Earnings call transcript: Vivoryon Therapeutics Q2 2025 sees reduced losses

Vivoryon Therapeutics NV (market cap: $48.6 million) reported its Q2 2025 earnings, showcasing a significant reduction in net losses and operational expenses. Despite a decrease in stock price by 6.33% to $1.60, the company highlighted advancements in its kidney disease treatment pipeline. According to InvestingPro analysis, the stock shows significant price volatility, with a beta of 1.98 indicating higher market sensitivity than average.

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Key Takeaways

• Vivoryon reduced its net loss to $5.5 million, a substantial improvement from $13.6 million in the previous year.
• The company cut its R&D expenses by €7.5 million, focusing on cost-effective clinical developments.
• Varglutemstat, its lead product, secured a US patent, extending protection until 2044.
• The cash runway is extended to January 2026, with cash reserves at €4.8 million.
• Stock price dropped 6.33%, reflecting market uncertainty despite improved financials.

Company Performance

Vivoryon Therapeutics demonstrated improved financial discipline in the first half of 2025, significantly reducing its net losses and operational expenses. The reduction in R&D expenses from €10.3 million in 2024 to €2.8 million in 2025 was a key driver in narrowing the net loss. The company continues to focus on its innovative approach to treating kidney diseases, with a particular emphasis on diabetic kidney disease.

Financial Highlights

• R&D Expenses: €2.8 million, down from €10.3 million in 2024.
• General and Administrative Expenses: $2.8 million, reduced from $3.5 million.
• Net Loss: $5.5 million, significantly lower than $13.6 million in 2024.
• Cash and Cash Equivalents: €4.8 million as of June 30, 2025.

Market Reaction

Despite the positive financial results, Vivoryon’s stock experienced a decline of 6.33% to $1.60. This movement places the stock closer to its 52-week low of $1.37, indicating investor caution. InvestingPro’s Fair Value analysis suggests the stock is currently undervalued, with analysts setting a significantly higher target price of $9.91, though broader market trends and sector performance will likely influence future stock movements.

Outlook & Guidance

Vivoryon plans to initiate a Phase 2b study for diabetic kidney disease, with top-line data expected within 24 months. The company is exploring additional applications in rare kidney diseases and actively pursuing financing and partnership opportunities to support its strategic initiatives.

Executive Commentary

Frank Wieber, CEO, stated, "With varglutemstat, we have an excellent opportunity to become a unique, convenient new oral therapy for these patients with a high medical need." This highlights the company’s commitment to addressing unmet medical needs in kidney disease treatment. Mikhail Schafer, Chief Business Officer, emphasized the uniqueness of their approach, saying, "There is no evidence that any other drug would reduce pyruvate CCL2."

Risks and Challenges

• Financing: The need for additional funding could pose challenges if market conditions are unfavorable.
• Clinical Trials: The success of upcoming trials is crucial for future growth and market acceptance.
• Competitive Landscape: The presence of established competitors in the kidney disease treatment space.
• Regulatory Hurdles: Securing approvals for new treatments remains a significant challenge.
• Market Conditions: Economic fluctuations could impact investor sentiment and stock performance.

Vivoryon Therapeutics remains focused on advancing its innovative treatments while managing financial resources effectively. The company’s strategic initiatives and patent achievements position it for potential growth, despite current market challenges.

Full transcript - Vivoryon Therapeutics NV (VVY) Q2 2025:

Nadia, Conference Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Vivorion Therapeutics twenty twenty five Half Year Results Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be the question and answer session. Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded.

I would now like to hand the conference over to our first speaker today, Julia Nogebauer. Please go ahead.

Julia Nogebaur, Speaker/Presenter, Vivorion Therapeutics: Thank you, Nadia. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today to discuss the company’s first half twenty twenty five results and operational updates. This morning, Viforion issued a press release reporting its first half twenty twenty five financial results and also shared an update on the progress we’re making in advancing verablutinib within the kidney disease space. This press release is posted on Vivorion’s website at www.vivorion.com. On the call with me today are Vivorion’s Chief Executive Officer, Frank Wieber Vivorion’s Chief Financial Officer, Anne Doring and Vivorion’s Chief Business Officer, Mikhail Schafer.

I will begin today’s call with an overview of the unmet need in kidney diseases and highlight our most recent key achievements. I will then hand the call over to Anne, who will review the first half twenty twenty five financials. After that, Mikael will provide insights into new mechanistic and preclinx data supporting the development of rarburdanskat in diabetic kidney disease as well as in rare kidney diseases. Finally, Frank will wrap up the call with a summary and an overview of the next steps to advance our strategic priorities. Following the prepared remarks, we will host a Q and A session.

Before we start, I would like to remind you that during this conference call, we will present and discuss certain forward looking statements concerning the development of Vorion’s core platform, the progress of its current research and development programs and the initiation of additional programs as well as results of operations, cash needs, financial conditions, liquidity, prospects, future transactions and strategies. Should actual results differ from the company’s assumptions, ensuing actions might differ from those anticipated. You are therefore cautioned not to place undue reliance on such forward looking statements, which speak only as of the date hereof. Our aim at Livorion is to transform the treatment of kidney disease. Despite recent advances in the field, there remains a significant unmet need for effective treatment for kidney diseases, including chronic kidney disease and diabetic kidney disease.

These conditions often progress to end stage kidney disease and kidney failure. Current standard of care therapies can only slow disease progression. They cannot halt it or improve kidney function. Chronic kidney disease is not only a growing global health challenge, but also one of the largest unmet medical needs. By 02/1940, it is expected to become the fifth leading cause of years of life lost worldwide, underscoring both the human and economic burden.

Chronic kidney disease is marked by a steady decline in kidney function, often leading to disability and premature death. Diabetes is a major driver with diabetic kidney disease being a leading cause of end stage renal failure. Importantly, inflammation is a key pathway driving disease progression. This represents a critical area where innovation could really change the standard of care and where we are focusing our efforts with voradustat. Taken together, these dynamics highlight a significant opportunity for new therapies that address the underlying biology and position us to make a meaningful impact in a large, growing and underserved market.

The last two years have been pivotal for Viborion as the market transitioned into a company focused on development of varglutemstat for patients living with chronic and diabetic kidney disease. As many of you know, varglutemstat is an oral first in class potent and selective qPCDL inhibitor designed to prevent inflammatory and fibrotic processes by blocking pyroglutamate formation. It has demonstrated outstanding benefits on kidney function in Phase II clinical studies and is uniquely positioned within the evolving kidney disease landscape. In 2023, we laid the groundwork by amending the BVAP study protocol to include kidney function biomarkers. This decision was driven by a strong scientific rationale to explore viagutubstat beyond our initial focus on Alzheimer’s disease.

In 2024, we generated exciting data. Kidney function benefits was first observed in the VIVIAN Phase 2b study, with particularly strong effects in the diabetes subgroup. These results were further confirmed in the VIVAMINE study, and the data were presented at the ASN Kidney Week last year. We’re very well received by the nephrology community. Building on this foundation, the 2025 was marked by several important achievements.

We presented compelling kidney function data, including a meta analysis from our two Phase II studies, VEVIAT and VIVA MIND, in an oral presentation at the European Renal Association Annual Congress twenty twenty five. Across all analysis, verazolamstat consistently demonstrated statistically significant and clinically meaningful improvement in kidney function compared to placebo. We secured a new U. S. Composition of meta patent for birazutamab, supporting market exclusivity through 2044 with the potential for further extension.

Complementing the clinical data, we also showed a synergistic effect when combining vargutemstat with an SGLT2 inhibitor in a preclinical model. And today, we will show new preclinical data from a diabetic kidney disease mouse model, further validating vargutamab’s mechanism of action in diabetic kidney disease. Preparations for a dedicated Phase IIb study of vargutamab in patients with diabetic kidney disease are already well underway. And finally, we nominated our qPCTL inhibitor, VY2149, which has an improved pharmacokinetic profile as a potential follow on compound for development in CKD, CKD and rare diseases. Together, these achievements highlight both the near term clinical opportunities for voraglutidemstat in kidney disease and the long term potential for our approach.

And with that, I’d like to hand the call over to Ann for the financials. Ann?

Anne Doring, Chief Financial Officer, Vivorion Therapeutics: Thank you, Julia. I will now walk you through the first half twenty twenty five figures. Research and development expenses amounted to €2,800,000 in the 2025 versus €10,300,000 in the 2024. This reduction of €7,500,000 was largely attributable to a decrease in clinical development costs from the VIVIDEET and VIVA MIND studies as well as a reduction on production costs. R and D expenses in the reporting period mainly occurred for kidney related research.

We have seen a decrease in G and A expenses with costs of $2,800,000 in the 2025 compared to $3,500,000 in the 2024. The decrease of $700,000 was mostly due to lower personnel costs and a decrease in legal and consulting costs. All of this resulted in a net loss for the 2025 of $5,500,000 compared to $13,600,000 for the 2024. The company held €4,800,000 in cash and cash equivalents as of 06/30/2025, compared to €9,400,000 as of 12/31/2024. We have maintained our cash runway into January 2026, which does not include any funds from the standby equity purchase agreement announced in April 2025.

As of today, we have not initiated any tranches of Vascepa. Our spending plans continue to support the kidney disease strategy and the strengthening of our intellectual property position. And we continue to actively pursue additional financing and partnership opportunities primarily to fund the Phase 2b study. Now I would like to take this opportunity to update you on a temporary change in the finance team. I will be taking a temporary partial leave of absence from the CFO role in the coming months to attend to a serious family health matter.

Bavarian’s continued success and the company’s stability and continuity are crucial to me. And therefore, I am pleased to announce that during this period, Marcus Ehersfeld will assume the role of acting CFO, ensuring this continuity in financial operations and supporting the company’s strategic objectives. Marcus is an experienced healthcare finance executive and CFO, has been supporting Vovorean as a consultant since the 2024 and will require little effort to ramp up on the CFO tasks. This is a solution that I believe strengthens the finance and Vivorian team. Activities will continue uninterrupted during the period of my temporary partial leave, and we will work seamlessly together.

Marcus brings deep life sciences expertise, including five years as CFO of Viomi Therapeutics. He has led companies through all stages of growth from founding and early stage financing to exits and M and A. We would like to welcome Marcus to our core team and we look forward to the added knowledge and experience he will bring to the management team. I’d now like to hand the call over to Michael Schaefow, our Chief Business Officer, to provide insights into new mechanistic and preclinical data for veraglutidemstat.

Mikhail Schafer, Chief Business Officer, Vivorion Therapeutics: Thanks, Anne. Yes, welcome, everyone, and thank you very much, Anne, your words. Now let me continue with an update on the most recent R and D findings. Our lead product in development, barotenstat, has a truly unique mechanism of action By blocking the glutaminoglycan cyclase enzymes, qBCT and qBCTL, it effectively chews down several pro inflammatory and prophylactic signaling molecules by making them less active and stable. Now let me go a bit more into detail with this because the subcellular localization of these enzymes is also an important component in this context.

Proteins and peptides are synthesized on the endoplasmic reticulum. Some proteins are already fully functioned active then. However, another set of proteins requires further shaping in a process called post translation modification, which happens in the so called Golgi complex. You can see here the blue structure of the blue cell. And what’s important for us now is that a small number of proteins like selected chemokines of the CCL family, namely CCL two, seven, eight, and thirteen, as well as some other chemokines and signaling proteins require the activity of qPCTL for further maturation.

All these qPCTL substrates carry a specific signal sequence which guides them to the goal where qPCTL resides and where it catalyzes the formation of parabetamol forms or key variants of these substrates. Now why I’m telling you all of this? I’m telling you this because any drug with a purpose to effectively inhibit QPCTL has to not only go into the cell itself, but within the cell it has to enter the Golgi complex as well. And that is what barbitumstat does at the doses we have been

Julia Nogebaur, Speaker/Presenter, Vivorion Therapeutics: testing. And we

Mikhail Schafer, Chief Business Officer, Vivorion Therapeutics: were able to show this very nicely with a new and highly sensitive assay we have developed recently. This method uses liquid chromatography and mass spectrometry, which has the advantage to make detection antibody specific for every single PD variant option, saving a lot of time, money, and providing increased versatility. We have been benchmarking this assay with VIZIYA study samples and can show you here that at the six hundred milligram dose, valerbutamstat effectively reduces pro inflammatory cytokines PECCL2 and PECCL13 in plasma. And for PECCL2, the reduction was statistically significant. And we obviously were specifically interested in CCL2 as we had already seen and reported a dose dependent reduction of PECCL2 in VIBIA.

So these changes are consistent with our previous analysis. And right here, as a reminder, we have shown this data to you before. The change from baseline at week forty eight is depicted on the left of the slide. It correlates well with the dose dependent improvement of the kidney function measured by EGFR in patients treated with sorbitum study shown here on the right. While this analysis here combines the values of study participants in respective dose groups, we recently also have analyzed the data on single patient level in more than 200 individuals.

And with this waterfall plot here on the top left, you get a very good visual showing that valprozemstat treatment decreases PECCL2 in majority of participants here in purple, while most of the participants on placebo here in orange show increased PECCL2 levels, all depicted in a logarithmic scale here as change from baseline. And below, you see the correlation with the clear improvement in eGFR in the vast majority of patients on baroglitumstat, where the purple mariglitamstat bars show increased EGFR levels compared to the orange placebo bars showing decreased levels. And the right panel of the slide shows a statistically significant correlation between change in PDC level in zero at week forty eight and individual slopes in EGFR over time in a scatter plot that’s typically used for such correlations. This might look a bit complicated, but what you should focus on is that most of the purple circles are in the upper left quadrant, while most of the orange ones are in the lower right quadrant. The so called coefficient calculated from this reveals a medium inverse correlation, meaning that also statistically the reduced levels of inflammatory PDC CO2 correlate well with an increase in EGFR in kidney function.

This is also telling us that the majority of participants treated with vorbitostat had a positive EGFR slope, I. E, increased EGFR above zero, again, cooperating earlier findings. So in summary, we show here very clearly that improvement of EGFR correlates with reduction of PTCL2, not only if measured in dose groups, but also on the individual patient level. Now I would like to shift gears and turn to recent data from our preclinical models. As a reminder, we have previously shown a beneficial effect of valvulotinib stuff on inflammation, fibrosis, and kidney function in the ADI CKD mouse model.

We are now very pleased to report that we can incorporate these findings in an established model specific for diabetic kidney disease, the renin AAV CKD model. I should mention that this is a very harsh model using diabetic mice with an increased induced hypertension and only one kidney left. Now based on this mRNA that does not directly address diabetes or hypertension, two of the important risk factors of CKD, DKD reflected in this mouse model. But at the same time, you can clearly see here that qbctL inhibition with baragutamab started in a very impressive statistically significant reduction in inflammation as measured here by CD11c, fibrosis as measured by the glomerulosclerosis index, and the kidney biomarker plus supporting an improvement in kidney function. So seeing this effect in this severely impaired mice is another confirmation for the potential of our approach and underlying our prior findings in the ADI CKD model.

These are highly encouraging results in a model specific for our initial target disease, diabetic kidney disease. In addition to diabetic kidney disease, we are investigating further opportunities for our kidney function improving approach. And together with our collaboration partner at the University Hospital in Henrik Eppendorf, Professor Tobias Hoover’s team, we have been looking into kidney specific cells called podocytes in Fabry disease. Now Fabry disease is an X linked genetic neuronal storage disorder affecting more than one in fifteen thousand people. It is a rare disease which affects all ethnicities and is also recognized as being heavily underdiagnosed.

It is characterized by deficiency of a specific enzyme which leads to an accumulation of certain metabolic products, which in turn triggers a cellular stress response including generation of reactive oxygen species or ROS, in target kidney cells, the podocytes. This in turn resulted in multi organ dysfunction and chronic inflammation that particularly affects the cardiovascular and renal systems. Disease modifying treatments such as enzyme replacement therapy and or Keperone therapy have limited efficacy, particularly in advanced disease, which means that there’s a significant need for new innovative therapeutic approaches. The current life expectancy for affected people, even with the current treatment is fifty to sixty years. Now our partners at UKE have investigated Fabry podocytes, and specifically they have looked at loss levels, which are an indicator for chronic inflammation.

We have just received preliminary data for the effects induced by valvulotemstat and BPY2149 in this model. And here on the right, you see for both compounds a significant and dose dependent reduction in the ROS levels as opposed to untreated cells. Again, these are very preliminary data, but we are seeking for confirmation shortly from an additional assay using a technology that directly measures the oxygen consumption of the cellular level. These are very promising results, and they will help us and our partner to design follow on experiments towards additional therapeutic applications for our glutaminergic cyclase inhibitors in rare diseases. And with that, I’d like to hand over to Frank for the strategic summary and outlook.

Frank? Thank you, Mig. Thank you, Julian. There’s no doubt that there is a high medical need for therapies that can improve or cure kidney function in a majority of patients. And with ralaglutemstat, we have an excellent opportunity to become a unique, convenient, new oral therapy for these patients with a high medical need and to transform the trajectory of currently always progressing kidney disease to a stable situation.

The opportunity is accompanied by an impressive product profile we have already compiled. Well, the glucan study is a first in class single agent that has shown already to stabilize and partially recover the kidney function. And it is already at that stage we are a highly derisked development asset. Why is it derisked? Because first of all, there is a clear development path to the market in diabetic kidney disease.

There is no risk on the endpoints. There’s a clear regulatory pathway which we can follow. The second de risking is product specific. We have statistically significant and clinically meaningful data already on EGFR, which is the primary regulatory endpoint for approval. We have observed that effect independently in two studies, and we have done our homework by identifying the most promising subgroup, that is patients with diabetic kidney disease, which are a larger effect size than seen in other subjects.

We have already established an excellent safety profile with treatment duration over across two years, and we have also seen synergistic effects on top of the standard of care in diabetic kidney disease SGLT2 inhibitors in a mouse model. Further on, we promised previously that we work on rare diseases, rare kidney diseases, and Mick just has presented the first very promising data in Poway disease, which opens new opportunities both for voraglutamstat but also for the FLAB component. Then where are we today? We have already a compelling body of evidence. We have innovative compounds.

We have a unique asset, and we have consistent data. In summary, we’re a mid stage clinical company with a strong proof of concept that barboglutarstat improves kidney function. And we have the mechanism identified, and we dig deeper further, and we will continue on scientific excellence, as Sean mentioned, with the new data. And the data we see in the preclinical assays and experiments are very consistent with what we see in the clinic, so we have a strong translational evidence. The only limitation we see today is that the clinical data are generated in subjects with Alzheimer’s disease which have not been preselected for their kidney disease, and therefore for advanced kidney disease we have not yet robust data.

And this is why we are planning the upcoming milestone, and that is designing a phase 2b study to confirm the effect in those advanced EKG patients which are prospectively selected. That study is efficient and relatively short, and within twenty four months after initiation, we should have the top line data for that study. Now how do we get there? There is two opportunities and options to move forward with that study. One is financing, and one is partnership.

Because the new study, of course, requires funds which we don’t have yet. We are actively pursuing both pathways, financing and partnership, in parallel. We have received significant interest from pharma companies, and we are under CDA with VDAT is ongoing. The opportunity is good, and the quality of the data and the results are well received and confirmed by independent reviews and analysis. And we get, of course, important input by pharma companies on the next step of deliverables for the next study.

Ideally, for a partnership, we would present the data of a future phase 2b study to engage in a final collaboration. So where are we today? We have final steps to select the CRO for planned phase 2b DKE studies. We are minimizing the time and cost to the actual start of the study once we have secured financing, and we are discussing protocols with kidney experts to ensure the best outcome. We have also secured the study medication supply for that study.

So we are one step before the next milestone, and now we are looking forward that we can complete and initiate that program in the upcoming future. Thank you for your attention, and we’re open for Q and A.

Nadia, Conference Operator: Thank you so much, dear participants. And it comes from the line of Sushila Hernandez from One Landschaud Kempen. Your line is open. Please ask your question.

Meredith, Analyst Representative, One Landschaud Kempen: Hello. This is Meredith for Sushila. Thank you for taking our questions. My first question is on the planned Phase 2b in diabetic kidney disease, how are your protocol discussions progressing with the experts? My second question is about could you provide an update on how your partnership discussions are progressing as the mechanisms of action in kidney disease been a key topic given additional analysis you have conducted?

My third question, have you entered late stage preclinical development with VY2149? And my last question, could you remind us by how much you would extend your cash run rate if you draw under the SEPA? And do you currently meet the criteria to initiate these tranches? Thank you so much.

Mikhail Schafer, Chief Business Officer, Vivorion Therapeutics: I’ll start with the last one, and then you may need to remind me on the others because

Julia Nogebaur, Speaker/Presenter, Vivorion Therapeutics: Yes.

Mikhail Schafer, Chief Business Officer, Vivorion Therapeutics: Yeah. So a lot of questions. So the first is the sepa. We have no intention currently to, in the near future, to to activate the sepa. That’s what I can say.

That there is no no plans on the table. Therefore, theoretically, you know, the framework would allow us to to engage for 15,000,000,000 over three years, but there is no step taken and no decision taking to start that in the immediate future. So then that’s what can tell you. Then on the follow-up compounds, are you see that we are working deeper and further and continue to work on scientific excellence. That is, I think, a prerequisite to be successful in any science and any drug development, but we have not completed the nonclinical program.

Also, this requires additional funding because the regulatory part of the nonclinical program is probably quite expensive, and will be have a low single digit million number or mid single digit million number, which we would need to identify and in order to advance that program. Then the partnership discussions, I think we have been very specific, and we made a slide on it. I I think it’s not wise to go deeper and further because we don’t wanna disclose to the companies we’re talking to our strategy and how many and whatever. That is not a bad situation. So we we we keep we don’t say more than we have said, but I think it’s clear we are talking about it.

We’re looking at the best shareholder interest to to see what is possible and reasonable at that stage. And this is what we’re doing, and there is interest. There’s no question that there is interest. Then the protocol discussion, and that is that is a little bit more of history we can talk about, because depending on which expert you talk about, you get very different advice. And there are people who say, look, you’re your new standard of care in diabetic kidney disease.

Do an alchemy study. So just accept everybody with stage three before. Don’t make the criteria too narrow because the data I have provided is just a new standard of care, and don’t care about what the patient has. And there’s people who say you should bring a little bit more order in your patient criteria, and at least stratify them according to what they get as a baseline therapy, because your effect may be different, and too much heterogeneity may affect your statistical power. So there is a little bit of discussion how people see the data, what we can generally say there is excitement about the data, and there is a big willingness to continue and participate in this.

And then I don’t know what else did you ask. I think I missed one question, I think. Maybe. I

Meredith, Analyst Representative, One Landschaud Kempen: think about have you entered late stage preclinical development with the CY2149 drug?

Mikhail Schafer, Chief Business Officer, Vivorion Therapeutics: What I said is we have not completed the preclinical package because we would require some funding additionally to this, which we are currently identifying. So and also I have to say we have not spent and dedicated resources on it yet because we were waiting for the first orphan disease data, because we’re considering that the follow-up compounds may be particularly suitable for orphan diseases. And we needed the first data which were presented today in Fabry disease, so we are encouraged by this, and this is probably giving an additional push for the follow-up compound.

Meredith, Analyst Representative, One Landschaud Kempen: Okay. Thank you very much.

Nadia, Conference Operator: Thank you. Now we’re going to take our next question. And the question comes from the line of Joseph Haddon from Rx Securities. Your line is open. Please ask your question.

Joseph Haddon, Analyst, Rx Securities: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. One on the ECCL2 data that you presented today. Just interested, would you expect to see a reduced ECCL2 with other DK drugs that are slowing DKD drugs that are slowing decline on eGFR? Or is this specific to a vorablizumab?

Mikhail Schafer, Chief Business Officer, Vivorion Therapeutics: I think there is no evidence that any other DKD drug would reduce Pyroglue CCA2, because that is very specific for a glutaminoglycicase inhibitor. The pyruglucination of CCA two is something with 80 to 95, 99 done by the enzyme that can be spontaneous building, but they won’t be influenced by others either. As you know, there has been futile attempts to reduce CCA2 itself and not pyruvate CCA2 by other companies in the past. We don’t think that CCA2 is a valid target in kidney disease. You need to address the pyruvate version of CCA2 in order to get a result.

And then I think Nick showed in a clear correlation, that correlation we don’t see with CCA2. So first of all, to make it very clear, there is no evidence that any other drug would reduce pyruvate CCA2. Secondly, they may or may not affect CCA two in the past. There have been development programs, but from our point of view, that makes no sense at all because changing CCA two does not change the disease trajectory in kidney disease, which is already confirmed by other programs which didn’t deliver results, but also from our data. So I think we are in a particularly unique situation.

Of course, science has to learn it. Parabutomization is a form of protein maturation or trans protein modifications are not the standard of science yet in everybody’s lab, but people have to learn that these maturations have a very important effect on how these peptides work and how active they are and what cascades they trigger and whatnot. And there are big difference between CCA two and pyruvate CCA two. So that’s probably what I can say on this.

Joseph Haddon, Analyst, Rx Securities: Okay. Thank you. And then on your ERA Congress presentations, can you just give any color? Do you get any feedback that you can incorporate into your future plans? Or did it lead to an uptick in interest in your BD discussions or any investor, you know, increased investor interest?

Thanks.

Mikhail Schafer, Chief Business Officer, Vivorion Therapeutics: Yeah. I can confirm everything, and we have one of the parties showing up there. We have it’s one of those, which we have continuous discussions on the CDA. And I think it is important to to present the data. And I think it is it gives additional stimulus, and it clearly shows the evidence, and it’s a validation of the data.

I think it was a very successful congress for us.

Joseph Haddon, Analyst, Rx Securities: Okay. Thank you, Frank.

Nadia, Conference Operator: Thank you. Dear speakers, we’ll just give a moment for our analysts to generate any questions. Just give us a moment. Thank you. There are no further questions for today.

I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker, Julia Nogebauer, for any closing remarks.

Julia Nogebaur, Speaker/Presenter, Vivorion Therapeutics: Thank you all very much for joining. We really appreciate your ongoing interest and support. We’ve shown clear progress, and there’s a global growing momentum in the kidney disease space. So we are firmly focused on advancing to the next stage of our growth journey. Thank you very much and goodbye.

Nadia, Conference Operator: This concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now all disconnect. Have a nice day.

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