Earnings call transcript: Lifetime Brands reports Q1 2025 earnings miss, stock drops

Published 08/05/2025, 16:56
Earnings call transcript: Lifetime Brands reports Q1 2025 earnings miss, stock drops

Lifetime Brands Inc (NASDAQ:LCUT) reported a net loss for Q1 2025, missing earnings and revenue forecasts, which led to a significant drop in its stock price. The company posted an EPS of -$0.25 against a forecast of -$0.10, and revenue of $140.08 million, falling short of the expected $144.47 million. Following the announcement, the stock dropped 9.45%, closing at $2.98. According to InvestingPro analysis, the stock appears undervalued at current levels, with a price-to-book ratio of just 0.29x and strong free cash flow metrics.

Key Takeaways

  • Lifetime Brands missed both EPS and revenue forecasts for Q1 2025.
  • The company reported a year-over-year reduction in net loss but faced declining gross margins.
  • Stock price fell 9.45%, nearing its 52-week low.
  • E-commerce and dollar channels showed strong performance.
  • The company is relocating manufacturing to reduce dependency on China.

Company Performance

Lifetime Brands reported a net loss of $4.2 million for Q1 2025, improving from a $6.3 million loss in the same quarter last year. Despite this improvement, the company’s consolidated sales declined by 1.5%, with gross margins decreasing from 40.5% to 36.1%. The company highlighted strong performance in e-commerce and dollar channels, with notable success in its Dolly Parton product line.

Financial Highlights

  • Revenue: $140.08 million, down 1.5% year-over-year.
  • Earnings per share: -$0.25, missing forecast by $0.15.
  • Gross margin: 36.1%, down from 40.5% the previous year.
  • Liquidity: Approximately $90 million at quarter-end.
  • Adjusted EBITDA: $51 million over the trailing 12 months.

Earnings vs. Forecast

Lifetime Brands missed its EPS forecast by $0.15, with actual results at -$0.25 compared to the expected -$0.10. Revenue fell short by $4.39 million, coming in at $140.08 million against a forecast of $144.47 million. These misses highlight ongoing challenges in the company’s operational and financial performance.

Market Reaction

Following the earnings announcement, Lifetime Brands’ stock fell by 9.45%, closing at $2.98. This decline reflects investor concerns over the company’s financial performance and missed forecasts. The stock’s drop positions it near its 52-week low of $2.89, indicating negative market sentiment. InvestingPro technical indicators suggest the stock is in oversold territory, with 12 additional exclusive ProTips available to subscribers.

Outlook & Guidance

Lifetime Brands did not issue formal full-year guidance but announced planned price increases of 6-16% effective May 15. The company is focusing on operational flexibility and preparing for potential economic headwinds. InvestingPro analysts project a return to profitability this year, with an EPS forecast of $0.58 for FY2025. Subscribers can access the comprehensive Pro Research Report covering LCUT’s detailed financial health metrics, peer comparison, and expert analysis among 1,400+ US stocks. It is actively relocating 80% of its manufacturing out of China by the end of 2025 to countries like Malaysia and Vietnam.

Executive Commentary

Rob Kay, CEO of Lifetime Brands, emphasized the company’s defensive operations while seeking strategic opportunities. He noted, "We are operating defensively today while preparing to see strategic opportunities to separate us from our competitors." Kay also highlighted the intrinsic value he believes exists within the company despite current challenges.

Risks and Challenges

  • Supply chain disruptions due to manufacturing relocation.
  • Continued pressure on gross margins.
  • Volatile macroeconomic environment affecting consumer spending.
  • Retailers’ cautious inventory management impacting sales.
  • Potential impact of price increases on demand.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts inquired about the company’s ability to offset declines in the mass retail channel with growth in e-commerce and dollar channels. Management confirmed a $15 million swing in performance between these segments, with the Dolly Parton line continuing to perform strongly.

Full transcript - Lifetime Brands Inc (LCUT) Q1 2025:

Conference Operator: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Lifetime Brands First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. At this time, I would like to inform all participants that their lines will be in listen only mode. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question and answer portion of the call. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s conference, Jamie Kirchen. Mr.

Kirchen, you may begin.

Jamie Kirchen, Investor Relations, Lifetime Brands: With us today from management are Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, and Larry Winoker, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin the call, I’d like to remind you that our remarks this morning may contain forward looking statements that relate to the future performance of the company, and these statements are intended to qualify for the safe harbor protection from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Any such statements are not guarantees of future performance, and factors that could influence our results are highlighted in our earnings release, and other factors are contained in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Such statements are based upon information available to the company as of the date hereof and are subject to change for further developments. Except as required by law, the company does not undertake any obligation to update such statements.

Our remarks this morning and in our earnings release also contain non GAAP financial measures within the meaning of Regulation G promulgated by the Securities and Exchange Commission. Included in such release is a reconciliation of these non GAAP financial measures with the comparable financial measures calculated in accordance with GAAP. With that introduction, I’d like to turn the call over to Rob Kay. Please go ahead, Rob.

Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, Lifetime Brands: Thank you. As we navigate a volatile macro and political environment, we are continuously evaluating options and consequences that impact most aspects of our business. With that in mind, I will start today’s call by discussing our first quarter performance before getting into the current operating environment and Lifetime’s strategic positioning. Sales for the quarter were down slightly year over year with a more pronounced impact on gross margin due to shifts in customer and product mix. Top line performance was primarily affected by challenges in the mass channel where we experienced declines in certain product categories.

These trends mirror broader industry patterns and were driven by slower retail sales and elevated inventory levels at key mass retailers towards the end of the fourth quarter. Additionally, ordering patterns softened due to ongoing trade concerns, particularly around tariffs. Many retailers pulled back on incentives in response to rising input costs and general uncertainty as a means to prolong inventory levels in the face of potential supply disruptions later in the year. Despite headwinds in the mass channel, we achieved strong gains in e commerce, the dollar channel and club, driven by new product introductions and good point of sale sell through. These areas helped offset some of the declines and underscore the resilience of our multichannel strategy.

Uncertainty continues to define the current operating environment. Across the board and within the consumer products industry, companies are bracing for further economic headwinds and a volatile tariff policy. For retailers, this creates unpredictability around pricing, promotions, and product planning resulting in slower purchasing, cautious reordering, and extended decision cycles. All of these factors are being addressed by Lifetime as we execute and adopt our business model to maximize performance and flexibility in this environment. The first area I would like to comment on related to Lifetime’s capability in navigating the rapidly changing operating environment driven by the changes in U.

S. Trade policy and the trade policy where the company does business is that Lifetime and its management has a long successful history of navigating through economic and other external shocks and has the infrastructure to succeed in these environments. This includes substantial experience in moving product manufacturing throughout the world and the appropriate quality supply and logistics organization to continue to implement changes to our manufacturing and sourcing footprint. It is also important to note that the majority of our products that we sell are excessively priced with a selling price below $20 While we have always maintained strict operational discipline, as mentioned on prior earnings calls, the current economic environment calls for an additional response. Accordingly, we’ve taken an even firmer approach to cost management by tightening controls on variable spending, which we expect to see benefits from in the second half of the year.

Further, as previously discussed, Lifetime has been moving towards a geographically distributed sourcing and manufacturing model for nearly two years, which is now a linchpin to mitigate the risks from the uncertainty created by changes in U. S. Trade policy. We believe this strategy will optimize the flexibility for Lifetime to provide efficient and cost effective products to our end markets as an alternative to a China dependent supply chain. This includes an expansion of our MexicoMiquiladora factory in which we acquired a controlling interest a couple of years ago.

Aligned with this broader strategy, we are on track to complete the relocation of the majority or 80% of our manufacturing out of China by the end of twenty twenty five and are ramping up sourcing from alternative countries in Southeast Asia and North America, including Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, India and Mexico. In executing this strategy, we have focused on our high volume runners, which are all included in this strategy, leaving smaller production runs and slow moving items in China where it is not cost efficient to move this product for the time being. These actions will reduce the current long term tariff exposure and enhance supply chain flexibility. In fact, similar to most retailers that source direct private label products and nearly all product suppliers in general merchandise categories, we have seized importing from China any products that carry 145% tariff rate. In conjunction with our retail partners, we will begin shipping some 145 tariff items from China in the end of the second quarter to avoid out of stock situations on shelves.

These items as well as any items that are subject to increased U. S. Tariffs implemented this year will carry a higher selling price to offset tariff related costs. We have already agreed on updated pricing with nearly all of our customer base, which reflects the cost of the currently implemented tariffs in place. These price increases begin to go in effect on May 15.

Further, as noted on earlier calls, we took early action to mitigate tariff risk by starting before the election beginning in October of last year to build an import inventory from China ahead of any increase in tariffs. A positive development from the recent implemented rule changes in U. S. Trade policy has been the elimination of the de minimis loophole that allowed an unfair advantage to direct import from Chinese factories through primarily Sheen and TIMU in the e commerce channel. The escalation of tariffs on Chinese products was not applied to these transactions, creating a meaningful cost disadvantage for US based companies paying tariffs against these transactions that allowed for direct sales of products often of questionable quality at a much lower price due to having $0 of tariff to pay on these products.

The elimination of the de minimis loophole has closed this disadvantage with prices going up on average a couple of % as they are now subject to similar tariffs as other products imported from China. Lifetime and other US based companies can now compete very effectively against these e commerce platforms and their Chinese sellers. Turning to segment highlights on certain key initiatives. In food service, Lifetime’s continued investment in growing our food service platforms continues to show results as this business unit demonstrates ongoing traction with revenue growth for the quarter notwithstanding a delayed launch of the Onus Oilier Dim Glass product offering and macro driven delays of capital projects from many industry participants that has delayed decisions and orders on new tabletop products and curtailed new store openings throughout the industry. We remain optimistic in our plan for this platform in 2025 and believe we can grow revenues considerably compared to prior year.

In international, the turnaround of our international operations remains on track. Revenue in the first quarter was flat year over year in a challenging end market, while operating results improved driven by the actions we have implemented to date. Further, we are progressing rapidly on our Project CONCORD plan, which will drive meaningful improvement to profitability this year. KitchenAid, our newly introduced Jamie Oliver tabletop line and the La Cafeterre coffee and tea lines all continue to perform well internationally. We continue to focus on what we can control.

This year in response to macroeconomic and tariff related events, we’ve identified and eliminated over $10,000,000 in annual costs, paused non essential marketing and advertising, delayed select product launches, which we believe will not produce a positive ROI in this environment, and will focus on optimizing working capital through improved inventory turns and cash preservation. We continue to actively monitor the markets and all inputs and can reverse and or change these actions in response to changes in the current environment. Additionally, our distribution facility transition to the new build to suit facility in Maryland remains on track. While this transition carries a short term financial impact, we are now forecasting lower capital expenditure outlays than previously anticipated and expect to generate significant long term efficiencies and synergistic opportunities with this new facility. More recently, we have been vocal about one of our growth pillars, M and A.

While we continue to actively pursue M and A opportunities, you can imagine that today the criteria for such opportunities is continuing to be fine tuned. While valuations are becoming increasingly attractive, this comes at the cost of sacrificing predictability. Therefore, our due diligence is now increasingly conservative given the changing environment. We are focused on operating and sustaining our current portfolio first and foremost. At this point, we will continue to keep the market well informed on all strategic initiatives, M and A included.

Despite the aforementioned uncertainties, we are well positioned to absorb near term pressure and are poised to emerge stronger when economic trends become more predictable. In fact, most of our competitors who face the same macroeconomic challenges are much smaller and less favorably capitalized and will face a high burden to mitigate the impacts should the current external driven economic shocks continue. Our cost structure is built for flexibility and our early actions of shifting the geographies from which we source product have significantly reduced exposure to the existing tariff risks. Backed by a solid balance sheet and focused management team, we are operating defensively today while preparing to see strategic opportunities to separate us from our competitors. Compared to many peers, we believe we’re better positioned for both resilience and long term growth.

While the environment is fluid and to position ourselves for the utmost flexibility, we made the decision to not issue formal guidance for the full year 2025. We will evaluate this decision as the environment progresses with each future earning call. With this, we have also decided to pull back from committing to a more formal Investor Day later this year. Again, while we are confident in our positioning and the perseverance of Lifetime, this requires flexibility and navigating the short term environment may curtail some of our initial long term planning. I’ll now turn the call over to Larry to walk through more details in our financials.

Larry Winoker, Chief Financial Officer, Lifetime Brands: Thanks, Rob. As we reported this morning, net loss for first quarter of twenty twenty five was $4,200,000 or $0.19 per diluted share as compared to a loss of $6,300,000 or $0.29 per diluted share in the first quarter of twenty twenty four. Adjusted net loss was $5,300,000 for the first quarter of twenty ’5 dollars or $0.25 per diluted share, as compared to 3,200,000.0 or $0.15 per diluted share in 2024. Income from operations was 1,100,000.0 in the first quarter of twenty five as compared to 1,800,000.0 in ’24 period. And adjusted loss from operations for the first quarter of twenty five was $900,000 compared to adjusted income from operations of $5,700,000 in the ’24 period.

Adjusted EBITDA for the trailing twelve month period ended 03/31/2025 was $51,000,000 Adjusted net loss, adjusted loss from operations and adjusted EBITDA non GAAP financial measures, which are reconciled to our GAAP financial measures in the earnings release. Following comments for the first quarter of twenty twenty five and 2024, unless stated otherwise. Consolidated sales declined by 1.5% to $140,100,000 US segment sales decreased by 1.5 to $128,500,000 As Rob commented, net sales was primarily affected by the challenges in the mesh panel. Within this segment, the major product line decrease were in kitchenware and largely offset by increases in tableware and home solution products on strength at warehouse clubs, e commerce and the dollar channel. International segment sales were approximately even with the prior year period.

An increase in the Asia Pacific region was offset by a small decrease from UK national accounts. Gross margin decreased to 36.1% from 40.5. US gross margin decreased to 36.2% from 40.8%. The decline was driven by customer and product mix. International gross margin looks solid at 35.3% despite a point 6% decrease versus the prior period.

In The US segment distribution expense as a percentage of goods shipped from its warehouses was 11.9% versus 10.5%. The decrease is due to an increase in employee expenses as a result of lower labor management efficiencies on higher inventory level and planning for the move to our East Coast Distribution facility, as well as software expense for the new warehouse management system in our West Coast distribution facility. These increases were partially offset by lower freight out expense. In the international segment, distribution as a percentage of goods shipped from warehouses was 25% versus 23.6. The increase is due to higher warehouse rent, partially offset by lower freight rates.

Looking at selling, general and administrative expenses, they decreased by 20.3% to $31,500,000 US segment expenses decreased by $800,000 to $30,000,000 And as a percentage of net sales, expense decreased 23.3% from 23.6%. The decrease was driven by lower employee costs, including incentive compensation and lower legal expenses. This is partially offset by an increase in provision for doubtful accounts and an increase in amortization related to an indefinite name, definite live trade name, which was reclassified to definite live trade name in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four. International SG and A decreased by $500,000 to $3,700,000 And as a percentage of net sales, it decreased to 31.9% to 35.9%. This decrease was due to lower commissions expense and foreign currency exchange gain versus a loss in the prior year.

Unallocated corporate income was 2,200,000.0 versus an expense of 4,500,000.0 Last year, this is due to a legal settlement gain as well as lower incentive compensation. Interest expense excluding mark to market adjustment for swaps decreased to 700 decreased by 700,000 due to lower average outstanding borrowings and lower interest rates on outstanding debt. Looking at income taxes for the current quarter, the effective tax rate differs from the federal statutory rate, primarily due to foreign losses for which no tax benefit was recognized. For the prior quarter, the rate differed primarily due to equity based awards where the book expense exceeded the tax deduction and foreign losses for which no tax benefit is recognized. Given the imposition of extremely high tariff rates and uncertainty as to when or if they will be lowered, we’re especially focused on liquidity.

Our balance sheet continues to be strong. At quarter end, our liquidity was approximately $90,000,000 which included cash plus availability under our credit facility and receivable purchase agreement. Our adjusted EBITDA to net debt ratio as of the March was 3.6 times. We have been through exogenous economic shocks before, namely the great recession of two thousand and eight and COVID-nineteen. And we carefully and quickly address them.

In those situations, the lengths of the events were unknown, so we prepare for the unknown. We are using our past experience to help prepare us again. As Rob commented, to mitigate the impact of continuing high tariff regime until we can complete our resourcing plan. Among other actions, have identified and are eliminating over $10,000,000 of annualized expenses and are focused on optimizing working capital through increasing our inventory turns. This concludes our prepared comments.

Operator, please open the line for questions.

Conference Operator: Thank you. Well, now we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue.

One moment please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Anthony Lebiedzinski with Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Anthony Lebiedzinski, Analyst, Sidoti and Company: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking the questions. So first, looking at the top line, is there a way that you guys can provide some additional numbers as far as you just wanted to get sense of the magnitude of the sales decline at mass retail and conversely the sales increase that you saw in e commerce club and the dollar store channel?

Larry Winoker, Chief Financial Officer, Lifetime Brands: Yeah. The swing was like in the range of about $15,000,000

Anthony Lebiedzinski, Analyst, Sidoti and Company: Okay. Yeah. Thanks, Larry. Okay. And then can you give us an update on Dolly Parton?

Did you guys see those shipments shifting from Q4 to Q1 as you previously expected? And any additional thoughts on that?

Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, Lifetime Brands: Yes, it occurred and shipped just as expected. The program remains very strong. If you actually look at Dollar General’s releases, it usually includes a comment on value pardon. So it’s very important to them. So they say, and we continue to work with them on new programs.

So we remain very bullish and there will be year over year growth in Dolly Parton at Dollar General as well as other retailers.

Anthony Lebiedzinski, Analyst, Sidoti and Company: Thanks, Rob. And then in terms of the price increases that you’re planning to do, believe that you said May 15, which is next week. Can you give us any sense of the magnitude of those price increases and any idea as to like what the volume impact will be once you raise the prices? I know there’s a lot of uncertainty out there, but any thoughts on that would be appreciated.

Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, Lifetime Brands: So the bulk of the increases are between 616%, and that excludes the 145, which is much higher. Unknown in terms of the impact. As I mentioned in my remarks, the average ticket of what we sell is rather small. If it’s a $6 item, it may go up to $6.8.07 dollars So it’s not within the realm of the consumers affordability but there’s no visibility.

Anthony Lebiedzinski, Analyst, Sidoti and Company: Right. Okay. And then last one for me before I pass it on to others. So Rob, you also mentioned that the CapEx for the new DC will be lower. Any sort of way to put a number on that as to how to think about CapEx for this year?

Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, Lifetime Brands: So I can’t put the bucket this year versus next year because as you know, we’re spending between the two years on the capital. I think a lot of why the number is coming down is more driven from over promise or under promise, over deliver, I should say. We were conservative in our approach to this but now as we solidify the actual contractual arrangements and racking and other machinery, Those numbers were sourcing or ordering at a much lower rate than we had talked about and put in our plan. That’s because it’s now reality and we had, I think, we’re conservative in our approach. It’s 7 figures, low 7 figures impact, but we’re still working.

Anthony Lebiedzinski, Analyst, Sidoti and Company: Got it. I appreciate the color. Got it. All right. Well, thanks a lot and best of luck navigating through this current environment.

Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, Lifetime Brands: Thanks, Anthony.

Conference Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Brian McNamara with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Brian McNamara, Analyst, Canaccord Genuity: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess to start off, look, I don’t think this is an easy thing to do, but I’m curious what went into the decision to not provide guidance. We’ve seen other arguably more exposed companies to China kind of a kind of a best guess. And just given the fact that you guys typically provide guidance in Q1, investors kind of have to wait an extra quarter.

So can you walk through kind of the puts and takes there on that giving some kind of directional indicators?

Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, Lifetime Brands: Yeah, sure, Brian. And we understand the benefit, particularly from your seat, and why we’ve always given guidance. Two things, look, we did look at the rest of the world and people have provided, people have not. I think the main reason is there’s lack of visibility. If one was to guide in this environment, it’s a bit of a swag.

Maybe we’re a bit more conservative but we felt that with a tremendous lack of visibility, here’s what’s going to happen tomorrow and change and the like. It was driven from that perspective, we thought it best to withhold at this point guidance.

Brian McNamara, Analyst, Canaccord Genuity: And then secondly, it’s great to see your aggressive push to kind of move out of China. But I guess the counterpoint to that would be why hasn’t that been done already? And obviously, I’m not making it sound like this is easy to do, but that’s a question we expect to get from folks.

Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, Lifetime Brands: Yeah, no, absolutely understand. So yeah, a lot of it has. I mentioned a bunch of geographies we’re already shipping from them. So a lot of it has. I mentioned the Mexico facility, we’ve ramped that up or we acquired that and we’ve been ramping it up.

Fortunately, it hit full production, which we are now expanding, aside the point, it hit full production just before the tariffs started getting implemented. So we’ve been ramping this up. We could have ramped it up quicker if we were going to spend a lot of capital in actually investing in these facilities, but we’re not using our capital and using third party partners to do this. So that slows you down a little bit because obviously they’re reluctant until they wait to see that situation where they had to do it. So I can say that the feedback that we’ve gotten from our retail customer base is because we’ve shared the detail and the transition plans.

Because if you think we’re passing price increases, but we’re also showing, look, this is where you’re covered by inventory and covered by new stuff on a lower geography coming in. So the feedback we’ve gotten universally is that we’re substantially ahead of the industry in terms of moving product out of China. So we may have phrased it in a way that gave you the wrong impression, but we are actively moving and have already shipping from many of these geographies.

Brian McNamara, Analyst, Canaccord Genuity: Given your kind of relatively low price point, what do you think the elasticity of a significant price increase would be on demand relative to your history? And this is obviously understanding this is a unique time, but there’s a school of thought that suggests that maybe this pushes more demand into private label and things like that. How would you expect your products to react to or your markets to react to significant price increases?

Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, Lifetime Brands: Yeah, historically, there’s been a relatively healthy ability for our products to sell similarly in high rising cost environments. I always use the example people have heard me on can openers, which are single biggest skew and people don’t exactly, if they need a can opener and it’s $6 and now that can openers, let’s be extreme, say it’s $9 They’re not going to go and use a hammer and screwdriver to open up can. We’ve seen historically and again, we’re not a startup. We’ve got a lot of data that there’s been relative little impact in many of our product categories. Foodservice, while it’s relatively inelastic for any price increases, in other words, they don’t really react at all for price increases but in rising cost environments, people tend to eat more at home that will help us but if food service tends to do worse, people spend less money in restaurants and traveling.

But again, historically, if you look at poor economic environments and rising cost environments, people tend to eat home. That means they need our products.

Brian McNamara, Analyst, Canaccord Genuity: Great. And then finally, I’m just curious, look, the stock hasn’t performed well. A lot of this stuff is out of your control. I’m just curious what your message would be to shareholders or potential shareholders at these levels here? Thank you.

Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, Lifetime Brands: Yeah, look, we strongly believe there’s a big intrinsic value gap. Insiders, including the board control about 40% of the company. So we think there’s a big intrinsic value gap and in the right conditions, we will work hard to make sure that gap is realized in the stock price. We think there’s a lot of upside but short term and it appears that the segment is not in favor but the fundamentals are very strong. It’s a big value play, tremendous cash flow generation.

So we think it’s a very strong story over the long term.

Brian McNamara, Analyst, Canaccord Genuity: Thanks very much. Appreciate the color and best of luck.

Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, Lifetime Brands: Thank you, Brian.

Conference Operator: Thank you. As there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to Robert Kaye for closing comments.

Rob Kay, Chief Executive Officer, Lifetime Brands: Thank you very much. Thank you, everyone, for listening in on our call. And we hope to be in touch shortly with continued updates. Have a good day.

Conference Operator: Thank

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