Earnings call transcript: SoFi Technologies Q3 2025 beats expectations, stock surges

SoFi Technologies reported its third-quarter 2025 earnings, surpassing Wall Street expectations with an earnings per share (EPS) of $0.11, compared to the forecasted $0.08. The company also exceeded revenue projections, posting $961.6 million against an expected $887.24 million. Following the announcement, SoFi’s stock price rose by 3.41% in pre-market trading, reaching $30.94. With a market capitalization of $36.02 billion, SoFi has demonstrated remarkable growth, delivering a 137.18% return over the past year. According to InvestingPro analysis, the company currently appears overvalued compared to its Fair Value estimate.

Key Takeaways

• SoFi Technologies exceeded both EPS and revenue expectations for Q3 2025.
• The stock rose by 3.41% in pre-market trading following the earnings announcement.
• The company experienced a 38% year-over-year revenue increase, reaching a record $950 million.
• SoFi continues to innovate with new product launches, including blockchain payments and AI-driven tools.

Company Performance

SoFi Technologies demonstrated robust performance in Q3 2025, with a notable 38% year-over-year increase in revenue. The company’s strategic focus on expanding its tech platform and financial services, which now account for 56% of total revenue, has driven this growth. The addition of 905,000 new members and a total membership of 12.6 million highlights SoFi’s expanding market presence.

Financial Highlights

• Revenue: $950 million, up 38% year-over-year
• Earnings per share: $0.11
• Adjusted EBITDA: $277 million (29% margin)
• Net income: $139 million (14% margin)

Earnings vs. Forecast

SoFi Technologies reported an EPS of $0.11, beating the forecast of $0.08 by 37.5%. Revenue also exceeded expectations, with actual figures at $961.6 million, an 8.38% surprise over the projected $887.24 million. This performance marks a significant achievement for the company, continuing its trend of surpassing market forecasts.

Market Reaction

Following the earnings release, SoFi’s stock experienced a 3.41% increase in pre-market trading, reaching $30.94. This rise reflects investor confidence in the company’s ability to outperform market expectations. The stock’s movement is noteworthy, as it approaches its 52-week high of $30.3, indicating positive sentiment among investors. Year-to-date, the stock has delivered an impressive 72.34% return, though InvestingPro analysis indicates relatively high price volatility. Get access to detailed valuation metrics, financial health scores, and expert analysis for over 1,400 US stocks with an InvestingPro subscription.

Outlook & Guidance

SoFi revised its full-year 2025 guidance, expecting to add 3.5 million new members and achieve adjusted net revenue of $3.54 billion. The company forecasts an adjusted EBITDA of $1.035 billion and adjusted net income of $455 million. SoFi’s upcoming product launches, including the SoFi USD stablecoin in 2026, are anticipated to support future growth.

Executive Commentary

CEO Anthony Noto emphasized the company’s comprehensive financial platform strategy, stating, "Our one-stop shop strategy is firing on all cylinders." He also highlighted the focus on quality in lending, saying, "We’ve been in the lending business for a pretty long period of time... focused on quality of our loans over quantity."

Risks and Challenges

• Potential interest rate fluctuations could impact loan demand.
• Regulatory changes in the financial technology sector may pose compliance challenges.
• Increased competition in the fintech space could pressure margins.
• Economic downturns may affect consumer borrowing and spending behavior.

Q&A

During the Q&A session, analysts inquired about SoFi’s strategy for funding growth and its approach to the student loan market. The company detailed its strong consumer credit performance and reiterated its commitment to investing in existing businesses while maintaining profitability.

This comprehensive performance and strategic focus position SoFi Technologies as a key player in the fintech industry, with promising prospects for continued growth and innovation.

Full transcript - SoFi Technologies Inc. (SOFI) Q3 2025:

Adam, Conference Operator: Good morning or good afternoon all. My name is Adam, and I’ll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the SoFi Technologies Q3 2025 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker’s remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, followed by 2. Thank you. With that, you may begin your conference.

Unidentified Executive, SoFi Technologies: Thank you and good morning. Welcome to SoFi Technologies’ third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me today to talk about our results and recent events are Anthony Noto, CEO, and Chris Lapointe, CFO. You can find the presentation accompanying our earnings release on the investor relations section of our website. Unless otherwise stated, we’ll be referring to adjusted results for the third quarter of 2025 versus the third quarter of 2024. Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are based on our current expectations and forecasts and involve risks and uncertainties. These statements include, but are not limited to, our competitive advantage and strategy, macroeconomic conditions and outlook, future products and services, and future business and financial performance. Our GAAP consolidated income statement and all reconciliations can be found in today’s earnings release and a subsequent 10-Q filing, which will be made available next month.

Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause these results to differ materially are described in today’s press release and our subsequent filings made with the SEC, including our upcoming Form 10-Q. Any forward-looking statements that we may make on this call are based on assumptions as of today. We undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. I would now like to turn the call over to Anthony.

Anthony Noto, CEO, SoFi Technologies: Thank you and good morning, everyone. We had an excellent third quarter. Our one-stop shop strategy is firing on all cylinders as we continue to deliver exceptional financial performance while also investing in our business to drive durable growth and strong returns over the long term. In fact, our focus on product innovation and brand building has never been stronger. There’s more happening at SoFi Technologies today than at any other time in my eight years with the company. We are stepping on the gas to accelerate the investment in our existing businesses and entering new areas like crypto and blockchain, AI, SoFi Pay, providing fiat and crypto banking services, and so much more. I’ll discuss some of these efforts momentarily, but first, let me cover our key results for the quarter.

Starting with the drivers of our durable growth, we added a record 905,000 new members in Q3, increasing total members by 35% year over year, a slight acceleration to 12.6 million SoFi members. We also added a record 1.4 million new products, also representing an acceleration in growth to 36% year over year and over 18.6 million products. Cross buy reached its highest level since 2022, with 40% of new products opened by existing SoFi members. Our cross buy rate has increased in each of the past four quarters, demonstrating the effectiveness of our one-stop shop strategy. Our strong member and product growth powered our revenue growth in the third quarter. Adjusted net revenue was a record at $950 million, up 38% year over year.

Together, our financial services and technology platform segments generated revenue of $534 million, which is up 57% year over year and now represents 56% of total revenue. This is the first time these segments have generated more than half a billion dollars of quarterly revenue. In our lending segment, adjusted net revenue grew 23% year over year to $481 million, driven by strong originations in this segment of $6.6 billion, up 23% from the prior year. Combined with the very strong $3.4 billion of originations in the loan platform business, total originations reached a record of $9.9 billion for the third quarter. This is an increase of $1.2 billion from our prior record.

I’m also proud to report that total fee-based revenue across our business was also a quarterly record at $409 million, up 50% from the prior year, driven by strong performance from our loan platform business, origination fees, referral fees, interchange revenue, and brokerage fee revenue. On an annualized basis, we’re now generating over $1.6 billion of fee-based revenue, reflecting the deliberate diversification of our business towards more capital-light revenue streams. In addition to delivering durable growth, we delivered strong returns and profitability. In the third quarter, adjusted EBITDA was a record at $277 million, up nearly 50% year over year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was 29%. Our incremental EBITDA margin was 35% as we continue to balance reinvesting in the business to deliver long-term growth and delivering profitability. Net income for the quarter was $139 million at a margin of 14%. Earnings per share were $0.11.

Finally, our tangible book value ended the quarter at $7.2 billion, which includes the benefit from a successful opportunistic capital raise during the quarter. Over the past two years, we have more than doubled our tangible book value. Our diversified business is uniquely built to deliver a winning combination of growth and returns. One way to measure the success is the rule of 40 calculation, which is revenue growth plus EBITDA margin. We’ve beaten the rule of 40 benchmark every quarter since going public. That’s 17 straight quarters. Over that time, our average rule of 40 score is 58%, making us a top performer among fintechs and technology companies more broadly. This quarter, we hit 67%. Despite these exceptionally strong results, I know that we are just getting started. The addressable markets across each of our products are massive in the U.S., let alone in addition to international markets.

In 2026 and beyond, we will uniquely start to benefit from both of the technology supercycles in AI and blockchain, where almost every other industry only benefits from one. With nearly 13 million members, the unmatched capabilities of our technology, and the business scale of $3.8 billion in annualized revenue, and a $45 billion balance sheet, we have a rock-solid foundation to build on. Given these dynamics, I’ve never been more optimistic about our prospects than I am today. This is why we are further accelerating our level of investment to make our existing products even better by providing the best speed, selection, and experience to build new products to help our members get their money right and to further strengthen our trusted brand name. Our investments will power our durable growth and drive stronger returns as we continue to scale.

Let me now spend a moment discussing our brand-building efforts, which are key to driving new members to SoFi and create a halo effect across our entire offering. During the third quarter, we launched an exciting new partnership with the NFL’s most valuable player, Josh Allen, to promote the most valuable product in financial services, SoFi Plus. Our partnership with Josh is resonating with NFL fans, driving a 35% increase in unaided brand awareness among that target audience. Along with our broader marketing efforts, we drove unaided brand awareness to an all-time high of 9.1% during the quarter, up from last quarter’s record of 8.5% and more than 4x higher than it was when we went public. Turning now to our product innovation. Last quarter, I spoke about how we are at an unprecedented point in time with two technology supercycles taking place in crypto, blockchain, and AI.

These supercycles have the power to completely reinvent the future of financial services, and we have moved fast to take advantage of these opportunities. I’m pleased to report that this week we launched our first payment product that leverages blockchain technology to provide fast, seamless, low-cost, and safe international payments with the launch of SoFi Pay. SoFi Pay gives members the ability to seamlessly send money in local fiat abroad by leveraging a layer two blockchain network and delivering local fiat into the account of the recipient. It’s fully automated in the SoFi app at significantly faster speeds and lower costs compared to traditional services. Members will first be able to send money to Mexico, with planned stage rollouts in Europe and South America in the near future. The SoFi Pay wallet will over time integrate SoFi USD stablecoin that we hope to launch in 2026.

We also have plans to offer the SoFi Pay app natively in international markets for foreign citizens to send money to the U.S. and many other international markets. This is another addition to our unprecedented money movement offering, which allows members to seamlessly send money through person-to-person payments with a phone number or email address, as well as Zelle, ACH, self-serve wires, and now the ability to send money internationally with SoFi Pay. I am also excited to share that this quarter we’ll be launching, actually relaunching, the ability to buy, sell, and hold crypto assets, which will give members access to dozens of tokens directly in our SoFi app. Beyond offering the best selection, we will also be providing the best speed and convenience. Members can instantly fund buying cryptocurrencies from their FDIC-insured SoFi money account, all within the integrated SoFi app.

Members will also have the ability to transfer the crypto assets to SoFi and benefit from our broad range of products that are seamlessly integrated with our SoFi North American Bank. Because many of our members may be new to crypto investing, we will support them with the best content to help them understand crypto investing and provide them with the peace of mind that comes from working with a regulated bank. This is just the beginning of our ambitious crypto and blockchain product roadmap that will continue to come to life in 2026. I could not be more excited about the product roadmap and the multitude of use cases we have for our planned stablecoin, SoFi USD, and our ability to differentiate a stablecoin like no other company, given our unique bank license, technology capabilities, portfolio products, and technology platform services. Turning now to the other supercycle, AI.

We continue to test and implement a number of AI applications across our business. Behind the scenes, AI technology has been key to streamlining our operations to better serve our members. This has included using AI to promote higher quality engagement and giving our frontline member service team AI-driven tools to more quickly identify and resolve member issues. AI is also now being used to directly support members. Our AI support chat is helping members resolve questions in an efficient way, driving a noticeable impact on member satisfaction. It’s currently integrated with our money and card products and will be rolled out across the entire SoFi platform this quarter. We’ve also launched the AI-driven cash coach to qualifying members. Here’s how it works.

From the home screen, members see a button saying "Cash to Optimize." By tapping that button, the cash coach will look across both their SoFi and external accounts to see where cash utilization is suboptimal and provide them with personalized financial suggestions. For example, if a member is earning just two lousy basis points of interest on deposits with a big bank, it may suggest moving that cash to a SoFi account earning 3.8%. Paying down a big bank credit card balance from a big bank that has a 25% interest rate. Cash coach is just the beginning.

Next year, we will launch a more comprehensive SoFi coach that incorporates insights across all areas of financial activity, not just cash, which will be able to help members understand how to spend less than they make and invest the rest by breaking down what they must do, what they should do, and what they can do every day across their entire financial lives. For example, they could ask the SoFi coach questions like, "How has my credit score changed? How can I reduce my cost of debt? How much do I spend on subscriptions? How diversified is my portfolio? How has my investing compared to others my age?" Over time, SoFi coach will be able to do even more, like provide investment and lending options to choose from, help set up and track goals, and simplify processes like canceling subscriptions and optimizing reward points.

We are so excited about how this AI-driven tool will help engage members and help them spend less than they make so they can invest the rest. Ultimately, SoFi coach will supercharge our financial services productivity loop and lead to a deeper relationship that drives a higher lifetime value. Turning now to product innovation within our segments, starting with the financial services segment and the loan platform business. LPB has been a game changer for SoFi, diversifying our lending activity in a capital-light, low-risk way. It is a prime example of how we can leverage our unique tech, customer acquisition, and operations capabilities to build a differentiated platform at scale. During the third quarter, we originated $3.4 billion of loans through our loan platform business, an increase of over $900 million from just last quarter.

On an annualized basis, after just one year, this business is now running at a pace of over $13 billion of originations and $660 million of high margin, high return, fee-based revenue. Importantly, we continue to increase the loan platform business near-term volume that is outside of our traditional credit box, effectively monetizing more of the roughly $100 billion of loan applications that we were not able to meet each year. Looking ahead, the opportunity for this business remains significant, and demand from our partners continues to increase. Recently, as some concerns have emerged within the private credit markets, we have actually seen our LPB partners lean in to do more with SoFi, not less, reflecting a flight to quality and durability through interest rate and economic cycles.

We have worked hard over the last eight years to develop unique skills in underwriting, marketing, pricing, insights, and data, and as such, we are benefiting from this flight to quality. Turning to invest. Earlier this month, we launched Level 1 Options, which has been consistently a requested feature by our members. Options are another way we are providing access to our members that they otherwise wouldn’t have so they can build portfolios that align with their financial goals. As part of this rollout, we also provide educational resources explaining how options work, the risks involved, and how to integrate them responsibly into a diversified investment strategy. Beyond options, we’re also expanding our unmatched selection in the third quarter by providing access to IPOs like StubHub, Klarna, and Figma, and by launching the SoFi Agentic AI ETF.

During the quarter, we also improved our features to make our invest products more intuitive and engaging. For example, we launched 24/7 instant transfers between invest and money, and we launched embedded rollovers and an enhanced rollover tracker, giving members full visibility and control over their 401(k) rollover process. In the fourth quarter, we’ll be making a number of additional enhancements. We are very excited about the progress made to build an investment platform that provides our members with way more options than what they would typically have access to. Turning now to SoFi Money, which has been a core part of our financial services productivity loop. In three years after acquiring our banking license, we have 6.3 million products and $33 billion of deposits.

Our attractive APY is a compelling reason for members to make us their primary financial institution, but members also come to us for our best-in-class products and continued innovation. For example, we will soon be launching the SoFi Smart Card, a new card that brings together the best features to help our members spend, save, and pay better. It’ll be part of our SoFi Plus offering, and it will serve as a platform for continuous innovation. The card will offer 5% back on food, our highest interest rate on deposits, credit builder capabilities, borrowing capabilities, and so much more. This is yet another way in which we are pushing the limits on what is possible with banking products. Turning now to our lending segment. Lending is the most tenured core capability of SoFi and is how our business got its start.

Since that time, we have made significant progress strengthening both our member acquisition and our underwriting capabilities. For loans that we hold on our balance sheet, we focus exclusively on high prime and super prime borrowers with strong cash flow and FICO scores. In fact, the average FICO score of our personal loan borrower is 745, and our student loan borrower is 773. We don’t stop at credit scores. We use tried-and-true underwriting techniques to assess each individual borrower’s cash flow and their ability to repay the loan. We are able to do this effectively at scale because of our innovative originations platform that leverages advanced technology and digitally enabled processes. The result is excellent credit performance that continues today. In fact, during the third quarter, we saw our net charge-off rates improve, even as there have been moderate signs of stress showing up for some other companies.

For both personal loans and student loans, net charge-offs were down more than 20 basis points in the third quarter. We also have a strong track record of building great lending products that help our members create a better future. For example, our innovative personal loan product allows members to refinance absurdly expensive credit card debt held at other institutions to save their hard-earned money. No longer will overachievers be suckered into chasing rewards only to realize they are paying over 20% interest on unpaid principal balances while earning essentially no interest on that same bank’s deposit account. We’ve recently made this product even more attractive to our members by rolling out an interest-only period to raise awareness of the personal loan product and help ease the transition from making credit card payments to making personal loan payments.

Similarly, in student lending, we have completely changed the game, becoming the preeminent company for refinancing student debt at more affordable rates. Our student loan refinance product can reduce a member’s interest rate by a couple hundred basis points, which will have a meaningful impact with a $40,000 loan balance. In fact, we estimate that we will save our members over $100 million in interest expense just on the student loans we refinanced during the third quarter. This is why we’ve made our product even more attractive by rolling out a feature that allows for the gradual step up in payments to help members find their footing. We look forward to helping even more members refinance their student loans as interest rates come down in the future. Turning now to home lending, where we are seeing very strong results.

In the midst of the higher rate environment, we built and launched a home equity loan product to help members take advantage of their equity that has been built up in their homes, particularly over the last few years. In the third quarter, just one year after launch, we originated over $350 million of home equity loans, helping us set a record of $945 million of originations for all of home lending. In fact, Q4 will likely be the first quarter where we generate more revenue from home loans than from student loan refinance, which was our first product and the largest product prior to COVID. At the same time, we are preparing for lower rates to further accelerate our home loans business in 2026.

We’ve not only strengthened our operations, but we have also enhanced our product to make them very attractive to our estimated 3 million members who currently have mortgages elsewhere and to those who may be first-time home buyers. We believe our offering will drive strong growth as the market opens up. Turning to our tech platform segment, this business has been instrumental in our ability to innovate across the SoFi platform, and it’s now allowing a broader range of companies to bring innovative programs that drive greater loyalty and engagement to their customers. In fact, today, we are incredibly excited to announce our newest partnership with one of the largest airlines in North America, Southwest Airlines, to power their Rapid Rewards debit card, which combines the convenience of debit payments while earning points on everyday purchases.

We’ve also signed on two major consumer brands, our largest yet, which will be announced in due course. These partnerships are a reflection of the strong and growing demand for our market-leading technology to power embedded financial products at scale for some of the most well-known brands around the world. As you can see, it was an eventful third quarter at SoFi, and we are as energized as ever as we wrap up the year and head into 2026. With that, let me now turn the call over to Chris.

Unidentified Executive, SoFi Technologies: Thank you, Anthony. We’ve delivered another strong quarter as we continue to drive durable growth and strong returns on the way to delivering record revenue in our eighth consecutive profitable quarter. For the quarter, revenue grew 38% year over year to a record $950 million. Adjusted EBITDA was also a record at $277 million and a margin of 29%. Net income was $139 million at a margin of 14%. Earnings per share was $0.11. Similar to the last two quarters, this included a small benefit related to a lower tax rate. An important driver of our growth was the increased contribution from capital-light non-lending, as well as fee-based revenue sources. Our non-lending businesses generated $534 million of revenue, up 57% year over year, and we also generated record fee-based revenue across all segments of $409 million, up 50% year over year. Turning now to our segment performance.

In terms of financial services, for the third quarter, net revenue was $420 million, up 76% year over year. Contribution profit was $226 million, up nearly 2.3X from last year. Contribution margin was 54%, up from 42% last year. Net interest income for this segment was $204 million, up 32% year over year, which was primarily driven by growth in member deposits. Non-interest income grew nearly 2.6X to $216 million for the quarter, which equates to over $860 million in high-quality fee-based income on an annualized basis. Importantly, improved monetization continues its strong contribution to revenue growth. Financial services revenue per product surpassed $100 for the first time, reaching a record $104 in the third quarter. That’s up over 28% year over year, and we see continued upside as newer products mature.

In Q3, our loan platform business generated $168 million in adjusted net revenue, up 29% from just last quarter. Of this, $165 million was driven by the $3.4 billion of personal loans originated on behalf of third parties, as well as referrals. Additionally, LPB generated $3 million from servicing cash flows, which is recorded in our lending segment. The growth opportunity for this business continues to be very strong. Beyond our LPB revenue, we continue to see healthy growth in interchange, up 55% year over year, driven by close to $20 billion in total annualized spend in the quarter across money and credit card. Shifting to our tech platform. For the third quarter, we delivered net revenue of $115 million, up 12% year over year. Contribution profit was $32 million at a contribution margin of 28%.

Revenue growth was driven by continued monetization of existing clients, along with new deals signed in new client segments. Turning now to our lending segment. For the third quarter, adjusted net revenue was $481 million, up 23% from the same period last year. Contribution profit was $262 million, with a 54% contribution margin. These strong results were primarily driven by growth in net interest income, which increased 35% year over year to $428 million. During the quarter, we had record total loan originations of $9.9 billion, up 57% year over year. Personal loan originations were a record at $7.5 billion, of which $3.4 billion was originated on behalf of third parties through LPB. In total, personal loan originations were up 53% year over year. Student loan originations were $1.5 billion, up 58% from the same period last year.

Home loan originations were a record $945 million, a year-over-year increase of nearly 2X. Capital markets activity was very strong in the third quarter. We sold and transferred through our loan platform business a record $4.6 billion of personal, home, and student loans. In terms of personal loans, we closed $175 million of sales in whole loan form at a blended execution of 106.4%. All deals had similar structures to other recent personal loan sales, with cash proceeds at or near par and the majority of the premium consisting of contractual servicing fees that are capitalized. These sales included a small loss share provision that is above our base assumption of losses and immaterial relative to the exposure we would have had otherwise if we held on to the loans. Additionally, we sold $90 million of late-stage delinquent personal loans.

By selling these loans, we’re able to generate positive incremental value over time versus selling after they charge off, both from our improved recovery capabilities and by maintaining servicing. In terms of home loan sales, we closed $585 million at a blended execution of 102.9%. In terms of student loan sales, we closed $377 million at a blended execution of 105.9%. In addition to our loan sales, we executed a $466 million securitization of loans originated through our loan platform business. This channel provides our partners with meaningful liquidity to support their ongoing investment in the loan platform business. The transaction priced at industry-leading cost of funds levels with a weighted average spread of 98 basis points. Turning to credit performance, the health of our consumer remains strong and our credit continues to improve.

Our personal loan borrowers have a weighted average income of $157,000 and a weighted average FICO score of 745, while our student loan borrowers also have a weighted average income of $157,000 with a weighted average FICO score of 773. For personal loans, the annualized charge-off rate declined by more than 20 basis points to 2.6% from 2.83% in the prior quarter. Had we not sold any late-stage delinquencies, we estimate that including recoveries between 90 and 120 days delinquent, we would have had an all-in annualized net charge-off rate for personal loans of approximately 4.2% versus 4.5% last quarter. The on-balance sheet 90-day delinquency rate was 43 basis points, consistent with the prior quarter. For student loans, the annualized charge-off rate also declined more than 20 basis points to 69 basis points from 94 basis points in the prior quarter.

The on-balance sheet 90-day delinquency rate was 14 basis points, consistent with the prior quarter. The data continues to support our 7% to 8% net cumulative loss assumption for personal loans in line with our underwriting tolerance, although we continue to trend below these levels. Our recent vintages originated from Q4 2022 to Q4 2024 have net cumulative losses of 4.4%, with 39% unpaid principal balance remaining. This is well below the 6.08% observed at the same point in time for the 2017 vintage, the last vintage that approached our 7% to 8% tolerance. The gap between the newer cohort curve and the 2017 cohort curve widened by a more favorable 29 basis points after a widening improvement of 19 basis points in Q2. Additionally, looking at our Q1 2020 through Q2 2025 originations, 60% of principal has already been paid down, with 6.7% in net cumulative losses.

Therefore, for life of loan losses on this entire cohort of loans to reach 8%, the charge-off rate on the remaining 40% of unpaid principal would need to be approximately 10%. This would be well above past levels, further underscoring our confidence in achieving loss rates below our 8% tolerance. Turning to our fair value marks and key assumptions. As a reminder, we mark our loans at fair value each quarter, which considers a number of factors, including the weighted average coupon, the constant default rate, the conditional prepayment rate, and the discount rate, comprised of benchmark rates and spreads. At the end of the third quarter, our personal loans were marked at 105.7% in line with the prior quarter.

This was primarily a function of a lower benchmark rate, which was mostly offset by higher prepayments and a modest change to the weighted average coupon, as well as a modest change to the annual default rate, which was driven by loan vintage seasoning, not changes to the individual loan loss assumptions. At the end of the third quarter, our student loans were also marked at 105.7%, down nine basis points from the prior quarter. This was a function of a modest decrease in the weighted average coupon, partially offset by a lower benchmark rate. Turning to our balance sheet. In July, we raised $1.7 billion of new capital in the form of common equity. This opportunistic raise significantly increased our capital levels and allowed us to reduce our higher cost debt by $1.2 billion, making our balance sheet even stronger and giving us great flexibility to pursue growth opportunities.

In the third quarter, including this new capital, total assets grew by $4.2 billion. This was driven by $2.7 billion of loan growth and approximately $1.2 billion of growth in cash, cash equivalents, and investment securities. Total company-wide cash at quarter end was $3.7 billion. On the liability side, total deposits grew by $3.4 billion to $32.9 billion, primarily driven by growth in member deposits. Net interest margin was 5.84% for the quarter, down two basis points sequentially. This included a seven basis point decrease in average yields, as we saw a modest mix shift from personal loans to home and student loans, and a three basis point increase in cost of funds, which was mostly offset by strong growth in interest-earning assets. We continue to expect healthy net interest margins above 5% for the foreseeable future. In terms of our regulatory capital ratios, we remain very well capitalized.

Our total capital ratio of 20.2% at quarter end is well above the regulatory minimum of 10.5%, as well as our additional internal stress buffer. Tangible book value grew $1.9 billion sequentially to $7.2 billion, including the benefit from the new capital raised. Tangible book value per share at quarter end is $5.97, up from $4.08 a year ago, a 46% increase. Let me now finish by providing our revised outlook for 2025. As we head into the fourth quarter for the full year 2025, we now expect to add approximately 3.5 million members, which represents approximately 34% year-over-year growth, above our prior guidance of 3 million members and 30% growth. We now expect adjusted net revenue of approximately $3.54 billion, above our prior guidance of $3.375 billion. This equates to year-over-year growth of approximately 36%, an increase from our prior guide of 30%.

We now expect an adjusted EBITDA of approximately $1.035 billion, above our prior guidance of $960 million. This represents a 29% margin. We now expect adjusted net income of approximately $455 million, above our prior guidance of $370 million. An adjusted EPS of approximately $0.37, above our prior guidance of $0.31. This equates to fourth quarter adjusted EPS of approximately $0.12, which assumes a Q4 tax rate of approximately 10%. We now expect growth in tangible book value of approximately $2.5 billion for the year, above our prior guidance of around $640 million. We’ve had a great year thus far and look forward to a strong finish. Let’s now begin the Q&A.

Adam, Conference Operator: At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. Please keep in mind we’ll only take one question per person at a time. Please rejoin the queue for any additional questions. Our first question comes from the line of Dan Dolev at Mizuho. Dan, please go ahead. Your line is open.

Anthony Noto, CEO, SoFi Technologies: Hey, Chris. Hey, Anthony. Amazing job. Very, very proud of you guys. Wanted to know, I mean, the question we’re getting from investors for the past month or so is consumer credit. I mean, you guys have done incredibly well looking at net charge-off rates coming down. Can you give us an overview of what’s going on? Maybe there’s a FICO sort of differentiated thing here that helps SoFi. Just maybe an overall view of how the health of the consumer credit across the different FICO branches would be great. Congrats again.

Chris Lapointe, CFO, SoFi Technologies: Sure. Thank you, Dan. The first message is our credit is performing very well. We have very strong performance by our members across each of the products, not just the performance of credit, but the spending that we see in SoFi Money, the engagement that we see in SoFi Invest, and general behavior overall. We’ve been in the lending business for a pretty long period of time. When I joined in 2018, one of our key priorities was focused on quality of our loans over quantity and to make sure that those loans were durable through an economic cycle and through an interest rate cycle and any liquidity dislocations. We’re constantly making changes to what marketing channels we’re in, the trade-off between pricing and credit approvals, the unit economics of a loan. We focus on having a 40% to 50% variable profit margin on our loans.

Sometimes we can drive more volume, sometimes we can drive higher margin. It’s a constant data science opportunity for us to perfect our loans. The strength of the consumer loans performance speaks for itself. It’s in the numbers. You can see our net charge-offs declined, i.e., improved versus last quarter. If you go back over the last couple of years, you’ll see that we made a lot of credit changes to ensure the performance stayed high quality when we went through a 500 basis point interest increase, and now we’re seeing rates come down. We’re seeing really strong trends in the channels and great demand from high-quality borrowers. We feel really confident if anything changes, we’ll make the adjustments accordingly. To remind everyone, we focus on a lifelong loss between 7% and 8%, and all indications are that we’re below that, as Chris has mentioned in the past.

Anthony Noto, CEO, SoFi Technologies: The only other thing I would add to Anthony’s point is that we’re also seeing really good demand from capital markets partners, which we view as a flight to quality. All in all, we remain vigilant as always, but our balance sheet is strong with high-quality loans, excess capital, and solid liquidity. Our partners are active and looking to expand their relationships with us. That’s a true testament to the credit that we’re underwriting.

Adam, Conference Operator: The next question comes from John Heck from Jefferies. John, please go ahead. Your line is open.

Anthony Noto, CEO, SoFi Technologies: John, you may be on mute.

Chris Lapointe, CFO, SoFi Technologies: Sorry, guys. Apologize. Technical difficulties. Congratulations on a good quarter and thanks for taking my questions. I guess my question is predominantly around the rate environment, you know, decreasing rates. If you think about the forward curve, I’m wondering if you guys could talk about how the lower rate environment will affect the volume mix on the lending side. Particularly, at what point do you think there could be a pretty big spike in student loan refinance activity? Second, unrelated, is maybe talk about what you guys expect in terms of deposit debate and what that means for NIM over the next few quarters. Thank you, John. We’ve said this in the past. Our business is diverse, not because we woke up and said we should make our business diverse, but because of our strategy of being a one-stop shop.

We’ve scaled our businesses across the portfolio of products that we offer as being a one-stop shop to a level that in environments we can drive different businesses based on the characteristics of that environment. When rates were high, we took a specific strategy. As rates are coming down, we’re taking an alternative strategy and it’s working. If rates stay exactly where they are, I think our business continues to operate incredibly well. I couldn’t be more optimistic about our near-term trends and what we’ll do in 2026 relative to our prior long-term guidance. I feel great about the environment we’re in right now. I do worry about things like credit. I do worry about things like, you know, heightened inflation. We look at asset flows, etc., etc. It’s not like we’re not worried about things.

We just feel really good about the positive things versus the things that could cause a problem. As rates come down, I think our business only gets better. If we stay with unemployment below 5% to 5.5% and inflation is at 3%, I think we’re in a really great environment. I’m not a student of believing inflation should be 2%. I think 3% is perfectly fine. We have global stability that will also be important. I think about things that could disrupt us as one economic, i.e., unemployment, two, financial liquidity, rates are coming down, not going up, and then three is the macroeconomic factors that are out of our control and exogenous events. As rates go down, our student loan business will benefit meaningfully. Rates have been very high for the last three years.

Federal student rates are high, and we can give them significant savings on a $70,000 balance. We will benefit from lower rates in student loan refinancing for sure. The home equity market, the home loan market, the real estate market more broadly will benefit from lower rates both in refinancing as well as purchase. As it relates to refinancing, less than 5% of our members that have mortgages have them with us. If you take everyone that’s on our platform that’s using SoFi and you look at the number of those people that have home loans or mortgages, only 5% of those with mortgages are with us. It’s a huge opportunity for us to market a lower cost of a mortgage to them.

We have the technology to know where their rates are, to deliver personalized messages to them, and we’ve built the back end and operational capabilities to deliver a reliable mortgage in a specific period of time. We feel really great about that. As it relates to SoFi Money, I’ve said this in the past. I’ll say it again. It’s starting to show itself now. In a high-rate environment, non-banks can compete with us on interest rate. Many choose not to because they’re trying to make more money with NIM, but it’s easy when rates are high when Fed funds are high. When Fed funds are low, it’s going to be really hard for non-bank and non-lending companies to compete with us.

Our competitive advantage will come through and show the world that we have the highest lifetime value and our broad-based portfolio of products allows us to give a superior yield when others are struggling to provide that yield because of the fact that we have both lending and we’re an insured deposit institution and we have a broad-based membership that we can market to efficiently for cross-buy. In the most recent quarter, 40% of our product growth came from cross-buy. That’s with our members growing 35%. Chris, would you add anything?

Anthony Noto, CEO, SoFi Technologies: Yeah. The only other thing I would add, John, to your comments on deposit betas and NIM over the next few quarters, we’ve been really successful in maintaining healthy NIM margins. This past quarter, we were at 5.84%. Maintaining these strong margins has been a function of the loan pricing betas that we have, as well as obviously our cost of funds. What we’ve demonstrated on the loan pricing betas front is in rising rate environments, we’ve been able to outpace rates and maintain really strong pricing. In down rate environments, we’ve been able to maintain solid pricing above where rates have gone. From an asset yield perspective, we’ve been able to maintain strong asset yields and reduce our overall cost of deposits, all while maintaining healthy growth in member deposits last quarter. Historically, we’ve been at about a 65% to 70% deposit beta.

We would expect that to continue going forward.

Adam, Conference Operator: The next question comes from Kyle Joseph from Stephens. Kyle, please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to get your thoughts on the competitive environment. Obviously, we saw your guidance for membership growth go up, which is obviously a positive. Is that a function of just kind of internal marketing efforts and brand awareness, or can we step back and think about things potentially getting less competitive out there? I think you talked about capital providers and the flight to quality you’re seeing. Just want to get your commentary there.

Chris Lapointe, CFO, SoFi Technologies: It’s a function of many factors. First, unaided brand awareness. Our goal is to drive unaided brand awareness higher. It provides productivity across our digital marketing capabilities and performance marketing. We talked about the 9.1% unaided brand awareness that we achieved in Q3, which we expect to continue into Q4. We have a number of new product launches that will also contribute. They will not just contribute directly because they are new products, but they’ll also contribute indirectly in that they’re raising awareness that we’re a one-stop shop. Specifically, our goal is to launch, buy, sell, and hold crypto by the end of the year. We’ll continue to roll out SoFi Pay to other international markets. The second bucket is new products. The third, we have a pretty good understanding of what channels to market what products in and have a good read on customer acquisition costs by channel.

We’re just ensuring that we continue to add more marketing at an efficient rate focused on profitability and growth. It’s our confidence in being able to do that in a bigger way in Q4 than we did in Q3, in addition to the new product launches that we’ll have and the benefit from unaided brand awareness. That’s driving our confidence. I will tell you our goals that continue to move along a linear curve to make sure that we’re not falling off that efficient frontier of marketing and brand awareness and spending. There’s a lot of upside from spending at efficient rates if we chose to grow even faster.

Adam, Conference Operator: The next question comes from Andrew Jeffrey at William Blair. Andrew, please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thank you. I appreciate you taking the question this morning. Anthony, as you see faster growth in the non-personal loan business, which I think is really encouraging from a diversification standpoint, does that change your thought on how you fund that growth on balance sheet, deposit-driven versus the loan platform business? Are there opportunities in the loan platform business for non-personal loan? I’m just trying to think about what the funding mix looks like as the origination mix shifts a little bit.

Chris Lapointe, CFO, SoFi Technologies: Sure. There are definitely opportunities in the loan platform business from non-personal loans. Chris and the capital markets team are working on that. Funding off of deposits is definitely an element that drives our durability and our confidence in lending. The dependency on deposits will likely reduce over time, and our cost of funds will also likely come down over time based on a bunch of decisions that we make as it relates to how to spend our capital. I do think you’ll continue to see us drive revenue streams that are not connected to capital. 56% of our revenue is now coming from our tech platform and financial services business, and that’s pretty meaningfully over time. You can see the benefit to our profitability line and our ROE and our tangible book value growth related to that.

There are a number of initiatives that we have that we haven’t talked about publicly that will also help as we leverage blockchain technologies in the lending space specifically that will help drive strong diversification of funding for our balance sheet.

Adam, Conference Operator: The next question comes from Kyle Peterson at Needham & Co. Kyle, please go ahead. Your line is open.

Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question and nice results. I want to drill down into the loan platform business in particular. I know there’s at least another fintech lender that recently said that at least some of the loan buyers from institutional investors were consolidating purchases to fewer platforms. Was the strength this quarter broad-based in terms of you guys adding participants on the platform on the funding side, or was it fairly concentrated with existing partners? Any color there, and if you guys are seeing anything similar, it would be really helpful. Thank you.

Anthony Noto, CEO, SoFi Technologies: Thanks, Kyle. We saw growth across both new partners as well as existing partners who have partnerships with us. What we actually saw is a bit of a flight to quality where a number of existing partners came to us and asked to upsize their commitments not only in Q3, but Q4. We expect continued momentum to occur in the last quarter of the year. We also saw some growth in new partners as well as expanding credit. Net-net, it was growth across the board.

Adam, Conference Operator: The next question comes from Reggie Smith at JPMorgan. Reggie, please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hey, guys. Great quarter. I guess I had a follow-up on the loan platform business as well. Is there a way to kind of frame the numbers, the number of buyers on the platform, and kind of what your next four-quarter capacity looks like? Also, talk about the process. I think you mentioned this a second ago, Chris, about how companies upsize their commitments.

Anthony Noto, CEO, SoFi Technologies: Kind of out there at the end, Reggie, but I think you asked about the process for how companies upsize their commitments. In terms of your first question about the number of buyers on the platform and what the next quarter’s capacity looks like, we aren’t going to disclose the number of buyers that we have. We have disclosed a few publicly with Fortress and Blue Owl, but we have a number of partners on the platform. What capacity looks like next quarter, we did $3.4 billion of originations on behalf of others this past quarter in Q3. We expect that to continue to grow heading into Q4. In terms of how companies upsize their commitments, they typically come to us intra-quarter if they have excess capacity or demand for incremental loans. If we’re able to fulfill by the end of the quarter, we’ll do so.

Chris Lapointe, CFO, SoFi Technologies: The behavior we’re seeing of consolidation down to higher quality, we’re definitely, as you mentioned, we think we’re benefiting from that based on the activity we’ve seen from those partners.

Adam, Conference Operator: The next question comes from Peter Christensen from Citigroup. Peter, please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thank you. Good morning. Thanks for the question and nice trends here for sure. Anthony, I was just wondering, can you remind us where we are in your investment cycle? Perhaps not just like the marketing and performance marketing, branding, those sorts of things, but maybe more so in capabilities. I know you’re going to be onboarding some new clients on the tech platform pretty soon and now building out crypto, whether that’s partnered or native. If you could frame for us where we are in the investment cycle. Thank you.

Chris Lapointe, CFO, SoFi Technologies: Yeah. I would like to invest a lot more than we’re investing, but we’re trying to balance both growth and being responsible for delivering profitability and good returns. We don’t want to go after, you know, penniless growth. The gating factor that we’ve put on and talked about publicly is to have at least a 30% incremental EBITDA margin. I say the word at least because if the business does well relative to expectations, it’s hard to spend back in a quarter. We may accelerate some hiring, but that really doesn’t impact the near-term quarter. It impacts the next quarter. We’ve hired a lot more people in 2025 than we set out at the beginning of the year because we’ve been driving both strong top-line growth and really strong incremental profitability. I would love to spend every dollar we could down to that 30% incremental EBITDA margin.

It’s not always possible to do that. That 30% incremental EBITDA margin will be the standard until we see our growth drop below, call it 15%. I think as long as we’re growing above that, we should invest in the business to make the top line as large as it can be. Over time, we can slow down our spending and drive margin expansion. We’re definitely not in the mode of driving margin expansion unless we outperform compared to the 30% incremental EBITDA margin. The areas we’re investing in will continue to iterate on our existing products. We’re focused every day on five things of our existing products: fast selection, content, and convenience, and then make them better together. There are some products that are new that we’ll increase the investment in, such as SoFi Plus. We’re really pleased with the progress we’ve made there.

There will be additional things that we add into SoFi Plus as it relates to value, one of which is the SoFi Smart Card. We think it’s the best of any card. It’ll have high rewards, 5% on food. It’ll also have high interest or highest APY. In addition to that, you can also build your credit score, and you’ll be able to use that relationship with us to potentially borrow both ahead of time and post-transactions. That will be an evolving feature set after we launch that will continue based on how we learn our members want to use the product, but focusing on the smart things that they want and making it have the best of everything. We talked about cash coach on the call. There’s a number of AI initiatives to help people spend less than they make and invest the rest.

It is a unique formula that we can deliver on in addition to the investing piece. You know, one of the things that’s interesting about our buy, sell, and hold for crypto is that the way we’ll launch this product is going to be pretty novel. Someone will open up a SoFi Money account if they don’t have a SoFi Money account. They’ll fund that SoFi Money account, and then all their purchases are drawn from that SoFi Money account. What’s the benefit of that? That SoFi Money account has FDIC insurance, and we’ve added additional insurance for our members if they opt in up to $2 million, not just $250,000. Someone can have an FDIC-insured bank account where they keep their funds and seamlessly be able to buy cryptocurrency, and the money moves from one entity to the next seamlessly behind the scenes.

A very efficient process that I think will be very differentiated and will be the first bank to offer buy, sell, and hold crypto. We’ve mentioned stablecoin on the call. I can just tell you every day there’s a new opportunity for us to leverage the SoFi USD stablecoin that we’ll plan to launch, and we have some unique advantages that we’re already a tier-one bank. What do I mean by that? Because we are a tier-one insured deposit institution, we could take the reserves of our stablecoin and put them at the Fed and earn Fed funds. What does that mean? Zero credit risk, zero liquidity risk. There’s not a stablecoin provider in the U.S. that can make that claim. Very differentiated, super excited about it, and there’s a number of other applications there.

You can imagine that Fed funds that we earn on those reserves, they could be given back to the consumer, they could be given to businesses to accept our payment at point of sale, and it can provide a lot of different benefits to other ecosystem partners that cause them to want to partner with us as opposed to a non-tier-one nationally licensed bank. We’re going to invest as much as we can to that 30% incremental EBITDA margin and sustain high levels of growth until it slows down, and then we’ll drive profitability.

Adam, Conference Operator: The next question comes from Moshe Orenbuch from TD Securities. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Anthony Noto, CEO, SoFi Technologies: Great, thanks. Maybe a little bit about the competitive dynamic in the personal loan business. Saw one of your close competitors got acquired by a large bank. Do you think that makes the business, you know, kind of a better competitive dynamic if that happens, or maybe just talk about that a little bit? If you could also just address, you know, you talked about becoming more capital-light. How much of that do you think comes out of the personal loan business, you know, in terms of doing less for your balance sheet or more proportionately more in the loan platform side?

Chris Lapointe, CFO, SoFi Technologies: In terms of competition for PL, I’d say it’s generally been a competitive environment, but from entities that are not large national banks or the top 10 banks in our country, they just don’t offer this product. I think there’s a lot of reasons for why they don’t offer this product. It’s a gap in their portfolio that allows us to really gain, I think, more members at efficient costs. I think the reason why they probably don’t offer their product is because they gouge people so bad on credit cards, and it’s such a great ROE product that they don’t want to cannibalize the credit card. The way you make money in the credit card business is through revolving balances. Credit cards average in the U.S. over 20% interest on those revolving balances.

If you actually had a prime member or super prime member and told them they were going to get charged 20%, they wouldn’t sign up for that any day. If you put that behind a fancy name of a card and all these benefits and high rewards, no one sees the high interest rate that they get, and they chase those reward points thinking they’re getting some benefits from it. They end up with a balance that they can’t pay off after one month, and they said they’ll do it after two months, and before you know it, it’s been six months. They now have a $10,000, $15,000 balance. They’re paying 20% to 30% interest on it. Would you refinance them with a personal loan at 12%? Probably not.

I think this is a product that we’re going to own from a leadership standpoint, and we’ll continue to bite away at these huge balances where people are paying over 20% interest when they can come to us and pay 12%. Again, prime and super prime customers.

Anthony Noto, CEO, SoFi Technologies: Yeah, what I would say on your point about being capital-light and how much of it comes out of the PL business, what I would say is total personal loan originations were up 53% this past quarter, year over year, and 7% sequentially to a record of $7.5 billion. We don’t see much in terms of overall cannibalization given our current market share, which is about 15% of total unsecured loans out there within our credit box, and that doesn’t even scratch the surface of all of the outstanding credit card debt, as Anthony mentioned. We’re seeing really good momentum on the LPB side, and we’re adding loans to the balance sheet at a pace that we are comfortable and happy with. This past quarter, we added about $2.7 billion of personal loans to the balance sheet, which is a good, healthy clip for us.

Adam, Conference Operator: Our final question today comes from Devin Ryan at Citizens Financial Group. Devin, please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thanks so much. Good morning, everyone. I want to come back to the student loan opportunity. Obviously, we talked about kind of the outlook moving into a better place there with the rate environment. Can you talk a little bit about how you see some of the actions of this administration driving kind of a better environment, whether it’s the big beautiful bill? A few weeks ago, there were obviously headlines around the government exploring selling some of its $1.7 trillion in balances, which would seem pretty interesting for you guys. I’d love to get some thoughts on that. I’m not sure if you can speak to it directly, but just more broadly, if you can, just what you think that means for the market and kind of the direction of travel. Thanks.

Chris Lapointe, CFO, SoFi Technologies: Yeah. I think it’s all very positive for SoFi. I think we benefit from all of those decisions if they get made. We look at assets from time to time that are for sale. If the government decides to sell their student loan portfolio, we’ll absolutely dig into it. It’d be a great customer acquisition tool, not to mention the fact that we can make a significant profit on that portfolio of assets. As it relates to potentially reducing the amount someone can borrow in order to go to college or grad school or business school or medical school or law school, we’ll be there to fill the hole. We want to help our members achieve the financial independence so they can live their ambitions.

Paying for college, paying for a home is absolutely a critical decision they make, and we have to be there for all those major decisions they make. We’ll absolutely be there if they need a solution that the federal government’s not providing, and that will also be a great business. Our in-school business for loans is a very profitable business. It’s very attractive, and doing more of that would be even better than the student loan refinancing. It’s at higher rates. It’s backed by credit of another person, and people really do want to pay back the benefit that they receive from getting a college education. That would also be an opportunity.

I would say more broadly, as we think about our educational system and think about the changing needs from a technology standpoint, AI, there may be new types of loans that we could get into from a student loan perspective that’s outside of a four-year type of experience that’s more suited for the professional environment new graduates will enter into. I think we’ll actually see some innovation because of what the government’s doing and because of the impact technology’s having on hiring undergrads.

Adam, Conference Operator: Great.

Chris Lapointe, CFO, SoFi Technologies: Thank you, Operator.

Adam, Conference Operator: It’s back to you.

Chris Lapointe, CFO, SoFi Technologies: Thank you, Operator. As you can see, it was an eventful quarter at SoFi, and we are energized as we wrap up 2025 and head into 2026. Today’s results reflect the durability of the foundation our team has been tirelessly building over the last eight years. If it was not clear before today, I think it’s safe to say that our results demonstrate that we truly have become a one-stop shop for all your financial needs all in one digital platform. Many others have talked about achieving this strategy, but to date, no one else has come close to the breadth of products or complexity of operations that we have, not to mention the revenue scale we have, the profitability we’re generating, and the durability and broad diversification of revenue across our portfolio of products.

This success positions us the best to benefit from the two tech supercycles unfolding and to continue the strong sector transition globally from traditional finance companies to fintech companies. Suffice it to say, I’m more confident than ever that our strategy and our execution will continue to deliver our sustainable competitive advantage with the highest lifetime value, and we’ll accelerate our investment to ensure we maintain our lead. Along the way, we will remain guided by the SoFi way. We are all operating as founders, problem solvers, and partners to bring the best products and services to our members so we can have a meaningful impact on their lives and lead them to a better, more secure financial future.

By acting in the best interest of our members, we will build deeper relationships across our one-stop shop platform that will lead to durable growth and strong returns for our shareholders for decades to come. Thank you for joining our call, and we look forward to talking to you next quarter.

Adam, Conference Operator: Goodbye. This concludes today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.

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