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Cadeler (CADLR) reported its Q3 2025 earnings, showcasing significant financial and operational achievements. The company's revenue for the quarter reached €154.3 million, with an EBITDA of €109.1 million, more than doubling from the previous year. Despite the absence of specific earnings per share data, Cadeler's financial performance and strategic initiatives were well-received by the market, as reflected in a slight stock price increase of 0.37% to €43.38. The company maintained its 2025 financial outlook, emphasizing strong near-term prospects and a record high backlog of €2.9 billion.
Key Takeaways
- Q3 2025 revenue reached €154.3 million, with EBITDA more than doubling year-over-year.
- Cadeler's stock price increased by 0.37%, reflecting positive market sentiment.
- The company maintained its 2025 financial outlook with a strong backlog of €2.9 billion.
- High vessel utilization at 92% and expansion across key global markets.
- Anticipated vessel undersupply towards the end of the decade.
Company Performance
Cadeler demonstrated robust performance in Q3 2025, with significant revenue growth and operational efficiency. The company's EBITDA more than doubled compared to the previous year, highlighting improved profitability. Cadeler's operations spanned the U.S., Europe, and Asia, with high vessel utilization rates of 92%, underscoring its strong market presence and execution capabilities.
Financial Highlights
- Revenue: €154.3 million, a substantial increase from the previous year.
- EBITDA: €109.1 million, more than doubling year-over-year.
- Cash flow from operations: €214 million.
- Market capitalization: €1.4 billion.
- Equity ratio: 47.3%.
Outlook & Guidance
Cadeler maintained its financial outlook for 2025, supported by a strong order backlog and anticipated market growth. The company expects balanced work in 2027-2028 and a market pickup in 2029. Upcoming projects, such as the delivery of Wind Mover in Q4 2025 and Wind Base in Q3 2026, align with its strategic focus on expanding its fleet and capabilities.
Executive Commentary
CEO Mikkel Gleerup highlighted the expected vessel undersupply towards the decade's end, emphasizing the importance of having the best assets to drive project efficiency. Gleerup also noted that client discussions prioritize reliability and backup capabilities over pricing, reinforcing Cadeler's competitive positioning.
Risks and Challenges
- Potential vessel undersupply could impact project timelines and costs.
- Pricing pressures in Europe anticipated in 2028.
- Macroeconomic factors and geopolitical tensions affecting global markets.
- Supply chain disruptions could delay new builds and upgrades.
- Competition in the offshore wind installation market intensifying.
Q&A
During the earnings call, analysts inquired about project volumes for 2029-2030, with Cadeler expressing confidence in future demand. Concerns about pricing pressures and the importance of asset quality were also addressed, with the company reiterating its focus on delivering reliable and efficient solutions.
Cadeler's strong performance in Q3 2025, coupled with its strategic initiatives and robust backlog, positions it well for continued growth in the expanding offshore wind market.
Full transcript - Cadeler As (CADLR) Q3 2025:
Earnings Call Moderator, Cadeler: Good morning and welcome to Cadeler's third quarter 2025 earnings presentation. Presenting today are Mikkel Gleerup, Chief Executive Officer, and Peter Brøgaard, Chief Financial Officer. Please be reminded that the presenters' remarks today will include forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated. The risks and uncertainties that could cause Cadeler's results to differ materially from today's forward-looking statements include those detailed in Cadeler's annual report on Form 20F, on file with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission. Any forward-looking statements made this morning are based on assumptions as of today, and Cadeler undertakes no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. This morning's presentation includes both IFRS and certain non-IFRS financial measures. A reconciliation of non-IFRS financial measures to the nearest IFRS equivalent is provided in Cadeler's annual report.
The annual report and today's earnings presentation are available on Cadeler's website at cadeler.com/investor. We ask that you please hold all questions until the completion of the formal remarks, at which time you will be given instructions for the question and answer session. As a reminder, this call is being recorded today. If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time. Mikkel Gleerup, you may begin.
Mikkel Gleerup, Chief Executive Officer, Cadeler: Thank you very much and welcome to this Q3 presentation from Cadeler. Thanks for everybody who's dialing in for listening to us today. With me today, I have Peter as normal, and Peter will take you through the financial section of the presentation. Just the standard disclaimer, and we can say that this quarter, the highlights of the third quarter of 2025, we can say that it has been financial performance in line with our expectations. We have in this quarter also signed the third full scope foundation TNI contract and also two turbine installation TNI contracts. We have delivered three of our four new builds scheduled for delivery in 2025 already, and we have the remaining new build, the Wind Mover, on track for delivery, and she is delivering current expectations within the next couple of weeks. We have had very strong utilization in the third quarter.
We have had 92% utilization, and we believe that, as we have always said, that that is a strong measure of our business, and we are working across the globe in both the U.S., in Europe, and in Asia. We are continuing with very strong execution. We have the Wind Ally currently mobilizing for the Hornsea 3 Foundation TNI project, and we have the Wind Keeper now here in Denmark at the Fjord in Odense, upgrading before she is embarking on her long-term contract with Vestas. In terms of commercial highlights of the third quarter 2025, the vessels have been working out there, and we are starting with the Wind Orca that has been performing work on the Hywind Rite project for Vestas. The Wind Osprey has done an O&M campaign for Vestas and are now installing a wind turbine installation project on Baltic Power in Poland.
Zille has continued to work on Revolution Wind in the U.S. for Ørsted, and Wind Keeper completed an O&M campaign in Asia and are now getting ready for her next assignments in the next year. The Wind Peak is also continuing to install on the Sofia wind farm owned by Ørsted, where we are working for Siemens Gamesa. Wind Maker is working on Greater Changhua in Asia for Ørsted, and Wind Pace have been executing an O&M campaign basically since she was delivered from the yard, and she's working for GE Vernova. The Wind Keeper, as I said, has arrived in Denmark on schedule and is currently undertaking a complex upgrade scope, and we do believe that we will see her on project in the first quarter next year.
Wind Ally delivered seven weeks ahead of schedule from the yard and sailed directly to the next mobilization port where she's mobilizing all her foundation mission equipment, getting her ready for the Hornsea 3 Foundation installation project. Cadeler sits on a significant backlog across key markets, both in the U.S. and Asia, but certainly also in Europe, and we have recently disclosed a very large foundation project with a non-disclosed client for execution in 2029, which is something that we are very, very pleased with. I think it's a verification of the concept we are running on the foundation side, where the biggest clients in our industry, they are coming to us for full TNI on foundation installation, both near term, mid term, and also in the longer term. We will continue to work very, very diligently for more foundation work, but also for more BTG work.
As we do that, we will also continue to build Nexra, our O&M vehicle, and we expect that the backlog will continue to be strong across the years that we are sailing through now. The backlog has basically grown since we listed the business, and we are now standing today at a backlog of almost EUR 2.9 billion, where 78% of that has reached FID. We believe that that is a quality sign that so much of our backlog has reached FID and also that we are continuing to grow the backlog. We have discussed before that we see 2027 and 2028 as years with slightly more competition for the projects and also an expected lower utilization degree on the fleet.
We are, of course, still working very, very hard to continue to get the best projects in these years so we can continue the journey with our fleet, with our company, and our people. In terms of the new builds out there, we have Wind Mover that are delivering here in Q4 this year. This is the last delivery this year, and when this is delivered, we will have totally taken delivery of five vessels this year, including the Wind Keeper, which was an additional delivery this year that was unexpected at the beginning of the year. It is very, very close to completion, has already completed the sea trials, and we are expecting, as I said before, to deliver the vessel in the next couple of weeks.
The Wind Base is on track, and we expect that she will be floated out of the dry dock here in December 2025, and delivery is still planned for the third quarter 2026, but there are opportunities for us to potentially advance that should the market need that in 2026. On Wind Apex, we still look at the delivery in Q2 2027, and we are following the plan there exactly as on the other vessels. The Wind Keeper, as I said, has arrived at Fjord in Denmark, and we are on schedule. It is a big upgrade scope we are doing on the vessel, but we need to make sure that this vessel operates to Cadeler standards from the beginning.
We are working with one of our esteemed clients, with Vestas, and we want to make sure that Vestas gets a real Cadeler experience on the Wind Keeper from the beginning. The primary scope of the Wind Keeper will be O&M services, but with the crane she has and the leg length she has and the carrying capacity she has, she can also embark on installation scopes. For us, it is important that we make sure that we drive a lot of value out of this investment, and we believe that with what we have seen so far, that that is very, very much a strong opportunity for us and for our client in collaboration. At this point, I will hand over to Peter for the financial highlights in this quarter.
Peter Brøgaard, Chief Financial Officer, Cadeler: Thank you very much, Mikkel. Yes, financial highlights for Q3, it was a very, very strong quarter that reflects high utilization and cost under control in comparison to last year. Of course, we have three more vessels in operations, the two B-class vessels, Wind Peak and Pace, and Wind Maker. Revenue was EUR 154.3 million. Equity ratio is still with the more leveraged balance sheet with deliveries and drawdown on our facilities still very solid, 47.3% utilization, very high, and at 92.2%, which is very, very good for the quarter. Market cap, EUR 1.4 billion, approximately three times the guided EBITDA for the year. EBITDA for the quarter, EUR 109.1 million. Cash flow from operation activities, EUR 214 million. As Mikkel explained, a backlog record high at EUR 2.9 billion. Three months daily average turnover is EUR 5.4 million.
If we look at the P&L for Q3, yeah, again, it really reflects that there are small vessels in operations, Wind Peak, Wind Pace, Wind Maker. And it is this picture that we have seen quarter by quarter with very strong results. Once a vessel goes into operations, our financials take a step up. Revenue EUR 154.2 million, and that is due to, of course, the high utilization, but also the additional vessels. Cost of sales under control, EUR 38,000 approximately for the quarter, a little bit up as compared to last year, but also two vessels in operations in the US with a little bit of higher opening per day, but still below the EUR 14,000 mark per day. SG&A also up due to what we have been communicating for some time now that we are building the organization exactly to what we see now.
We have more vessels in operation and also the upcoming foundation projects. EBITDA, as I said, is EUR 109 million, which is more than double what we had last year. P&L for the nine months from the 1st of January to the 13th of September, it is more or less the same story. In addition to that, you can see that the openings for the year is EUR 34,000 per day, which is also reflecting that it is operation under control. As communicated around the first half report, we also have received these termination fees for the termination of a long-term agreement on a postponed, including on a postponed project of Hornsea 4. Balance sheet, yeah, reflecting the deliveries and we have taken so far this year, three new builds and the Wind Keeper, but as I said, still equity ratio at a very comfortable level.
This is a slide we have shown a couple of times. It really shows that we have sufficient funding to go through the remaining CapEx program we have with the Mover, the remaining two A-class vessels coming in in Mover Q4 2025, and Ace 2026 and Apex in 2027. We have quite a strong balance sheet and cash and liquidity available. The other story here is that we still see a lot of support from the banks. I think it is unchanged, strong support we have seen throughout the last couple of years. Apex is not committed financing yet because it is delivered in 2027, so we will start financing that one in 2026 and have that in place approximately one year before delivery in order to not incur too much commitment fees on that one.
We see exactly the same strong support and interest from the banks also for the Apex. This is the financing overview. What is new here is that we had a Wind Keeper bridge facility that we took when we signed the agreement on the acquisition of Wind Keeper, and we have now a Wind Keeper syndicated facility in place to replace that. That was not done by the end of Q3, but that is something that has happened subsequently. Four-year outlook for 2025, we maintained the outlook that we issued around the first half year report after the termination of the long-term agreement. Of course, we are way along into the year, and there's not a lot of uncertainties and judgments left. However, what can fluctuate here is how much of the TNI scope on Hornsea 3 that falls into 2025, 2026, 2027.
That is something that can move a little bit, but we maintained the guidance from half year before. Over to you, Mikkel.
Mikkel Gleerup, Chief Executive Officer, Cadeler: Thank you, Peter. In terms of commercial outlook for the business, I think what we can say in terms of our view on the market, we get a lot of questions on this, and rightfully so. We do see a recalibration. We still see strong momentum, especially in the inner years and in the outer years with a period in between where the momentum is weaker. What do I mean by that? Let me first talk about the inner years. I think it's fair to say that at the moment, there are several projects out there that don't have an installation solution or an O&M solution at the moment, and they are still looking in the market. In 2026 and also in 2027, it is becoming increasingly difficult to get a solution, and especially if that solution is a solution where it's the same vessel that does everything.
Of course, if you're willing to piece meal it together, then you can find a solution still, but this will be the next step. I think 2026, close to impossible at the moment, and in 2027, it is becoming more and more something that you have to put together to deliver a full solution to clients. We are seeing that in the middle year, so the second half of 2027 and also in 2028, that some of the projects there have been shifting to the right. That means that there are lower than expected utilization in this period, but we are still seeing a significant outbuild in 2029 and forward.
As we have just shown the market as well, we have signed a big contract for 2029, and we see actually that some developers would like to secure their capacity for this period, the 2029, 2030, 2031 period, sooner rather than later, to not miss out on the capacity in those years. Of course, a lot is still pending on the auctions that are coming, like auction round seven and auction round eight, but we do see that also there is support from governments in Denmark, for example. There has been support on two of the offshore projects to make them increasingly attractive to the market, and hence we also do believe that there will be successful bidding in Denmark around the auction.
We believe that it's fundamentally important to say also that even with the adjusted targets, we are still seeing a large outbuild of offshore wind in this decade. From next decade, we do expect that the curve will increase in its steepness, and more will be outbuilt as we come into that area. As we say at the bottom here, we do expect a vessel undersupply towards the end of the decade and the beginning of the next decade. In terms of capacity and what we see in the market and what others are seeing in the market, we are seeing a different reality from whomever you ask. We have tried to show here what the various consultants and analysts that are looking at the market, when they look at the worldwide market, excluding China, what are they saying that will be installed before 2031.
No matter what line you're taking here, there is a significant increase from where we are today to where we will be when we are into the next decade. I think that Cadeler's focus is to grab the right projects, the best projects, and make sure that we are running on as high utilization profile on our vessels as possible. I think that with the plan that we have laid out also for the middle years, the 2027, 2028 years, we are on a mission now to close these years in as fast as possible with the best projects possible in these years. It is a fact that there is more competition in 2028 than we expected due to missed auction rounds and due to projects being shifted to the right, but it doesn't mean that there's no opportunity.
I think that that is the important message from us, that is that there are opportunities, and we are fighting for those opportunities, and we will continue to do so. Europe will continue to be the leader in the outbuild, but we also do see APEC continuing outbuild, and especially Korea is coming in that market in addition to what we have seen in Taiwan and in Japan. Recently, there has also been a European developer signing a development agreement in another Asian country, but we do not believe that that will have an impact in this decade. We still have the largest fleet in the industry, and we believe that that fleet and the flexibility, predictability, and affordability that it gives our clients is something that they are having a preference for.
We are still active in a wide range of tenders across all years out in the future, and we are fighting as hard as we can to make sure that we deliver the best value and the best projects to our investors. That is what we come to work for and what we are fighting for every day. We do believe that the offering that we can offer to our clients has a value and also something that will drive value for us and our investors. We have also shown on this slide that the supply has gone down since we last addressed the investors in a group setting. The MASK Offshore Wind vessel, the contract between MASK and Cetrium was terminated, and hence at the moment, we do not consider that vessel as being in supply in the market, and hence the supply has gone down.
In terms of key investment highlights, as I already said, largest and most versatile and flexible fleet. This enables a lot of different things for our clients, both in terms of cost utilization, efficiency, and project de-risking. We see that all of these matters are something that we are currently discussing with clients for current projects, for projects in the near, the mid, and the long term. We are active in all of these timelines. We have a highly experienced team, and we have been conservative in how we have grown the team, and that is also why we are confident that we have the right-sized team for what we are seeing in front of us now.
We have a good relationship with clients and with contacts in general in the industry, and we believe that we are in a very, very good situation in terms of negotiating projects with our clients. We believe we have a resilient global platform. We believe that we are able to spread risk on more units, and hence that we are also both from an operational risk, but also from a, let's say, a market risk in a good position. We do see also that the O&M market is something that is taking an increased share of the fleet in terms of either campaigns on turbines or ad hoc service work that is needed for main component replacements on the products already installed out in the market. We do see an undersupply of capable vessels, in particular on foundations in 2029 and VTG vessels from 2030.
That is something we can already start to see now because we are basically bidding some of those projects already now. We see, as I said, also a very strong growth in the demand for O&M services. All in all, with the reality of the middle years, the second half of 2027 and 2028, we believe that we are in a market that in the short term will be very, very strong and very, very busy where every single vessel day will be captured. We are coming into a period of more balanced work and more balanced utilization, and then coming into a market again that is picking up in 2029 with the projects we currently see out there. We have a strong track record in the capital markets, and we are backed by a record high order backlog of EUR 2.9 billion.
We believe that that order backlog provides a lot of earnings visibility. As I read in some of the reports this morning that came out, more than EUR 700 million of that is in the next 12 months. Also in terms of what is covered for the next 12 months, we are also in a very, very good position. I think from that point, very strong near term, slightly weaker middle term, and then a pickup again in the longer term. That is what we have for you today. From this point on, we are happy to take questions.
Earnings Call Moderator, Cadeler: Thank you. At this time, we invite those analysts wishing to ask a question to click on the raise hand button, which can be found on the black bar at the bottom of your screen. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by lowering your hand. When it is your turn, you will hear your name called and receive a prompt to be promoted. Please accept, wait a moment, and once you've been promoted, you may unmute yourself and ask your question. We encourage you to turn your video on as well. We will wait one moment to allow the queue to form. Our first question is from Martin Husby Karlsson from DNB. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Thank you. I think you did a pretty good job talking about 2028 being a transition year, but I'm curious to hear a little bit on your confidence level for 2029 and 2030 seeing higher volumes. Is that related specifically to some events out there, or is it in general contingent upon more government and political support for offshore wind in Europe? Thanks.
Mikkel Gleerup, Chief Executive Officer, Cadeler: Yes, thank you, Martin. Good question. I think the confidence level is primarily built on the number of projects we are bidding at the moment, but also how our clients are willing to commit to these bids if they can secure capacity. I think that for obviously something like the U.K. round seven auction, I know that the budget was for some in the market lower than what was expected. I still believe that with the budget, a significant amount of projects can be approved. For us, it is about being involved in the right projects, but also a general belief from the projects that are currently tendering in those years and willing to commit to those years.
We form an overall view that we see, and especially on 2029 on foundations, that there is or will be potentially a situation where not everybody can be served in that year.
Good. As a follow-up in terms of positioning Cadeler for the next, call it next couple of years in terms of backlog, 2028 looks maybe to be a little bit challenging, but when you get into 2029 and 2030, and there is quite a lot of uncertainty in the industry as a whole, could you talk a little bit to how you perceive or get comments from clients with respect to your positioning, having a large fleet of vessels and also being able to do both foundations and turbine versus some of the single or two-vessel companies out there?
Yeah, I think that that is something that is certainly valued highly by the clients, that there is a degree of predictability and safety in the supply side because I think that even for a year like 2028, where some developers, they have one project to execute, it is very, very important that that project goes to plan. I think that we see that, and we also feel very much from the conversations we have with our clients, that it is a lot around our ability to deliver, our ability to guarantee vessel and potentially backup vessels if something should go wrong, that that matters more than anything else. We oftentimes get the question, how much do you discuss? How much do you discuss price with your clients?
I would actually still say that price is not the main thing that we are discussing with our clients, whereas it is true that there is, of course, more pressure in 2028 because we are more fighting for fewer projects. That is a natural function. I think that there are realities on both sides of that. Firstly, it depends a lot on which developer we are talking to. Secondly, also what kind of project is it that they want to execute. Particularly on the foundation side, let's say it is a confidence in the delivery. On the VTG side, it is also this whole, how can we back up around the turbine OEMs should they have problems, for example. I think that those are things that we are discussing.
Thank you. You touched a little bit on it, my next question in your answer already, but in terms of pricing, there has been, at least from the outside, pretty solid pricing for 2026, 2027 execution. You announced recently work for 2029, 2030, which also seemed to be at a good pricing. Can you kind of help us understand that in the context of 2028 demand looking a little bit softer?
Yeah, I think again, it depends a lot where you're looking. If you're looking in Asia, I think that we are still seeing a tight supply and demand balance even in 2028 compared to the rest of the world. I would say in Europe, we are seeing that in 2028, the prices are slightly more under pressure, and you need to be sharper in order to secure projects there. In 2028, I would argue that price is a matter because obviously if you have a project in 2028, you also know that there are more companies that can do it for you than currently there are projects. Hence that drives, if not a downward pressure on the prices, then at least a stabilization of prices at least. I think that it is an overall evaluation criteria.
As I've said before, it's hard to evaluate it on a day rate basis. I cannot tell you that it has gone down from this to this, but I think it's more the overall view on the project, but it doesn't mean that it's not still something that is attractive for us to do.
Thank you. I will turn it back. Thanks.
Thank you, Martin.
Earnings Call Moderator, Cadeler: Thank you. Our next question is from Jamie Franklin from Jefferies. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Jamie Franklin, Analyst, Jefferies: Hi there. Thank you for taking my questions. Firstly, just focusing on 4Q, you mentioned obviously that Hornsea 3 is probably the biggest variable in terms of where you end up within your four-year guidance range. Could you maybe just give us a bit more color on the scope currently being worked on Hornsea 3? As you move into 2026, what is your kind of current expectation in terms of timing for first monopole installation, please? The second question is just for Peter. In terms of the cash flow for 4Q, can you give us any indication of what to expect in terms of working capital? A pretty decent inflow in 3Q. Should we expect that again in 4Q? Similarly on CapEx, what are kind of the main components to expect in 4Q?
Is it just a final installment of Wind Mover, or are there going to be some Wind Keeper upgrade CapEx as well? Thanks.
Peter Brøgaard, Chief Financial Officer, Cadeler: Yeah, if we take the last question first, thank you, James. CapEx Q4, that is of course the Mover, and then it's mission equipment on Wind Ally, I think. And then of course, what is also coming every quarter is these capitalized borrowing costs, but on these two, it would be around EUR 320 million, so around that, but predominantly coming from the Mover. Working capital, of course, Q3 is a little bit of a special quarter for working capital because it goes down significantly due to that we have received termination fees on long-term agreement cancellation that was sitting as an asset at the half year, end of June, and we received the money in Q3. There was an inflow there. If you isolate that, it's pretty much the same picture we will see in Q4 as we have seen in Q3.
We have modest growth in wind capital or same level. That is what we see. What we are seeing on the transport and installation scope we are doing in 2026, that is of course the planning and engineering, but we are also starting on the transportation scope in Q4. That is what we see. The first monopile, maybe you can answer that.
Mikkel Gleerup, Chief Executive Officer, Cadeler: Yeah, I can answer that. We are not allowed to tell you because it's Ørsted that is having that under their announcement criteria, so to speak. We are not allowed to guide you towards when the first pile is in the water. What I can say is that we are absolutely on plan on Hornsea 3 and that we follow all our planned deliveries on target and on budget at this stage, which is very, very pleasing because of course at this stage, we have delivered many of the engineering scopes that we have been working on for years and years. This includes the transportation frames for the secondary steel, the transportation frames for the piles, the mission equipment for the vessel, and the vessel is mobilizing at the moment.
At the same time, we are preparing two ports, the Port of Tyne for secondary steel where the Wind Orca will operate from, and Teesport where the Wind Ally will work from loading out piles. A lot of things are going on, and we consider at the moment that we are in full execution on Hornsea 3, but of course the Ally will come in the first quarter next year and start preparing for installation of piles. The exact dates and targets and all of that is not something we are allowed to discuss in the public domain.
Jamie Franklin, Analyst, Jefferies: Okay, understood. Thank you.
Earnings Call Moderator, Cadeler: Thank you. Our next question is from Daniel Hogland from ABG Sundal Collier. Please unmute your line and ask your question.
Hi guys. Good to see you and congrats on a good report. I have a couple of questions. The first one is on the contract, the EUR 500 million contract you announced recently. Are you kind of able to give any indication of a rough kind of percentage split of how much is related to the TNI services and how much is the installation?
Mikkel Gleerup, Chief Executive Officer, Cadeler: Unfortunately, it forms part of an auction for the client, and hence we are not allowed to divide it out any more than we are at this stage. We will do that whenever we pass certain milestones, but at this stage, we are not allowed to do that.
Jamie Franklin, Analyst, Jefferies: Okay. That's okay. Then my second question is, given that you're now kind of ramping up revenues from foundations into 2026, will you start kind of a segment reporting, splitting out the two different ones at some point, or will you kind of just continue the way you've already been reporting?
Peter Brøgaard, Chief Financial Officer, Cadeler: We have no plans to show segment reporting on that.
Jamie Franklin, Analyst, Jefferies: Okay. Okay. On kind of the commercial outlook, I see that you're still expecting vessel under supply towards the end of the decade. I was wondering, could you maybe explain a little bit more on that, Mikkel, because as you said, demand looks to be shifting to the right. Are you expecting anything to happen on supply as well, or are you just saying that demand will still grow enough in, say, 2029 and 2030 to still create an under supply?
Mikkel Gleerup, Chief Executive Officer, Cadeler: Yeah, as I said to Martin when he asked the same question, I think that we are getting this confidence from the projects we are bidding and also the clients that are willing to put money where their mouth is, so to speak, on their projects. That is for us a good indication that these projects are something that they are betting on at least. In terms of under supply, I think we have said for a few quarters now that we think that most of the analysts, they are getting the supply side wrong, both on the WTIV and on the foundation installation, and that too much is counted on the supply side. I think that the future will show how that will work out.
As I think that has been said from our side before, whether or not there is an over or under supply, we believe that the best assets in the industry drive so much efficiency on a project that it will always be the best solution to go with the best asset. In terms of fall height, we believe that we are in a good position with the assets we have, not for every single project in the world, but for, let's say, a standard offshore wind project at utility scale, we believe that there is a strong benefit and a strong efficiency gain in taking the best asset for the project. I think that it's a combination of these things, you know, that we in general think that most analysts get the supply side slightly wrong.
We think also that the clients are much more, let's say, active and committing to the years 2029, 2030, 2031, and then what I said around fall height.
Jamie Franklin, Analyst, Jefferies: Okay. That's great. Thank you. That was all I had.
Mikkel Gleerup, Chief Executive Officer, Cadeler: Thank you.
Earnings Call Moderator, Cadeler: Thank you. Our next question is from Andreas Grimsø from SB1 Markets. Please unmute your line and ask your question. Andreas, we're unable to hear you right now. Apologies, we seem to be having some technical difficulties. That is our final question for today. If you would like to hand back to Mikkel Gleerup for any closing remarks.
Mikkel Gleerup, Chief Executive Officer, Cadeler: Yes, thank you. Just wanted to say thanks for listening in to this quarterly presentation. We are looking forward to come back to you with the fourth quarter and the year presentation, also with more details on the Hornsea 3 because at that point in time, we will have a lot of exciting stuff to show you. Wait out for that. It will be interesting. There is a lot of exciting things going on at the moment, and we are looking forward to also announce the delivery of the Wind Mover in the not so distant future. Thank you very much for listening in and reach out to us if there is any follow-up questions that is better handled on a one-to-one basis. Thank you.
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