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Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp. (PZA) reported its third-quarter earnings for 2025, revealing a slight miss on both earnings per share (EPS) and revenue forecasts. Despite a 2% increase in royalty pool system sales, the company's EPS came in at 0.236 CAD, slightly below the expected 0.24 CAD. Revenue reached 158.8 million CAD, missing the forecast of 160.6 million CAD. Following the announcement, Pizza Pizza's stock fell by 2.69% in after-hours trading, closing at 14.84 CAD, down from the previous close of 15.25 CAD.
Key Takeaways
- Pizza Pizza's Q3 EPS and revenue both slightly missed forecasts.
- Stock price declined by 2.69% in after-hours trading.
- Royalty pool system sales increased by 2% to 158.8 million CAD.
- The company is focusing on expanding its traditional network and international presence.
Company Performance
Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp. demonstrated a modest growth in its royalty pool system sales, which increased by 2% to 158.8 million CAD. The sales of Pizza Pizza restaurants rose by 2.3% to 138 million CAD, while Pizza 73 sales remained stable at 20.8 million CAD. However, the company faced challenges such as heightened competition and reduced consumer spending, which affected customer transaction volumes.
Financial Highlights
- Revenue: 158.8 million CAD (up 2% year-over-year)
- EPS: 0.236 CAD (slightly below forecast of 0.24 CAD)
- Royalty income: 10.2 million CAD (up 1.9% year-over-year)
- Dividends: 5.7 million CAD declared (0.2325 CAD per share)
Earnings vs. Forecast
Pizza Pizza's EPS of 0.236 CAD fell short of the anticipated 0.24 CAD, marking a surprise of -1.67%. Revenue also missed expectations, coming in at 158.8 million CAD against a forecast of 160.6 million CAD, a negative surprise of -1.11%. These results indicate a slight underperformance compared to market expectations.
Market Reaction
Following the earnings announcement, Pizza Pizza's stock experienced a decline of 2.69%, closing at 14.84 CAD. This movement reflects investor disappointment in the company's earnings miss. The stock is now trading closer to its 52-week low of 12.47 CAD, highlighting the impact of the earnings report on market sentiment.
Outlook & Guidance
Looking forward, Pizza Pizza aims to grow its traditional network by 2-3% in the fourth quarter and continue its international expansion in Mexico, where it currently operates four locations. The company is also working on redesigning its loyalty program and enhancing its ordering platforms to boost customer engagement.
Executive Commentary
Philip Gudro, one of the company's executives, stated, "We're sharpening our value messaging, optimizing partnerships and promotions," emphasizing the company's strategic focus on value and partnerships. Christine D'Sylva highlighted the potential of the Mexican market, stating, "The Mexican pizza market is actually greater than the American pizza market."
Risks and Challenges
- Heightened competition and reduced consumer spending could further impact sales.
- Changes in consumer behavior, such as reduced visit frequency, may affect transaction volumes.
- Macroeconomic pressures and weather-related disruptions could pose additional challenges.
Q&A
During the earnings call, analysts inquired about the shifts in consumer behavior and the impact of weather and tourism on sales. Management addressed these concerns by highlighting improvements in delivery times and ongoing efforts to expand in the Mexican market.
Full transcript - Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp. (PZA) Q3 2025:
Conference Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp. earnings call for the third quarter of 2025. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star and then the number one on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded on November 5th, 2025. I will now turn the call over to Christine D'Sylva, CFO.
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp.'s earnings call for the third quarter ended September 30, 2025. Joining me on the call today is Pizza Pizza Limited's Chief Operating Officer, Philip Gudro. Just a quick note, our discussion today will contain forward-looking statements that may involve risks relating to future events. Actual events may differ materially from the projections discussed today. All forward-looking statements should be considered in conjunction with the cautionary language in our earnings press release and the risk factors included in our annual information form. Please refer to the earnings press release and the MD&A in the investor relations section of our website for a reconciliation and other disclosures related to non-IFRS financial measures mentioned on this call. As a reminder, analysts are welcome to ask questions after the prepared remarks. Portfolio managers, media, and shareholders can contact us after the call.
With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Philip to introduce himself and provide a business update.
Philip Gudro, Chief Operating Officer, Pizza Pizza Limited: Thank you, Christine, and good morning, everyone. As Christine mentioned, my name is Philip Gudro. I'm the Chief Operating Officer at Pizza Pizza Limited, and I'm standing in today for Paul Goddard, our Chief Executive Officer, who was planning on being on today's quarterly call, as always, but due to a delayed and diverted flight overseas, he will still be in the sky during our call today, so he's unable to join. Paul sends his regrets for not being here today. I've been with Pizza Pizza Limited for 14 years in various senior roles, including Senior Vice President of Operations and Development at West, leading the Pizza 73 brand since 2011.
In 2019, I was promoted to the Chief Operating Officer at Pizza Pizza Limited, working closely alongside Paul Goddard for many years along with Christine D'Sylva, our Chief Financial Officer, and the rest of our elite senior management team. Like Paul and Christine, I'm also an Executive Management Representative at Pizza Pizza Limited at each of the Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp. board meetings. I'd like to start this call off by stating how proud we are of our network of franchisees, our partners, and our entire team and staff of Pizza Pizza, for their unwavering support and resilience, working tirelessly in this ultra-competitive environment. Working together, we remain laser-focused on improving the speed and quality of service and delivering incredible new offerings that will continue to differentiate our brand and drive growth.
This quarter, our brand reported a combined same-store sales growth of 0.1%, with Pizza Pizza restaurants reporting 0.3% growth and Pizza 73 restaurants reporting a decline of 1.1%. For the second consecutive quarter, we're happy to see growth in Pizza Pizza's organic delivery channel, which has helped increase our average check. However, at both brands, we saw an overall decrease in transactions as we faced heightened competition, and we saw the impact of reduced consumer spending, mainly earlier in the quarter in July. The trend is impacting much of our QSR, much of the QSR industry, but since we can't control the macroeconomic environment, we're staying proactive and focused on our fundamentals. We're sharpening our value messaging, optimizing partnerships and promotions, and continuing to invest in digital and loyalty to drive customer frequency and retention.
The third quarter is always a busy quarter for our non-traditional locations and special events partnerships. As a reminder, our non-traditional sales typically account for 10% of our total sales, and it has been exciting to see the special events in non-traditional locations active again this summer. We saw Pizza Pizza and Pizza 73 brands come alive in communities across Canada via our best-in-class sponsorships and marketing program. In addition to record sales at critical events like the CNE in Toronto and the Calgary Stampede in Calgary, our team innovated our product offerings both this year, and we introduced a deep-fried pizza on a stick. This fun promotion drove national media attention and helped double our sales at the CNE versus previous years. At Pizza 73, we employed a layered approach to the Stampede this year to leverage our strong brand position with the key annual cultural event in Calgary.
The partnership was brought to life in restaurants, on the festival grounds, and across social media channels. Our digital presence, partnering with content creators, highlighted our food innovation. As a brand, we developed something that was a lot of fun, the Pony Express, where we had a real cowboy on a real horse delivering with saddlebags, delivering pizzas in Calgary. This media campaign garnered over 1 million social impressions and brought the event to life in our stores through a Stampede special combo in partnership with our partners at Coca-Cola. Speaking of brand-building promotions and engagement, we also build our brand engagement through exciting menu innovations. As interest in fried chicken items continued to grow, we introduced our new chicken tenders at Pizza Pizza and new wing flavors at Pizza 73.
The chicken tender offering posed an opportunity to deliver more individual stackable options within our existing chicken assortment, and it also provided an opportunity to speak to our well-known and loved assortment of dips. Additionally, at Pizza 73, we leaned into our brand's best-in-class 100% fresh wings with two new delicious flavors. We continue to see success promoting our key value offerings as Canadians look for ways to save on food without compromising quality. This quarter, we continue to promote our differentiating 18-inch double XL two-topper pizza deal at CAD 19.99. This is one of Canada's best deals on pizza and has become a cornerstone of our menu from coast to coast. We continue to support this deal with broadcast, out-of-home, and digital, and have been seeing a significant shift in our assortment of customers trade up to the higher and larger size.
To further solidify our value credentials this quarter, while staying relevant and topical, we brought back early on in the quarter a reverse tariff discount, supporting the deal with a new TV and digital video. This offer was once again a hit and helped support not only the value messaging but our credibility as being truly Canadian, authentically Canadian, because we truly are. All of our promotions and activations would not be successful from the time of placing your order to receiving your pizza, if not for our array of ordering channels, from placing an in-store order to calling in, ordering online, or in-house developed website apps and order-taking platforms that really support the business 24 hours a day, seven days a week for both brands.
With the rollout of our visual delivery tracking feature, a similar interface that we would see on third-party platforms, we're able to improve our customer experience, and the average speed of delivery this year is significantly better than a year ago. As we look towards rebuilding our loyalty program and improving our customer ordering experience, we're currently redesigning and enhancing our web and app extensions for customers. These enhancements will not just improve the speed and simplicity of ordering, they will improve our loyalty functionality and data-driven insights. We'll continue to further distance ourselves from the competition with our ongoing tech advantage, with more customer-focused capabilities as time goes on. Please stay tuned for future updates earlier next year. Before I turn things over to Christine, I just wanted to discuss our restaurant network growth. We ended the second quarter with a total of 811 locations in Canada.
We're really excited for achieving the 800 location milestone: 706 of our Pizza Pizza sites and 105 of our Pizza 73s. We opened four traditional and 10 non-traditional Pizza Pizza locations during the quarter. Meanwhile, at Pizza 73, we opened up two traditional locations. We also closed one traditional and three non-traditional Pizza Pizzas and one traditional Pizza 73. While our growth has been a little slower than in the past, we're also being a lot more discerning about where we grow and how we grow. That said, we do expect to pick up the pace of growth in the last quarter of this year, as we still expect to grow our traditional business. Our traditional network by 2-3%. While we continue our restaurant development, we also continue the exciting renovation programs and refresh programs with our traditional core business.
We have over 95% of our traditional Pizza Pizza stores having the new look. Our restaurant features have a refresh on the interior and exterior and significant upgrades made in regards to equipment, such as more efficient ovens, digital menu boards, and further in-store technology. As I close off here, we are now in our busiest quarter of the year, and we will see us continue to leverage our brand assets, our strengths as we implement new and timely promotions backed by our core propositions, ongoing menu innovations, conveniently located restaurants, and an award-winning tech platform, and a fully staffed and led customer contact center. We look forward to closing off the year in strong, fine form. Thank you for listening, and now I'll hand things over to Christine D'Sylva, our Chief Financial Officer, and she'll provide an update on our details on our financials.
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: Thanks, Philip. As a reminder, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp is a top-line restaurant royalty corp that earns a monthly royalty through a license agreement with Pizza Pizza Limited. In exchange for the use of the Pizza Pizza and Pizza 73 trademarks in its restaurant operations, Pizza Pizza Limited pays the partnership a monthly royalty as a percentage of royalty pool sales. Growth in the corp is derived from increasing same-store sales of restaurants in the royalty pool and by adding new restaurants to the pool each year. As previously announced, on January 1, 2025, the royalty pool increased by 20 restaurants. For fiscal 2025, there are 794 restaurants in the royalty pool, comprised of 694 Pizza Pizza and 100 Pizza 73. With that brief information, let's turn to the financial results for the quarter.
As Philip mentioned, same-store sales, the key driver of yield growth for shareholders, increased 0.1% for the quarter, with Pizza Pizza restaurants reporting sales growth of 0.3% and Pizza 73 restaurants reporting a decline of 1.1%. The combination of the 20 new restaurants added to the royalty pool and the same-store sales resulted in an overall increase to royalty pool system sales and the corresponding royalty income. Royalty pool system sales for the quarter increased 2% to CAD 158.8 million from CAD 155.8 million in the same quarter last year. By brand, sales from the 694 Pizza Pizza restaurants in the pool increased 2.3% to CAD 138 million for the quarter, while sales from the 100 Pizza 73 restaurants were unchanged at CAD 20.8 million for the quarter. The partnership's royalty income earned as a percentage of royalty pool sales increased 1.9% to CAD 10.2 million for the quarter.
Beyond royalty income, the partnership also earned interest income on its cash and short-term investments. For the quarter, the partnership earned CAD 37,000. This decreased from the prior year as the overall balance decreased and the rate applicable on that balance decreased. Now turning to partnership expenses, administrative expenses, including listing costs as well as director, legal, and auditor fees, were consistent with the prior year. This quarter, they totaled CAD 181,000 compared to CAD 176,000 in the prior year. In addition to administrative expenses, the partnership is making interest-only payments on its CAD 47 million credit facility. Interest paid in the quarter was CAD 444,000. As a reminder, in March of 2025, the company renewed the facility for three years, with maturity now set for April 2028. The balance of the facility remained unchanged; however, the credit spread table increased slightly, with the lowest tier increasing from 0.875% to 1%.
Additionally, in April of 2025, the partnership entered into a new three-year forward swap. The new three-year swap commenced when the existing one expired. The locked-in rate is now 2.51%, which is an increase in the maturing swap of 1.81%. The overall all-in rate for the credit facility for the next three years will be 3.51%, compared to the maturing rate of 2.685%. After the partnership receives royalty and interest income, pays administrative and interest expense, the resulting net cash was available for distribution to its two partners based on their ownership. After the 2025 vending, Pizza Pizza Limited's ownership increased to 26.2%. Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp shares in the remaining 73.8% of the partnership. It pays taxes on its share of the partnership earnings, and any residual cash is then available for dividends to company shareholders.
The company declared shareholder dividends of CAD 5.7 million for the quarter, or CAD 0.2325 per share, which was consistent with the prior year. The payout ratio for the quarter was 111% and resulted in the company's working capital decreasing CAD 800,000 to end the quarter at CAD 4 million. The CAD 4 million working capital reserves is available to stabilize dividends and fund other expenditures in the event of short to medium-term variability in sales and thus royalty income. The company historically has targeted a payout ratio at or near 100% on an annualized basis, and we continue to do so. That concludes our financial overview. I'd like to turn the call back to our operator to poll for questions.
Conference Operator: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star key followed by the number one on your touch-tone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press the star key followed by the number two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment while we assemble the queue. The first question comes from Derek Lessard of TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Derek Lessard, Analyst, TD Cowen: Yeah, good morning, everybody. Good morning, Phil. Nice to meet you. Who needs Paul anyway, right?
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: No, I'm Derek.
Derek Lessard, Analyst, TD Cowen: Thanks. Cool. The one question I had was, I was curious if you saw a change in, I guess, consumer behavior from Q2, where you guys reported a nice, modest same-store, positive same-store sales print to the current quarter where it was kind of flattish.
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: I think, Derek, in terms of overall consumer behavior, we're definitely seeing a shift. We're seeing customers reducing their frequency of visits, and that's now then increasing the competitive landscape because everyone's fighting for those visits. We're also seeing them continue to be more discerning in how they're spending their dollars. They're managing their overall spend, so they might not be adding the dips and the pop to their orders. They'll still get their pizza from us, so we are seeing that aspect happening. We're also continuing to see a shift in how they're getting their pizza. I think we've talked about it in the past where we've seen an increase in our pickup channel, and we continue to see a pickup increase this year at both brands.
In fact, at Pizza 73, where we used to be 90% delivery and 10% walk-in pickup, we're seeing a shift to where the walk-in and pickup at that brand is almost 25%. That is definitely something we are seeing overall. I think in terms of this quarter, we were definitely impacted by weather in the early part in July. Additionally, the fact that there was the Canada Post strike, so we made the decision to not issue flyers in July, definitely did impact the business at that point.
Derek Lessard, Analyst, TD Cowen: Weather in what way, Christine? Remind me. We always forget weather.
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: In July, yeah. It was poor weather in July, so a lot of our outdoor events were definitely impacted. In Alberta, Phil can speak more to this, they were impacted by tourism and the fact that Banff and those kinds of locations were not getting as many tourists from the U.S. That definitely did impact our July month. We did see, though, that as the quarter progressed, things did pick up in the right direction.
Derek Lessard, Analyst, TD Cowen: Okay. Maybe just a follow-up to that, Christine. You guys are, I'd say, the environment is obviously, it's not necessarily, I guess, conducive for delivery sales, but it looks like you guys did get some pretty good organic growth there, and you're punching above your weight. Just maybe talk about the drivers behind that.
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: Definitely.
Derek Lessard, Analyst, TD Cowen: I think that one, yeah.
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: Go ahead, Philip.
Derek Lessard, Analyst, TD Cowen: Yeah. On my end, Derek, what we've been seeing is just year over year, we have a customer tracking system that is really helping our franchisees and our team just control and making sure that we're exceeding customers' expectations. We're about a minute quicker this year than we were last year on deliveries, and we could tell exactly where the delivery driver is at any given moment, and it just helps plan things out. I do feel that we're seeing less third-party business, but internally, we're getting more organic deliveries, and we've basically been seeing improvements week after week, period after period for the last few, which we're pleased with.
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: We're also doing a lot more specials like the double XL, where you're ordering a bigger item, and typically, that would lead to people having others over, so they want it delivered to their house. To talk more to the tech that Philip was mentioning, we're alerting customers via SMS when their order is being delivered so that they know to go in and track their order. We're trying to engage customers more on our organic platform to keep them there, and we want them to stay on that platform. It's just more profitable for our overall franchisees.
Derek Lessard, Analyst, TD Cowen: Okay. Okay. Makes sense. I guess last quarter, you had, if I recall correctly, some timely, I think, sports-related marketing campaigns. Curious if any of that carried over into Q3 and maybe just a comment on any traction from the long Blue Jays run.
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: Yeah. The long Blue Jays run will definitely impact our Q4. Definitely, the October baseball is something we did. I think you would see in the market over the last few weeks, we actually partnered with Vladimir Guerrero Jr. for our double XL pizza. That is a Q4 impact that we would be seeing from that one. Definitely, the love of baseball across Canada and the fact that we are a Canadian pizza brand and we have locations across the country definitely will be a Q4.
Derek Lessard, Analyst, TD Cowen: There was definitely a lot of eyeballs, right? I think there were 10 million Canadians who tuned in to Game 7.
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: Yep. I think right away, as Vladimir hit his first home run, we had a double XL commercial on that sport. It was great. Timing was perfect. Q4 is definitely a big sports quarter for us with October baseball and then the start of our partnerships with all of the NHL teams across the country and the Raptors. We're excited for sports. It's a big driver for us.
Derek Lessard, Analyst, TD Cowen: Okay. Awesome. Maybe one last one for me. Congrats on the 800 stores. Just maybe talk about, we don't talk about it often, but maybe just. Could you just talk about the progress on the Mexican initiative?
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: Yep. So we currently have four locations in Mexico. It is our first foray into international expansion. It's slower than we would like, but we know that the partners down there are very much committed to it, and so is our management team here in Toronto. There are a few more in the hopper towards the end of the year, but it's definitely a market where we see a significant amount of potential. The Mexican pizza market is actually greater than the American pizza market. Once we get this region of Guadalajara up and running, it will definitely be gravy for all of our PPSC investors.
Derek Lessard, Analyst, TD Cowen: Okay. Awesome. That's it for me. Thanks for taking my questions, everybody.
Christine D'Sylva, Chief Financial Officer, Pizza Pizza Royalty Corp: Thanks, Derek.
Derek Lessard, Analyst, TD Cowen: Thank you. Thanks.
Conference Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time. That concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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