Earnings call transcript: American Superconductor Q2 2025 sees EPS beat, stock tumbles

American Superconductor Corporation (AMSC) reported its financial results for the second quarter of fiscal year 2025, showcasing a notable earnings per share (EPS) beat but a significant revenue miss. The company’s EPS reached $0.20, surpassing the forecast of $0.15 by 33.33%. Despite this, AMSC’s revenue fell short of expectations at $54.34 million against a forecast of $67.85 million, a 19.91% shortfall. In response, AMSC’s stock experienced a dramatic decline, falling 35.09% to $38.57 in after-hours trading, marking a significant shift from its previous close of $59.42.

Key Takeaways

• AMSC’s EPS exceeded expectations by 33.33%, reaching $0.20.
• Revenue fell short by 19.91%, coming in at $54.34 million.
• The stock dropped 35.09% in after-hours trading.
• The grid business contributed 83% of revenues, growing 16% year-over-year.
• AMSC secured a new U.S. Navy contract, expanding its product offerings.

Company Performance

American Superconductor demonstrated mixed performance in Q2 2025. While the company’s EPS exceeded expectations, the lower-than-expected revenue reflects challenges in meeting market forecasts. Notably, the grid business remained a strong revenue driver, accounting for 83% of total revenues and growing 16% year-over-year. The wind business, though smaller in scale, showed impressive growth of 53% year-over-year.

Financial Highlights

• Revenue: $54.34 million, missing the forecast of $67.85 million.
• Earnings per share: $0.20, beating the forecast of $0.15.
• Gross margin: 31%, up by 2 percentage points year-over-year.
• Non-GAAP net income: $8.9 million.
• Cash position: $218.8 million.

Earnings vs. Forecast

AMSC exceeded EPS expectations with a reported $0.20 against a forecast of $0.15, a 33.33% surprise. However, the revenue miss of 19.91% was significant, with actual figures at $54.34 million compared to the $67.85 million forecast. This disparity highlights the challenges AMSC faces in revenue generation despite maintaining profitability.

Market Reaction

Following the earnings announcement, AMSC’s stock plummeted by 35.09% to $38.57 in after-hours trading. This decline reflects investor concerns over the revenue miss and its potential implications for future growth. The stock’s performance contrasts sharply with its 52-week high of $70.49, indicating a substantial loss in investor confidence.

Outlook & Guidance

Looking forward, AMSC anticipates Q3 FY2025 revenue between $65 million and $70 million, with expected net income exceeding $2 million. The company projects continued growth in its military and data center businesses, with a strong order backlog exceeding $200 million.

Executive Commentary

CEO Daniel McGahn emphasized the company’s strategic positioning, stating, "We are being designed into more and more projects where our proprietary technology has become the go-to solution." He expressed confidence in the company’s trajectory, noting, "Everything is at our back right now."

Risks and Challenges

• Revenue shortfall poses a risk to investor confidence.
• Market volatility and stock price fluctuations may impact future capital raising.
• Increased competition in the renewable energy sector.
• Potential supply chain disruptions affecting production timelines.
• Dependence on military contracts for revenue growth.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts inquired about AMSC’s potential entry into the data center market and the expansion of its military business. The company highlighted ongoing positive trends in semiconductor market orders and reiterated its focus on diversifying revenue streams.

Full transcript - American Superconductor Corporation (AMSC) Q2 2026:

Jason, Conference Operator: Good morning and welcome to the AMSC Second Quarter Fiscal 2025 Financial Results Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today’s remarks, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I’d now like to turn the conference over to Nicole Golez, Director of Communications. Please go ahead.

Nicole Golez, Director of Communications, AMSC: Thank you, Jason. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to American Superconductor Corporation’s second quarter of fiscal year 2025 conference call. I am Nicole Golez, AMSC’s Director of Communications. Joining me today are Daniel McGahn, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, and John Kosiba, Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Treasurer. Yesterday, after the market closed, American Superconductor issued its earnings release for the second quarter of fiscal year 2025. A copy of this release is available on the investors’ page of the company’s website at www.AMSC.com. During today’s call, remarks that management may make about American Superconductor’s future expectations, including expectations regarding the company’s future financial results, plans, and prospects, constitute forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by such forward-looking statements as a result of various factors, including those set forth in the risk factor.

Section of American Superconductor’s Form 10-K for the year ended March 31, 2025, which the company filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on May 21, 2025, as well as their other filings, all of which are available on our website. The company disclaims any obligation to update these forward-looking statements. On today’s call, management will refer to non-GAAP net income, a non-GAAP financial measure. Tables of reconciliation of GAAP to adjusted financial measures can be found in the company’s earnings release. With that, I will now turn the call over to Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Daniel McGahn. Daniel.

Daniel McGahn, Chairman, President and CEO, AMSC: Thanks, Nicole, and good morning, everyone. I will begin today by providing an update and sharing a few remarks on our business. John Kosiba will then provide a detailed review of our financial results for the second fiscal quarter, which ended September 30, 2025. He will provide guidance for the third fiscal quarter, which will end December 31, 2025. Following our comments, we’ll open up the line to questions from our analysts. We executed another quarter of strong results with revenue of nearly $66 million. This is our third consecutive quarter performing at this higher revenue level. Second quarter revenue grew more than 20% year over year, reflecting strong execution across our grid and wind businesses. Our grid business delivered strong growth of over 15% compared to last year’s quarter. Our wind business also posted impressive growth of over 50% from the year-ago period.

We delivered our fifth consecutive quarter of profitability and our ninth consecutive quarter of non-GAAP profitability. Gross margins topped 30% again. We closed the quarter with a strong balance sheet of over $215 million in cash. Overall, we posted a quarter of very strong results. The business is growing. Revenue came from a broad mix of sectors. About one quarter of our sales came from traditional energy projects, with another quarter from renewable energy projects. Materials projects, which include semiconductor, accounted for over one fifth, while military and other industrial sectors made up the remaining portion. This diverse mix of revenue reflects the growing demand across our end markets and the reach of our technology. We are being designed into more and more projects where our proprietary technology has become the go-to solution, which is a great validation of the value we bring.

Our technology has gained a strong foothold across multiple sectors. I’ll now turn the call over to John Kosiba to review our financial results for the second quarter of fiscal 2025 and provide guidance for the third quarter of fiscal 2025, which will end December 31, 2025. John.

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Thanks, Daniel. Good morning, everyone. AMSC generated revenues of $65.9 million for the second quarter of fiscal 2025, compared to $54.5 million in the year-ago quarter. Our grid business unit accounted for 83% of total revenues, while our wind business unit accounted for 17%. Grid business unit revenues increased by 16% in the second quarter versus the year-ago quarter. The increase in revenue was primarily driven by the organic growth within our new energy product lines. Wind business unit revenues increased by 53% over the same time period. The increase in revenue was primarily driven by additional shipments of electrical control systems. Looking at the P&L in more detail, gross margin for the second quarter of fiscal 2025 was 31%, compared to 29% in the year-ago quarter. This increase in gross margin was primarily due to a favorable product mix, particularly within our grid business unit.

This is now two consecutive quarters with gross margins exceeding 30%. Now moving on to operating expenses. R&D and SG&A expenses for the second quarter of fiscal 2025 were $17.1 million compared to $13.2 million in the year-ago quarter. This increase is primarily driven by the incremental NWL operating expenses and higher stock compensation expense. Approximately 21% of R&D and SG&A expenses in the second quarter of fiscal 2025 were non-cash. We generated non-GAAP net income for the second quarter of fiscal 2025 of $8.9 million, or $0.20 per share, compared with a non-GAAP net income of $10 million, or $0.27 per share in the year-ago quarter. Our net income on the second quarter of fiscal 2025 was $4.8 million, or $0.11 per share. This compares to net income of $4.9 million, or $0.13 per share in the year-ago quarter.

Included in both net income and non-GAAP net income in the year-ago quarter was the release of a $5.1 million valuation allowance due to the recording of the deferred tax liability from the acquisition of NWL. This was a non-cash benefit in last year’s results. Please see our press release issued last night for a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results. We ended the second quarter of fiscal 2025 with $218.8 million in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash. We generated operating cash flow in the second quarter of fiscal 2025 of $6.5 million. Now turning to our financial guidance for the third quarter of fiscal 2025. We expect that our revenues will be in the range of $65-$70 million.

Our net income on that revenue is expected to exceed $2 million, or $0.05 per share, and our non-GAAP net income is expected to exceed $6 million, or $0.14 per share. With that, I’ll turn the call back over to Daniel.

Daniel McGahn, Chairman, President and CEO, AMSC: Thanks, John. We have sustained an average quarterly revenue above $65 million for the past three quarters. You can see we are bullish with our expectation that this trend could continue next quarter. As is common in our business, timing plays a key role in quarterly results. Some quarters benefit from accelerated timing of projects or earlier deliveries. Others see projects shift into the next quarter or next period. Typically, our 12-month backlog represents about nine months of business. The team is always selling projects out six, nine, or twelve months, and in some cases, beyond twelve months. Our lead times have been reduced for the overall business. We see this as a competitive advantage. We are growing. We are executing with discipline and focus, and we have tremendous tailwinds at our back. Our results reflect our progress in scaling the business, diversifying revenue, and driving outstanding financial performance.

For our second quarter, we saw strong order demand across energy and military markets. Most of our orders came from traditional energy and renewables, making up nearly 65% of total orders. Military followed at roughly 15%, with the rest driven by materials such as metals, mining, and as well as other markets. This demand is supported by powerful tailwinds across multiple sectors, with significant investments projected for 2025. In energy, traditional energy like oil and gas are expected to see over $1 trillion in capital spending, while renewables are attracting more than $750 billion. International growth, particularly in renewables, adds another layer of long-term opportunity. In materials, the global mining project pipeline exceeds $1 trillion. Investments in semiconductors and global data centers together are expected to top $650 billion. In military, defense spending is projected to reach nearly $3 trillion. These sectors represent massive long-term capital investments.

We believe we are well positioned to benefit with our broad product portfolio across power electronics, grid infrastructure, and military systems. We see steady growth in demand. Over the past four quarters, we’ve averaged over $60 million in new orders per quarter. That is an improvement from the prior four quarters, which averaged over $45 million per quarter when we exclude the exceptional order we received from the Royal Canadian Navy. We closed the quarter with a strong pipeline of opportunities and a 12-month backlog of well over $200 million. We did win a new contract with the U.S. Navy to begin design for a whole new class of product. That we will hopefully talk about in the future. As we look ahead, we did mention last quarter about a coming acceleration in our military business. We see this coming.

We expect revenue to be driven by strong activity in materials, particularly semiconductors, along with increasing investments in data center infrastructure. We may even see another acceleration in the coming quarters in this part of our business. We are benefiting from power-intensive materials manufacturing. These are the feedstocks of the future. Our semiconductor offering performs exceptionally well, helping protect fabs from power variability and supporting the rapid build-out we’re seeing in that market. We are just beginning in data centers. We have served grid projects to help support a more resilient grid and now hope to begin to deliver directly to data center construction projects. In addition, we’ve broadened our reach beyond renewables to include traditional energy projects. That diversification is making our business stronger and more resilient across multiple sectors.

We are prepared to capitalize on the growing demand for energy and the need for a stable grid to support it. We are excited about the future. We believe we’re exceptionally well positioned to capitalize on the opportunities ahead. After an acceleration in the first quarter, the business performed nicely in the second quarter. We are guiding to another strong quarter ahead. Our third quarter is off to a great start, supported by healthy new orders. The business is seeing tailwinds across the energy and materials markets. Expansion in materials capacity and build-out of data centers could further accelerate this part of our business. Given our backlog and balance sheet, the business is very well positioned for what might lie ahead. Our future-facing technologies help harmonize the world’s desire for decarbonization and clean energy with the need for more reliable, effective, and efficient power delivery.

I look forward to reporting to you again following the completion of our third fiscal quarter of 2025. Jason, we will now take questions from our analysts.

Jason, Conference Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch-tone phone. If you’re using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Our first question comes from Eric Stein from Craig-Hallum. Please go ahead.

Eric Stein, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Hi, Daniel. Hi, John.

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Eric, good morning.

Eric Stein, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Good morning.

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Good morning.

Eric Stein, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Wondering if we could start. Obviously, you talked about you’ve been above $60-$65 million here for a couple quarters, and the typical cadence of your business has been you’re at a level, those orders pick up, you see that, then your revenues obviously pick up. I’m just curious, thoughts, given your macro tailwinds, how you’re positioned, expanded offering, what you’re seeing on the order front, and what that implies about kind of that next step up for the company.

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Yeah, I think the next step is going to be determined on how all this cadence comes together at a single point in time. We do see an acceleration coming in military, not only from new orders that I mentioned, but also based upon the more complete offering that we now have, not only protecting ships, but powering ships and powering the construction of ships. There are a bunch of opportunities there for us. I did mention that we do see a potential acceleration, kind of similar like we did in Q1 with semiconductor build-out. We have a pretty robust pipeline and backlog of orders there. In data centers, we hope to announce at some point in the relatively near future that we have delivered on our first project to the construction of a data center.

We think that opens up a whole nother opportunity for us, but it’s very early days there. I think it’s always hard for me to tell you definitively what it’s going to look like to get to 75 or to 80 and beyond. I think when you look at the macro environment that we’re in, everything is at our back right now. We see that with the pipeline. We see that with the cadence of the orders. We see that the operation is being able to deliver timely to customers. I mentioned that our lead times are shrinking. That’s a good sign, I think, in our business. It gives us a competitive advantage, we think. As we start today, we think that the opportunities for us are bigger and brighter than they were even a quarter ago.

Eric Stein, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Got it. Maybe just digging in on the data center piece. I mean, obviously, top of mind in the market. I know it’s early days, but I mean, is that something that you envision eventually becomes where you’re specked in like you have been with some of the semiconductor fabs with that data center provider?

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Yeah, I think that’s where we’re hoping to go. I don’t know how long it will take. When you think about design wins, we’re specked in a variety of systems for the military. We’re specked into a number of chip makers for fabs. We don’t talk a lot, but we’re specked into a lot of utilities. Where our products are things that they can basically purchase on order as opposed to doing a whole design work and selling them on the efficacy of the technology. That’s been a huge transformation of the pipeline for utilities. Some of that’s driven by data center. Really, the data center impact on the grid. Now we’re seeing that EPCs that we’ve worked with for many years are getting more and more involved with data centers, and they’re attempting to pull us along with them.

Our hope is that customers that are very familiar with us, as they get more involved with construction of data centers, are going to turn to us like they have in other industries. As a known and trusted supplier. We think there is a very nice opportunity there. How long it takes to pay off, I do not know. I think what we are optimistic is that there are so many positive signs in our business. The business should continue to improve. I understand always the question is the cadence, and you have it right. We have gotten to a level. This is a great level for us to be at. I think we finally demonstrated the level of profitability we can get at this level. Now we are looking to kind of continue to push with our key customers to expand our order book.

I see that coming in the coming quarters.

Eric Stein, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Okay, thanks.

Jason, Conference Operator: Our next question comes from Colin Rush from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Colin Rush, Analyst, Oppenheimer: Thanks so much, guys. Given some of your advantages around having compact form factors, your ability to deal with high voltage and some noisy power, along with some of the expertise that you guys have around DC to DC architectures and where the data centers are going in terms of how they’re being built out, can you just talk a little bit about how you see your competitive advantage in that data center opportunity, given where the technology has headed and some of the legacy IP that you guys bring to the table?

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Have you been on some of our sales calls recently, Colin?

Colin Rush, Analyst, Oppenheimer: I mean, listen, we see the alignment, but.

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Yeah, but I mean.

Colin Rush, Analyst, Oppenheimer: What you’re hearing from.

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: You’re talking about kind of how we go about marketing what we have. I think the idea of noisy, less resilient grids are a key in the data center market. I think first and foremost, what we’ve really discovered is a lot of it’s about time and speed. Being able to build things quickly, being able to focus on lead time, being able to focus on our supply chain, if that part of the business starts to ramp. That’s been, I’ll say, something that the team has had some focus on. I hope that we can talk about more specifically what we’re doing. I think as we kind of figure out where our fit is, I think that there is an opportunity for an offering across our businesses. Not thinking the individual elements, but a combined offering.

I think order sizes could be quite large in the data center area. You have it right. It is about the noisiness of the system, and it is about quieting it quickly and being able to deliver stuff to site that fits in well. You mentioned the compact nature of it. The speed and size is kind of really paramount, we think, in this application. That is really the strength of our technology.

Colin Rush, Analyst, Oppenheimer: That’s super helpful. Kind of broadly speaking, the customer base is diversified. Your end market exposure is diversified. The military history here is pretty meaningful for the company in terms of what your opportunity set is. Can you talk a little bit about, you’ve got the ship protection system business, but there’s also the port opportunity. How much progress are you making around the non-ship military exposure in terms of resilience for some of the infrastructure that the Department of Defense is looking for and its kind of asset base over the course of the next, call it, four to five years?

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Yeah, there’s kind of three flavors to what we’re offering. There’s the protection, which is the superconductor-enabled technology. There’s power and critical ship systems, which we have a number of design wins there. Many of the ships that we’re on with power supplies are the same size or bigger than what we’re doing in protection. That is a very important part of the business. The third part, as you mentioned, for ports or for construction, that’s an area that we see acceleration potentially coming. We’re designed in for, I’ll say, a number of ship makers. We’ve been able to take the relationships we have in helping to build the ship with capability to now powering the capacity to build those ships. That is an area that there’s investment that is forthcoming.

There are pieces of our backlog that represent that, but we think that there’s some order pipeline that can help that grow. That is why last quarter, this quarter, I see the signals of an acceleration on the military side coming. I think, again, to go back to the previous question, for us, it’s always hard to kind of predict when the timing comes. We know when need dates are. We know what our build cycle is going to be. We try to map those two together for the customer and deliver what they need when they need it.

Colin Rush, Analyst, Oppenheimer: Thanks so much, Dan.

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Thanks, Colin.

Jason, Conference Operator: Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. Our next question comes from Justin Claire from Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Eric Stein, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Hi, good morning. Thanks for the time.

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Good morning, Justin.

Eric Stein, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Sure.

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Morning. I guess I also wanted to just follow up on the data center opportunity and just wanted to see, are you currently engaged with utilities on that opportunity or data center developers? I am wondering if that is something you see as more at the substation level, or do you see the ability to kind of offer a solution within the data center? Any added detail you could share on the specifics of the solution that might be a good fit for that end market? Yeah, I think the good news today, and maybe I can say it more clear than the last quarter, is that the answer to your question is D, all the above. We started with the relationships with utilities to be able to fortify the grid. Challenges that are happening on the grid side.

Because of the rapid build-out and demand for power from data centers, we’re now seeing bids where there’s direct offering to the construction of a data center that will be directly with the developer. In many cases, it’s an engineering procurement construction company that knows us well, that we know well. That puts us in a good position where we’re not trying to sell the efficacy of technology. It’s more about lead time and how can we get product into the field faster. The feature set, it’s really, and that’s what we’re talking about with the previous question, it’s really managing the noisiness that can come from the grid or can cause disruptions for the data center. It’s very similar to.

Not quite identical, but similar to what we do for a semiconductor fab, where you’re trying to deal with the speed of transient changes in the power flow. Those are even more power amount and more critical for data centers even than a semi fab. As they’re trying to build those out more rapidly, they’re trying to find simple solutions for their problems that they can get to quickly. That’s why we’re excited about it. I hope to talk about that market more in the future. I think it is early for us, but I’m hoping that we talk about some wins and some deliveries in the coming quarters.

Eric Stein, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Okay, great. You mentioned the semiconductor market and the orders there. I’m wondering for the data center end market here, would you anticipate the order sizes being similar to those in the semiconductor market? I guess while we’re on it, I wonder if you could just speak to the trend in orders for semis. It sounds like historically those order sizes have been increasing. Is that trend continuing at this point?

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: Yeah, simple order of magnitude with the semiconductor fab, we offer anywhere from $2 million-$10 million of content. We’ve gotten orders within those ranges to the low end and certainly to the high end. That’s what’s helped, I think, the financials and the scale there. On the data center side, we have projects that are exactly in that same range and larger. I think that what we need to do is kind of crawl before we walk and walk before we run. We want to get to the point where we can deliver, we’ll say, first systems into the construction of data center. And then I think the opportunity there is certainly possible for larger and larger order sizes. I don’t know what those will be until we get them, but certainly we hope to be able to talk about those in the future.

Eric Stein, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Got it. Okay. Just one more follow-up on the military business. You mentioned that you had won a new contract with the U.S. Navy for a new class of ship. I’m wondering, did that show up in the backlog this quarter, or is that something you anticipate in the future? Just thinking through the magnitude of the potential impact, you’ve been on one class of ship so far. If you’re seeing a new class of ship now, could you potentially double the ship protection business? Any sense for the magnitude of the impact here would be helpful.

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: The contract that we won is for the design of a completely new class of product, not for protection. The order of magnitude of it is greater than ship protection, but the time it will take to develop and deliver and test and qualify, that’s not in the immediate future. We’re at a step where we’re looking to design, look to be able to understand what the value and the efficacy are there, and then get into the point where you do pre-production product and do all the things we’ve had to do on the protection side. I don’t want to get people so excited that in the coming quarters, you’re going to see that driving a ramp in the military part of our business.

What’s going to drive the ramp in our military business is more powering ship systems and powering the port and the construction of ships. That’s what we see kind of in the very near term. Part of why I’m not, we don’t put a press release out about this order and things is because I don’t want people asking for an update every quarter, every year where we are. A lot of the technology that we’re going to work on for the U.S. military will be at a level of clearance. We’re not going to be able to talk about it. We’re wildly excited within the company on this win. It’s been many years in the making. There’s been a whole huge team that’s been after it. This has been a big part of their drive and desire to help diversify our offering for the U.S. Navy.

We’re really just at a design point. We think we have the right idea. We think it’s a long-term fit for the U.S. Navy, but it will take time to go through all the process steps to eventually get into something in production that delivers real revenue.

Eric Stein, Analyst, Craig-Hallum: Okay. Got it. Appreciate it. Thanks.

Jason, Conference Operator: There are no more questions in the queue. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Daniel McGahn for any closing remarks.

John Kosiba, Senior VP, CFO and Treasurer, AMSC: We’re really excited in the company, and I hope that comes through. I think every quarter as we go and be able to put up great numbers again just bolsters our confidence, the ability to deliver products to great customers. In just one year, we’ve moved from break-even to meaningful and consistent profitability. We’re incredibly proud of that. We believe that’s a strong indicator of how the business is scaling and how we’re executing across our core markets. We’re highly confident in our direction and look forward to building on this progress in the quarters ahead. The market is enabling extraordinary opportunities for us. We hope to be able to talk to you about progress in future quarters on those as well. Thank you for your time and your patience with us, and we’ll talk to you soon.

Jason, Conference Operator: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.

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