for the same quarter in 2024, a $02 per share increase, primarily due to receiving the final CPUC decisions on the electric general rate case with the new 2025 electric rate as compared to 2022 rates used to record revenues during the first quarter of twenty twenty four. Earnings from ASUS were $0.13 per share for the quarter, which was consistent with the same period in 2024, which Bob will discuss further. Lastly, losses from our parent company were $02 per share for the quarter when compared to losses of $03 the same quarter in 2024, due largely to a decrease in interest expense resulting from lower average interest rate and lower borrowing levels at AWR’s credit facility. Consolidated revenues for the first quarter increased by $12,700,000 when compared to the first quarter last year.
Revenues for the water segment increased by $11,700,000 largely due to new 2025 water rates as a result of receiving a final decision in Golden State Water’s general rate case proceeding. Effective 01/01/2025, Golden State Water transitioned from a full revenue decoupling mechanism to a modified rate adjustment mechanism known as the Monterey style water revenue adjustment mechanism or the NBRAM. Still water consumption for the first quarter of twenty twenty five approximated consumption levels adopted in the new 2025 rate. And, therefore, Golden State Water’s transition to the end brand did not have a material impact to revenues recorded during the first quarter. Revenue for the electric segment increased by $2,800,000 mainly due to new 2025 election rates as compared to 2022 rates used to record revenues during the first quarter of last year.
Revenues from ASUS decreased $1,800,000 primarily due to lower construction activities during the quarter as they were negatively impacted by unfavorable weather conditions, which were less impactful during q one in 2024. Turning to slide nine. Supply costs increased by $4,300,000 mostly due to an increase in customer water usage and higher overall per unit water supply cost. Also effective this year, Golden State Water transitioned from a full cost balance supply cost balancing account to an incremental cost balancing account for supply cost. As a result, Golden State Water’s earnings are now subject to favorable and unfavorable changes in the water supply source mix as compared to adopted supply source mix, reflected in the revenue requirement.
During the first quarter, our pumped water sources, which cost less than purchased water, were capable of meeting a greater portion of customer demand. However, this favorable supply cost experience found this, found the favorable supply mix during the first quarter may or may not continue during the remainder of the 2025 year. Looking at total operating expenses other than supply costs, consolidated expenses increased by $2,000,000 compared to 2024. This increase includes the impact of electric generators decision issued in January, which authorized recovery of higher operating expenses primarily for vegetation management and other wildfire mitigation efforts. These costs were previously excluded from customer rates and not expensed in the first quarter of last year, as they were being tracked in memorandum accounts.
They are now included in adopted electric revenue. In addition, the increase was due to higher overall operating expenses, partially offset by lower US construction expenses. Lastly, there was an overall decrease in other expenses other expense, net of other income, of $2,500,000 due largely to losses generated on investment held to fund a retirement plan during the quarter, as compared to gains on investments during the same quarter in 2024 due to financial market conditions. This slide shows EPS bridge comparing reported EPS for the first quarter of this year against the same period for 2024. Turning to liquidity, net cash provided by operating activity was $45,100,000 for the quarter as compared to $45,800,000 for the same quarter last year, with the change primarily due to timing of working capital items and the change in billed water consumption.
With the CPUC approved decision received for both regulated utilities in January, we have implemented new water and electric rates during the quarter. In addition, both of our utilities have either filed or received approval of various advice letters based on previously approved regulatory mechanisms to implement surcharges or additional base rates. For investing activities, our regulated utility invested $45,500,000 on company funded capital projects in the first quarter, and we will be on target to reach $170,000,000 to $210,000,000 for 2025. In terms of financing activities, American States Water, under its at market offering program, raised a proceeds of $25,800,000 during the first quarter, net of issuing costs and legal costs. In February, our electric segment completed an issuance of $50,000,000 in unsecured private placement notes that matured in 02/1930.
In addition, earlier this week, American State Water and Golden State Water executed amendments to their credit agreement to extend the credit facility term from June 2028 to June 2029. As part of this amendment, American States Water also expanded its credit facility borrowing capacity from $165,000,000 to $195,000,000. American States Water currently maintains a credit rating of A stable with Standard and Poor’s Global ratings for S and P, while Golden State Water maintains A plus stable ratings with S and P and A2 stable rating with Moody’s Investors Service. These are some of the highest credit ratings in The US Investor owned Wall ETV industry. With that, I’ll turn the call back to Bob.
Bob Sprowls, President and Chief Executive Officer, American States Water Company: Thank you, Eva. I’ll begin with Golden State Water’s general rate case. On January 30, the CPUC issued a final decision in connection with the recent general rate case covering 2025 through 2027. Final decision adopts the settlement agreement between Golden State Water and the Public Advocates Office at the CPUC, or Cal Advocates. Among other items, the decision authorizes Golden State Water to invest $573,100,000 in capital infrastructure over the three year capital cycle.
This includes $17,700,000 of advice letter capital investments to be filed for revenue recovery during the second and third year attrition increases when those projects are completed. In addition, the approved settlement agreement includes $58,200,000 of advice letter capital investments that began construction in 2023, which we expect to file for revenue recovery during the second and third year attrition increases when those projects are completed. For all of the advice letter projects, Golden State Water is allowed to accrue interest during construction at the adopted cost of debt and recover the full rate of return, including all applicable components of the revenue requirement, after the assets are placed in service up until the assets are included in customer rates. Excluding revenues for advice letter capital projects, adopted operating revenues less water supply costs for 2025 are projected to increase by approximately $23,000,000 when compared to 2024. As we mentioned previously, the final decision ordered Golden State Water to transition from a full decoupling mechanism and a full supply cost balancing account, which we again requested in the general rate case application, to a modified rate adjustment mechanism, a Monterey style water revenue adjustment mechanism, or MRAM, and an incremental cost balancing account for supply costs effective 01/01/2025.
Without the continuation of a full revenue decoupling mechanism and a full cost balancing account for water supply, the company may be subject to future volatility in revenues and earnings as a result of fluctuations in water consumption by its customers and changes in water supply source mix. Final decision also adopted the company’s MRAM rate design proposal, which authorized Golden State Water to increase the revenue requirement in its fixed service charges to between 4548% of the revenue requirement, depending on the rate making area. Representing approximately 65% of Golden State Water’s fixed cost in aggregate. As Eva mentioned earlier, billed water consumption for this first quarter was similar to consumption levels adopted in the new 2025 rates, and therefore the transition from a full revenue decoupling mechanism to the MRAM did not have a material impact to revenues recorded during the first quarter. In terms of water supply costs, in the first quarter, our pumped water sources, which cost less than purchased water, were capable of meeting a greater portion of customer demand.
However, this favorable water supply mix experienced during the first quarter may or may not continue during the remainder of the 2025 year, and our water utilities earnings will be subject to future volatility as a result of favorable and unfavorable changes in the water supply source mix compared to the adopted mix. On March fifth of this year, Golden State Water filed an application for rehearing of the CPUC’s decision in the twenty twenty five to twenty twenty seven general rate case, asserting that the final decision’s denial of Golden State Water’s revenue decoupling proposal was not supported by the record. At this time, management cannot predict the outcome of this matter. On January fourteenth of this year, the CPUC approved a request to defer the cost of capital application by one year to 05/01/2026. With the deferral, Golden State Water will retain its authorized return on equity of 10.06% and a 57% equity ratio through the end of twenty twenty six.
Turning our attention to slide 14, we present the growth in Golden State Water’s adopted average water rate base from 2018 through 2024, which increased from $752,200,000 in 2018 to $1,357,500,000 in 2024. That is a compound annual growth rate of 10.3% for the six year period, using 2018 as the base year for the calculation. Golden State Water anticipates a robust and sustained growth in its rate base over the next few years as a result of receiving its recent general rate case decision that not only authorized it to invest $573,100,000 in capital infrastructure, but in addition to that, capital investments of certain projects through advice letter filings upon completion will contribute to a further growth in rate base in the second and third year of this cycle. On January sixteenth of this year, our electric utility subsidiary received a final CPUC decision in its general rate case that approves the settlement agreement between Bear Valley Electric, Cal Advocates, and the other intervener in the proceeding in its entirety. The proceeding sets rates retroactive to 01/01/2023, and determines electric rates for the years 2023 through 2026.
The decision, among other things, allows Bear Valley Electric to invest $75,600,000 in capital infrastructure, including at least 23,100,000 of advice letter projects over the four year rate cycle, adopts a return on equity of 10% and a 57% equity ratio, and approves recovery of requested capital expenditures and incremental operating costs incurred prior to 2023 in connection with its wildfire mitigation plans. These costs were not previously included in customer rates. In addition, the settlement provides increases in the adopted operating revenues of $2,200,000 for 2025, and $3,300,000 in 2026. Similar to 2024, the rate increases for 2025 and 2026 will not be subject to an earnings test. The previously mentioned advice letter projects of at least $23,100,000 are expected to generate additional annual operating revenues of approximately $3,000,000 when the respective projects are completed, placed in service, and filed for recovery and customer rates.
These projects also accrue allowance for funds used during construction that will further increase the revenue requirement. Lastly, in April, our electric utility implemented new base rates to recover the revenue requirement associated with 11,600,000 of capital projects approved for recovery through advice letters. Let’s continue to ASUS, which contributed the same earnings per share year over year of $0.13 There was an increase in management fee revenues resulting from the commencement of water and wastewater operations in April 2024 at the new bases, Naval Air Station Patuxent River and Joint Base Cape Cod, and the resolution of various economic price adjustments at legacy bases. These increases were offset by a decrease in construction activity and higher overall operating expenses. During the quarter, construction activities were negatively impacted by unfavorable weather conditions, which we didn’t experience to the same degree last year.
The delays on construction activities are expected to be caught up during the remainder of 2025. During 2024, ASUS was awarded $56,500,000 in new capital upgrade projects on all military bases served for completion in 2024 through 2027. This is a record high for ASUS. We continue to project ASUS to contribute $0.59 to $0.63 per share this year and remain confident that we can effectively compete for new military based contract awards. I’d like to turn our attention to dividends, which remain a compelling part of our investment story.
Our Board of Directors have approved a second quarter cash dividend. Our quarterly dividend rate has grown at a compound annual growth rate, or CAGR, of 8.8% over the last five years through 2024. We continue to exceed our policy goal of achieving a compound annual growth rate in the dividend of more than 7% over the long term. I’d like to conclude our prepared remarks by thanking you for your interest in American States Water, and we’ll now turn the call over to the operator for questions.
Jamie, Conference Call Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will begin that question and answer session. If you are using a speakerphone, we do ask that you please pick up the handset prior to pressing the keys to ensure the best sound quality. Once again, that is star and then one to join the question queue. We’ll pause momentarily to assemble the roster. And our first question comes from Jonathan Reeder from Wells Fargo.
Please go ahead with your question.
Jonathan Reeder, Analyst, Wells Fargo: Hey, good morning, Bob and Eva. Congrats on a good Q1, pretty straightforward update following the year end one just two months ago. But I two quick questions for you. Eva, I know you said you raised a little more than $25,000,000 of equity via the ATM in Q1. Are you still expecting to raise about $60,000,000 over the full year 2025?
Eva Tang, Senior Vice President of Finance and Chief Financial Officer, American States Water Company: Yeah. I think in in terms of full year, 60,000,000 probably is our target. But, you know, right now we have some capacity in our credit facility, and so we’ll reassess how much we need needed from the market for this year. But over the three year vacate cycle, we plan to do the $200,000,000 We already did, I want to say, 190,000,000, dollars 1 hundred and 70 million, oh, no, dollars 117,000,000 so far. So we still have a total $83,000,000 to $85,000,000 left, Johnson.
So we’re playing out for this next two years.
Jonathan Reeder, Analyst, Wells Fargo: Okay, so think of it as that 85,000,000 now spread out over two years kind of.
Eva Tang, Senior Vice President of Finance and Chief Financial Officer, American States Water Company: Probably. Okay.
Jonathan Reeder, Analyst, Wells Fargo: What about on ASUS? Bob, is there any update on new military based privatization efforts? Are there any bases that have come up for RFP that are progressing and we could get some sort of decision in, you know, the next couple years or, you know, has, I guess, the Trump administration’s, you know, efforts around those or anything impacted the way you see that business evolving either, you know, more privatizations occurring or consolidation of bases or kind of anything like that?
Bob Sprowls, President and Chief Executive Officer, American States Water Company: Yes. Hello, Jonathan. Hope you’re doing well. Yeah, so on the military front, as we’ve talked in the past, we sort of bifurcate the military program by a branch, and so we’ve got the Army, the Air Force, and the Navy. Do we see any actual privatizations in 2025?
There are no fifty year privatizations out on the street at this point, so the expectation there is we probably won’t see a privatization this year, in fact, an award is what I would say. We do expect the Army to be putting perhaps one or two privatizations up later this year, although things are a little bit in a state of flux there, not from a, Hey, we’ve heard this or we’ve heard that, it’s just more us trying to read the tea leaves that everyone else is reading. I’m not sure that means we’re going to see a slowdown or an increase, but we recognize that we have a new administration in office and it could have an impact on military based privatizations. We’re not sure which direction either at this point, but it looks like the Army is sort of completed, they’re in the process of completing their assessment. Approximately a year ago, our team was at a presentation where they were talking very favorably about doing, sort of cranking back up the privatization program.
As you may know, the Army had sort of taken a pause since the end of twenty twenty on that program. We think the Air Force is perhaps a little bit behind the Army in reinstituting their program, but the Navy has been, I would say, the most excited about the program, and as you know, they’ve done a couple of privatizations, one of which is the Patuxent River that we had won. And then we have the JVCC contract, which is a fifteen year contract, and it’s possible we’ll see something similar to that that could get worked on during 2025, but it’s not entirely clear about that. So there’s a number of irons in the fire, some nontraditional. Those nontraditional are a little more difficult to bring to closure.
Similar to like JBCC, we had spent quite a bit of time on that, but we’re glad to have that contract, and it’s sort of a new contracting vehicle that is available to the Department of Defense at this point. We’re proud that we know how to make that work, and perhaps that gives us a leg up on the competition, at least on those kinds of privatizations. That was a long winded answer. Happy to expand. Hopefully I answered your question.
Jonathan Reeder, Analyst, Wells Fargo: No, that was a great answer. Was a lot more detail and good detail than I was anticipating, so I’m kind of chuckling a little bit, but I thank you for it, Bob. Just following up.
Bob Sprowls, President and Chief Executive Officer, American States Water Company: I don’t expand. Well, must be a rough morning for me.
Jonathan Reeder, Analyst, Wells Fargo: No, mean, I love when management teams give real answers to questions. It’s refreshing.
Bob Sprowls, President and Chief Executive Officer, American States Water Company: Yeah, that’s kind of where we’re at, Jonathan. I mean, as you know, there’s uncertainty at the DoD right now, and as there is at a lot of different government agencies, but so far everything’s going fine on the basis we have, and we continue to make a lot of sales calls, so that’s always important.
Jonathan Reeder, Analyst, Wells Fargo: Yeah, on those nontraditional, like kind of the fifteen year contracts, do those tend to be, or do they necessarily have to be, like kind of the smaller bases out there, whereas the larger ones would always go to the fifty year variety or not necessarily?
Bob Sprowls, President and Chief Executive Officer, American States Water Company: Yeah, I think the fifteen year variety is, I think it’s just a little easier for the bases to get their arms around. Fifty years is a long time. Obviously, we like the fifty year contracts. Those are very, very well run privatizations by the defense logistics agency energy, very efficient bidding processes. Exchange for services, the one we did at JBCC took a long time, and we kind of invented, us and JBC sort of invented a roadmap for that, and now it’s, I guess, another tool in the tool belt for the government that maybe might make it easier for them to sign up to a fifteen year contract than a fifty year contract.
So we’ll see if there’s those kinds of things out there. We are pursuing at least one of those, and then we’re also seeing other, I want to say, nontraditional type privatizations that will take probably several years to run to ground if in fact they come to fruition. So I guess my point is it’s not just the fifty year utility privatization template, but we do hope that the Army and the Air Force are back pursuing that.
Jonathan Reeder, Analyst, Wells Fargo: Got it, okay, well good luck as you pursue those contracts and continue executing on the regulatory front. You can at least take a little bit of pause, be in between all the rate cases and the cost of capital extension. That’s good from a regulatory risk perspective. But thanks for the update and the time.
Bob Sprowls, President and Chief Executive Officer, American States Water Company: Yeah, thank you, Jonathan. A little activity on the regulatory front this year so far, so that’s nice. Last year was a lot of work and a lot of Well, I mean, think we got two good decisions, and you just gotta work hard on those things and try to get settlements, and we think we got a couple good ones. So thank you for your questions. Okay, well Jamie, if we aren’t getting any other questions, we can wrap it up.
Is that okay?
Jamie, Conference Call Operator: Absolutely. With no further questions, I’ll turn the floor back over to you Mr. Sprouse for closing remarks.
Bob Sprowls, President and Chief Executive Officer, American States Water Company: Thank you, Jamie. I just want to thank everyone today for their participation and say that we look forward to speaking with you next quarter.
Jamie, Conference Call Operator: A good rest
Bob Sprowls, President and Chief Executive Officer, American States Water Company: of your week, everybody.
Jamie, Conference Call Operator: And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we’ll conclude today’s conference call and presentation. We do thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.
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