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GoEZ Limited (market cap: $2.79 billion) reported its Q1 2025 earnings, missing analyst expectations with an earnings per share (EPS) of $3.53 against a forecasted $4.53. Revenue reached $392 million, slightly below the anticipated $403.75 million. The market reacted negatively, with GoEZ’s stock falling by 8.67%, closing at $145.10, down from its last close of $158.88. According to InvestingPro analysis, the stock’s price movements have been notably volatile, though the company maintains strong fundamentals with liquid assets exceeding short-term obligations.
Key Takeaways
- GoEZ’s EPS fell short of forecasts by $1, marking a significant miss.
- Revenue grew by 10% year-over-year, yet did not meet expectations.
- Stock price decreased by 8.67% following the earnings announcement.
- Loan portfolio expanded by 24%, indicating strong growth in lending.
- Efficiency ratio improved, reducing operating expenses as a percentage of receivables.
Company Performance
GoEZ Limited saw a 10% increase in total revenue year-over-year, reaching $392 million. Despite this growth, the company faced challenges in meeting earnings expectations, with adjusted net income falling by 9%. The loan portfolio showed robust growth, increasing by 24% to $4.79 billion, suggesting strong demand for GoEZ’s lending products. The company also improved its efficiency ratio to 26.1%, reflecting better cost management. InvestingPro data reveals the company has maintained dividend payments for 22 consecutive years, with a current dividend yield of 4.45%, demonstrating long-term financial stability despite short-term challenges.
Financial Highlights
- Revenue: $392 million, up 10% year-over-year
- Adjusted operating income: $148 million, up 3%
- Adjusted net income: $60 million, down 9%
- Adjusted diluted EPS: $3.53, down 8%
- Loan portfolio: $4.79 billion, up 24% year-over-year
Earnings vs. Forecast
GoEZ’s actual EPS of $3.53 fell short of the forecasted $4.53, marking a significant miss in expectations. Revenue was also below the forecast of $403.75 million, coming in at $392 million. This performance contrasts with previous quarters where GoEZ met or exceeded expectations, highlighting a challenging start to the year.
Market Reaction
Following the earnings announcement, GoEZ’s stock price dropped by 8.67%, closing at $145.10. This decline reflects investor disappointment with the earnings miss and revenue shortfall. The stock’s performance contrasts with its 52-week high of $206.02, indicating a challenging market environment for the company.
Outlook & Guidance
Looking ahead, GoEZ expects its loan portfolio to grow by $275-$300 million in Q2 2025. The company projects a total yield on its consumer loan portfolio of 31-32% and anticipates credit losses of 8.75-9.75%. GoEZ is focusing on optimizing its product mix and enhancing risk management strategies, with plans to launch a new credit card later in 2025. InvestingPro analysis indicates the stock is trading at a low P/E ratio relative to near-term earnings growth, suggesting potential value opportunity. Subscribers can access 10 additional exclusive ProTips and comprehensive financial analysis in the Pro Research Report.
Executive Commentary
CEO Dan Rees highlighted the company’s strategic focus, stating, "We are expanding the product range, engaging the broader set of distribution channels, and moving well at advancing the digital assets alongside the stores and branches." Executive Chairman David Ingram expressed satisfaction with the loan originations’ quality, while Chief Risk Officer Jason Appel emphasized ongoing optimization of loan offerings and credit risk tolerance.
Risks and Challenges
- Potential impact of new interest rate caps on profitability.
- Managing credit losses within the projected range.
- Ensuring continued growth in a competitive non-prime lending market.
- Adapting to changes in consumer credit demand and macroeconomic conditions.
- Balancing operational expenses with investment in technology and innovation.
Q&A
Analysts questioned GoEZ’s strategies to manage credit losses and the potential impact of new interest rate caps. The company addressed concerns about operational expenses and technology investments, maintaining confidence in its 2025 guidance despite the Q1 performance challenges.
Full transcript - goeasy Ltd (GSY) Q1 2025:
Dion, Conference Operator: Good morning. My name is Dion, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the GoEC Limited First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question and answer session.
Now I will be turning over the time to Farhan Alikan. You may begin your conference.
Farhan Ali Khan, Chief Strategy and Corporate Development Officer, GoEZ Limited: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. My name is Farhan Ali Khan, the company’s Chief Strategy and Corporate Development Officer, and thank you for joining us to discuss GoEZ Limited’s results for the first quarter ended 03/31/2025. News release, which was issued yesterday after the close of market, is available on Cision and on the GoEZ website. Today, David Ingram, GoEZ’s executive chairman, will review the results for the first quarter and provide an outlook for the business. Hal Khoury, the company’s Chief Financial Officer, will provide an overview of our capital and liquidity position Dan Rees, the company’s Chief Executive Officer and Jason Appel, the company’s Chief Risk Officer are also on the call.
After our prepared remarks, we will then open the line for questions. Before we begin, I remind you that this conference call is open to all investors and is being webcast through the company’s investor website and supplemented by a quarterly earnings presentation. For those dialing in by phone, the presentation can also be found directly on our investor site. Analysts are welcome to ask questions over the phone after management has finished their prepared remarks. The operator will poll for questions and will provide instructions at the appropriate time.
Business media are welcome to listen to this call and to use management’s comments and responses to questions in any coverage. However, we
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: would ask that they do
Farhan Ali Khan, Chief Strategy and Corporate Development Officer, GoEZ Limited: not quote the callers unless that individual has granted their consent. Today’s discussion may contain forward looking statements. I’m not going to read full statement, but will direct you to the caution regarding forward looking statements included in the MD and A. I will now turn the call over to David Ingram.
David Ingram, Executive Chairman, GoEZ Limited: Thanks, Fah, and good morning, and thank you for joining the call today. We produced strong loan growth, stable credit performance, and improved operating leverage while also raising over 550,000,000 of additional capital and earning a spot once again in the top 50 workplaces to work in Canada. All of this is a testament to our team and their passion for helping Canadians with not prime credit get access to the financial products that support their lives. A continued increase in market share and favorable competitive dynamics led to a record first quarter of applications for credit at 672,000, up 10% from quarter one last year, generating 43,500 new customers, an increase of 8%, which is a record for a Q1 period. The robust volume of applications led to originations in the quarter of ’6 ’70 ’7 million.
Organic loan growth for the first quarter was 190,000,000 above the company’s forecasted range of between 160,000,000 and 185,000,000. At quarter end, our loan portfolio finished at 4,790,000,000.00, up 24% from the prior year. Unsecured lending continues to be the largest product category at 62% of loan originations and within our direct to consumer channel. The average loan portfolio across our branch network rose to a new high of 7,200,000.0 per branch up 20%. We continue to make progress in scaling our automotive financing products with record first quarter originations of 150,000,000, up 30% year over year.
This quarter, we grew our dealer network to over 4,000 dealers and continue to experience an increase in funding volume from multi location dealer groups. During the quarter, home equity lending volumes were also up 29% year over year with consistent and conservative LTV ratios at approximately 65% inclusive of our loan. The second mortgage product secured by residential real estate is primarily used for debt consolidation, major home repairs and is one of our best performing products with the lowest credit risk. The overall weighted average interest rate charged to our customers during the first quarter was 28.4 down from 30% at the end of the first quarter last year. Combined with ancillary revenue sources, the total portfolio yield finished at 31.3%.
The portfolio yield decline year over year was due to growth of secured loan products, which carry lower rates of interest, targeted credit and underwriting enhancements to reduce risk and implementation of the new interest rate cap. While the total yield in the quarter was at the lower end of our forecasted range, we’re addressing this through the opportunity in products pricing and collections optimization efforts. When we estimated total yield in the interest new interest rate cap environment, it was based on a combination of pricing on originations, how much we can increase pricing below the rate cap and the runoff of our legacy portfolio about 35%. We are fine tuning those assumptions and do not expect any long term structural difference in what we have guided, but rather some movement during the quarters. Total revenue in the quarter was $392,000,000 up 10% over the same period in 2024.
We continue to be pleased with the quality of our loan originations and credit performance of the overall portfolio. The dollar weighted average credit score of our first quarter loan originations was 632, the highest in the company’s history, highlighting the benefits of our credit adjustments and improving product mix. First quarter was also the thirteenth consecutive quarter with a dollar weighted average credit score of our originations was greater than 600. Secured loans now also represent a record 46% of our loan portfolio. Despite the weakening economic environment and higher delinquency in the portfolio relative to last year, our credit losses have remained broadly stable as a result of proactive credit tightening and the higher proportion of our portfolio secured by hard collateral.
As our customers adapt to managing their finances within this new reality of economic uncertainty and stress, we remain focused on supporting them while balancing the need to manage risk and ensure timely repayment of our loan principal. The annualized net charge off rate during the first quarter was 8.9% within our forecasted range of between 8.759.75% for the quarter. To account for weaker economic performance, higher year on year delinquency and unfavorable movements in the modeling of forward looking macroeconomic data obtained from Moody’s Analytics, our loan loss provision rate increased from 7.61% in the prior quarter to 7.86%, which had the impact of reducing earnings by approximately zero five two dollars per share in the quarter. We continue to remain vigilant in our monitoring of the level of credit risk in the portfolio against the backdrop of the weakening economy and its impact on collection and recovery efforts. We continue to experience the benefits of scale through operating leverage and productivity improvements.
During the first quarter, our efficiency ratio specifically operating expenses as a percentage of revenue improved to 26.1%, a reduction of 130 basis points from 27.4% in the first quarter of the prior year. As a function of receivables, operating expenses were 8.7% versus 10.4% during the prior year, reducing margin to absorb reduced APRs. We believe that we can concurrently continue to invest in critical components of our business platform and culture while also driving operating efficiencies to the future. After adjusting for unusual items and non recurring expenses, we reported the adjusted operating income of 148,000,000 an increase of 3% compared to $144,000,000 in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. Adjusted operating margin for the first quarter was 37.9%, down from 40.2% in the same period in 2024.
Adjusted net income for the quarter was $60,000,000 down 9% from $66,300,000 in the same period of 2024, primarily due to the decline in total yield on the consumer loans, as well as the increase in allowance for future credit losses as a result of weaker macroeconomic performance and unfavorable changes in forward looking macroeconomic indicators. Adjusted diluted earnings per share was $3.53 down 8% from $3.83 in the first quarter of twenty twenty four, while adjusted return on equity in
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: the quarter was 20.4%. With that, I’ll now pass over to Hal to discuss our balance sheet and capital position before providing some comments on our outlook. Thanks, David. During the first quarter, we continued to build on our long track record of obtaining capital to support our growth plans. Subsequent to the quarter, we took advantage of favorable capital market conditions and issued US400 million dollars senior unsecured notes due in 02/1930.
In connection with the offering, we concurrently entered into a cross currency swap agreement, which served to reduce the Canadian dollar equivalent cost of borrowing on the notes to 6.03% per annum. Based on the cash on hand at the end of the quarter and the borrowing capacity under our existing revolving credit facilities, we have approximately $2,000,000,000 in total funding capacity. At quarter end, our weighted average cost of borrowing was 6.8% and the fully drawn weighted average cost of borrowing was 6.3%. We also continue to remain confident that the capacity available under our existing funding facilities and our ability to raise additional debt financing is sufficient to fund our organic growth forecast. The business also continues to produce a growing level of free cash flow.
Free cash flow from operations before the net growth in the consumer loan portfolio for the trailing twelve months was $436,000,000 As a result, we estimate we could currently grow the consumer loan book by approximately $300,000,000 per year solely from internal cash flows without utilising external debt, while also maintaining a healthy level of annual investment in the business and maintaining the dividend. Once our existing and available sources of debt are fully utilised, we could also continue to grow the loan portfolio by approx. $500,000,000 per year solely from internal cash flows. During the quarter, we also leveraged our current liquidity position to take advantage of opportunistic share repurchases and purchased for cancellation approx. $71,000,000 worth of our shares.
Subsequent to the quarter, we have continued to be opportunistic and repurchased an additional 25,000,000 worth of our shares. Based on the current earnings and cash flows and the confidence in our continued growth and access to capital going forward, the Board of Directors has approved a quarterly dividend of $1.46 per share, payable on 07/11/2025, to the holders of common shares of record as at the close business on 06/27/2025. I’ll now pass it back over to David.
David Ingram, Executive Chairman, GoEZ Limited: Thank you, Hal. Turning to the upcoming quarter, we continue to take a conservative and prudent approach to manage credit. Yet we also continue to experience healthy demand and limited competitive tension allowing us to grow at an attractive rates while being selective about the loans we underwrite. Despite the macroeconomic conditions, we remain confident in our ability to thrive during this period. As we have proven during cycles before, our business model and our customers are highly resilient and we have a team that’s very experienced of navigating through adversity.
In the second quarter, we expect the loan portfolio to grow between $275 and $300,000,000 while the total yield generates on the consumer loan portfolio to be between 3132%. We expect credit losses to travel within the range of 8.759.75% in the quarter and acknowledge that the speed with which the tariff and broader economic situation is evolving could lead to a higher degree of oscillation within the range as compared to the previous quarter. During the quarter, we announced the appointment of Dan Reeves as the company’s new Chief Executive Officer. Dan is the first external CEO to lead our organization in twenty five years and his appointment is an exciting milestone and signal of GoEasy’s ambition. He brings a depth of experience in financial services that was unmatched by any other candidate and he is exceptionally positioned to lead our business through its next stage of growth.
His entrepreneurial approach aligns well with our culture and his addition strengthens the executive team with their journey to expand our existing products and channels of distribution to become the largest and best performing non prime lender in Canada and beyond. I’ll now pass over to Dan to provide some remarks. Thank you, David, and
Dan Rees, Chief Executive Officer, GoEZ Limited: good morning, everyone. I’m very excited and honored to join and lead the Goeasy team. It has been excellent to see the business model up close, and I’m very pleased with what I have seen and learned. The board and David have crafted a comprehensive onboarding program, and the CEO transition is very much on track. We have an impressive senior leadership team and culture more broadly.
One I would describe as welcoming and positive, growth oriented and yet balanced, and above all else, very experienced and successful. Turning to the business. The organic growth plan is well on track, and in my opinion, to offer attractive yields to shareholders. We are expanding the product range, engaging the broader set of distribution channels, and moving well at advancing the digital assets alongside the stores and branches. The plan to launch a credit card later this year is progressing very well, and broadly the ongoing investments in collections will, as you can imagine, continue to be critical in this business model.
Strategically, see the direction where we are heading as very well placed. As David and me transition the role, I will now start the process of engaging the teams over the coming months to review opportunities. Do not expect any major pronouncements. What has been working well, has been working well for a reason. That said, I do look forward to elevating the conversation about the customer, our target market priority segments, full lifetime value and so forth, as well as the competition.
Who exactly are we competing against? Why might they be winning? And why might they be losing? As you would expect, we are constantly evaluating our risk posture and allocation of capital. Overall, I’m excited about working with David, the team more broadly, and the very supportive board.
We will be unified in our focus on fueling the robust growth and attractive returns that has rewarded shareholders over the long term. With that, I will now pass it back to David.
David Ingram, Executive Chairman, GoEZ Limited: Great. Thank you, Dan. So in closing, I want to thank the entire team for their unwavering commitment to our vision. In April, we were thrilled to hold our company national conference providing us the opportunity to celebrate, recognize all of the incredible talent across our organization. The more than 2,600 team members across Go Easy are smart, they’re hungry, and they’re humble.
They care deeply about providing an exceptional experience for our customers. They play an essential role in the financial system by serving the millions of hardworking Canadians that rely on us for the credit that fuels their lives. I’m very proud of this entire team. Now with those comments complete, we’ll now open the call for questions.
Dion, Conference Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer please press star followed by one on your touch tone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by the number 2. If you are using a speakerphone, Your first question comes from Etienne Ricard of BMO Capital Markets.
Please go ahead.
Dan Rees, Chief Executive Officer, GoEZ Limited: Thank you, and good morning, team. So to start on impaired loans, it’s good to see the improvements sequentially down to 6.9%. What explains this improvement in your view? Is it the result of tighter collection policies that you’ve implemented over the past year? Or is it also the result of your borrower base holding up quite well in this environment?
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: Morning, it’s Jason Appel here, I’ll take that. It’s really both factors, We’ve highlighted and David highlighted in the script, if you look at our early stage delinquency, we continue to see moderating improvement, and that’s largely a function of the fact that we are writing a better quality customer, owing principally the fact that product mix of secured lending has now reached an all time high. You’ll recall that sitting at about 46% of the book and represents a fairly significant portion of new originations that we’re writing. And on top of that, think the organization continues to optimize its ability to collect from the accounts that do sit in the delinquency ranges. So you could chalk that up to better experience and understanding the nuances of this customer base, particularly those that hold secured collateral where we’re mindful of the opportunity to work with them before we have to have the need to secure or seize that collateral.
But it’s a combination of both efforts. It is better overall underwriting performance at the front end of our business and continued optimization of collections at the back end.
Dan Rees, Chief Executive Officer, GoEZ Limited: Okay. It’s interesting to see that 73% of the net loan advances this quarter were to new customers despite to your point, Jason, that you’ve been tightening the underwriting policies. So how would you describe the competitive environment relative to maybe six or twelve months ago? And have you seen any evidence that prime lenders have been tightening?
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: Let me answer that in two ways. I would say, certainly based on the incoming volume of applications we’re seeing, and we’ve seen this before in prior events, as an example in Alberta in 2015 when the oil crash happened, we generally see a tightening that does take place in the major financial institutions, including the banks. And as you would expect, we would be a net beneficiary of that impact. But if you look at the quality of the originations that were written in the quarter that you commented upon, keep in mind that as I think we had indicated in the prior quarter, in anticipation of the introduction of the APR rate cap, we had made adjustments to focus on the ability through which we could improve the qualified loan amounts that we give to our better quality customers. And what we saw in the quarter in Q1 was that our conversion of those customers actually increased.
Meaning that by offering those customers slightly more funds at a lower interest rate, that being the 35% interest rate cap that was introduced, we saw a tick up in the number of new customers that were now interested in taking advantage of the product offer, in particular on the unsecured side of our business. So those factors are what contributed to the numbers that you see. But I would point out again that the influx of individuals from better credit quality segments is something that is pretty typical of these types of events, But that is not the only reason, it’s also because of the adjustments we made to the offers we had out in the market, which simply translated into more better quality customers converting on the offers we had in.
David Ingram, Executive Chairman, GoEZ Limited: One more piece I would add in the quarter is we should all keep in mind that this new rate cap environment is still new to us as well as it is to everyone else. So one of the highlights in the quarter that will lead to some moderation during the next few quarters is we only funded 12.3% of applications versus a run rate or a normalized rate from last year of 15.4%. So when you see the credit quality go up, it really speaks to Jason’s point that there may be prime that’s coming down and being rejected by the banks. And we’re seeing a high credit type of custom coming through. We’re also being much more discreet with who comes into the system because of this new rate cap environment.
So as it’s taken us many, many years to get the portfolio close to 5,000,000,000, it’s likely going to take us a few more quarters to just really optimize what a new rate cap environment looks like at 35% of the loan. So these are good indicators of the health. It just means that we may be missing some opportunity for more originations because we have been more discreet as we try to carefully navigate this change.
Dan Rees, Chief Executive Officer, GoEZ Limited: Great. Thank you very much.
Dion, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from Jeff Fenwick of Cormark Securities. Please go ahead.
Jeff Fenwick, Analyst, Cormark Securities: Hi. Good morning, everyone. I wanted to start my questions off back to the securitization facilities. And as you articulated, you have a lot of capacity now after your last notes issue. But on on those facilities in particular, could you maybe just speak to some of the terms around them with respect to lenders, and is there the potential for some variability in terms of what would be acceptable to put into those facilities?
If there’s a shift in the credit profile or the mix somehow, does that change what you can put into them, is there anything there that’s variable that we should be keeping in mind?
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yeah, hey Jeff, it’s Hal here. So as you know, we currently have two securitization warehouse facilities, one that houses our auto portfolio and another one for our general loans that are under management. As you can imagine, there are covenants and requirements associated with those securitization portfolios as per the normal course. That would include eligibility, reinvestment criteria, and advance rates, and certain requirements in terms of portfolio based requirements, whether that’s average term, concentration, etc. We certainly examine our securitization facilities regularly to determine if there are opportunities or constraints vis a vis the subset of credit performance and quality, excess spread, and the like.
We feel that we’ve actually had quite a successful run at continuing to improve conditions surrounding those facilities, and would expect that to continue going forward as well. In addition, I’d also say we counterbalance that, as you know, with the ability to enter into the unsecured notes market as we have. We took advantage of that subsequent to quarter end and we’re opportunistic around raising roughly another CAD550 million at about 6%, and we feel that we have ample access, capacity, liquidity runway, great syndicate of bank lenders, and we think we’re in fantastic shape as it relates to the balance sheet overall.
Jeff Fenwick, Analyst, Cormark Securities: And with respect to facility one, think it matures in October of this year, so just any thoughts about can you do that a bit early? Obviously you’d probably want to get that settled ahead of that time, but any expectations there?
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yeah, absolutely. And we’re already in the throes of negotiating with our bank partners, don’t see any issues in getting that renewed. And we’ll be looking to do our best at enhancing some of the terms associated with that as well as always.
Jeff Fenwick, Analyst, Cormark Securities: Then on Facilities II, I know it’s targeted more at the auto loans, the balance there didn’t move quarter over quarter, still obviously a very active source of originations for you, is this just a timing issue that you’re carrying them on the revolver before you put them into that facility?
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: That’s correct, yeah. So as we naturally do, we pool that set of receivables and loans and move them into the warehouse. We naturally would have as part of our overall growth, we continue to grow our auto vertical quite aggressively and because of the raising of the high yield notes subsequent to quarter end, we would likely be paying down some of our facilities as well. So you’ll see that little bit of a timing blip in terms of paying down some of our securitization facilities as we raised the high yield funds.
Jeff Fenwick, Analyst, Cormark Securities: Thanks for that color. I’ll re queue.
Dion, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from John Eichen of Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Dan Rees, Chief Executive Officer, GoEZ Limited: Good morning. I wanted to focus on the yield from the quarter. David, in your prepared comments, talked about obviously some movement that might come back and forth in terms of the quarters. And I know that you’re still guiding for yield of at least 31% in the quarter. But I guess my first question is, what is the risk with the changing movements that we’ve seen within the portfolio that we could actually drift below 31%?
And then can you give us some specific instances or examples in terms of what may actually cause the yield to increase through the rest of the year?
David Ingram, Executive Chairman, GoEZ Limited: Sorry, I’m going to give Jason the pen on this one because I think he’ll give you a more tangible response in terms of the breakdown. So in terms of some I’ll give you some quick color and then Jason can be more specific than I can. From our perspective, the risk I think you asked what the risk could be that it could dip below 31. I think the risk is less likely and if we break the yield into two parts, which is the coupon, the price at which we write the yield and then the actual yield, which is what we actually collect from the yield. So on the coupon side, I think the risk is very much less there because we obviously control, what that would be.
And from our first quarter view of life, we can see some opportunity to actually lift in certain categories, small amounts in the yield in the coupon. So, that from our lens based on the competitive set that we’re in, based on the application demand which has been very strong and it’s continued to lift into April and May. So we don’t see any resistance or reasons why we can’t put some of the coupon up in some of the different verticals. And so we’ll be doing that over the next few months in a measured way. On the actual collected side, obviously the collected side has got all kinds of different pieces that could give headwinds.
Some of it could be the economic environment where customers have find it more challenging to make payments on a timely basis. And that’s probably more pronounced in certain verticals than others. So we are susceptible to that. At this point, we don’t see that being a huge risk, but it does carry some risk and obviously the tariffs do play some part in how that works its way through. So that’s a general picture and I think we’re comfortable at the 31% range.
Long term, we are looking for ways to try to edge that up. But I’ll pass it over to Jason. He’ll give you a bit more descriptive than the actuals.
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: Maybe just to bolt that into sort of three broad categories or ways in which we could approach improving the yield gradually over time. David already spoke to the first one, which is just selectively taking pricing on new originations where we believe the competitive environment would support it, and we do see some opportunities to do that. And as I think I’ve pointed out on previous calls, that is part of our part and parcel of how we optimize the yield on the portfolio. The second area would be continued evolution in how we use both our toolset and offerset to optimize the collection of cash from both secured and unsecured accounts. We’ve been evolving our capability in that area over the last several quarters by building much more robust models to target and identify the right customer who has a higher likelihood of repayment under the right circumstances.
We continue to refine that capability and testing and learning against that. And then the third broader area would be just continued work around modifying how we go to market on our products, and in particularly the mix of the types of products we write. If you take just the simple example of our unsecured loan, we continue to test and move up our coupon rates on that program by focusing, as we had pointed out at the outset of the call, the proportion of new customers with whom we are originating, the substantial majority of whom are priced at 35 at the cap. So as a result of just those types of product mix modifications, we can influence the yield to move upward. It obviously, as you can appreciate, just takes a few quarters to work its way through the portfolio, given the size of the installed book now approaches $5,000,000,000 So those would broadly be the three tool sets, pricing on originations, improved collectability of cash through collection tools and segmentation, and modification of our product mix.
Dan Rees, Chief Executive Officer, GoEZ Limited: Great color, guys. Thank you.
Dion, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from Gary Ho of Desjardins Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Gary Ho, Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets: Okay. Great. Jason, maybe a couple of questions on, the credit and the provision side. So I asked this last quarter just on the FLI weights on each of the scenarios. And I think last quarter, there was no material change made last quarter.
So with the five scenario worsening, from the Moody’s analytics, just curious to hear whether the 25 basis points increase in the provision came from the FLI forecast deteriorating or were there shifts in the probability as well?
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yeah, well, as you would appreciate, the ACL strengthening was primarily model driven, and it basically reflects the deterioration in the third party forward looking indicators that we incorporate into the allowance, alongside what I would call a slight weakening in the underlying credit in the portfolio, largely due to the persistency of late stage delinquent accounts, are mostly being impacted by a longer timeframe for us to recover and collect our asset. But as you would also know, against that backdrop, we continue to maintain a very conservative posture, with a substantial majority of our modeled scenario weightings allocated to what we call the neutral and pessimistic scenarios, which are updated every month by Moody’s Analytics. Now within those scenarios themselves, quarter on quarter, and you can see this in the MD and A and financial statements disclosures this quarter, virtually every single FLI that we track to worsen quarter over quarter. In response, as you would appreciate, to the impact and uncertainty that we see with US imposed tariffs on select Canadian goods. Plus you’ll also note that in the quarter we saw evidence of further weakening in the Canadian economy with GDP having turned negative in February and core inflation having ticked up with the elimination of the GST holiday around the middle of the month.
Now we would continue to expect the volatility and the high degree of negativity associated with those forecasts to continue, but we do see them moderating over time, and I think what will ultimately drive that moderation is the degree to which we get clarity on the types of impacts the tariff situation will meter out, and whether or not we can enter into what I would call an enhanced bilateral trade agreement with The United States. Though as you would appreciate, the timing of this does remain a little fluid. We would also expect the provision to gradually moderate in response to a reduction in the volume of late stage delinquent accounts, and as well the strong quality of the new originations that we’ve already spoken about what we are writing, which is leading to an overall reduction in our early stage delinquent accounts. In the interim, as you would expect, we continue to remain focused on our secured mix, being selective with the credit that we’re underwriting, and continuing to optimize our collection efforts. So quarter on quarter I would say we did not see a material adjustment on our side in the weightings.
They are still very much favored toward neutral and pessimistic, and we’ll likely continue to remain in that posture until we see
Nick Priebbe, Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets: Great. And maybe just to bolt on,
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: Jerry, sorry, it’s Holly here, maybe just to bolt on, of course, as those macroeconomic indicators, if they were to shift in a positive direction relative to the FLIs that are currently in place, we would naturally look to reduce our overall provision.
Gary Ho, Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Copy that. And then as a related question, just on the provision rate, the 7.86%, are you able to segregate that between your secured versus unsecured loan provisions?
It’s tough on our side to kind of gauge the appropriateness of that. So when I look back, I think when your loan book was more unsecured tilted, at the onset of COVID, the provisions kind of touched nine to 10% range, but that’s mostly unsecured. Any color if you can kind of help us think about if you were to kind of break that into the two bigger buckets, what would that look like?
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: It’s Hal here. Maybe I’ll start off and then Jason certainly add on. But as you know Gary, we don’t specifically disclose the breakdown of our provision rates between secured and unsecured. What I will say though is as our portfolio begins to triangulate around 50% of the book being secured and relative to the unsecured book, naturally you can kind of gravitate yourself towards that pro rata distribution in a certain sense of the receivables and the associated provision around that. Secured book will be gravitating towards a better risk profile as well, that would create some nuance in that overall provision in unsecured to secured ratio.
And as we’ve disclosed previously, just under 30% of our book currently is our legacy book, that would have been above the rate cap as well, So you can factor that through in terms of your modeling exercise as you look at that from a, not only from a provision standpoint, but from a net charge off perspective as well. Anything further on that?
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: The only thing I would say Gary is obviously if you just look at where the provision is traveling in the quarter, it’s seven eighty six, and as you can appreciate, we’re students of history here at GoEZ, so we have a pretty good view as to how that’s awfully over the last several years under which we’ve been following IFRS nine. That provision rate has traveled in and around the mid to high sevens for about the last three to three and a half years, and that’s despite the fact that we have significantly continued to improve the product mix. That said, obviously the underlying reason why the provision rate continues to move up is because the economic situation over that period has meaningfully deteriorated, even if you go back to ’twenty two and ’twenty three. And as you can appreciate, under IFRS nine, we ought to and should be incorporating that in terms of the expectation of future loss. But as with most things, the expectation of future loss doesn’t necessarily translate into actual loss, as you see with the fact that credit losses this quarter were pretty stable.
So while we have to reserve and ought to reserve against our allowance for future credit losses, we’re very much mindful of how we practically mitigate that risk on a regular basis. And one of the ways in which we do that obviously is to focus on growing our mix of secured loans. So I wouldn’t look at it as how it would impact the provision because while our mix of secured loans has been growing, the provision rate, again, if I go back two to three years, has basically been flat. What’s preventing that provision rate from being higher is that mix of secured loans because the underlying macroeconomic indicators have worsened materially over that period. So I wouldn’t think about it so much in terms of security as I would the benefit that we get from the secured product, giving us a nice buffer to mitigate the risk of broader economic weakness in the portfolio.
Gary Ho, Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets: Okay, that’s helpful. If I can just sneak one more in, just maybe a numbers question. When I look at the sequential change in your loan book from Q4 to Q1, the principal payment and adjustment was quite a bit lower than the last couple of quarters. Just wondering if there’s a reason why or what would cause that to be lower this quarter.
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: Are you talking specifically Gary about the loan originations change quarter on quarter?
Gary Ho, Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets: No, just the just the loan book reconciliation. Yeah, there’s a couple of pieces. There’s just loan originations. There’s a principal payment adjustments and then there’s the gross charge off. So specifically for the principal payment adjustment segment, it’s much lower than the last couple of quarters as a percentage of the beginning balance.
Just wondering what’s causing that.
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: So, what I can certainly speak to is the amount of pay down that you would see in the MD and A quarter on quarter. So let me try and unpack that. Originations to new customers were up 76,000,000 quarter on quarter, and as we pointed out before, that was largely due to higher conversion rates as a result of the introduction of the rate cap at 35%, on top of which we obviously made very positive adjustments to our qualified loan amount strategy, even to more creditworthy customers. Originations to existing customers, however, were down $86,000,000 quarter on quarter, and this was due to the change that we introduced with of the APR rate cap to gradually moderate the decline of portfolio of loans held above 35%. And where these customers approached us, the customers who had existing loans with rates above 35%, where they approached us for an increase in lending, we did not require that their existing loan balance be paid down.
Instead, these customers were adjudicated based on their existing loan balance remaining and the repayment of that loan remaining continuing, which meant that the total amount of additional borrowing we could give to that customer inclusive of their existing loan, was smaller, again because we were not paying down their existing loans. So despite the drop in originations year over year, this didn’t translate into a reduction in the amount of net credit or net principal advanced to these existing customers. And you can see that on page 14 of the MD and A, which shows that the amount of net credit advanced to existing customers was actually flat year on year, despite the fact that we had a meaningful drop in origination volumes. And when you combine that with the fact that we actually wrote more business to new customers, that is how we actually wound up writing new or an additional amount of net principal in the quarter as compared to the prior quarter.
Gary Ho, Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets: Okay, that’s great. Thanks for the color there. That’s it for me.
Dion, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from Graham Ryding of TD Securities. Please go ahead.
Dan Rees, Chief Executive Officer, GoEZ Limited: Hi. Good morning. You called out in your presentation, you approved and funded 10% of loans. Is that new loans or both new and renewals? And then how would that compare to maybe a year ago and perhaps your sort of longer term approval rate?
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yeah, so that number that we’re quoting, Graham, is new loans, only because obviously they represent the vast majority of our loan originations, as I referenced in the prior comment, and that obviously would be down from the prior year, where we would hover more around the 15 ish percent range. And again, the number one reason why that conversion is down is really twofold. One, we obviously saw a significant uptick in the number of applications for credit, given the macroeconomic environment and the high level of demand, And as we pointed out on repeated calls, have tightened our underwriting, in particular as it relates to the unsecured customers we are writing. So that just gives us an ability to be a little bit more mindful and thoughtful about how we cherry pick out of that basket of customers, the net impact of which is that our conversion rate as a percentage of the total applications that we see coming through the door is down. We would expect that ratio to travel in and around that range, but as in most cases we are continually optimizing our loan offerings and our credit risk tolerance, So we could see that number, quite frankly, continue to travel down depending on the amount of inbound applications that we see, because that would fuel the denominator.
Or we could see that number potentially tick up as we begin to get more comfortable and see the results of the changes we’ve made post the rate cap, which appreciate are only three or four months old. So still a little bit of learning to be done, but I would say at the moment that 10% ish level around new loans is likely where we’re going to travel for the next little while.
Dan Rees, Chief Executive Officer, GoEZ Limited: Okay, that’s helpful. And then you flagged that your average blended coupon rate was 6.8% in the quarter, that’s flat year over year. What’s your outlook for this sort of rate through the rest of 2025? Should we expect it to be fairly stable?
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yeah, so the overall component on cost of borrowing is what you’re referring to, think, Graham there. Look, I think as we continue to go out to market, as you might be familiar, we have a proactive hedging strategy that we employ to ensure that our debt facilities are at fixed rates and any subsequent draw on our facilities would be at the prevailing rate at the time. So there’s not much of a movement on the existing portfolio in terms of variable rate movement, but beyond subsequent draws where based on the rate curve and the outlook, should see some nominal reductions in the overall cost of borrowing there.
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: Okay. That’s it for me. Thank you.
Dion, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from Nick Priebbe of CIBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Nick Priebbe, Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets: Okay. Thanks. Just want to drill a little further into the portfolio yield. There was a comment in the MD and A just suggesting that commissions earned on the sale of ancillary products was partly impacted by reduced pricing. Can you just elaborate on what that relates to and when those pricing changes would have been implemented?
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yeah, I can it’s Al here. So I think the comment around that, around our ancillary products, as Jason had alluded to in terms of the tightening up of overall credit, that would typically have perhaps a higher penetration rate of ancillary products, so you think about insurance or warranties, those types of products that would be complementary to the loan. So that would be an initial impact on those numbers. I’d say as well, the increasing shift to secured and the secured mix overall, typically the secured products, whether you’re looking at home equity auto, would traditionally garner a slightly lower penetration rate relative to our unsecured products, so there’s a little bit of a dynamics going on in terms of those rates. Silver lining around that, we continue to invest in our infrastructure to try to continue to move the needle and the dial on our pen rates on a prospective basis.
Nick Priebbe, Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets: Got it, okay. And just two follow ups on that, just one, I’m curious what could have prompted the change in pricing on those ancillary products. Like I would think that demand for the loan protection product, as an example, would be relatively price inelastic. I guess what I’m trying to say is I wouldn’t have thought of the attachment rate being enormous ly sensitive to the commission. So what was I guess the kind of incentive to adjust pricing there?
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: So I would say in terms of pricing more broadly, and if I were
Farhan Ali Khan, Chief Strategy and Corporate Development Officer, GoEZ Limited: to look at
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: our loan protection program specifically, that would have tiered pricing based on loan amount. And so as the loan amount gravitates upwards, the rate for that loan protection product would actually come down, even though you’re still garnering more overall revenue contribution, if that’s helpful.
Nick Priebbe, Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets: Okay, that makes sense. And then I guess the way the account would work is when you originate an unsecured loan and there is take up for the third party loan protection product, the commissioner on the sale of that product would be recognized in the same quarter that the loan is originated, right? So I think what you’re trying to suggest is that in a period where the mix of loans sold skews more towards secured lending, which has a lower attachment rate to those products, the economics of those loans are less front end loaded, all things equal, so that could put some pressure on the yield in that period. Right? And then over the full course or duration of the loan, the overall ROE might actually look comparable between secured and unsecured.
I guess one question I would have is if you were to order rank the product suite by ROE, how would the various products compare?
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yeah, I mean, I think to get back to your earlier narrative around that, I think you’re correct, right? Like depending on the product that’s being sold, either there’s an upfront recognition in totality, as we’re a distributor of those products. For example, a warranty on auto where we would be able to recognize our net commission upfront in period. Whereas if you take a loan protection product where there may be a monthly fee, where we take an upfront service charge or service fee, and then we have back end return economics, that would be a bit trailing in that regard. So there’s a little bit of a dynamic in that respect.
If we think about the contribution of the overall products, all are significant contributors to the overall bottom line. I don’t think we’ve specifically rank ordered them in terms of contribution overall to the economics, but certainly all of them would be significant contributors to our yield and overall economics as we look at underwriting the products.
Nick Priebbe, Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets: Okay. Alright. That’s very helpful. That’s it for me. Thank you.
Dion, Conference Operator: Your next question comes from Jaime Gloin of National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.
Jaime Gloin, Analyst, National Bank Financial: Love it. Yes. Just wanted to ask a question on the OpEx. So maybe first off on the underwriting and collections line, a little bit higher this quarter. Obviously, you’re trying to beef up your collections teams.
Maybe just a little bit more color on where those costs are going? And then is this something that you expect that will kind of run a little bit higher here over the next several quarters as you continue to work through the, what you’ve called the optimization of collections?
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yes, hey, James. Yes, great question. So as we look at OpEx overall, yes, we did see a quarter on quarter year over year movement in the overall OpEx line. Partially that would be volume related as our overall loan book has grown by almost 25% year over year. Collections and the focus in on collections certainly would be an area where we’ve had increased OpEx.
That would be based on what Jason was describing earlier in our drive to invest infrastructure around those collections and collections activities, whether that’s people resources, whether that’s third parties. We also, as we continue to engage in repossession of secured assets of vehicles, powersports loans as well, that would contribute to a heightened level of overall costs that are being borne into the P and L.
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yeah, maybe just to bolt on to that, it’s also you have to look at it from a timing and sequencing perspective. We’re going to incur those costs before we see the benefit of those changes, whether it’s the bailiffs we have to contract with or other types of third party servicers or beefing up of our own internal service capability, those costs are going to hit us first before the benefit of better collections and better recovery. So we would expect, obviously, to see those numbers start to improve as we look to the overall back end of our business, but certainly on the front end when it comes to OpEx, we’ll feel it before we get the benefit. But we would have obviously taken that into consideration as we model these types of investments as we do any time we upgrade our quality and capability.
Jaime Gloin, Analyst, National Bank Financial: And just tying that theme into the delinquency rate disclosure, so the greater than one hundred and fifty days, it sounds like there’s some loans that are greater than one hundred and eighty that you have some visibility on collections. Can you maybe just dig into that figure that’s the I think it’s 104,000,000 1 hundred and 10 million dollars I can’t remember off the top of my head, that’s in that 150,000,000 plus, like how much of that would be greater than 180,000,000 and your confidence in recovering those assets and then eliminating those delinquencies?
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yeah, so what I would say is we don’t typically disclose a finer breakdown of the one, what I’ll call the 151 plus day bucket, but as you can appreciate, as a result of the backlog that we’ve been challenged by over the last, this would be now the second quarter, it’s obviously taking us about another, on average, ninety days to get recovery of these types of assets, where normally they would be pursued for a ninety day period. And by the time they get to the 180 marker, we’ve generally received principal or a decent portion of our principal. As a result, we’re not seeing that simply because of the challenges, not just faced by us as a lender, but by many lenders in the space, given the rising delinquency against the macroeconomic backdrop. But I would say we would anticipate over time that this number would gradually begin to move down as we become more adept and expert at reducing the timeframe within which we can recover and collect on these secured assets, the challenge will be, we’ve already started to see a moderation in the number of accounts that are taking the amount of time beyond this typical ninety day window in order to get recovery.
It’s obviously just going to take us a couple of more quarters to work through that population of loans. Again, not because we see the credit of the portfolio to be at risk, just simply because we’re facing a limited number of processors, bailiffs, and third parties that can help us work through the volume of these accounts, knowing full well that we intend to recover and apply roughly the same degree of recoveries that we’ve seen in keeping with previous periods. So it’s a decent number of that 100 plus million number, but again, it’s a number that we feel pretty good about being able to move down over time. And like I said, even if you look quarter on quarter, that number is beginning to gradually move down. We would expect that number to continue to improve as we move through the next few quarters.
Jaime Gloin, Analyst, National Bank Financial: Okay, great. And then maybe coming back to the OpEx and how you’re thinking through investments, it looks like technology had a little bump this quarter, but is there what’s the strategy or your near term view on managing the expense line, just given that there’s obviously a little bit higher sensitivity to macro conditions feeding through to protect your margins here over the next few quarters?
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yeah, James, I mean, what I would say is our first philosophy is always being prudent and mindful around costs and expenses. And certainly that’s at the forefront of our thoughts regardless of the environment that we’re in. You pointed out the tech piece, yes, we absolutely continue to invest in our business, in our platform, specifically projects that are underway right now with credit card launch, auto title refi that we’ve already spoken to the market quite actively around, ensuring that our customer facing platforms that we use to service our customers, continue to upgrade and make sure those are top of line. So I think those are critical components regardless of the environment that we’re in. But having said that, as we think about areas of opportunity, we’ve already, if you might have noticed within the salary lines, that has tightened up relative to the volume and the growth of the overall book.
Will we continue to be mindful around our hiring practices, third party servicing costs, as we think about sourcing and procurement, and continue to sharpen our pencils so to speak as we think about cost outlays. So I’d say as we think about the next few quarters, notwithstanding the Q1 component around the tech and the collections components, you should see that slightly moderate and there’s some timing in there based on our investments, but continue to be well within line of our overall operating margin and continued improvement in our operating leverage.
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: Thanks, guys.
Dion, Conference Operator: Your last question comes from Stephen Boland of Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Farhan Ali Khan, Chief Strategy and Corporate Development Officer, GoEZ Limited0: Thanks. I’ll be quick here. Just in terms of the numbers this quarter and your 2025 guidance, I think you said you can still hit those numbers, but if you annualize your revenue, you’re below the low end, your ROE, if we use the twenty point seven is below what you had guided to. And then for Q2, your revenue yield is going to be in this range. What gives you confidence that you can hit the guidance?
Is this going to be more towards the second half where you catch up on some of these
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: Yeah, so in terms of our confidence level with our overall annualized position, I would say that at this time, we would reaffirm the guidance that we’ve put out across all of our key metrics. As you’ve noted in terms of the yield contribution, we would see that through the course of the year while still maintaining to be within range, likely at the lower end of our overall guidance in that respect. And as we traditionally do, we’ll come back in the August timeframe as we’ve got another quarter under our belts, we’ll re examine the outlook not only for 2025, but get a sense on the read with the macroeconomic backdrop and environment in that respect, but at this point we won’t be shifting off the guidance at this time.
Farhan Ali Khan, Chief Strategy and Corporate Development Officer, GoEZ Limited0: And just the last question for me is, when you talk about tightening, obviously Jan one was a new era for you, but during the quarter after tariffs and economic uncertainty, was the tightening continually like, did that continue throughout the quarter? So by March, metrics were much different than January or February. I’m just trying to gauge how much you know, you looked at the environment and said, you know, this is getting worse, we’ve really got to be careful here.
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: So, it’s Jason here. I think it’s fair to say we’re always tightening or oscillating with the underwriting platform. I mean, we talked about this prior in COVID, where the situation was far more dire and very much uncertain. We were tightening or releasing or adjusting almost on a weekly basis in response to, at that time, what were fairly sizable shifts in the macroeconomic environment, amongst other things. I’d say over the course of the quarter, A, we continue to monitor the overall health of the portfolio, and there isn’t a week that goes by that some element of the credit risk posturing of the book isn’t either being tweaked or modified.
And I would have you think about that in a couple of different ways. One would be certainly the most obvious, which would be on the front end of the book, whereas I pointed out in previous calls, we can modify cutoff scores, debt to income criteria, and underwriting protocols pretty much within a twenty four hours timeframe notice. The other area that we can also have a fairly significant impact is in the back end or the back book, the business that’s already out the door and basically in a process of repayment. And again, we can work that book much more effectively by choosing, again, the types of offers and constructs we give to those customers when they encounter a period of difficult repayment. And as you can appreciate, that’s often in response to changes in the macroeconomic environment as well.
So those types of activities are reviewed and updated generally every week within both businesses. The only difference is we may not necessarily make those changes every week, but we will review the need for those changes every week because that’s just how we go to market on managing a non prime portfolio. So that’s just part of our go to market BAU business as usual activity, and we were doing that throughout the first quarter. And I’ll point out, we’ll continue to do that throughout every quarter. Just the scale with which we choose to make changes will only vary in response to the substantiveness of the degree of change in the broader environment.
Okay. Thanks very much, guys.
Gary Ho, Analyst, Desjardins Capital Markets: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
Hal Khoury, Chief Financial Officer, GoEZ Limited: Concludes our call today’s session.
Dion, Conference Operator: I will now turn the conference over to GoEasy Limited.
David Ingram, Executive Chairman, GoEZ Limited: Okay. Thank you, operator. Since there are no more questions, we want to thank everyone that participated on the call and, we appreciate your interest in the company. And, we’ll continue to update you and look forward to giving you the next quarterly call in August. So have a great day everyone.
Thank
Jason Appel, Chief Risk Officer, GoEZ Limited: you.
Dion, Conference Operator: This concludes today’s conference. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect your lines.
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