Earnings call transcript: Logista Q4 2025 shows mixed results with stock dip

Published 06/11/2025, 11:12
 Earnings call transcript: Logista Q4 2025 shows mixed results with stock dip

Logista reported its Q4 2025 earnings with mixed results, reflecting both growth and challenges. The company achieved total economic sales of €1.8 billion, marking a 3% year-over-year increase. However, net profit fell by 9% to €281 million, and earnings per share (EPS) decreased slightly to €2.30 from €2.34 last year. Despite these challenges, Logista’s free cash flow improved significantly to €483 million, up from €225 million in 2024. The stock dipped 0.14% in pre-market trading, reflecting investor concerns.

Key Takeaways

  • Logista’s total economic sales grew by 3% YoY, reaching €1.8 billion.
  • Net profit declined by 9% YoY, with EPS slightly down to €2.30.
  • Free cash flow more than doubled to €483 million.
  • Stock price decreased by 0.14% in pre-market trading.
  • The company continues to focus on sustainability and innovation.

Company Performance

Logista’s Q4 2025 results highlight both achievements and areas needing improvement. The company saw a modest increase in total economic sales, driven by its focus on expanding new generation products and enhancing its distribution segments, particularly in the pharmaceutical sector. However, the decline in net profit and EPS indicates ongoing challenges, particularly in the traditional tobacco markets where volumes fell in key regions such as France, Italy, and Spain.

Financial Highlights

  • Revenue: €1.8 billion, up 3% YoY
  • Net profit: €281 million, down 9% YoY
  • Earnings per share: €2.30, down from €2.34 in 2024
  • Free cash flow: €483 million, up from €225 million in 2024
  • Adjusted EBIT: €378 million, down 2% YoY

Market Reaction

Logista’s stock experienced a slight decrease of 0.14% in pre-market trading. This movement reflects investor concerns over the decline in net profit and the challenges in the tobacco sector, despite growth in other areas. The stock is currently trading close to its 52-week low, indicating cautious market sentiment.

Outlook & Guidance

Looking forward, Logista expects adjusted EBIT to grow at a mid-single-digit rate in 2026. The company plans to continue its dividend distribution strategy and explore mergers and acquisitions, particularly in the pharmaceutical sector in Italy and new generation tobacco products. No major acquisitions are planned in the transport sector, as the company focuses on restructuring existing operations.

Executive Commentary

Íñigo Meiras, CEO of Logista, emphasized the company’s commitment to sustainability and operational excellence. "Logista remains focused on delivering sustainability growth, operational excellence, and long-term value creation," Meiras stated. He also highlighted the company’s ongoing efforts to improve operating results across its businesses and countries.

Risks and Challenges

  • Declining tobacco volumes, particularly in France (-9%), pose a challenge.
  • Regulatory concerns, such as potential EU tobacco taxation, could impact future performance.
  • Weak demand in the transportation sector may affect revenue growth.
  • The company’s cautious approach to acquisitions may limit expansion opportunities.
  • Ongoing restructuring efforts in the transport business may lead to short-term disruptions.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts inquired about regulatory challenges, particularly the potential impact of EU tobacco taxation. The company reiterated its cautious approach to future acquisitions, especially after the performance of El Mosca. Logista also addressed its ongoing restructuring efforts in the transport sector, which are expected to continue through 2026.

Full transcript - Logista (LOG) Q4 2025:

Isabel Troya, Head of Investor Relations, Logista: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Logista’s full year 2025 results presentation. I’m Isabel Troya, Head of Investor Relations for Logista, and today, Íñigo Meiras, our CEO, and Pedro Losada, our CFO, will go through the results for the year. We’ll conclude with a Q&A session at the end of the call, where we will answer the questions you have submitted through the platform. You can write your questions at any time during the presentation. Now, Íñigo will proceed with the results. Íñigo, if you may.

Íñigo Meiras, CEO, Logista: Thank you, Isabel, and good morning to all joining us today. During fiscal year 2025, we recorded a positive growth in economic sales across main segments in both Iberia and Italy, with particularly strong performance in tobacco and pharma in these two regions. This growth was further supported by a robust profit on inventory recorded in all three regions. In 2025, profit on inventory reached a significant EUR 45 million, up from EUR 35 million last year, following changes in tax and retail prices in all regions. This marks the third consecutive year in which we have recorded a substantial profit on inventory, driven by tobacco pricing movements. The Board of Directors will propose a final dividend for fiscal year 2025, which equals last year’s amount, in line with our commitment to distribute at least the same dividend as 2024, despite the need to increase the payout ratio.

In relation to our ESG commitment, we will update you with the KPIs for the period in relation to our 2024-2026 Sustainability Plan. In the following pages, I will give you further details of these main highlights. During our 2025 fiscal year, we have recorded increases in economic sales in our main businesses in Iberia and Italy, completing the year with a total economic sales of EUR 1.8 billion, which represents a 3% year-on-year growth. In terms of the split period, Iberia reached economic sales of EUR 1.1 billion, Italy recorded EUR 434 million, and France EUR 200 million. At yesterday, for the year, amounted to EUR 378 million, representing a 2% decline on last year’s figures. This includes EUR 45 million of profit on inventory recorded after changes in tobacco taxes and prices in all three regions.

Net profit reached EUR 281 million, a 9% decline compared to last year, given, among others, the lower interest rates recorded for the period. During the year, we recorded a total of EUR 73 million of financial income, which is EUR 30 million lower than the EUR 103 million of last year. This shows the strong interest rate drops, as we have had an average interest rate for this year of 3.54% compared to 4.85% last year. Later on, we will dive deeper into each of these regions. As previously mentioned, during the period, we recorded a total of EUR 45 million in profit on inventory. This was a result of changes in tobacco excise taxes and retail pricing across all three of our key markets. In Spain, excise taxes increased significantly compared to the modest adjustments seen in 2022 and 2023.

Particularly, the government introduced a new taxation on products containing nicotine but not tobacco, such as vaping devices and nicotine pouches. For traditional tobacco, the average tax increase was equivalent to approximately EUR 20 per pack, to which manufacturers responded by increasing retail prices by EUR 40 per pack. In Italy, we also saw tax and price increases. The average tax hike for traditional tobacco was around EUR 0.10 per pack, with retail prices rising between EUR 10 and EUR 30 per pack. In France, the government continued its policy to increase tobacco taxes to curb consumption, although at a slower pace than in the previous year. This year, the average tax increase was of EUR 0.25 per pack, with manufacturers responding with price hikes as to EUR 50 per pack. The resulting profit on inventory has helped partially offset the impact of lower financial income and weaker performance in some of our transport businesses.

Following our commitment to remunerate our shareholders, at the next annual shareholders’ meeting in February 2026, we will propose to distribute a total dividend of EUR 277 million, same figure as for 2024. This will include a final dividend for fiscal year 2025 of EUR 1.53 per share, which, together with the interim dividend of EUR 0.56 per share distributed last August, will amount to EUR 2.09 per share. Total dividend represents a 99% payout ratio, increasing our distribution to maintain a stable dividend even though net profit has declined by 9%. Once the complementary dividend for 2025 has been paid, we will have already distributed close to EUR 2 billion since our IPO back in 2014. This represents a total return for our shareholders since the IPO of 236%, considering all dividends paid and share price appreciation up to the end of the period.

Moving on to our sustainability highlight, I will give you some details on the progress of our sustainability plan for 2024-2026. In environmental matters, we remain firmly committed to decarbonizing our fleet, recognizing that transportation services account for 96% of our total emissions. A key part of this effort is increasing the number of kilometers traveled using Euro 6 vehicles, which are significantly more sustainable and emit less pollution than older models. This year, we have reached 85% of total kilometers with Euro 6 vehicles, keeping us on track to meet our 2026 target of 90%. In circular economy matters, we continue to advance our initiative to recycle NGP devices by installing dedicated recycling boxes in tobacconists and overseeing the full recycling process. The program is now active in all three countries, with Spain and France currently in the ramp-up phase.

Across these markets, we have currently deployed recycling boxes in over 33,400 points of sales, having almost reached the 2026 target. In social matters, talent is a cornerstone of our success and competitiveness. To reinforce this, we have established a target to achieve 95% talent density rate in critical positions by 2026. At GRN, we reached 90%, and we continue to work on increasing this metric. Diversity is another key pillar of our social strategy. We have set a target to reach 30% female representation in upper and middle management by 2026, a milestone that we have already surpassed, achieving 32% this year. We remain committed to maintaining this balance. In government matters, we have renewed our ISO 37001, ISO 37002, and EN ISO 19600 certifications, reaffirming our commitment to the highest standards of corporate governance.

Following the approval of our new data protection policy by the Board of Directors, we have launched a mandatory training for employees to raise awareness and ensure compliance with the critical area. Now, I will hand over to Pedro so he can give you more details for each of the regions and businesses.

Pedro Losada, CFO, Logista: Thank you, Íñigo, and good morning to all connected today. Starting with Iberia, our largest market, economic sales increased by 3% to EUR 1,181 million, while adjusted EBIT declined by 5% to EUR 191 million. Looking into each segment, in the tobacco segment, total volume in Spain and Portugal decreased by 0.4% year-on-year after a decline in traditional cigarette volumes in Spain, minus 0.8%, which was offset by an increase in traditional tobacco and roll-your-own and NGPs in Portugal. We recorded a profit on inventory of EUR 34 million, driven by the increase in tobacco taxes and retail prices in Spain, which Íñigo described previously. We also made progress in our recycling initiative, reaching 1,443 tobacconists in Spain, doubling the figure from last year. In the transportation segment, we have been sharing throughout the different quarterly results the low performance of the business of El Mosca and the frozen activity.

Particularly, long-distance transport was impacted by this lowdown in European demand and various macroeconomic challenges, which I will describe a bit more in the following slide. The frozen business line has suffered also from macroeconomic headwinds and increasing competition, which has led to the loss of clients against competitors. We have implemented several cost control measures to improve the business, and we continue to seek further measures we can take while setting new sales plans to recover the lost income. However, industrial parcels show sustainable growth, supported by increased deliveries, which has offset the underperformance of Carbó. The courier business has recorded a very good performance in Spanish and Portuguese operations, with a high single-digit growth rate, which has been completed by the full annual consolidation of Belgian purchase services in Belgium.

Pharma economic sales grew by 10%, supported by new agreements with laboratories and expanded services to existing clients, with a strong performance on the pharmacy channel. Other businesses recorded a reduction in distributed volumes, which has led to a decline in economic sales. As we have been explaining during the different quarterly results, transport sales at El Mosca have had a challenging year. We acquired the company back in October 2022 through an initial stake of 60% and acquired the remaining stake at different points in time, reaching 100% by August 2024. During the year 2023, the first signs of a slowdown in the transportation industry came to light with the Red Sea conflict and strong inflationary pressure. This situation intensified during our fiscal year 2024, with turmoil in the industry and the first signs of demand weakness in Europe.

The year 2025 has presented a significant challenge for the company. We faced luggage demand across Europe and margin compression in the transportation sector, largely due to inflationary pressures, impacts that were particularly pronounced in El Mosca business. Besides, this year’s harvest was adversely affected by various weather events, resulting in a reduced yield of fruits and vegetables, which is the largest business for El Mosca’s road transportation. Since we acquired 100% of the company, we have put in place certain measures to help revert the situation, such as changes in the management or the implementation of control and compliance procedures to safeguard daily operations and improve governance within the company. We have also worked on improving the quality of the analytic data to allow for better-informed decisions. As a result of these measures, certain non-operating one-off negative impacts have arisen, further worsening the annual results.

Furthermore, we are taking different actions to improve the profitability of the company. Some measures include optimizing the client mix, focusing on clients who demand international transportation, and renegotiating clients’ conditions. Lastly, within El Mosca, I would like to mention that we are working on completing the optimization between El Mosca road transportation business and Logista Freight. Where Logista Freight is taking over the fleet planification and route assignment, implementing further cross-selling actions with pharma business and allocating fee capacity of Mosca to Freight to optimize the use of the vehicles. Moving on to Italy. Economic sales reached EUR 434 million, reflecting a growth of 8% compared to the previous year. Adjusted EBIT increased by 11%, reaching EUR 134 million. During the year, total tobacco volumes declined by 0.9%. This decline results from a 2% decline in traditional tobacco, which was partially compensated with an increase in roll-your-own and other categories.

Particularly, H&V stick units recorded a healthy annual growth. In response to the government’s tax increase, manufacturers raised retail prices for tobacco, which helped offset the impact of the tax hike. As a result, we recorded a profit on inventory of EUR 7 million compared to the EUR 6 million in the previous year. As you may recall, in 2024, we began distributing tobacco in the Netherlands on behalf of a major manufacturer. This business has continued to expand, consolidating the service offered to tobacco manufacturers in the region. In the convenience distribution segment, our recycling initiative has gained traction with 30,700 tobacconists across Italy now participating in the recycling program for NGP devices. Finally, in our pharmaceutical division, we have achieved double-digit growth in economic sales through organic expansion with new contracts with laboratories and renegotiations with existing clients.

We have also opened a new pharma warehouse in northern Italy, which will accelerate our expansion in this business in Italy. In France, economic sales declined by 7% year-on-year, reaching EUR 200 million, while adjusted EBIT fell by 15% to EUR 53 million, mainly due to a lower contribution from profit on inventory, which amounted to EUR 4 million compared to EUR 8 million in full year fiscal year 2024. As in Spain and Italy, the French government implemented tax increases, followed by a 0.50 EUR per pack price hike by tobacco manufacturers. These changes had a positive impact on inventory valuation, though much lower than in the previous year. Tobacco volumes distributed in France saw a 9% decline, continuing the trend of faster volume contraction compared to Spain and Italy. In the convenience product segment, USF continued growth in electronic transactions, particularly in e-money recharge cards.

Additionally, more tobacconists are adopting our Stratos software and hardware as their point of sale system, enhancing their service offering with personalized features. Finally, our NGP device recycling initiative in France has expanded, with 1,300 tobacconists now participating. After giving you the details of each region, we will move into the consolidated figures for the period. Total adjusted EBIT for the year amounted to EUR 378 million, reflecting a 2% decrease compared to 2024. This decline was primarily driven by the underperformance of certain businesses within the transport activity and the volume contraction in France, despite positive contributions from tobacco and pharma in Iberia and Italy. Economic sales grew by 3% year-on-year, supported by strong activity in pharma and tobacco in Spain and Italy and relevant profit on inventory, which helped offset the mentioned underperformance from some transport business lines. Reported EBIT reached EUR 318 million, also down 2% from the previous year.

This figure includes restructuring costs of EUR 5 million, slightly higher than the EUR 4 million recorded last year, and was partially offset by capital gains of EUR 6 million from the sale of certain assets in Spain. At the bottom line, net profit decreased by 9%, reaching EUR 281 million, mainly due to the lower financial results for the period. Financial income dropped to EUR 73 million compared to EUR 103 million last year, a EUR 30 million decrease because of the decline in interest rates throughout the year. As you may recall, 2023 and 2024 were marked by exceptionally high interest rates. Last year ended at a reference rate of 4.1% plus a margin of 75 basis points. The European Central Bank began cutting rates in June 2024, once inflation stabilized.

Consequently, full year 2025 closed with a reference rate of 2.71% plus a margin of 75 basis points on our credit line with Imperial Brands. The average credit line balance during the period was EUR 1,985 million, slightly below the EUR 2,048 million in the previous year. Additionally, the declining profit before tax led to a EUR 10 million reduction in tax expense, with a slightly lower corporate tax of 26.3% compared to the 26.5% last year. We conclude the period with earnings per share of EUR 2.3 versus EUR 2.34 for fiscal year 2024. EBITDA for the year remained flat at EUR 495 million, consistent with the previous year, reflecting a solid business performance and the contribution from profit on inventory. Financial income collected amounted to EUR 72 million, down from EUR 101 million last year due to the impact of lower interest rates during the period. Restructuring and other costs paid totaled EUR 7 million.

While normalized taxes reached EUR 114 million. CapEx for the year stood at EUR 54 million, including investments in warehouse improvements, sorters, and automatic loading deck and maintenance. Lease payments amounted to EUR 76 million, and we closed the period with a normalized cash flow of EUR 315 million. We conclude the year with a free cash flow of EUR 483 million, significantly above the EUR 225 million recorded in fiscal year 2024, thanks to the positive working capital movements. Lastly, our final cash position for the year amounted to EUR 2.6 billion, reinforcing our financial strength and flexibility. Looking into our stock performance for the year, Logista delivered a total shareholders’ return of 9% for 2025, reflecting the strength of our business fundamentals and our continued commitment to shareholder value. Our share price increased by 7% over the period, closing the fiscal year at EUR 28.9 per share of a market cap of EUR 3.8 billion.

During the year, we reached our maximum share price of EUR 31 per share in May. Now, I will hand over back to Íñigo so he can go through the final remarks and outlook for the next year. Íñigo. Thank you, Pedro. To close, I’d like to highlight four key takeaways from this fiscal year. First, our annual financial performance was solid, supported by good performance for tobacco and pharma in Italy and Spain, and a strong profit on inventory, which helped offset lower interest rates, volume declines in France, and the underperformance of El Mosca. Second, we continue to seek excellence in our business, aiming to improve our operating results for our businesses and countries. Third, our ESG commitment remains a cornerstone of our strategy. Through the execution of our 2024-2026 sustainability plan, we have made meaningful progress in environmental, social, and governance initiatives.

Finally, we are increasing our payout during 2025 to distribute a stable dividend, reinforcing our long-standing commitment to shareholder returns. Logista remains focused on delivering sustainability growth, operational excellence, and long-term value creation. Looking ahead for 2026, we expect adjusted EBIT, excluding profit on inventory, to grow at a mid-single-digit rate, supported by the continued strength of our core businesses and disciplined cost management. We remain committed to our diversification strategy, actively seeking small and mid-sized acquisitions that enhance our geographical footprint and expand our business portfolio. We reaffirm our commitment to remunerate our shareholders, hence we intend to distribute during 2026 at least the same dividend as in 2025. Now, we will proceed with the Q&A session. Isabel, please, if you may. Many thanks for the presentation. We will now continue with the Q&A session, going through the questions that we received. The first question comes from.

Alantra Equities. They have a few questions. First is the impact of El Mosca and Carbó on the 2025 results. Is there more restructuring to be done in full year 2026, or are you done? What level of contribution at EBIT level could we expect from those companies going forward? Another question on regulatory update on tobacco distribution and the EU plans to regulate tobacco directly. Okay, thanks, Juan. This is Pedro Losada. Thanks for your question. Let me take the first three related to El Mosca and Carbó and answer you in one. As you know, we do not disclose the level of results provided by each of the specific businesses in our results. It’s true that once we explained during the presentation that, apart from El Mosca and Carbó and the results in France, everything goes as expected during the year.

You can make some proxy with the results versus 2024 that has been lower. We mentioned during the presentation the measures, particularly on El Mosca. Also, as you can imagine, in Carbó, it’s becoming more and more difficult to provide any numbers around and impacts since we are getting faster integration with freight in the case of El Mosca and with parcel in the case of Carbó. It’s also important to mention that the years have been challenging and Mosca in recording losses during the year. These losses and a new business plan, a more conservative one from the initial, we’ve made the view that resulted in an impairment regarding Logista Integral individual accounts. We did not mention this in the presentation because it only has an impact on the individual P&L of Logista Integral and not any impact at all in the consolidated figures, neither on the.

Dividend payment. The last part of your question is when this recovering, we are speeding up, as I mentioned, with the integration with freight on one hand and parcel in the case of Carbó. We will probably need the whole 2026 to turn this around. In the case of Carbó, maybe we can speed up the process, but probably during 2026, we are going to still see some restructuring in both companies. Hello, good morning, and thank you, Juan, for your second question regarding the regulatory update. I think that there are two different dimensions on that. The first one is the draft of a new anti-tobacco law in Spain that you know is. There is one approval by the ministers in Spain, and I need to follow the legal processes. In any case, at the end, we have to do something there.

We are assuming that the final approval, if any, of these new regulations will be approved by the end of summer or by the end of summertime 2026, which means that it’s not affecting this coming fiscal year. Let’s see what happens with 2027. With the new measures, if at the end the new law is approved with the current draft, probably it’s affecting the tobacco volumes in Spain, but our first view on that is not a dramatic negative impact in the tobacco volumes in Spain. The second one is what happens with the European Union plans to regulate tobacco directly, which means to impose an extra tax other than at the national level. This is something that is at the very beginning stages, and we have to assume that if any go live, probably the final approval.

Should come to the market by the end of 2028 or 2029, which means at least we need to run for a process of more than three years. This is why as of today, we believe that this is not a clear risk short term for the business and for the sector as well. Let’s see what happened there. In between, as you know, at European level, a new tax at European level for tobacco needs the approval of the members of the European Union, of the states. As of today, as you know, there are at least five or six countries that did not agree even to go ahead with this discussion in the beginning stage as they are today. Thanks for the answers. There’s another question as well from Alantra.

Is there a reason for financial income in Q4 being higher than in previous quarters beyond the higher average cash balance? Hi, thanks, Juan. No, there’s no reason beyond the average cash balance. Bear in mind that typically this is the seasonality of the cash in Logista business, particularly in tobacco. When you take the first nine months, average cash used to be lower in the last quarters. Just to give you a sense, on 2024, we are year to date in the first nine months of EUR 1.9 billion, where on the Q4 we had EUR 2.4 billion. More or less same trend on 2025 with EUR 1.8 billion during the first nine months and EUR 2.5 billion in Q4. Thank you. Next question is from Grupo Santander. There’s a first question on El Mosca, which I believe has already been answered. Then is outlook for POIs in 2026.

Are you expecting further significant price increases? The next question is, any acquisition opportunities currently on your radar? Could you clarify what types of segments are you looking forward? Hi, Ricardo, Íñigo speaking again. Regarding the outlook for POI in 2026, as you know, this is not in our hands. In any case, I think that we can be positive with the current trend, let’s say, in the three markets, which means that you probably see some tax increases and price increases by the tobacco manufacturers will imply a positive impact for POI, but we do not have a clear estimation for next year. Regarding the acquisition opportunities, do we have something or not in our radar? Yes. I think that today we are following three or four opportunities, at least in the first.

Half of the year, we are following an opportunity in the pharma sector in Italy. Bigger than the previous one, which was pharmaceutics, but this is not difficult because pharmaceutics was only to acquire a small platform in Italy. In any case, it’s not a very big one, but we believe that this is a good opportunity for us. If at the end we arrive at an agreement with the sellers, we are in discussion with them on a bilateral basis. It is quite complementary with our current regional presence in Italy because we are mostly focusing on Rome and from Rome to the south and northern Rome area. This new acquisition can add to us a national presence in Italy. Other sectors than pharma in Italy, I think that we are considering a new opportunity.

In the tobacco sector, but mostly driving because it’s a company that is mostly focused on the new generation products and more than in traditional tobacco. As far as we see, there is a growth in that sector. We are analyzing if that’s quite, can fit well or not with our current strategy. Taking into account, as I always say, the strategy of the company is to try to move the core business from tobacco to non-tobacco without any pressure in terms of timing. If in between we find an opportunity like that, we have the idea to analyze in detail, and this is something for this 2026. In the transport sector, Pedro already mentioned, the thinking by the management company is to be focused into the restructuring and integration of mostly El Mosca, but Carbó as well.

Because of that, it’s not a priority for the time being. Thank you. The next question is from Bastinberg. Could you give us more details on the current demand situation in Europe? When do you expect the measures taken to bear fruit? Are you maintaining your strategy of growth in the segment? There is a question on M&A. Is new M&A viable considering that the payout will have to be increased to maintain the dividend level? Okay, Beatriz, thank you for the two questions, and I take the two. Regarding the first one, which is in terms of the fruit sector, I think that the strategy at the beginning was to get some exposure to this segment, but as of today, we are happy with the exposure that we have through the acquisition of El Mosca. It will be something that is organically, but we do not see.

An opportunity to grow more in that sector through inorganic growth or through an acquisition. Regarding the market, now it is starting the peak on the fruit segment. Let’s see what happens, but we are a little bit more positive than last year. In terms of M&A versus payout, I think that we already said before during the presentation, the dividend policy is a priority for the company and is a cornerstone in our strategy. The right answer is to say yes, that I think that we can manage the current payout level and to take action and to be more active on M&A opportunities for the time being as far as we are looking for small and mid-sized companies. Next question is from BNP Paribas.

We still see some deterioration in Iberia margins at similar levels as Q3, despite the measures taken to solve the issues with El Mosca. Could you detail the initiatives taken and do you expect a turnaround in Iberia margins in the coming quarters? There is another one regarding M&A, which is how is the M&A situation after several years without big activity? Does the performance of El Mosca make you more cautious on what to acquire? Thank you. Paco will take the first one. The main reason for the margin deterioration in Iberia is coming from El Mosca and Carbó. For further details, we have already mentioned most of them in El Mosca, looking for integration with freight, changing new management, simplifying the company’s structure, revenue optimization, trying to find more, shift to more international transfer where the optimization of the tariffs is even higher.

Many things that we have a little bit explained further in the presentation with El Mosca. When it comes to Carbó, we are even accelerating more that integration with Parcel, that both Parcel and Carbó have had healthy growth during 2025, but we have a lot of work to do in that integration. We also changed the leadership to lead that Carbó-Parcel integration. Integration in the distribution network in Carbó, obviously. Cost control, but more flexibility on distribution costs, subcontracting certain routes. Extra commercial efforts, so putting a lot of effort on the top line, keep on increasing and gaining more clients in a profitable way, and also through the integration and optimization of routes and use of the warehouses and rents of those warehouses, trying to find the appropriate cost structure to make the final turnaround. Okay, Paco, and this is Íñigo speaking regarding the M&A.

I think that, as you already mentioned, we have the idea to be more active or more focused on M&A in 2026. Because I mentioned to you before, during 2025, we decided to be more focused on the integration of restructuring of El Mosca and Carbó. Regarding the performance of El Mosca, we have to be more cautious or not in the acquisitions. The fair answer is to say yes. I think that in the transport sector, we have to be more cautious on that, taking into consideration our current experience with El Mosca. Next question from Kepler Cheuvreux. Are you seeing further improvements in Q1 2026 in France tobacco distribution volumes after a better Q4 2025? Another question is, Logista said it was considering a relevant M&A operation in 2025. Why is that being delayed?

Íñigo speaking, Julián, regarding the France tobacco volumes, I think that you are right. The Q4 was better than the trend, the trend coming from the previous quarters. Let’s see what happens in France. I think that now the French government, when the price of a pack that is over EUR 13 per pack, is less aggressive in tariff increases, and probably we see some stabilization on the volumes in France. We are not sure. In the budget regarding the French unit, we are being very conservative. I already said that. For last fiscal year, 2024-2025, we took a decision to be more focused on the integration of the companies. Because of that, more than a delay, we put on hold a couple of opportunities. Now, on 2026.

I already said we have the idea to be more active on that and to reactivate any operation that we had in the pipeline in the past. Thank you. Next question comes from Kaishabak. Why the slowdown at economic sales and pharma division in Iberia during Q4, plus 4% in Q4 versus plus 12% in the nine months? The next question is, what non-recurring costs do you expect for 2026 relating with the restructure of El Mosca? Hi, Felipe. This is Pedro speaking. The slowdown on pharma has pretty much calendar effects. When you compare with 2024, we had an advance campaign of solar products in Q3, so it compares different. There has been a delay in the vaccine campaign in Q4, so we are going to see later. Overall, when you see different.

Growth on nine months versus Q4, 2024, 2025, it could look different, but the overall growth, as you can see, remains the same. Okay, sorry. On the one-off, yeah. The one-off is linked to non-operating matters, which we are currently reviewing in depth. We can give much more information other than confirming that this is only applicable to fiscal year 2025 and will not roll over to 2026. Thank you very much. The rest of the questions that came in have been answered throughout the other questions that we have received, and we have no new questions coming. Thank you, everybody, for joining us for our full year presentation, and we’re available at Investor Relations whenever needed. Thank you.

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