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PTC Inc. (NASDAQ:PTC) reported its financial results for the third quarter of 2025, showcasing strong growth in annual recurring revenue (ARR) and notable advancements in AI-driven product innovation. Despite a challenging macroeconomic environment, the company demonstrated resilience with a 9.3% increase in constant currency ARR and a 14% rise in free cash flow year-over-year to approximately $850 million. With impressive gross profit margins of 82.16%, PTC continues to demonstrate financial strength, earning a perfect Piotroski Score of 9 according to InvestingPro data. The stock saw a modest increase of 0.59% in the aftermarket, reflecting positive investor sentiment.
Key Takeaways
- Constant currency ARR grew by 9.3% to $2.372 billion.
- Free cash flow increased by 14% year-over-year.
- AI capabilities expanded across multiple product lines.
- Strong geographic ARR growth in Europe and Asia-Pacific at 11%.
- Positive stock movement in aftermarket trading.
Company Performance
PTC’s Q3 performance underscored its strategic focus on AI and digital transformation. The company achieved significant ARR growth across its product lines, with CAD and PLM ARR increasing by 8% and 10%, respectively. Geographically, Europe and Asia-Pacific led growth with an 11% increase in ARR, while the Americas saw an 8% rise. This performance aligns with PTC’s commitment to enhancing its AI capabilities and strengthening its market position in engineering and manufacturing software.
Financial Highlights
- Revenue: Not specified in the available data.
- Earnings per share: Not specified in the available data.
- Constant currency ARR: $2.372 billion, up 9.3% year-over-year.
- Free cash flow: Increased by 14% year-over-year.
Market Reaction
PTC’s stock experienced a slight uptick of 0.59% in the aftermarket, closing at $198.43. This movement reflects investor confidence in the company’s strategic initiatives and its ability to navigate macroeconomic challenges. The stock remains below its 52-week high of $219.69 but is well above the 52-week low of $133.38, indicating a stable recovery trajectory.
Outlook & Guidance
Looking ahead, PTC has set a fiscal 2025 constant currency ARR growth target of 8-9% and anticipates free cash flow of approximately $850 million. The company plans to continue its focus on AI development and product innovation, alongside exploring commercial optimization strategies to enhance profitability.
Executive Commentary
Neil Barua, CEO of PTC, emphasized the importance of product data foundations in driving AI transformation, stating, "Product data foundations are the backbone of AI-driven transformation." He also highlighted the company’s efforts to engage with C-level executives, noting, "We’re elevating the conversation to C-level executives." Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, remarked on the company’s ongoing transformation efforts, saying, "The work never stops. The initial work was really just setting the foundation."
Risks and Challenges
- Macroeconomic uncertainties: Potential impact on customer spending and investment.
- Competitive pressures: Need to maintain differentiation in a rapidly evolving tech landscape.
- Policy and tariff changes: Could affect global operations and supply chains.
- Dependence on AI innovation: Requires continuous investment and development to stay ahead.
PTC’s Q3 2025 earnings call highlighted its strong performance and strategic focus on AI-driven innovation, positioning the company for continued growth in a dynamic market environment.
Full transcript - PTC Inc (PTC) Q3 2025:
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to PTC’s 2025 third quarter conference call. During today’s presentation, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, the conference will be open for questions. I would now like to turn the call over to Matt Shimao, PTC’s Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Good afternoon. Thank you, Eric, and welcome to PTC’s 2025 third quarter conference call. On the call today are Neil Barua, Chief Executive Officer; Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer; and Robert Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer. Today’s conference call is being broadcast live through an audio webcast, and a replay of the call will be available later today at www.ptc.com. During this call, PTC will make forward-looking statements, including guidance as to future operating results. Because such statements deal with future events, actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements can be found in PTC’s annual report on Form 10-K, Form 10-Q, and other filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, as well as in today’s press release.
The forward-looking statements, including guidance provided during this call, are valid only as of today’s date, July 30, 2025, and PTC assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements. During the call, PTC will discuss non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP measures are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. A reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in today’s press release made available on our website. With that, I’d like to turn the call over to PTC’s Chief Executive Officer, Neil Barua.
Neil Barua, Chief Executive Officer, PTC: Thank you, Matt, and good afternoon, everyone. I’m proud of what PTC is accomplishing in fiscal year 2025, and I’m more confident than ever in the important position we hold in the market. Our vision for our customers’ digital transformations is resonating. They rely on PTC software to build structured product data foundations in their engineering teams and to extend the value of that data across their enterprises. This helps them accelerate time to market, produce higher-quality products, and manage complexity across their businesses. These product data foundations are the fundamental backbone of AI-driven digital transformation for our customers and become a driver for organizing and structuring data using PTC solutions. In Q3, we executed well: 9.3% constant currency ARR growth and 14% free cash flow growth year over year. We also continued deleveraging our balance sheet and repurchasing shares.
With our continued visibility to solid cash generation, we expect to remain active under our $2 billion share repurchase authorization. These results reflect continued resilience in a dynamic macro environment and also indicate the early progress of our go-to-market transformation and deepening strategic engagement with customers. In Q3, policy and trade uncertainty led some customers to slow or phase deals. By quarter end, we began to see signs of stabilization as customers adapted to the environment. While it is too early to call a trend, our sense is that we are past the point of maximum disruption. Input costs and tariff discussions remain important watch items, and dynamics differ across verticals and geographies, but demand has remained resilient. To us, this underscores that our solutions continue to be mission-critical for customers, even in periods of macro uncertainty. Our Q3 results also reflect steady progress with our go-to-market transformation.
The team is continuing to build a more consistent operating rhythm, and we’re seeing encouraging signs. Pipeline creation remained healthy, win rates with tenured reps improved modestly, and new reps are making progress in their ramp. We’re also seeing stronger collaboration across sales, marketing, and customer success, and deeper, more strategic engagement with senior decision-makers. While we’re still early in this transformation, compared to a year ago, we’re structurally stronger and better positioned to support our customers. This remains a long-term effort and will continue to refine and adapt, but the early progress we’ve seen gives us confidence in the direction we’re headed. We advanced our product data foundation strategy in Q3 with portfolio enhancements and customer wins across our five focus areas of CAD, PLM, ALM, SLM, and SaaS, and we continued our progress with AI.
In CAD, we released the most sophisticated version of Creo yet with Creo 12. This release included enhancements in several important areas, including AI-driven generative design. In PLM, we released Arena Supply Chain Intelligence, which brings AI-driven supply chain risk monitoring directly into the PLM environment. Our customer wins included a new Windchill Plus deal with a well-known medtech brand in a competitive process, a new Codebeamer deal with a major automotive supplier, the adoption of Windchill Plus with a long-time aerospace and defense customer, and finally, a ServiceMax expansion with a medtech customer that is also standardized on Windchill as its enterprise PLM system. You can read more about our customer wins in the appendix slides. Our product data foundation strategy is also core to what we’re doing with AI. Product data foundations are the backbone of AI-driven transformation.
We have the solutions to deliver these product data foundations in PLM, CAD, ALM, and SLM, and we have a deep understanding of how our customers apply this data across our enterprises. This combination is central to our vision and will keep PTC in the driver’s seat to transform our customers’ businesses with product data and AI. Fiscal year 2025 has been a milestone year for our AI strategy, with releases and meaningful progress from ServiceMax, Windchill, Codebeamer, Onshape, Arena, and many of our other products. Feedback from customers has been very positive and validates the direction we’re moving in. We’ll release more AI capabilities in several products in Q4, followed by a strong AI roadmap for fiscal year 2026. More broadly, our relationship with NVIDIA, highlighted in this morning’s press release, reflects what’s possible when product data intelligence meets cutting-edge innovation.
NVIDIA has long used Creo and Windchill, but what’s even more exciting is the growing convergence between PTC solutions and the expanding category of physical AI. As AI begins to shape the physical world, not just the digital, product data becomes the connective tissue. That’s the role we’re playing, and it’s the one we expect to deepen with NVIDIA and others. While still early, it’ll be an area to watch, and it fits directly with our vision of product data foundations and AI-driven transformation. Overall, Q3 was another solid quarter. As we execute in Q4, my confidence is driven by a few things. We have a strong Q4 pipeline with several meaningful opportunities across our verticals and core products, supported by the progress of our go-to-market transformation.
Our vision of product data foundations enabling AI-driven transformation is resonating well with customers and is aligned with durable secular trends rooted in their needs. These include the shift to software-defined products, regulatory-driven traceability, and the move to SaaS. With that, I’ll turn things over to Kristian.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Thanks, Neil, and hello, everyone. Starting off with slide six, as you know, we believe ARR and free cash flow are the most important metrics to assess the performance of our business. To help investors understand our business performance, excluding the impact of FX volatility, we provide ARR guidance and disclose our ARR results on a constant currency basis. At the end of Q3, our constant currency ARR using our fiscal 2025 plan FX rates was $2.372 billion, up 9.3% year over year. In Q3, our free cash flow was $242 million, up 14% year over year, while we continued to invest in our key focus areas. Note that the free cash flow we generated in Q3 absorbed approximately $3 million of outflows related to our go-to-market realignment. Turning to slide seven, let’s look at our constant currency ARR growth in more detail.
Looking at our product groups, our constant currency year-over-year ARR growth was 8% in CAD, driven primarily by Creo, and 10% in PLM, driven primarily by Windchill, Codebeamer, and IoT. On a year-over-year basis, constant currency ARR grew by 8% in the Americas, 11% in Europe, and 11% in Asia-Pacific. Moving to slide eight, we ended Q3 with cash and cash equivalents of $199 million. At the end of Q3, total debt was $1.236 billion, and we were 1.2 times levered. In Q3, we continued the disciplined and consistent execution of our $2 billion share repurchase program and used $75 million of cash to repurchase 444,000 shares of our common stock. We also continued to diligently pay down our debt in Q3, with our total debt balance decreasing by $156 million.
In line with what we’ve said coming into the year, we intend to buy back approximately $300 million of our common stock in fiscal 2025, with approximately $75 million of repurchases expected in Q4. Our fully diluted share count in fiscal 2024 was 121 million, and we currently expect fully diluted shares to be approximately flat in fiscal 2025. Looking forward, our capital allocation strategy is governed by a couple of key principles. First, we believe PTC should operate in a net debt position. Second, given the consistency and predictability of our free cash flow generation, we aim to maintain a low cash balance. As such, we expect to return excess cash to shareholders via share repurchases. With that, I’ll take you through our guidance on slide nine. All of the ARR amounts on this slide are based on our fiscal 2025 plan FX rates as of September 30, 2024.
We’ve updated our guidance ranges for ARR, cash flow, revenue, and EPS to reflect our year-to-date results and our outlook for Q4. I’ll get into more detail on our constant currency ARR guidance on the next two slides. On free cash flow, we’ve raised the low end of our previous guidance range, and we’re now guiding to approximately $850 million for fiscal 2025. This guidance absorbs roughly $20 million of cash outflows for severance and consulting fees related to our go-to-market realignment, and these are cash outflows that we don’t expect to incur next year. For Q4, we’re guiding to free cash flow of $90 to $95 million. At this point, we have good visibility to the free cash flow guidance we’ve provided for fiscal 2025. First of all, during the first three quarters of the year, we’ve generated almost 90% of our full-year guidance.
Second, focusing on cash inflows, as of the end of July, we’ve already billed most of what we expect to collect for the remainder of 2025. Third, on the cash outflow side of the equation, which is also important, we know what cash outflows we have planned for the last two months of the year. It’s worth pointing out that our free cash flow guidance is not on a constant currency basis, so it’s important to be mindful of FX volatility. Approximately 45% of our ARR is transacted in foreign currencies, and approximately 35% of our non-GAAP cost of revenue and operating expenses are transacted in foreign currencies. We have somewhat of a natural hedge. That said, significant FX moves can have an impact.
Given where rates are today, it’s worth pointing out that FX is still expected to be a headwind for the full year, but should be a modest tailwind for the second half. All of this has been contemplated in our execution and guidance throughout the year. Importantly, we’ve maintained consistent billing practices over time. We primarily bill our customers annually upfront, one year at a time, regardless of contract term lengths. Over the medium term, we continue to expect our free cash flow to grow faster than our ARR, with our non-GAAP operating expenses expected to grow at roughly half the rate of ARR. A basic tenet of our subscription-based business model and budgeting process is that there is natural operating leverage that we benefit from as our ARR grows. To help you with your models, we also provide revenue and EPS guidance.
However, I’d like to reiterate my favorite reminder. ASC 606 makes revenue and EPS difficult to predict for PTC since we primarily sell on-premise subscriptions, and the way revenue is recognized from these contracts can vary significantly based on variables that aren’t necessarily relevant to the performance of the business. I did a teach-in on this subject on our Q4 fiscal 2022 earnings call that you may want to refer to if you’re new to PTC. You can find the presentation on the investor section of our website. The summary is we believe ARR and free cash flow, rather than revenue and operating income, are the best metrics to assess the performance of our business. Turning to slide 10, here’s an illustrative constant currency ARR model that shows our guidance for Q4 in context. You can see our sequential net new ARR over the past 11 quarters.
The column to the right illustrates the dollar range of Q4 sequential net ARR growth that corresponds to our updated Q4 constant currency ARR guidance range of 8% to 9%. As we’ve discussed on previous calls, fiscal 2025 is back-end loaded due to the size and shape of our pipeline, which is influenced by the size and shape of our expiring base. The majority of our net new ARR comes from upsells, expansions, and cross-sells, so our expiring base dynamics can be important. Raising the low end of the full-year guidance to 8% from the 7% growth we talked about last quarter essentially takes the COVID or GFC-like scenario off the table. The 8% to 9% range for Q4 allows for some ongoing variability given the macro environment, which Neil commented on earlier. For example, deals could be downsized or structured as reps.
Net net, we feel good about the size of the pipeline going into Q4. Moving to slide 11, here’s a similar illustrative model for fiscal 2025. These are the results over the past three years, and then the column on the right illustrates the dollar range of full-year net ARR growth that is matched to our updated fiscal 2025 constant currency ARR guidance range of 8% to 9%. Note that compared to other years shown on this slide, fiscal 2024 benefited by approximately $10 million due to incremental deferred ARR in that year. Finally, and consistent with my reminder from last quarter, we expect churn to remain low in fiscal 2025. Since transitioning to a subscription-based business model, our business has proved to be resilient because our customers need to maintain licenses to our software to continue designing and producing their products.
While we sell to engineering, manufacturing, and services departments, most of our business is focused on engineering, where spending by our customers tends to be more protected. With that, I’d like to turn the call back over to the operator for the Q&A session.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Please limit yourself to one question only. If you have additional questions, please return to the queue. Your first question comes from the line of Tyler Radke with Citi. Please go ahead.
Neil Barua, Chief Executive Officer, PTC: Thank you for taking my question. I’d be curious just to get an update on the go-to-market initiatives. I know you’re heading into year-end planning and thinking about next year. How are you sort of thinking about the evolution of verticalization as well as the product and packaging at this point?
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Sure. Thanks for the question, Tyler. Like I was saying, the progression of the go-to-market transformation is giving us incremental confidence from the last time we spoke around what Rob, who’s here with me, could comment as well, as we’re working through the dynamics to build a durable go-to-market engine for the foreseeable future. We’ve progressed, and we’ll talk a bit about what we’ve seen so far. I’ll say, as we’re thinking about planning, those inputs around how we’re thinking about and seeing the evolution of win rates starting to creep up, how we’re seeing rep productivity, and the way in which Rob is making sure that new reps are ramped up effectively, tenured reps, how do we enable them, how do we arm them with the vertical messaging, the product portfolio to get their productivity up.
Those are all progressing as we thought they would be, with some good momentum that’s building behind it as we enter into Q4. As we think about 2026 planning, we’re actually in a good spot to consider all the progress, plus also the incremental progress that needs to be made in 2026 to really build through what we believe is the acceleration back to an ARR growth rate that we would feel very good about based on the opportunity that we’re seeing. Rob, you want to add color?
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: Yeah. I mean, obviously. Everything that Neil said, just additionally, we feel like we came through last quarter with a lot of the foundational work in place. Building on that, we’re putting in some verticalized messaging to help complement all that work that was done, the foundational work. That’s been getting tested internally and externally in terms of what it means for our customers, that outcomes-based messaging, where we can really start to look at how we help solve problems by industry versus the features and benefits we sell. That’s very much on track. That will be part of how we think about planning for next year and how we align for next year. The work that needs to be done to affect the outcomes is in place, and we feel good about it.
Neil Barua, Chief Executive Officer, PTC: Thank you.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Your next question comes from the line of Naysay with Barenberg. Please go ahead.
Hi. Thank you very much for taking my questions. Yeah, similar to the question before as well, Neil, maybe if you could, anything else outside of the improvements or progress you’ve seen in the new go-to-market model, anything else that’s giving you the confidence going into Q4? Your comment around the macro outlook, incrementally positive, probably for the first time in a very long time. It would be great to hear what else is giving you confidence for the last quarter of the year. Thank you.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Yeah, great question. One of the things Rob and I look at carefully is around how the pipeline evolves. One of the things I find very refreshing about Rob’s discipline with the go-to-market organization is around the alignment across all functions interfacing with the customer to ensure that we are maximizing the potential of that potential pipeline opportunity, but also make sure that we’re putting all the resources to ensure that that pipeline and what’s in there, that opportunity is actually executed appropriately to the best way possible based on the customer demand, as well as what we can affect from the go-to-market standpoint. Rob and I have put together a process where we look at the pipeline in a far more detailed manner based on opportunity.
We all actually coalesce around how do we move that opportunity to be bigger, and how do we move it to actually close rates that are faster than what we historically saw. When we think about Q4 and the work ahead of us in terms of executing closing these deals, a couple of points that give me that level of confidence around the rings that we’re giving. Number one is we have the highest amount of $5 million-plus deals in the pipeline that we ever have had at PTC. All those clearly won’t close, but we are very well entrenched as an executive team in those accounts. We have visibility around how those can evolve to closure. I will say one of the things that we work through and the difference in how maybe ARR shows up in these deals is the structuring of the deals.
We’re centered in secure the customer acquisition, and customers might choose to ramp the deal or decide to do more within the quarter. That affects, obviously, in quarter ARR, doesn’t change the great value that that customer provides over the long term for PTC. One is just the breadth of those deals that we see going into Q4. Two is the distinct and different introspection that Rob has instituted within the go-to-market organization to give us a high-level visibility around the probability of success of those deals coming to closure and by which they might come in terms of the structure. This is still an evolution that will continue on to continue to refine into 2026. One of the things that we’ve talked about is let’s raise the messaging. Let’s raise the conversation of this wonderful mission-critical application that PTC gives to our customers to the C-level of our customers.
Across Q3, I can’t even count how many times we are now talking to the C-levels of our customers versus the kind of levels that we’ve been talking to our customers for the last number of years. We’re elevating the conversation. In fact, I’ll give you the anecdote of the announcement that we made with NVIDIA, who also is a great customer of ours of Creo and Windchill. That conversation’s elevated to the Jensen level, which would have never happened at PTC for the last number of years. That’s where Rob is pushing all of us to get alignment at the top levels because it shows the great capabilities that PTC has and gives us a framework by which we could show them the great things that we could provide for them to transform their business and apply great technologies like AI to it.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Thank you so much for the all details. It’s really helpful. It’s great to hear that you’re already seeing a lot of benefits coming through from the new model. Congrats on that. Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Miller with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Yes, good afternoon.
Neil Barua, Chief Executive Officer, PTC: Andrew.
Neil, just a question. You mentioned something that the tariff uncertainty is dissipating. It’s a very interesting dialogue that we have with the CEOs in the industrial space. Are you seeing an actual change in behavior and maybe some budgets sort of being let out as a result of the deals that have been signed? I know it’s only been a couple of weeks, but I’ve been, I guess, pleasantly surprised by your comments. You think it is starting to make a difference. Any call would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Sure. I’m not on this call telling anyone that there’s an all-clear out there in the marketplace where everyone’s back to really doing all the transformation that’s highly critical for them all to do. What I can say is that the level of uncertainty from the last call to this call has clearly been mitigated by several things that happened, quite frankly, throughout the course of July, as you noted, Andrew. What I’ll say is there’s more clarity in the conversations. Our customers have more clarity around the guardrails they might be able to operate in. I’m pleased by that, by the way, around some of the agreements that have been made in principle. The tax policy, by the way, that got approved in the U.S., as an example, gives now a defined way in which manufacturers here in the U.S.
could actually see the benefit of that tax policy and how that relates to their investment cycle. There’s been some positive elements of what has been done to give clarity to the situation. Our customers are still dealing, as you noted, Andrew, with how do they deal with higher input costs? Even if a tariff policy is set, now the input costs are, in some cases, higher. How do they deal with that? How do they deal with other, by the way, geographies that have not gotten the clarity yet? We’re still facing that. We factor that into how we think about Q4. We’re keeping a close tab on it.
I would summarize one really interesting thing that has come across through the course of Q3, which is despite the uncertainty that we felt early in court, despite some of the movements that occurred that we predicted in Q3, what I think has been highlighted is that mission-critical digital transformation to remain relevant as a company in a highly complex world with everything that’s happening has actually elevated now for our customers to really think through how do they stay relevant in this dynamic world. They look at PTC now as a strategic partner to do that. How that formulates over the next few years, we’re working hard to execute across that, but I’m pleased by how we’re thinking about our customers are thinking about changing their businesses as well using PTC.
This is great, Tyler. Thank you so much.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Next question comes from the line of Jason Salino with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Hey, great. Thank you for taking my question. This one’s actually for Kristian. We love your accounting tutorials. I was a little surprised you didn’t mention any OBBA benefit. It may just be timing related. It might be more of a next-year tailwind, but curious I’d ask how we should think about it, and is it probably going to be more of a next-year benefit? Thank you.
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: Yeah. Hey, Jason. Thanks. Great question. For PTC, that benefit will be a fiscal 2026 benefit. We’re still working through some of the details on exactly how much that’s going to benefit us. Suffice it to say, it will be a tailwind. Our cash taxes will not be going up as much as we had contemplated previously. Details to be forthcoming when we issue our fiscal 2026 guidance.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Okay. Great. Makes sense.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Your next question comes from the line of Ken Wong with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Neil Barua, Chief Executive Officer, PTC: Fantastic. Neil, I was hoping maybe you could address the elephant in the room. I know it’s not typical for you guys to comment on M&A headlines, but obviously there was something about a competitor acquiring you guys. Would love how you guys are thinking about it and how you would suggest investors think about PTC going forward.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Sure can. Thanks for the question. By the way, thank you mostly for coming to our event the other day in California. We invite anyone to come to those events to just see the progress of what Product Data Foundation looks like for PTC and what we could do with customers. In terms of your question, as I’m sure you could truly appreciate, we do not comment on market speculation. I’ll say this. PTC is a strategic leader in our space, like you know. It is not surprising that we’d be of interest in industry conversations about consolidation whatsoever. That said, our focus is on execution and creating strategic value for our customers and shareholders, Ken.
Neil Barua, Chief Executive Officer, PTC: All right. Fantastic. Thanks a lot. Enjoy the event quite a lot.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Your next question comes from the line of Siti Penny Grahi with Mizuho. Please go ahead.
Great. Thank you and congrats on a good quarter. Neil, it’s good to hear some of the positive commentary about AI. Could you walk us through some of the early adopters using AI? I know it’s pretty early to expect any kind of benefit, but what kind of ARR uplift we should expect as customers start uptaking AI?
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Siti, good to hear your voice again. Thanks for the question. As you’ve noted, and I think as we’ve been mentioning now for a bit of time, it continues to accelerate. AI is at the forefront of almost every customer conversation. Some, as you’re asking, are piloting. Some are thinking about scaling. One of the biggest things that is critical here around our approach is we’re really differentiating our AI solution that we talked about. We talked about ServiceMax AI previously, Onshape AI Advisor. There’s a number of releases that are coming out in Codebeamer and Windchill. Creo 12 is a great indication of what we did with generative design and increment on using AI. Our differentiation in combining AI is with combining AI to contextualize product data in PLM, ALM, and SLM. This is the whole vision around Product Data Foundation applying AI for actionable insights.
There’s no one else in the world, given the ways in which we know the product data actually works within our customers’ enterprise, to apply relevant AI. Siti, we’re seeing really great feedback from POCs that we’re undertaking within Codebeamer, Windchill, as well as ServiceMax, in addition to Onshape. That is moving now into actually people securing an AI module on top of what they’re paying in this example by ServiceMax. I will caution, though, it is still early. We’re not giving out any ways in which this will formulate itself to ARR. We’re working through that, but we’re learning a lot from our customers. It ultimately is highlighting that Product Data Foundation, having us be your CAD capability, your PLM provider, your ALM provider, and your SLM provider is absolutely critical for AI to actually work. We’re working through that, and we see a lot of value in it.
We’ll continue to post you around how we evolve our AI releases as the year comes to fruition. Rob, anything to that?
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: No. Listen, it’s an amazing opportunity for us for sure. Any place that we can help because of our unique data set, create predictive insights, as Neil said, automate repeat tasks, tons of them out there that we can help with, with the data we have and the tools, and then just enhance the user experience. We have tons of opportunity there, and we’ll explore those and go forward.
Great. Thanks for the call.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Your next question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats from me on the results, guys. Really good to see. Kristian, given the success you had in this quarter and the free cash flow commentary and even some of the commentary on taxes and FX movements, I wanted to ask about the prior billion-dollar free cash flow target next year. Last quarter, you didn’t really want to reiterate that number, but just sort of curious if you have any increased confidence in that with what you’ve seen this past quarter.
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: Yeah. Hey, Matt. Thanks. First of all, I think that question is probably on everybody’s mind. Just to remind everybody, as we talked about last quarter and even before that, there are, we’ll call it, five key inputs to think about as we think about fiscal 2026. One is obviously how we finish out this year, really from an ARR perspective. Number two is, of course, the planning and budgeting, both the top line and spending plans for fiscal 2026. Obviously, FX rates can have an impact. Cash taxes are something to keep an eye on, and then, of course, interest rates. We have provided guidance, the guidance range for how we think about how we’re going to end this year. We haven’t yet talked about the top line or spending plans for next year, so we’ll leave those two aside.
Obviously, FX rates where they stand today are better than they were, certainly throughout most of this year, so that gives incremental comfort. The tax policy also should be a tailwind, which also gives us incremental comfort. I guess net-net where we are here today, I think we feel incrementally better. Still a lot of work to do to get to a precise number, but we expect we’ll have that for you next quarter.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Thanks a lot, guys.
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: Bye-bye.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Your next question comes from the line of Blair Abernathy with Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead.
Thanks very much. Great quarter in a tough macro, guys. I apologize if you already spoke to this. I had to drop off for a couple of minutes. Neil, I want to ask you about the ServiceMax business, which is now two and a half years in. Can you just talk a little bit about how it has progressed in terms of cross-selling into the PTC base and the importance ServiceMax is in terms of your go-to-market motion? I just want to understand how much closer this business is going to market with your core CAD business.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Sure. Thanks for the question, Blair. It’s important maybe to start the question off with relating back. Relating back.
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Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Shall we continue, Neil?
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: I think we just got you all clear. Sorry, Blair. I apologize. I gave the whole answer, and you did not hear about it because of the emergency. In all fairness, I think one thing to note on ServiceMax, you will see it in the customer appendix, that there were, and these are seven-figure deals on ServiceMax to give context, that connection to Windchill in some of these accounts is actually starting to formulate itself for customers to think about ServiceMax more broadly. By the way, vice versa. There was a PLM win that was configured at a MedTech customer because of the ServiceMax connection back to PLM. It is, number one, differentiating Windchill from the other PLM competitors that we have because ServiceMax is unique versus what Siemens has and Dassault has, as you all know. That is point number one.
From a this-year perspective, we have been hit by churn events that have not been pretty in terms of weighing down the overall growth rate of what we were expecting out of ServiceMax. While we still have a quarter left and there are several deals that the team is still working on, we have had to overcome some churn events that were mainly one-time, idiosyncratic in nature. We do not really see this continuing on in that velocity as we think about 2026. As an example, a ServiceMax customer for the last 10 years got bought by a much bigger company that already had an executable field service management solution, and it churned out from us because they were using a different platform. Usually, ServiceMax customers are the ones that actually buy companies versus the other way around. This was an anomalous event in that example.
To summarize, we still feel strongly that ServiceMax, its connection back to the core, meaning Windchill and Creo, is really critical, particularly in the world of Product Data Foundation as it enters the field and as you apply AI to it. Our great ServiceMax team is building and is actually the most advanced in some of our AI capabilities. That is something to stay tuned as you think about next year to really bridge the tie between Windchill and ServiceMax and the rest of our digital thread here. A bit of good, a bit of negative on the churn, a lot of work ahead of us. I will say that we have got our work cut out on ServiceMax, but we still feel strongly about the strategic intent of that business and how it fits in within our Product Data Foundation vision.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: That’s great, Neil. Thanks for the color. Your next question comes from the line of Jay Reschauer with Griffin Securities. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good evening. Neil, in terms of your current pipeline, are you seeing some improvement in the percentage or magnitude of multi-solutions, multi-three-letter acronym sales? A quarter ago, you suggested there might be some disaggregation of deals here and there. In that respect, are you perhaps seeing some re-aggregation in terms of those kinds of multi-brand deals that are fundamental to your closed-loop lifecycle management strategy? Sorry about asking a second question, but since you highlighted a corporate relationship with NVIDIA, I’d like to ask you about another one that has a direct revenue impact, namely the OEM relationship you’ve had with Amsus. I assume that survives the Synopsys acquisition.
Given that Synopsys is now much more exposed to your world than just EDA, do you see perhaps that there might be some further opportunity to expand on what has already been an expanded relationship with Amsus over the last number of years?
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Jay, thanks for the question. Good to hear your voice again. I’ll take the second question first on Synopsys. I’m thrilled with the team being able to execute what was a difficult transaction. I give kudos to his boldness as a CEO of seeing that acquisition through. I think it’s going to be great for both companies. As you know, I know Ajay well, and he’s done a great job handing that off to Sassine. Rob and I actually have been spending time here, and we’ll be spending more time with the product teams too. I think there’s a real good opportunity. I’ve already been discussing with Sassine to do much more with the new Synopsys organization. We’ll make sure we lean into that because there is a lot of opportunity there.
Nothing for us to disclose at this current time, but to answer your question, we’re predisposed to making this a stronger partnership versus going the other way. Good news there on Synopsys getting together for our customers and for PTC. On the first question around, are we seeing more joint product offerings in our pipeline? That also has been an interesting thing that we saw kind of formulate itself in conversations in Q3. We’ve had a packed CXC, by the way, here in Q3, where despite the uncertainty, we actually had the most number of executives and companies come to our CXC to discuss digital transformation. The reason why I bring that up, Jay, is when they do come up, it’s exactly what you said. They think about multi-products to transform.
While they came to the CXC thinking about a Codebeamer deployment, which is still critical, might be the first phase of what they do, it brings up the, why does Windchill also benefit the product data foundation by doing together? That doesn’t mean the deal is won all collectively, but it does mean, and it shows, particularly as we talk through the AI strategy, why an engineering-focused workflow company like us to aggregate CAD, PLM, ALM, and ultimately what’s happening in the service organization has huge value for outcomes that are generated when you put AI on top of it. We’re looking forward to it. Jay, we’re seeing more of it. I’m not here to pop the champagne yet. Hard work is still ahead, but I’m starting to see some good trends on that front, to your point.
Thank you, Neil. Thank you, Kristian.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Your next question comes from the line of Joshua Tilton with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: Hey, guys. Thanks for sneaking me in, and I’ll echo my congrats on a good quarter. This one, I think, is for Neil or Rob maybe, but I think earlier on the call, it was Rob who actually used the words that I believe it was. The work has been put in to affect the outcomes when he was describing the go-to-market transition. I guess if the work has put in, when will we see those outcomes in full effect? Is it a next year event? Is it beyond? Is it sooner? When do we start to see the work that you put in bear fruit for the top line growth?
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Yeah. Thanks for the question. It’s Rob. I’m glad someone was listening. That’s good. The work never stops. The initial work was really just setting the foundation, and not just, I should say. It was actually an incredible amount of work to be able to do that in a quarter and still deliver the quarter. Typically, you could find a number of outcomes, and that was the first kind of step. The next step is looking at how we talk about how we go approach the customers now, which is looking at the messaging and approaching the customer from an outside-in perspective and the problems we solve and how we help them solve the problems, where specifically we play. That obviously is important, along with how we staff the team, how we manage the performances of the team we have, upskill, and deploy this stuff.
To get to a specific point, you’d expect, when you consider our deal lifecycles, something out into next year where you could start to see more of a lift. That doesn’t mean we can’t get a benefit from a message that we deliver well. In fact, we are. In fact, Neil and I happened to be in an account early on where we delivered the messaging kind of unpolished and really pulled the deal back out of the fire that we might not have won. Now we’re in the late stages of that deal. Typically, that deal might have gone by. We wouldn’t even have seen it. Some of the bigger deals, something like that, might take six to nine months to close. What I mean by we’re starting to see the results is we just try to, the results are the checkpoints along the way.
First, organizing the team, then developing the messaging, starting to deliver the messaging, having that resonate with the customers, and then have that be part of their budgeting cycle. You could expect to see that. That’s what we’re pointing at. I mean, we’re aiming at that for mid-next year, mid to late next year.
Super helpful. Thanks for the clarity.
Your next question comes from the line of Saket Kalia with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Okay. Great. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question here. There’s been some, hey, Neil. Listen, there’s been some super helpful commentary on the near-term numbers, even more medium-term. I’d love to ask a little bit of a longer-term question, maybe for all of you, right, for Neil, Kristian, and Rob. I was wondering if you folks can just talk about how you think about commercial optimization. There’s a lot of value that you folks provide through your PLM and CAD systems. Historically, I don’t think pricing has been as much of a lever of growth in the past. Maybe philosophically speaking, how do you kind of think about that as a lever going forward?
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Let me start. Rob could add, and Kristian could play clean up if needed. Philosophically, Rob, myself, Kristian, and the leadership team have been working through commercial levers far more in rigor than I think I’ve ever seen in the two years I’ve at least been at PTC. From a perspective of planning, thinking about options, how it impacts customers, how it might flow through ARR, what are the impacts, good and bad, around certain ways in which we could think about commercial levers, there have been extremely detailed discussions over the last, call it, 90 days, as Rob’s been getting his sea legs underneath him. Philosophically, Socket, we believe there is opportunity, and we believe there are distinct ways in which we could capture that opportunity.
That being said, I think Kristian said this in prior calls, and I’d like to give Rob a chance also to articulate that to show the alignment here. We also have to be very mindful that the customer needs to see value also. All of this commercial discussion needs to be interlocked with the innovation that I’m pressing really hard on the product team to deliver, whether it be the AI releases, whether it be the continuation of what we’re seeing, some really good momentum on our SaaS product, so that when we actually execute some of these commercial levers, there is something that we give to our customers that says, "Okay, we’re going to take it, and there’s something new that we actually can appreciate why you’re asking for this." In some cases, for the most part, we’ll start doing that.
In other cases, there are opportunities to continue to optimize the commercial arrangement that we have with customers. Let me pause there and see, Rob, if you want to add.
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Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: All right. Kristian actually did some really good analysis to help us at least size the opportunity. Even when I came in, it was one of the first things we had a chance to look at together. As Neil very well said, delivering this in the form of the value to the customer is super important. Also, making sure that the teams, the commercial teams, know how to have that conversation, which historically, we just weren’t really that good at. There are a number of things that we’re going to bring together. Personally, I think it’s a great win, obviously, even for our customers. If you think about how they structure their contracts and how they plan with other major tech providers, this is not like a new motion for them. It’s really more of a new motion for us.
We have an opportunity to bring it to them in a new way now in terms of the value we deliver. It’s something that is an important part as we go forward of the strategy for the go-to-market teams.
Super helpful. Thanks, guys.
Your next question comes from the line of Joe Ruink with Baird. Please go ahead.
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: Great. Thanks for squeezing me in. I was hoping to discuss the new packaging for Windchill that was introduced earlier in the month. It strikes me as a pretty big simplification. If we could focus on the enterprise user designation and also the role-based packages, Windchill has always had this great opportunity to expand in the ecosystem around your customers and achieve deeper adoption with some of the personas at the customer. Is this maybe a better way of getting at each of those things? Are you better equipped to execute? Why is this coming through now?
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Yeah. Joe, let me start, and Kristian’s knee-deep in this, as is Rob. You nailed it. The pricing and packaging that you’re referencing is all about making PLM expansion adoption just easier from a customer perspective. It also allows for migration of SaaS to be much more simplified, number two. Number three is from how we’re releasing embedded AI into Windchill, this will also make it an easier way in which the customers can consume that type of capability. That’s number one. Secondly, your question was like, why is this happening now? I’ll remind you, last year when I became CEO, a big thrust of this was PLM is the epicenter of the vision of this company.
As we are continuing to make some success in that regard, we’re making sure everything is set up for our customers to really get the value of enterprise PLM broadly and as it moves to SaaS. That’s part of the strategy of executing across the vision that is so critical to the product data foundation. Rob, anything to add?
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Nope, you nailed it.
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: That’s great. I thank you very much.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Your last question comes from the line of Adam Borg with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: Awesome. Thanks so much for fitting me in. Maybe for Neil, just going back to the macro for a minute, I’d love maybe to go a step deeper just on the federal aerospace and defense vertical, what you’re seeing overall, and maybe just comment on the U.S. public sector as we head into the September quarter. Thanks so much.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: What was the second part of your question, Adam? You cut out a bit.
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: Sorry about that. Just about the U.S. public sector as you head into the September quarter.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: We’re very bullish currently about the federal aerospace and defense sector broadly, globally. Some of you might have been with us in the Paris Air Show, and you could have seen our chalet was packed to the gills with the who’s who of federal aerospace and defense companies. As we all know, in this world that we live in, this has become a critical factor of an acceleration in many geographies, the most notable being in Europe, the step-up that’s happened with NATO in terms of what their commitments would be to spending there, not only defense, but also space as well. We obviously had the tax bill passed here in the United States around what defense looks like for the United States. We are in a lot of different discussions there.
Many of you know, we’re very strong in this vertical, and we’re leaning into making sure we capture a number of ways in which we get to help our customers deal with backlog and grow their businesses. You also saw that we’re going full steam ahead on making sure the startup community in space, in aerospace, is taking advantage of great capabilities and the broad set of capabilities we got with Arena, Codebeamer, Plus, and Onshape and what we could do across the entire portfolio. We’re all chips in. We believe we could help our customers dramatically in that area, number one. Number two is on your question around the U.S. public. I think some of the early-on conversations, particularly in Q3 around impacts to introspection by different agencies, new agencies, is still there.
I think because of the tax bill being passed and because of the criticality of things like NASA and the space program, etc., what the DOE is doing, we feel very well situated with how we serve those customers as well. We’re watching carefully. I’ll summarize that. Of all the geographies in the world, the U.S. is actually what we’re looking at over the course of Q4 and Q1 to get more clarity than the rest of the world, which is actually, quite frankly, getting more clarity on several geopolitical fronts, policy fronts than the United States is. We’re looking forward to the administration continuing to provide clarity to U.S. manufacturers across our customer base as well as the public side.
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: Awesome. Thanks so much.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Your last question comes from the line of Clark Jeffries with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Rob Dahdah, Chief Revenue Officer, PTC: Thank you for taking the question. Neil, what stood out to me were some of your comments around maybe some green shoots around inching up of win rates, not the all-clear signal, but maybe some reprieve in what has been a difficult selling environment. I just wanted to ask, what are your expectations for rep growth now that we’re getting to the past, the period of maximum disruption, kind of looking ahead to the year, not guidance, but philosophically? Do you think the wallet share benefits from the verticalization will be more impactful, or is there an opportunity here to increase the hiring on the rep side? Thank you.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Rob, do you want to start?
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Yeah. Hi. It’s Rob. Thanks for the question. It’s a formula we consider all the time because you always want to balance incremental costs with productivity and ensure that we have optimized productivity before we start to go and incur the cost of incremental heads. There’s definitely an opportunity relative to what we’ve done here with the verticalization and the industry approach. We also had some opportunity internally to reposition existing investments. While it wouldn’t show in the kind of aggregate total, you might find internally that we had the opportunity to put more direct sellers versus overlay sellers into particular roles. We’re continuing to look at that, but there’s no doubt that there’s opportunity for us as we go into the next year. If we see it, I’ve gotten great air cover from Neil and Kristian to add where responsible and appropriate.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: One last thing to summarize this. One of the things we said as part of the go-to-market transformation is we would make sure from a layering perspective, we thought through that so that we could fund on the ground in front of customer sellers and those that are technical specialists to actually really think about increasing wallet share and get the messaging out that we’re all, as you could tell, super jazzed about to get in front of our customers.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Really appreciate the call.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: All right.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Really appreciate the call.
Kristian Talvitie, Chief Financial Officer, PTC: Thank you everyone for joining us and dealing with the fire alarms. We apologize for that. Thanks for your patience and for your questions also today. We’ll be on the road in the weeks ahead, participating in investor conferences in August. Kristian will attend the virtual Oppenheimer conference in September. Kristian and I will be in the Big Apple at the Citi Conference. Looking forward to seeing you all. Matt will attend the Piper Sandler Conference in Nashville. We really appreciate the engagement today. Thanks a lot.
Matt Shimao, Head of Investor Relations, PTC: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s call. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect.
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