Earnings call transcript: Sleep Number’s Q4 2024 revenue miss impacts stock

Sleep Number Corporation reported its fourth-quarter 2024 earnings, revealing a slight earnings per share (EPS) beat but a significant revenue miss. The company’s stock fell 9.62% in aftermarket trading, closing at $11.65, down from $12.63. According to InvestingPro data, the stock has declined nearly 14% in the past week alone, with a beta of 2.15 indicating higher volatility than the broader market. The market reaction reflects investor concerns over the company’s revenue performance amidst challenging market conditions.

Key Takeaways

• Sleep Number’s Q4 2024 EPS was -0.21, slightly better than the forecast of -0.22.
• Revenue fell short at $377 million, compared to a forecast of $413.17 million.
• The stock dropped 9.62% in aftermarket trading following the earnings release.
• The company introduced the successful Climate Cool series, focusing on higher-margin products.

Company Performance

Sleep Number’s performance in Q4 2024 highlighted ongoing challenges, with net sales declining 12% year-over-year to $377 million. Despite this, the company improved its adjusted EBITDA by 43% to $26 million, thanks to cost management efforts. InvestingPro analysis reveals impressive gross profit margins of 58.8%, though the company faces significant debt challenges with a debt-to-capital ratio of 0.76. The introduction of the Climate Cool series and a focus on higher-margin products have been positive steps, but market conditions remain tough. InvestingPro subscribers have access to 11 additional key insights about Sleep Number’s financial health and future prospects.

Financial Highlights

• Revenue: $377 million, down 12% year-over-year.
• EPS: -0.21, slightly better than the forecast of -0.22.
• Adjusted EBITDA: $26 million, up 43% year-over-year.
• Gross Margin Rate: 59.9% in Q4, a 190 basis point increase.

Earnings vs. Forecast

Sleep Number’s EPS of -0.21 slightly exceeded the forecast of -0.22, representing a small positive surprise. However, revenue fell short at $377 million against an expected $413.17 million, marking a significant miss.

Market Reaction

The stock fell 9.62% in aftermarket trading, reacting negatively to the revenue shortfall. The decline positions the stock closer to its 52-week low of $8.13, reflecting investor concerns despite a slight EPS beat.

Outlook & Guidance

The company refrained from providing specific guidance for 2025 due to an upcoming CEO transition. Sleep Number plans to focus on cost efficiency and margin improvement while exploring debt restructuring options. InvestingPro’s Fair Value analysis suggests the stock is currently undervalued, though investors should note the company’s weak overall financial health score and significant debt burden. Get access to detailed valuation metrics and comprehensive analysis through InvestingPro’s advanced research tools.

Executive Commentary

CEO Shelley Iabach stated, "We remain disciplined in executing our strategy, focusing on improving efficiency, eliminating waste, and driving innovation." CFO Francis Li added, "We have made significant and important progress in reshaping our cost structure."

Risks and Challenges

• Supply chain issues, particularly tariffs impacting materials sourced from Mexico.
• Declining consumer sentiment and buying conditions for durables.
• Market saturation and reduced organic category traffic.
• The need for effective debt restructuring and cost management.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts focused on tariff impacts and pricing strategies. The company is exploring cautious pricing adjustments and optimizing its store fleet to drive online sales.

Full transcript - Sleep Number Corp (SNBR) Q4 2024:

Conference Operator: Welcome to Sleep Number’s Q4 and Full Year twenty twenty four Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed in a listen only mode until the question and answer session. Today’s call is being recorded. If anyone has objections, you may disconnect at this time. I would like to introduce Dave Schwanas, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations.

Thank you. You may begin.

Dave Schwanas, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations, Sleep Number Corporation: Good afternoon, and welcome to the Sleep Number Corporation fourth quarter twenty twenty four earnings conference call. Thank you for joining us. I am Dave Schwanas, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. With me today are Shelley Iabach, our Chair, President and CEO and Francis Li, our Chief Financial Officer. This telephone conference is being recorded and will be available on our website at sleepnumber.com.

Please refer to the details in our news release to access the replay. Please also refer to our news release for a reconciliation of certain non GAAP financial measures and supplemental financial information included in the news release or that may be discussed on this call. The primary purpose of this call is to discuss the results of the fiscal period just ended. However, our commentary and responses to your questions may include certain forward looking statements. These forward looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties outlined in our earnings news release and discussed in some detail in our annual report on Form 10 K and other periodic filings with the SEC.

The company’s actual future results may vary materially. I will now turn the call over to Shelley for her comments.

Shelley Iabach, Chair, President and CEO, Sleep Number Corporation: Good afternoon, everyone. My SleepIQ score was 84 last night. As noted in our press release, the independent directors of our Board have unanimously selected Linda Findlay as the company’s new President and CEO. She will join Sleep Number in that role on April 7. The independent directors and I are confident that Linda is the right leader to guide the company through its next phase of growth.

She will conduct the next earnings call and will share more about her background, perspectives on Sleep Number and the path forward. During today’s call, I’ll share highlights of our 2024 performance, including important progress we made during the year to restructure the business and position it for accelerating returns as the industry recovers. Then Francis will provide further details on our fourth quarter and full year 2024 financial results. The mattress industry faced an extremely challenging demand environment throughout 2024, a trend that has persisted into the first quarter of twenty twenty five. U.

S. Mattress volumes for 2024 were estimated at 24,000,000 units, which is the lowest level since 2015. Historically, low consumer sentiment and high interest rates have led to the lowest housing turnover in thirty years. Inflation and economic uncertainty continue to suppress discretionary spending. Since initiating our operating model transformation in the back half of twenty twenty three, we have implemented structural changes to reduce fixed expenses, enhance margins and cash flow and strengthen financial resilience across market cycles.

Driven by our team’s high level of commitment and disciplined execution, we further advanced our operating model transformation throughout 2024, delivering a 43% year over year increase in fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA. For the full year, adjusted EBITDA was $120,000,000 in line with the midpoint of our most recent guidance. Key drivers of this performance included gross margin rate improvement and operating cost reductions in 2024 that were nearly double our initial targets. Q4 gross margin reached 59.9% at the top end of our internal expected range, resulting in a full year gross margin of 59.6%, one hundred and ninety basis point increase over 2023 and nearly double our improvement target of 100 basis points that we communicated at the beginning of the year. The ongoing improvements in operational efficiency resulted in a $28,000,000 year over year reduction in fourth quarter operating expenses with a 2024 full year cost reductions of 88,000,000 Q4 net sales declined 12% year over year to $377,000,000 slightly below our expectations.

We remain focused on maximizing EBITDA and generating cash, which requires demand driving trade offs in this difficult consumer environment. We reduced our media spend by 18% year over year in the fourth quarter and 9% for the full year, bringing us back to twenty nineteen levels. Despite these pressures, this disciplined approach enabled us to reach the midpoint of our EBITDA guidance, highlighting the financial resilience we’ve enabled in this weak market. The consumer environment took a sharp downward turn in late January twenty twenty five with consumer sentiment dropping further in February. Consumer sentiment is now 12 points lower than it was a year ago.

Consumer purchasing power also weakened after the Fed held interest rates flat, potential tariffs were announced and inflation concerns returned. Declines were seen across all consumer metrics and demographics with a significant 19% drop in buying conditions for durables. As key macro factors macroeconomic factors like consumer sentiment, housing and purchasing power worsened over the past month, so did search interest in the mattress category impacting our Presidents’ Day event, the largest sales period in the first half of the year. In response, our teams have implemented contingency actions throughout the business to protect margin and cash flow, leveraging the robust transformational mechanisms we established over the past year. We remain disciplined in managing cost of acquisition, cost to serve, cost of goods and G and A R and D leverage.

Additionally, we have proactively worked with our bank group to amend our twenty twenty five financial covenants to ensure flexibility in navigating ongoing industry pressure. Francis will share further details shortly. While we are certainly not satisfied with our top line performance in this challenging consumer landscape, we remain focused on optimizing our media and promotional strategies to drive demand and maximize returns. Our new leaders in brand segmentation, creative and media are rapidly advancing initiatives that leverage our strong brand equity and loyal customer base. Using deep consumer analytics, our teams are refining strategies to optimize engagement, traffic and consideration.

We have seen green shoots in the following key initiatives. First, we are expanding data driven efforts to reach consumer segments most likely to purchase now by using personalized content and messaging for higher conversion. Second, we are leveraging smart sleeper loyalty. Our repeat customers are strong advocates who deeply understand the value of Sleep Number Smart Beds and are quick to embrace our innovation. We are refining our messaging to amplify their voices, enhancing credibility and engagement with new customers.

Third, we are strengthening our relationship based selling execution. We have recertified all sleep professionals on our selling process and customer relationship management strategies, supporting a more personalized customer experience and improved conversion. In summary, over the past eighteen months, we’ve transformed our operating model to enhance financial resilience in this persistently weak market. These sustainable actions position our premium brand and vertically integrated business model for long term profitable growth once the market recovers. We remain disciplined in executing our strategy, focusing on improving efficiency, eliminating waste and driving innovation to deliver value to our customers.

We are constantly striving for greater agility in response to market conditions and are taking decisive actions to prioritize cash, manage costs and maintain flexibility, ensuring Linda has a strong foundation in place to lead the company forward. As I prepare to retire from my role as President and CEO of Sleep Number, I am filled with gratitude for the passion and commitment of the Sleep Number team, partners and customers who have supported our company’s transformational journey over the past eighteen years. We’ve built a beloved brand with industry leading innovations and store experiences that have positioned the company for sustained success. Fleet Number will always be in my heart, and I know this great team will continue to build a competitively advantaged company. Thank you for your unwavering dedication to our shared purpose and relentless focus on our on serving our customers.

It has been an honor to build our culture together and improve nearly 16,000,000 lives through higher quality sleep. Now Francis will provide additional details on our 2024 results.

Francis Li, Chief Financial Officer, Sleep Number Corporation: Thank you, Shelly, and good afternoon, everyone. We made significant progress toward building a more resilient business model in 2024. We drove a 190 basis point improvement in our gross margin rate for the year even with greater than planned demand pressure, while also cutting our 2024 operating costs by double our original targets. The important progress we made in these two areas allowed us to offset a majority of the top line pressure for the year while building a stronger foundation for the business as the industry recovers. Now let’s turn to a more detailed review of our fourth quarter and full year results.

Fourth quarter net sales of $377,000,000 were down 12% versus last year and approximately three percentage points below our expectations. As planned, our fourth quarter net sales included one to two points of pressure due to a 5% reduction in stores year over year. Our fourth quarter gross margin rate of 59.9% was up three thirty basis points versus the prior year and at the high end of the guidance we provided for the quarter. Our gross margin rate for the last six months of the year was over 60%. Our fourth quarter gross margin rate increase was driven by the same key drivers we have been highlighting all year, including material cost reductions, ongoing supplier negotiations for all material components and year over year cost efficiencies in our home delivery and logistics operations.

The fourth quarter also benefited from favorable product mix year over year. We have aggressively executed cost efficiencies across the business to deliver on our adjusted EBITDA commitments as we continue to navigate the challenging macro environment. We reduced fourth quarter operating expenses by $28,000,000 versus the prior year pre restructuring costs, which was well above our expectations for the quarter. Fourth quarter operating expense reductions were broad based, including a year over year reduction in media spending, lower selling expenses as we benefited from lower store count and labor efficiency and lower R and D spending. We recorded an additional $4,000,000 of restructuring costs in the fourth quarter, bringing our full year total to $18,000,000 The fourth quarter restructuring costs included buyout and impairment costs related to the downsizing of our home delivery truck fleet as well as the buyout of a few additional store leases.

These additional restructuring actions allowed us to further reduce our fixed cost structure heading into 2025. For the fourth quarter, we generated $26,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA, a 43% increase versus the same period last year as we drove a three thirty basis point increase in our gross margin rate and reduced operating expenses by $28,000,000 more than offsetting the impact of the 12% year over year net sales decline. Our 2024 full year results included net sales of $1,680,000,000 down 11% versus prior year with demand down high single digits for the year. Our gross margin rate increased 190 basis points for the year, which was well above our original expectations. We reduced operating expenses by $88,000,000 or 8% for the year prior to restructuring costs.

Full year adjusted EBITDA declined 6% to $120,000,000 driven by the 11% net sales decline, partially offset by a higher gross margin rate and significant operating expense reductions. Our full year adjusted EBITDA margin of 7.1% was up 40 basis points versus the prior year despite deleverage from the year over year net sales decline. We also drove $4,000,000 of positive free cash flow for the year, which was up $70,000,000 from the prior year. The challenging macro environment has continued into 2025 and kept pressure on the consumer and related spending for our category. Against this backdrop, our demand year to date remains down double digits.

We have made significant and important progress in reshaping our cost structure over the past two years, including significant fixed cost reductions and improving our gross margins. We will continue to transform our business to create greater efficiency while being highly responsive to the dynamic environment. We are also working to mitigate and offset impacts of the recently enacted tariffs and are actively monitoring the fluid tariff situation across various scenarios. We will use the muscle we have developed over the last two years to drive additional operating efficiencies across the organization this year. This will include an ongoing review of our store fleet along with opportunities to further reduce both indirect costs and fixed costs across the business.

Given the weak and dynamic nature of the consumer environment, we have also executed an amendment to our bank agreement to provide additional covenant flexibility through the end of twenty twenty five. Beginning in 2025, the leveraged covenant maximum was set to return to four point zero times EBITDAR through the balance of the bank agreement, which expires at the end of twenty twenty six. The amendment extends our net covenant relief, which includes a covenant maximum of 4.75 times EBITDAR in Q1 and Q2, ’4 point ’5 times for Q3 and 4.35 times for Q4. More details regarding the bank amendment can be found in the eight ks we filed today. Our top priority remains to generate cash to pay down debt and reduce leverage.

We will continue to evolve our capital structure to put us in the best position to execute our strategy and deliver accelerating profits as the market recovers. This includes options we are currently exploring to restructure our debt this year. Given the impending CEO transition, we are not providing a financial outlook for 2025 at this time. We want to give Linda the time and flexibility necessary to evaluate our strategies and business trends prior to issuing 2025 financial guidance at a later date. Shelley, as you plan to retire, I want to express my gratitude for your vision and commitment to improving lives through individualizing sleep experiences for the last eighteen years.

You have transformed the business, inspired our teams, and created a culture that is dedicated to serving our customers and advancing the mission of Sleep Number. Thank you. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.

Conference Operator: Our first question will come from the line of Brad Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Brad Thomas, Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets: Hi, thanks. Good afternoon. And, Shelley, all the best as you move into retirement. Francis, I was hoping to ask you a question on just some of the gross margin puts and takes. You all have done some really good work on improving gross margin, understanding that things are a bit up in the air before Linda joins.

Can you just help us think about the runway that you still have and some of the levers that you’ve been pulling to improve margins?

Francis Li, Chief Financial Officer, Sleep Number Corporation: Yes. Hi, Brad. Thanks for the question. As highlighted in my prepared remarks and as we’ve been indicating all year, we have a robust program in place to examine all of our costs that looks across so many different opportunities. The broad buckets, as shared in my prepared remarks, are around material cost reductions, supplier negotiations, cost efficiencies.

And in Q4, we saw some product mix also aiding with that. As we go into next year, we’re going to continue to drive the muscle that we have toward relentlessly pursuing cost efficiency. And we’ll also benefit from some of the benefits that came in partial year last year that should anniversary into 2025.

Shelley Iabach, Chair, President and CEO, Sleep Number Corporation: And thank you, Brett, for the good wishes.

Brad Thomas, Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets: You’re welcome. Well deserved. And then maybe just one more follow-up on the big picture here. Again, understanding that we’ll get more details on thinking about strategies and initiatives as the year unfolds here. Is there any more roadmap maybe that you could share with us in terms of dynamics like door leases where you’re on the hook for an opening or ones that you’re thinking of closing or products that will be hitting the floor as we approach Memorial Day, anything that’s kind of locked and loaded on the horizon that’s almost certainly should happen that we should keep in mind as we think about the quarters ahead here?

Shelley Iabach, Chair, President and CEO, Sleep Number Corporation: Brad, I think one highlight and Francis alluded to it when he highlighted mix being a part of the gross margin rate goodness. If you recall, we introduced our climate cool and have focused on our climate series, which is higher margin and that was part of the objective with the climate cool bed. But that series is certainly outperforming our expectations. We’re, growing at the top and losing at the bottom. So, the pressure is at the bottom end of our line and the strength is at the top and that’s good for gross margin rate, but obviously not as broad as it needs to be to be driving our overall performance in this really weak market.

We expect to benefit from that climate series here in the first three quarters before we even lap the fourth quarter.

Brad Thomas, Analyst, KeyBanc Capital Markets: Great. Thank you very much.

Conference Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Bobby Griffin with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Alessandra Jimenez, Analyst, Raymond James: Good afternoon. This is Alessandra Jimenez on for Bobby Griffin. Thank you for taking our questions. And Shelly, we wish you all the best in your retirement. First, I wanted to quickly follow-up on tariffs.

Can you remind us how much of cost of goods sold would be subject to the recently implemented tariffs? And based on what we know today, do you have any pricing actions planned for 2025?

Francis Li, Chief Financial Officer, Sleep Number Corporation: Yes. Thanks, Alejandra. It’s nice to talk to you again. Obviously, the tariff situation right now is a highly dynamic situation with the enactment of them happening just yesterday. And certainly, it’s news that we’ve been aware of and have been examining and putting in place mitigation plans to shift suppliers, move production to other companies and other countries, I’m sorry, and look across all of our business.

Our exposure, our largest exposure comes from Mexico, which has about a third of our materials from there. And as a reminder, about 70% of our cost of goods sold relates to material costs.

Shelley Iabach, Chair, President and CEO, Sleep Number Corporation: And you also asked about pricing. We’ll be decisive with pricing and other actions as we work hard here. We have been and will continue mitigate, whatever we can on tariffs. And we also know that pricing has an impact on the top line, which it’s already a really pressured consumer, for this discretionary category. So very well aware of that and thinking about it, holistically.

Alessandra Jimenez, Analyst, Raymond James: Thank you. That’s really helpful. And then maybe just a follow-up on the door count rationalization. Is there any carryover impact to 2025 top line that we should keep in mind? And then what are you seeing for a recapture rate in 2024?

Francis Li, Chief Financial Officer, Sleep Number Corporation: Yes. So our evaluation of our stores is part of our routine process where we are executing store openings, repositions, remodels and closures. Certainly in 2024, we took advantage of some lease renewals lease expirations that were coming up as well as opportunities around some stores where we experimented with putting more stores in certain markets. And the transfer rate that we’ve seen on those, we’re definitely been pleased with and are part of all of our consideration. I think as you and they totaled a couple of points of pressure in twenty twenty, twenty twenty four.

So we’ll continue to run our playbook and our routine processes and obviously, maximizing store transfer plays into our overall profitability equation.

Alessandra Jimenez, Analyst, Raymond James: Okay. Thank you so much.

Conference Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Seth Basham with Wedbush Securities. Please go

Matt McCartney, Analyst, Wedbush Securities: ahead. Hi, good evening. This is Matt McCartney on for Seth. Congratulations, Shelly. I wish you the best in your retirement.

Just quick couple of questions here. We’ve seen another quarter of outsized declines in the online channel. Just wondering what do you think needs to be done there to get online back to at least parity with the store channel?

Shelley Iabach, Chair, President and CEO, Sleep Number Corporation: Yes. It’s really coming from the low end. I highlighted already that we’ve had pressure on the low end and that’s what you’re seeing on online. And you may have noticed we just recently did a test, it was the week after President’s event to just understand what that would mean for us to promote the C1 smart bed at $7.99 and it did make a difference in our online sales. So just an example, we keep iterating in this changing and weak consumer market that’s pretty inefficient and that’s the biggest pressure is at the opening price point of the line, the Classic Series.

But we like the margin that we’re getting at the high end of the line, but ultimately need both.

Peter Keith, Analyst, Piper Sandler: Great. Okay. That kind

Matt McCartney, Analyst, Wedbush Securities: of segues into my next question then. So just on average revenue per smart bed, saw some really nice growth there in the quarter. Just wondering if you could break down the drivers there between mix and promotions that had an impact and then the outlook going forward?

Shelley Iabach, Chair, President and CEO, Sleep Number Corporation: Yes. You’re right. It’s primarily mix. As I highlighted, the climate series, that’s the major driver there. If you look at discounts and financing, which we look at the two buckets together, in totality and we’re flat year over year as a percent to net sales.

But it does come out a little differently in how we apply those promotions, but we manage the entire bucket fairly flat. The, yes, the driver is definitely the series. Moving up the line, we’re having success with a higher income customer who is very interested in benefit driven products and doesn’t have the same level of purchasing power pressure that the opening price point customer does.

Peter Keith, Analyst, Piper Sandler: It’s very helpful. Appreciate it.

Conference Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Peter Keith with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Peter Keith, Analyst, Piper Sandler: Hi. Thank you very much. And, Shelley, I also wish you the best in retirement.

Francis Li, Chief Financial Officer, Sleep Number Corporation: Quickly, I was wondering, did

Peter Keith, Analyst, Piper Sandler: you guys give a demand comp for Q4?

Shelley Iabach, Chair, President and CEO, Sleep Number Corporation: We did not. We highlighted that, I believe we highlighted that it was down double digits the same as net sales. And I’ll maybe just take a moment to touch on that further. We, the consumer is pressured, housing is frozen, the environment is very inefficient. We’re continuously making trade offs between optimizing profit and investing in demand.

And Q4 is an example of that. We reduced our media spend, Peter, by 18% year over year and we saw modest leverage on our media spend in the quarter. And we recognize that other competitors may be spending in this more inefficient environment. For us, we’re prioritizing, the profit, and that’s where we’re focused right now. Obviously, we’re not satisfied with where our demand is.

But with our vertical model, we can see the consumer efficiency or lack of efficiency very quickly and we’re making decisions that tie to delivering the ROI. And for us in the fourth quarter, we missed our sales expectation by a few points, but we were able to deliver the midpoint of our EBITDA in the quarter and drove a gross margin rate at the top end of our expectations. So it’s a good example of the kind of trade offs that we’re making right now in this pretty tough marketplace.

Peter Keith, Analyst, Piper Sandler: Okay. I appreciate all the feedback there. And maybe just looking forward, I can appreciate it’s a very tough environment. What I guess are there certain metrics that you’re looking at when you could begin to pivot back towards trying to take share or just simplistically increasing media spend rather than decreasing? Are you waiting for what you feel is a good environment or is it a certain leverage ratio?

What are you kind of looking forward to give you those indications to spend more?

Shelley Iabach, Chair, President and CEO, Sleep Number Corporation: Yes, definitely waiting for a more efficient environment. Now I’ll just share the context of where the category is at right now. In the in a normalized macro environment, the industry benefits from about 25% organic category traffic. A year ago that organic traffic was running at 12%. In the back half of twenty twenty four, it dropped to 8%.

And when we see volatility like we did at the January, early February, that can go down as low as 4%. And so when you think about the organic traffic returning to 20%, that’s 10% to 12% efficiency improvement. So we are looking for a more efficient market so that we can as we’re striving to optimize our profits. We’re not just sitting here waiting. We’re certainly iterating every single quarter and we can see it really quickly.

And a good example would be in this first quarter, early January through the Martin Luther King event. We’re seeing the improvement that we were expecting and hoping for. And then there was a big shift at the January, early February. And, at of course, the wrong time as we’re heading into the President’s event. And we respond quickly, but you can’t always you don’t always have as much runway as you wish you did.

But we’re ready. And in the meantime, we’re testing and iterating into key initiatives like I described in my prepared remarks and finding the places where we can drive more demand, but doing so in an efficient way. And we’ve got some good green shoots and we need to scale them.

Peter Keith, Analyst, Piper Sandler: Okay. I appreciate that feedback. And maybe the last question, I appreciate the transparency on the current quarter. It actually aligns exactly with what we’re hearing out there, but I think you’re being a little more transparent than other companies. Has things in recent weeks even gotten worse?

In other words, like is the back half of February worse than the front half? Everyone’s trying to figure out if this change in consumer spending is temporary or maybe a sign of things deteriorating?

Shelley Iabach, Chair, President and CEO, Sleep Number Corporation: Well, February inclusive of the President’s event, which fell pretty late in the month, it does. It really comprises the most important selling period for the quarter. So how February goes, kind of that’s how the quarter goes. So I think it’s too soon to say yet about March. But February was the President’s event and we’re obviously disappointed in it.

Peter Keith, Analyst, Piper Sandler: Okay. Very good. Thank you so much. You bet.

Conference Operator: Our next question will come from the line of Dan Silverstein with UBS. Please go ahead.

Dan Silverstein, Analyst, UBS: Good afternoon and thanks for taking our questions. Our first question is, understanding the company is waiting to provide a detailed full year outlook, could you at least help us with any expectations you have around industry demand this year to frame the potential scenarios for the business? And then on that note, if mattress demand remains soft this year, how much further opportunity is there to drive expense savings just given the large absolute amount you guys have realized over the past two years? Thank you.

Shelley Iabach, Chair, President and CEO, Sleep Number Corporation: Yes. Thanks for the question. On industry demand, what we had heard prior to February was said everyone was expecting some industry recovery, maybe a couple two, three points this year, with the majority of the pressured front half and the growth coming in the back half. It’s really how similar to how we were thinking about the shape of the year expecting the front half to be more pressured with easier comparison improvement from initiatives in market in the back half. I suspect if someone were to re forecast at this point, they’re going to look at this first quarter and first half with a little more pressure and perhaps be more conservative on the full year as a result.

Francis Li, Chief Financial Officer, Sleep Number Corporation: Dan, I can answer your question too as we look toward the rest of the year. We’ve been managing our cost structure progressively over the past couple of years. We noted, for example, our team member count, for example, is down 34% versus 2021. And our two year cost reductions totaled $173,000,000 across $23,000,000 and $24,000,000 where we took out about half of that being fixed costs, about $85,000,000 of costs in 2023, ’80 ’8 million dollars in 2024. And those have been broad based across the business.

We’re going to continue to operate with additional contingency plans to the extent additional actions are required. And that’s certainly a muscle we built. And we’re not done with that as we have this mindset of continuing to drive durability into our model, which really places us in a great position for when the industry rebounds to come back with accelerating profits.

Shelley Iabach, Chair, President and CEO, Sleep Number Corporation: And as Brent said, yes, that’s across the four categories. It’s the entire business where we’re focused and really led it speaks to the commitment and innovation of the team and led to us delivering a far bigger number with more pressured top line here in 2024 and we expect to continue to perform in that manner.

Dan Silverstein, Analyst, UBS: Thank you. And maybe just one follow-up for Francis. With the amendments to the credit agreement, is there a revenue base that you can share as a minimum level for 2025 to stay within the new covenants at the end of the year? I know last quarter it was like $1,700,000,000 or so. Any update there or this will come later?

Francis Li, Chief Financial Officer, Sleep Number Corporation: This will come later. I think it’s probably tied into guidance. But, I’ll share that as we arrived at the covenant levels, we factored in our own expectations for the year and it’ll provide appropriate cushion for us in 2025.

Dave Schwanas, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations, Sleep Number Corporation: Thank you. And I would just add to that Dan. Keep in mind that when we said the 1.7, that was based on the covenants returning to that four point zero times EBITDAR level for 2025. So, we have them graduating down, but now the covenant level by the end of twenty twenty five would be 4.3535 times EBITDAR. So, obviously, the revenue number would be lower than the 1.7%

Peter Keith, Analyst, Piper Sandler: to stay within the covenants. Yes.

Conference Operator: And that will conclude our question and answer session. I’ll turn the call back over to the company for any closing comments.

Dave Schwanas, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations, Sleep Number Corporation: Thank you for joining us today. We look forward to sharing our Q1 twenty twenty five results with you late next month. Sleep well and dream big.

Conference Operator: This concludes today’s call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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