Earnings call transcript: Gladstone Capital Q3 2025 sees decline in total interest income

Gladstone Capital Corporation reported its Q3 2025 earnings, revealing a 2.3% decline in total interest income to $20.9 million. The company’s net investment income reached $11.3 million, translating to $0.50 per share. Despite these figures, the stock price experienced a slight decrease of 1.86% to $26.91. According to InvestingPro data, the company maintains a strong dividend yield of 7.36% and has maintained dividend payments for 25 consecutive years, demonstrating resilient shareholder returns amid market volatility.

Key Takeaways

• Total interest income declined by 2.3% to $20.9 million.
• Net investment income stood at $11.3 million, or $0.50 per share.
• Stock price decreased by 1.86% to $26.91.
• Company maintained a focus on growth-oriented lower middle market investments.
• Anticipated net originations of $50-100 million per quarter moving forward.

Company Performance

Gladstone Capital Corporation faced a challenging Q3 2025, with a notable decline in total interest income. The decrease in average earning assets by 5.2% contributed to this downturn. However, the company managed to increase its net assets by $7.4 million, or $0.33 per share. The portfolio yield remained robust at 12.8%, indicating efficient asset management despite market challenges.

Financial Highlights

• Total interest income: $20.9 million (2.3% decline)
• Net investment income: $11.3 million ($0.50 per share)
• Net assets increase: $7.4 million ($0.33 per share)
• Total assets: $780 million
• Investments at fair value: $751 million
• Leverage: Increased to 81% post-quarter

Outlook & Guidance

Looking forward, Gladstone Capital anticipates net originations between $50-100 million per quarter. The company remains cautious about economic uncertainties but expects a strong Q4, traditionally a robust period for the firm. The focus will continue to be on lower middle market investments, with potential growth through follow-on acquisitions.

Executive Commentary

David Gladstone, CEO, emphasized the company’s strategy, stating, "We continue to stick with our strategy of investing in growth-oriented lower middle market businesses with good management." Bob Marcotte, President, added, "We are generally not buying on the basis of economic growth or particular broad base of economic assumptions."

Risks and Challenges

• Economic uncertainties may impact investment opportunities and returns.
• Increased leverage to 81% could pose financial risks.
• Dependence on lower middle market investments may limit diversification.
• Market volatility could affect asset valuations.
• Regulatory changes in the financial sector might influence operations.

Gladstone Capital Corporation’s Q3 2025 performance reflects the challenges of navigating a complex economic environment while maintaining strategic focus on growth-oriented investments. The company remains poised for future growth despite the current headwinds.

Full transcript - Gladstone Capital Corporation (GLAD) Q3 2025:

Conference Operator: Greetings, and welcome to the Gladstone Capital Corporation Third Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. At this time, participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I’d now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr.

David Gladstone, Chief Executive Officer for Gladstone Capital Corporation. Thank you. You may begin.

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Well, thank you for that nice introduction and good morning to everyone out there. This is David Gladstone, Chairman and this is the earnings conference call for Gladstone Capital and its quarter ending 06/30/2025. Thank you all for calling in. We’re always happy to talk to our shareholders and the analysts who follow us. Welcome we welcome the opportunity to provide updates for our company.

And now before we get going, we’re going to have Katherine Gurkus, our Director of Investor Relations and ESG to provide a brief declaration regarding certain regulatory matters concerning this call.

Catherine Gurkus, Director of Investor Relations and ESG, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Catherine? Good morning. Today’s call may include forward looking statements, which are based on management’s estimates, assumptions and projections. There are no guarantees that future performance and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in these statements due to various uncertainties, including the risk factors set forth in our SEC filings, which you can find on the Investors page of our website, gladstonecapital.com. We assume no obligation to update any of these statements unless required by law.

Please visit our website for a copy of our Form 10 Q and earnings press release, both issued yesterday, for more detailed information. You can also sign up for our e mail notification service and find information on how to contact our Investor Relations department. We are also on xgladstonecomps and Facebook, keyword The Gladstone Companies. Now I will turn the call over to Gladstone Capital’s President, Bob Marcotte.

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Thank you, Catherine. Good morning and thank you all for dialing in this morning. I’ll cover the highlights for the quarter and a few subsequent events and some comments on our near term outlook for the company. Beginning with our last quarter results, fundings last quarter totaled $73,000,000 and included two new PE sponsored investments in the healthcare and industrial manufacturing sectors. Exits and prepayments remained elevated at $82,000,000 as we exited two sizable investments in the aerospace and restaurant industries.

The net originations were negative $9,000,000 for the period as the bulk of the new deal pipeline we discussed last quarter flipped past the quarter end. Interest income for the period fell slightly to $20,900,000 largely as a result of the 5.2% decline in the average earning assets. However, the weighted average portfolio yield rose 20 basis points to 12.8% for the quarter with one time items associated with the prepayments. Interest and financing costs fell 8.8% with lower bank borrowings, while net management fees rose 500,000.0 as incentive fee credits declined to $700,000 and net investment income was flat at $11,300,000 for the period. Net realized losses were $3,600,000 for the quarter, the bulk of which was related to the post restructuring valuation of our investment in EG’s, which is now a performing debt investment.

One of the larger contributors to the unrealized depreciation for the quarter was our printed circuit board investment, which which had a slowdown in bookings, which we are addressing. However, on balance, the portfolio appreciation offset the decliners. So for the TTM period, our ROE came in at a respectable 15.8%. With respect to the portfolio, the portfolio turnover for the period did not have a material impact on our investment mix as new originations were predominantly first lien debt, which was maintained at 70% of the fair value of the portfolio and total debt holdings came in at 90% of the portfolio at fair value. As of the end of the quarter, we had three non earning debt investments with a cost basis of $28,800,000 or $11,500,000 or 1.7% of our debt investments at fair value.

As I mentioned earlier, since the end of the quarter, we’ve been busy working through our deal pipeline and have closed on four new platform investments and an add on bringing July and early August originations to $93,000,000 and net of the $3,800,000 payoff of our last material broadly syndicated loan, net originations for July and early August were $89,000,000 And while I’m sure I’ll get some questions about the recent spike in investment activity in face of the broader market conditions, our core strategy of focusing on growth oriented lower middle market investments backed by PE sponsors is unchanged. For context, of the eight deals funded since the end of last quarter and thus far this quarter, which have totaled $159,000,000 88% were first lien investments with an average closing leverage of three times EBITDA and an average margin over SOFR of an excess of 7%. In reflecting on our outlook for the next quarter or two, I’d like to leave you with a couple of comments. The vast majority of the anticipated portfolio events are behind us and between our remaining new deal pipeline and new investment opportunities, we anticipate a resurgence in our portfolio growth. Market volatility aside, we continue to see a healthy flow of attractive lower middle market deal opportunities and are thrilled to have closed deals with six new sponsors since March 30.

In addition to recycling the way the investment exits in the past couple of quarters, we expect to continue to benefit from our incumbent position as the originator, lead lender and in some cases equity co investor in the newer vintage growth oriented businesses closed recently as they look to grow through acquisition or expansion and support the appreciation of their equity position. We ended the quarter with a conservative leverage position with debt at 64 of NAV and the bulk of our upsized and renewed bank credit facility available to support the growth of our earning assets in the next couple of quarters. Now I’d like to turn the call over to Nicole Schultenbrand, Gladstone Capital’s CFO to provide some details on the fund results for the quarter.

Nicole Schultenbrand, CFO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Thanks, Bob. Good morning, everyone. During the June quarter, total interest income declined 2.3% to $20,900,000 as the average earning assets declined 5.2%, while the weighted average yield on our interest bearing portfolio rose slightly to 12.8% for the period. Total investment income of $21,700,000 was unchanged from last quarter as prepayment fees lifted the other income for the quarter. Total expenses were largely unchanged versus the prior quarter as interest expenses declined $500,000 with lower bank borrowings.

However, net management and incentive fees rose by a similar amount. Net investment income for the quarter was $11,300,000 or $0.50 per share. The net increase in net assets resulting from operations was $7,400,000 or $0.33 per share for the quarter ended June 30, as impacted by the realized and unrealized valuation depreciation covered by Bob earlier. Moving over to the balance sheet. As of June 30, total assets rose to $780,000,000 consisting of $751,000,000 in investments at fair value and $29,000,000 in cash and other assets.

Liabilities rose $7,000,000 to $3.00 $6,000,000 and consisted primarily of $255,000,000 of senior notes. And as of the end of the quarter, advances under our three twenty million dollars line of credit of $27,500,000 and $14,500,000 of preferred stock. During the quarter, we successfully closed on a two year extension and upsize of our bank line, which included a reduction in the revolver borrowing margin. As of June 30, net assets declined $3,600,000 to $474,000,000 from the prior quarter end with the realized depreciation, and NAV per share fell $0.16 from $21.41 to $21.25 as of June 30. Our leverage as of June 30 rose slightly to 64% of net assets.

And subsequent to June 30, we have funded net originations of $89,000,000 funded with cash on hand and bank borrowings, bringing our line of credit outstandings to 104,000,000 and total leverage to 81% of NAV. With respect to distributions, monthly distributions for August and September will be $0.01 $65 per common share, which is an annual run rate of $1.98 per share. The Board will meet in October to determine the monthly distribution to common stockholders for the following quarter. At the current distribution run rate for our common stock and with the common stock price at about $26.91 per share yesterday, the distribution run rate is now producing a yield of about 7.4%. And now I’ll turn it back to David to conclude.

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Well, thank you very much, Bob and Nicole and Catherine. You all did a great job in informing the shareholders and the analysts out there that follow our company and glad to have that quarter past us and we did a good job, I think. Okay. In summary, stellar quarter for Gladstone Capital. I think team maintained their underwriting and leverage and pricing and discipline.

As you know, we’re always working all of those positions in order to be conservative. We closed eight new investments since our last call for $159,000,000 That’s a good run rate. The company has a very strong balance sheet and recently redid and expensed the bank and expanded the bank line to support our healthy leverage in the amount of deal opportunities. The team has done a great job weathering the last couple of quarters of repayments, always get in the way those repayments and then we have to find another deal to replace it. And they’re well on their way to growing the company and its investment portfolio to support the shareholders’ distributions, which is what we live for.

In summary then, the company continues to stick with its strategy of investing in growth oriented lower middle market businesses with good management. Many of these investments are support by mid sized private equity funds that have put a lot of equity in underneath us and that are looking for experienced partners like our team to support the acquisition growth of the companies they’ve invested in. This gives us an opportunity to make attractive investment paying interest paying loans and small equity investments along the way. This is the end of our presentation. So if the operator will come on and tell people how they can ask some questions.

Conference Operator: Thank Our first question comes from the line of Mickey Schleien with Clear Street. Please proceed with your question.

Mickey Schleien, Analyst, Clear Street: Yes. Good morning, everyone. Bob, a couple of high level questions, if I Much has been written about the growth of private credit and the impact on spreads. I’m interested in understanding whether you’re seeing that capital drift down into the lower middle market where you focus and whether that’s impacting your outlook for spreads on new deal flow?

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Mickey, generally speaking, I would say no. What we’re seeing is our starting investments, if you take our eight deals and $160,000,000 average about $20,000,000 So we’re still well below the threshold for most of the large funds. What we do see are sponsors who may be starting up their platforms. They’ve seen the pricing upmarket and they try to push for lower spreads in their start as they start up their deals. But it doesn’t come down in competition, it comes down more in private equity expectations.

And we’ve been generally pretty successful at resisting that. And while our average is certainly well north of a 7% spread over SOFR, there are some where we will dip slightly below that. But for the most part, we continue to operate at least 100 basis points or more north of where the middle market spreads are currently clearing.

Mickey Schleien, Analyst, Clear Street: That’s really good news. I’m glad to hear that. Bob, one follow-up from me. We’re obviously getting mixed signals on the economy with GDP rebounding in the second quarter, but that was off of a weak first quarter impacted by tariffs and all that. Now the job market’s weak and inflation’s climbing again.

So how do you feel about the overall health of the portfolio? Do you see any tail risks developing? And how is all this uncertainty playing into M and A activity and the expectations for that to pick up later this year or next year?

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Mickey, I think most of our investments have a pretty well articulated growth strategy. They have technology, they have a service model, they have a competitive advantage or a growth oriented capability. And so they tend to have a multiyear outlook for growth. And in many cases, it’s in the current economy. Obviously, we don’t, as we’ve discussed in the past, do a ton of consumer oriented businesses.

When we underwrite the long term growth along with the private equity teams that are investing in these businesses, we’re buying into what that strategy is. We’re generally not buying on the basis of economic growth or particular broad base of economic assumptions. That visibility doesn’t really work in the cash flow model that we use. In terms of changes and uncertainty, yes, we are certainly concerned about how the headwinds in certain spending or consumption patterns may be affected. And we certainly are both running those sensitivities as well as stressing the cases.

But I would also say, as I outlined, we’re going into these businesses with relatively conservative leverage on average under three turns. We have the ability to withstand some headwinds at that level where these companies can generate reasonable free cash flow over and above our debt service and sustain definitely some headwinds. And I would also say that virtually all of our investments that we’ve spoken to since our last call have been sponsored deals. So you’re talking about new investments, you’re talking about sponsors who put in significant money and are willing to defend those assets. With respect to the overall portfolio, sure, there’s a couple of folks that we are mindful of and we are watching very closely.

But, I don’t think at the moment that we are terribly concerned of any in particular given the current tariff outlook or the like, given the growth profile and the cash flow cushions that these businesses have when we underwrite them.

Mickey Schleien, Analyst, Clear Street: Thanks for that explanation, Bob. That’s really helpful. I appreciate it. That’s it for me this morning.

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Thank you for calling in my Operator,

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: can you come on and we’ll get the second question?

Conference Operator: Yes, sir. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sean Paul Adams with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Hey, guys. Good morning. You’ve largely Good stayed around the same portfolio mix in first lien. However, matching the theme of the second lien and equity co investments from post quarter end, are you evaluating shifting that structure mix around to boost portfolio yields? Jean Paul, not there’s no fundamental core strategy to change that.

I think we look at each individual investment. There’s no overall macro intention. As long as we’re able to generate unitranche assets with yields that make sense for It’s not really what we’re focused on. I will say two caveats to that. One, in some of the larger investments, we have brought in bank partners, so have done kind of first out last out situations where scale and efficient and pricing have been a little bit more competitive.

And so those will show up on our SOI as secured assets. There may be a turn or turn and a half of bank financing in front of us in those situations and we are getting essentially second lien pricing. The number of transactions we’ve done there has been very, very limited. The second thing that I would say is we have been successful doing a number of transactions where asset backed facilities are more cost effective and are appropriate for the business. And in those cases, we will do a second lien behind it.

And in those cases, we’re getting attractive pricing and generally fall within the purview of the overall asset support for the facility. So those are the two angles that we’re playing to manage some of our yield targets. But for the most part, we’re not when you go into the lower middle market, the number of situations where a straight strip of second lien or subordinated debt doesn’t tend to be the case because you think of a 4,000,000 or $5 or 6,000,000 or $8,000,000 EBITDA business, a turn to a turn and a half is a very small investment. Generally, it creates more complications than not. So most of our investments are unitranche and the question is whether we want to bring in a bank to effectively leverage the pricing and get to almost a pseudo second lien, but within the confines of a unitranche facility.

So we’re managing all those angles, but straight second lien doesn’t really work in the lower middle market. That’s very helpful. Thank you.

Conference Operator: Thank you.

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Operator, can you find if we have another question please?

Conference Operator: Yes, sir. Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please proceed with your question.

Christopher Nolan, Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann: Thanks for taking the questions. In your comments, you mentioned that quarter to date, the leverage ratio increased to 81% of NAV. Is that correct?

Robert Dodd, Analyst, Raymond James: Yes.

Christopher Nolan, Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann: Should we expect to be dialed back with prepayments later on the quarter? How does the pattern of prepayments typically go in the quarter? Is it sort of back ended towards the last weeks in the quarter?

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Yes. We’d love to be able to predict those things. I would say, they’ve been coming at a fast and furious. If you tally up the last two quarters plus, I think the number last count was something like 40% of our portfolio and we don’t really control the timing of them. As far as companies, normally we see those as companies that are up for sale that the sponsor has been in long enough, it’s time to exit.

There are two companies that we are aware of in the portfolio that are up for sale. One which may close in the coming quarter and it would be at the very end or the beginning of next. And the second, believe it or not, is under contract to be sold and we are as the incumbent, the preferred lender to go forward. So we really don’t see much in the way of additional repayments at this stage due to sale of the company. But there’s very little predictability other than the normal transaction sell side time frame.

So at this point, it’s fairly erratic. In fact, last quarter, I think there was a period in time where we were actually net in cash. So getting through last quarter with a relatively low amount of leverage, we ended the quarter on a fairly strong note and obviously have continued it since then. So it’s I wish I could plan it, it’s a tough thing to call.

Christopher Nolan, Analyst, Ladenburg Thalmann: Got it. And for my follow-up, you guys have a large debt maturity in early twenty twenty six. Can you share with us your thinking in terms of whether or not it’s better to possibly finance that with an adjustable rate bank facility or go for term debt given the uncertainty about further rate cuts?

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: We’ve been evaluating that maturity on the horizon for some time. We certainly have the capacity under our line to deal with it. That would not be our preferred course. We are evaluating options to knock a portion of that off, But frankly, have been somewhat disappointed in the current spreads that the markets are pricing for companies in our size range. So we are pursuing a variety of alternatives to address that maturity, given what we believe is the relatively low leverage and consistency of our performance and we’ll be moving forward with that over the coming quarters.

So we’re on it. We have a backup plan. But at this stage, there is nothing concrete. We certainly have not only the January maturity, but we have a call on an expensive piece of paper that starts in September that we can also manage. So more to come on the capital markets front.

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Okay. Thank you. Operator, who’s our next questioner?

Conference Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Eric Zwick with Lucid Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Good morning. This is Justin on for Eric today. So it sounds like some of the spike in investment activity may have been related to timing. Can you talk about how your pipeline and backlog are looking for the remainder of the quarter and this year?

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Sure. There are a number of deals in advanced stages right now that are we expect to continue. We do have a healthy number of additional investments on the horizon. And I would say that follow on acquisitions for some of the recent companies is also part of that equation. I look at it two ways.

One is the number of transactions and volumes. And while it may not be as robust as what we’ve done in the last month and one months. Point I think it will continue to be in that 50,000,000 to $100,000,000 range on originations, which we’ve traditionally done on a quarterly basis. I think the positive is also that frankly we don’t see $75 to $100,000,000 of repayments coming. So we have to look at what the net originations are going to look like.

And given the current fund given the current situation being in a positive net originations in the range of $50,000,000 or more a quarter is a nice place of for to support our organic growth. And that’s probably where we would we were before the recent swing up in repayments. And I think we’re going to get back there very, very quickly.

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Okay, great. I think I heard in the prepared remarks that EG’s has been returned back to accrual status. Any update on edge adhesives, which remains on non accrual?

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: That investment is in the wind down mode and will probably be sold off at some point in the very near future. I don’t think that business is likely to be held long enough to see a recovery timeframe. So those are probably situations where there may be some realization of that accumulated depreciation.

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Operator,

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: do you have another question coming?

Conference Operator: Yes. Our final question comes from the line of Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Robert Dodd, Analyst, Raymond James: Hi, and congratulations on the quarter. Just follow-up first on that activity level, Bob. I mean, it sounds like you’re I mean, obviously, the beginning of this quarter was extremely active. Kind of getting the feeling that you’re seeing the future pipeline rebuild sufficiently, maybe not to produce another quarter like that in the December quarter. But to your point, normally December obviously is a pretty strong seasonal quarter.

Would you do you think that there’s a possibility that the December quarter kind of matches the September quarter? Or do you think that the pipeline isn’t rebuilding at a sufficient pace for that to happen?

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Robert, I would say we are continuing to see attractive inbound opportunities. I think 50,000,000 to $100,000,000 of originations a quarter is something that we can do. We have been averaging better than that. I do think that we may have some prepayments, but we will have strong net originations through the balance of the year. And you’re right, December is always a busier quarter.

I have to be cautious in the sense that there’s constantly movement around, in terms of economic uncertainties and certainly deals are taking longer to close. That’s why a lot of the transactions past the sixthirty quarter end. So I have to be somewhat cautious, but I would say, yes, I think we would expect to see a pretty strong Q4. Traditionally, that’s when a lot of these deals get closed. But I’m a little bit more cautious given the uncertainty in the current market.

I think also the pace or change in interest rates tends to change some of the momentum in the marketplace. I think one of the benefits of the lower middle market is the transactions typically are trading at much more reasonable multiples. So interest rates are as impactful on the valuation multiples in our market. So you can still trade at seven or eight times and still afford to finance at its current rates. And I would expect if those rates go down, we could have a stronger year end opportunity.

But right now, I would say, we’ve gone through a pretty elevated state of growth and I would expect originations in that 50,000,000 to 100,000,000 per quarter net would still be pretty attractive growth. We are talking about transactions where we’re investing 15,000,000 to $25,000,000 It takes a lot of manpower to prudently underwrite and to document and diligence those number of transactions. And so there’s just a natural limitation as to how much we’re going to book in a given quarter because of the size deals we do. And that’s not going to change. 50,000,000 to 100,000,000 is probably more than I would want.

It’s an acceptable range. More than that really doesn’t work given our origination models.

Robert Dodd, Analyst, Raymond James: Got it. Got it. Appreciate the color there. Thank you. Just following up on answer to an earlier question.

On the first lien last out, right? I mean, as you said, you’re effectively getting second lien pricing. But I mean, how much of the first lien structure are you selling down to a bank? Because obviously, I think you said like a turn, which would be a lot less than would normally done if you were the second lien behind the first lien, right? You’d normally have that.

So are you getting second lien pricing, but materially better first dollar in effective, once the filer is taken account structure than you would get if it was a straight second lien. I mean, are you getting higher pricing with better risk? As

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: long as you don’t spread the word, Robert. Yes, people come to us because they want an experienced partner and they want unitranche structuring. We have banks that recognize and value what we bring to the table. So if that unit tranche is, let’s say, 3.25 turns of leverage, and let’s use round numbers, let’s say $8,000,000 of EBITDA. So you’re talking about roughly 26,000,028 million dollars of debt.

So we might bring in $15,000,000 first lien and we might take a $13,000,000 last out. So the debt the seniors in for something less than two turns, a turn and a half and we are getting second lien pricing inside of 3.25 turns. To me that’s a pretty attractive attachment point and we control the documents, we control the structure, we control the covenants and we’re getting essentially second lien pricing at first lien leverage limitations. So yes, it is an attractive play if you can put enough to work and in getting and managing origination, the diligence and the documentation.

Robert Dodd, Analyst, Raymond James: I appreciate that color. I mean, taking the flip side to it, right, to your point then obviously you’re only putting out half the capital because it’s the $13.14 that you would normally. So if you took the whole thing you’d be in for 2628, but you actually impact Yes.

Bob Marcotte, President, Gladstone Capital Corporation: But we don’t want ’26 or ’28 at 5.25 to 5.5. That doesn’t work in our model, right? Yes. We’d rather be at seven, seven fifty or more and have a slightly smaller investment. We still have the opportunity to grow and we still have the opportunity to generate the fees off the transaction and we still service a strong relationship with our private equity clients.

Robert Dodd, Analyst, Raymond James: Got it. Got it. Yes, I appreciate it. Thank you. Robert,

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: you’ve been following this industry almost as long as I’ve been working in it. So I know you know are not going to change. We’re going to continue to do what we always do and do it in a way that rewards our shareholders. But thank you I for your

Robert Dodd, Analyst, Raymond James: appreciate that, David and Bob. Mean, yes, sticking to your strategy is important. That’s where your expertise is. So stick to it. Thank you.

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: Okay. Operator, do we have anybody else?

Conference Operator: No, sir. There are no other questions at this time. I’ll turn the floor back to you for any final comments.

David Gladstone, Chairman and CEO, Gladstone Capital Corporation: All right. Thank you very much all of you. We appreciate you calling in and we love it when you have a lot of questions. So, make sure you get a good sheet full of questions for next time and we’ll see you at the next meeting. That’s the end of this conversation.

Conference Operator: Thank you. This concludes today’s conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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