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Hydro One Limited reported its financial results for the second quarter of 2025, surpassing earnings forecasts with a basic earnings per share (EPS) of $0.54, compared to the expected $0.4929. According to InvestingPro data, seven analysts have recently revised their earnings estimates upward for the upcoming period, suggesting growing confidence in the company’s prospects. Despite this positive development, the stock saw a slight decline of 0.59% in pre-market trading, closing at $50.13. With a market capitalization of approximately $13.4 billion, revenue net of purchased power rose by 7% year-over-year, driven by strong growth in both transmission and distribution revenues.
Key Takeaways
- Hydro One’s Q2 2025 EPS of $0.54 exceeded forecasts by approximately 9.6%.
- Revenue net of purchased power increased by 7% year-over-year.
- The stock price fell slightly by 0.59%, despite the earnings beat.
- Continued investments in grid modernization and electric vehicle fleet conversion.
- Ontario energy demand projected to grow significantly by 2050.
Company Performance
Hydro One demonstrated robust performance in Q2 2025, with a notable increase in both transmission and distribution revenues. The company’s strategic investments in infrastructure, such as the Advanced Metering Infrastructure 2.0 system and electric vehicle fleet conversion, are positioning it well for future growth. Trading at a P/E ratio of 31.2x, the stock is currently valued at a premium relative to its near-term earnings growth potential, as highlighted in InvestingPro’s comprehensive analysis (unlock 6 more key insights with a subscription). Despite the costs associated with storm restoration, Hydro One’s effective management and strong market position in Ontario’s energy infrastructure continue to drive its success.
Financial Highlights
- Revenue net of purchased power: Increased by 7% year-over-year.
- Transmission revenues: Up 6.7%.
- Distribution revenues: Up 7.9%.
- Basic EPS: $0.54, up from $0.49 in 2024.
- Income tax expense: $61 million, up from $57 million.
Earnings vs. Forecast
Hydro One’s actual EPS of $0.54 beat the forecasted $0.4929 by approximately 9.6%, indicating strong operational performance. This positive surprise aligns with the company’s historical trend of exceeding expectations, reinforcing investor confidence.
Market Reaction
Despite the earnings beat, Hydro One’s stock experienced a minor decline of 0.59% in pre-market trading. The stock remains near its 52-week high, reflecting overall positive investor sentiment. InvestingPro analysis reveals that the stock generally trades with low price volatility, making it an potentially attractive option for stability-focused investors. The company has also demonstrated strong returns over the past five years, though broader market conditions may have influenced the slight dip in stock price. Discover detailed valuation metrics and 1,400+ comprehensive Pro Research Reports by subscribing to InvestingPro.
Outlook & Guidance
Hydro One projects EPS growth between 6-8% annually through 2027, supported by multiple transmission projects planned through 2032. The company announced a dividend of $33.31 per share and anticipates continued strong performance, driven by increasing energy demand in Ontario and strategic infrastructure investments.
Executive Commentary
David Liebiter, CEO, highlighted the growing energy demand in Ontario, stating, "Energy demand in Ontario continues to grow across the province with demand expected to grow by 70% by 2050." CFO Harry Taylor expressed confidence in future earnings growth, noting, "We continue to expect earnings per share to grow between six percent and eight percent annually through 2027."
Risks and Challenges
- Storm restoration costs may impact future financials.
- Slow progress in the Ring of Fire development could limit long-term growth.
- Potential cost pressures from future transmission projects.
- Regulatory changes and market saturation in Ontario’s energy sector.
Q&A
During the earnings call, analysts inquired about transmission project cost pressures and Hydro One’s cautious exploration of opportunities outside Ontario. The management expressed confidence in securing future projects and acknowledged the need for distribution system investments as highlighted in their first Integrated Energy Plan.
Full transcript - Hydro One Limited (H) Q2 2025:
Conference Operator: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Hydro One Limited’s Second Quarter twenty twenty five Analyst Teleconference. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised.
As a reminder, the call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s conference, Mr. Waseem Khalil, Director Investor Relations at Hydro One. Please go ahead.
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Hydro One’s quarterly earnings call. Joining us today are our President and CEO, David Liebiter and our Chief Financial and Regulatory Officer, Harry Taylor. On the call today, we will provide an overview of our quarterly results, and then we’ll answer as many questions as time permits. Today’s discussion will likely touch on estimates and other forward looking information. Listeners should review the cautionary language in today’s earnings release and our MD and A, which we filed this morning regarding the various factors, assumptions and risks that could cause our actual results to differ as they all apply to this call.
With that, I turn the call over to our President and CEO, David Lieber. Thank you, Joaquin. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for our second quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. This morning, I will provide an update on our recent activities and accomplishments during the quarter. Then Harry will take you through the financial results.
Before we start, I’ll touch on safety. It is at the core of our business and will always be a focus for us. This focus and commitment to safety goes beyond our day to day activities and include contributions to public safety. Recently, Hydro One, in partnership with the Advanced Coronary Treatment or ACT Foundation and other partners, trained more than 25,000 local area high school students in Lindsay and surrounding communities with critical CPR and AED life saving skills that will help care for their fellow community members. Today, more than 3,000,000 students across the province have been trained through ACT high school CPR and AED program.
We are very proud to be part of this achievement and our partnership with the ACT Foundation. Established in February, the long time partnership between ACT and Hydro One has provided continued access to CPR, AED, and now opioid associated emergency training for teachers and students across Ontario. Turning to the quarter, the damage caused by the March 2025 ice storm was severe and widespread With three days of ice accumulation causing uprooted trees, downed power lines, and more than 2,700 broken poles across the province, TigerOne crews, alongside 30 Canadian utility partners and contractors, work safely day and night in freezing rain, snow, and wind to restore power to our communities and those impacted by the storms. The cost associated with the storm, including those incurred by third party contractors and other local distribution companies that support the restoration efforts are approximately $225,000,000. As noted in our prior call, given the severity of the storm, we are applying to recover the cost through a debt factor application with the Ontario Energy Board.
This application allows utilities that experience a significant unforeseen event that was beyond the utility’s control to apply for cost recovery. We expect to file the application shortly. To help with cleanup and recovery efforts, Hydro One announced 50 recipients that included indigenous communities and municipalities who will need to receive up to $10,000 through the ice storm twenty twenty five recovery grant. The grants are part of our commitment to supporting recovery efforts and initiatives in local communities that were severely impacted by the storm. Energy demand in Ontario continues to grow across the province with demand expected to grow by 70% by 2050.
Hydro One is pleased to be part of this growth and continues to play a critical role in meeting the increased demand and supporting the province of electrification goals. Early in June, I was pleased to see the Ontario government release its first integrated energy plan or IEP titled energy for generation. The plan sets up a long term plan road map to 2050 for delivering clean, affordable, secure, and reliable energy. It unifies planning across electricity, natural gas, hydrogen, and emerging fuels to support economic growth, jobs, and energy security to meet the growth in demand and provide Ontario’s affordable, secure, reliable, and clean energy. As part of the plan, the government announced the acceleration of the development of transmission infrastructure and the modernization of the distribution grid, which will provide Hydro One with additional growth opportunities.
The new transmission project included the barrier to Sudbury transmission line, a new single circuit 500 kV line between the Etha transformer station and Hamner transformer station. There’s also early development work on a second 500 kV line. Bowman built in the great Greater Toronto area transmission line, a new double circuit 500 kV line from Bowman built switching stations and existing 500 kV station in GTA. Greenstone transmission line, a new 230 kV transmission line between Long Rock Transformer Station in Geraldton, and Nivagon Transformer Station, and connected to the transmission line near Nupicon Bay. And Windsor to Lakeshore transmission line, a new 230 kV transmission line from Log On Transformer station in Windsor to Lakeshore Transmission Station in Lakeshore.
The report also referred to the Orangeville to Barry Reconductor project, which involves reconducting the five zero one’s existing 200 k kd transmission lines between the Orangeville Transformer Station and the ESA transformer station, both in Barry. Subject to required approval and a sixty day consultation period, Ministry of Energy and Mines intends to declare these projects as priority projects and designate the new transmission lines to Hydro One. The Windsor Lakeshore transmission line was previously designated to Hydro One in March 2022. However, with the declaration of this project as a priority project and with some early development in the delivery to meet the emerging demand of the region. Our channel by Lakeshore transmission line project, which was completed and addressed at the 2024, represent a significant milestone as it was the first project to be completed to the industry leading fifty fifty First Nations equity partnership model.
We are happy to report the two First Nations partners having secured the necessary financing, enabling them to make their equity investments in the transmission line. This project represents the first time that we are advancing this project represents the first of your advancement in the fifty fifty partnership model and further enables First Nation investment into electricity systems to provide generational own own source revenues from indigenous communities. We are proud of these new partnerships and our ongoing efforts to advance reconciliation. We continue to collaborate with the remaining First Nation partners as they work to finalize their investment and financing decisions and expect to conclude this work by the 2025. After reaching 10 bit settlements with two collective agreements, the main collective agreement and the customer service and operations agreement with the Power Workers Union earlier this year, I’m happy to report these agreements were ratified by members of the union.
The agreement cover employees in frontline and customer facing roles across the company’s operations and will be effective from 10/01/2025 to 03/31/2028. Partnering with the Society of United Professionals continues as the party is working towards reaching an agreement ahead of 09/30/2025 expiry of existing contract. As is normal during bargaining and to respect the bargaining process between the team, we won’t be providing any further comments on this process. In May, we released our 2024 sustainability report. The report provides a balanced account of our performance across a range of sustainability measures and highlights our progress towards enabling the energy transition on Ontario, leading to a better and brighter future for all.
The 2024 report highlights accomplishments related to our long term targets and key initiatives, including reducing our operations driven greenhouse gas emissions, scope one and scope two operations driven emissions by approximately 41% compared to baseline year of 02/2018, converting approximately 44% of our sedans and SUVs to electric vehicles and hybrids since announcing initiative in July 2021. Spending over a $158,000,000 or 5.5% of our total source will spend in 2024 on materials and supplies from indigenous businesses, ahead of our target of 5% by 2026. Investing approximately $3,100,000,000 of capital in 2024 to expand and renew Ontario’s grid and creating over 60 hectares of pollinator habitat in 2024. These achievements reflect the alignment that exists between our strategy and sustainability, leading to a better and brighter future for all. Our actions reflect our purpose and commitment, and I am pleased that our actions continue to be recognized.
For the tenth year in a row, we are part of Corporate Knight’s annual list of 50 best corporate citizens in Canada. This award recognizes those entities that are committed to doing business differently and are committed to sustainability and environmental stewardship. We’re also proud to be recognized by the Forbes inaugural ranking of Canada’s best employers for company culture. Ranking surveyed more than 40,000 Canadian based workers, employed a company to at least 500 people, and involved a range of core company culture related topics, including fairness, inclusivity, and opportunity. Lastly, Hydro One was also recognized in Time Magazine and Statistics first ever list of Canadian best companies for 2025.
The list ranked the top Canadian companies from over 2,000 eligible companies based on metrics that include employee satisfaction, sustainability transparency, and continuous revenue growth in the last three years. These accolades reinforce what drives us every day and are a powerful reflection of our values, promises, and the dedication we all bring to work every day. Before I turn the call over to Harry, I want to take a moment to update you on some recent executive changes. It’s my pleasure to announce that Megan Telfer will take over as chief operating officer and will lead the safety, operations, and customer experience, capital portfolio delivery, strategy, growth planning, and Hydro One Remote Community Inc. Megan joined our Hydro One in 2020 and previously held leadership roles that include responsible for health and safety and environment, human resources, indigenous relations, corporate affairs, and customer care teams.
Lisa Pearson will assume the role of executive vice president, corporate affairs. Since joining Hydro One in 2024, Lisa has been responsible for building a trusted partnership partnership that deliver value for the customers and shareholders. In addition to her current mandate, she will also be in business relations, sustainability, and energy policy functions of Hydro One. These changes position us for the future and help us achieve our strategic objectives while driving economic growth across Ontario. With that, I’ll turn it over to Harry to discuss our financial results.
Harry, over to you. Thank you, David. Good morning to our listeners, and thank you for joining us today. In the second quarter, we delivered basic earnings per share of $0.54 compared to $0.49 in the 2024. The key drivers behind the year over year change included higher revenues, net of purchased power due to higher 2025 OEB approved rates and higher energy consumption.
These were partially offset by higher depreciation, amortization and asset removal costs resulting from store rest storm restoration efforts and growth in our capital assets higher interest expense, primarily due to an increase in long term debt outstanding and higher income tax expense primarily due to higher pretax earnings. Our second quarter revenues, net of purchased power, increased year over year by 7%. Transmission revenues increased by 6.7% year over year, primarily due to changes in OEB approved rates for 2025, coupled with contributions from our Chatham by Lakeshore transmission line following its in servicing in Q4 twenty twenty four and also from contributions from Hydro One’s investment in the East West Tie Limited partnership. On the distribution side, distribution revenues net of purchased power increased by 7.9% year over year, primarily due to the changes in, OEB approved rates for 2025 and higher energy consumption. There were some net income neutral items in revenue relating to third party storm recovery costs, which had corresponding offsets in OM and A, thus making them net income neutral.
On the cost front, operating maintenance and administration expenses in the quarter were higher by 0.3%. In the transmission segment, costs were higher by 14.2%, mainly due to corporate support costs attributable to lower capitalized overheads, lower insurance proceeds received this year compared to 2024 and higher asset write offs. In the Distribution segment, costs were lower by 10.4%, mainly due to lower work program expenditures, including vegetation management, lower corporate support costs due to higher capitalized overheads and a lower allowance for doubtful accounts. Depreciation, amortization and asset removal expenses for the second quarter were higher year over year by 9.5%. This was due to higher asset removal costs resulting from storm restoration efforts and higher depreciation resulting from the growth in capital assets as the company continues to place new assets in service.
With respect to our financing activities, we saw a 7.6% increase in interest expense year over year. This is mainly due to a higher amount of long term debt and higher weighted average interest rate on long term debt. Having said that, we continue to be pleased with the strength of our balance sheet along with our creditworthiness. Our current annualized FFO to net debt metric of 13.6% remains well above the threshold limits the rating agencies use in determining our credit rating. Turning to taxes.
Our income tax expense in the quarter was $61,000,000 compared to $57,000,000 in the same quarter last year. The increase was primarily due to higher pretax earnings, which were partially offset by higher deductible timing differences compared to last year. The effective tax rate this quarter was 15.6% versus an effective tax rate last year of 16.2. The current rate is consistent with our effective tax rate expectations of 13% to 16% for the remainder of the JWrap period. Moving on to our capital expenditures.
In the second quarter, we invested $913,000,000 which was an increase of 11.6 over 2024. The increase occurred in the Distribution segment as a result of a higher spend on storm related asset replacements and investments in Ontario’s broadband initiative. The overall increase in capital investment was partially offset by a lower volume of wood pole replacements and a lower spend on system capacity reinforcement projects within the Distribution segment. In the Transmission segment, we saw a slight decrease in capital expenditures, primarily due to a lower volume of station refurbishments and equipment replacement, lower spending on major development projects, a lower volume of line refurbishments and wood pole replacement and lower spending on spare transformer purchases. These were partially offset by investments in the Wassigan transmission line in the quarter.
Looking at in service additions. In the second quarter, we placed $591,000,000 of assets in service for our customers, which was an increase of 12.4% compared to the prior year. In the transmission segment, we saw a decrease of 49.3% year over year, primarily due to the timing of assets placed in service for station refurbishments and replacements as well as lower volume of line refurbishments. These were partially offset by investments placed in service for our A Really Good Distribution warehouse. In the Distribution segment, in service additions increased by 88.4% from the prior year due to a higher volume of storm related asset replacements, primarily related to the March ice storm and associated restoration efforts.
Also contributing to the increase were investments placed in service for the same Aurelia distribution warehouse and investments in the advanced metering infrastructure, known as AMI two point zero system. Looking ahead, we continue to expect earnings per share to grow between six percent and eight percent annually through 2027 using the normalized 2022 EPS of $1.61 as a base. Finally, I’m pleased to report that our Board of Directors declared a dividend of $33.31 per share payable to common shareholders of record on 09/10/2025. With that, we will open the phone lines and be pleased to take your questions. Thank you, David and Harry.
We will now open the call to take questions. We ask the operator to explain the Q and A polling process. We ask that you limit your questions to one question and one follow-up. If you have additional questions, we request you rejoin the queue. In case we can’t address your questions today, my team and I are always available to respond to follow-up questions.
Please go ahead, Shannon.
Conference Operator: Our first question comes from the line of Benjamin Sam with BMO. Your line is now open.
Benjamin Sam, Analyst, BMO: Hi, thanks. Good morning, everybody. Maybe you can update us. And I know last last you’ve been talking about the potential regulatory application maybe into next year, into the next day wrap program. Maybe just update us on the timing for that.
Is is the intention still a combined application and also on a multiyear one as well?
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: Sure. Ben, it’s Harry here. Thanks for the question. We continue to feverishly work away in preparing all the analysis and customer engagement to file our next joint rate application. We haven’t changed our expectations of filing it in the 2026 so that we have sufficient time to engage in settlement discussions and get everything done in advance of the new rate period beginning early twenty or 01/01/2028.
Benjamin Sam, Analyst, BMO: And you you mentioned also in your report a number of of power transmission projects all the way through 2032. So it and it sounds like, I guess, from your perspective, you you’re increasing maybe getting some good visibility to make provide and once the solid day wrap get it approved, you can roll forward a guidance that duration might be very similar to your your current one, a multiyear through 2032?
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: Well, the the each of the transmission lines will be a separate partnership. So our joint rate application for twenty eight to thirty two will be for Hydro One Networks Inc. Each of the transmission lines will have its own rate application once, we are ready to go and energize it. As we provide updates on our quarterly calls, we our guidance will include at a Hydro One Limited level all of the related capital expenditures, OM and A expectations, earnings guidance that brings those in on a consolidated basis, but they’re separate rate applications. We will update capital guidance and timing once we get our Section 92, once we file our so called Section 92 lead to construct applications.
That’s when we have sufficient amount of engineering and cost estimates. So we’ve got a reasonable range within the capital expenditures for that base, and that’s when we will update our tables and update our guidance around CapEx.
Benjamin Sam, Analyst, BMO: Perfect. Thanks, sir. And just to clarify that, that’s the last question to thinking what I’m thinking about. I guess, the date, even if you get through post ’twenty seven, you can see an acceleration of EPS growth. Does that language include the potential priority transaction projects that you put in the earnings report?
Yes. Okay. Got it. Okay. Thank you.
Conference Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Maurice Choi with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Maurice Choi, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: Thanks, and good morning, everyone. Just want to touch on the Ontario integrated energy plan. But you’ve outlined a number of projects in that plan as part of your prepared remarks. Given your success rate in securing recent transmission projects, any reason to believe that you wouldn’t, again, have a high win ratio? And to that end, when do you see projects being awarded?
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: Hey, Maurice. David here. Thank you for the question. A couple of things. Some of those pro the transmission lines I spoke about will get awarded to us.
So they prob unless there’s strong opposition during the consultation period, there won’t be a competition on those. In the integrated energy plan, the the plan does speak to do some competitive procurement of transmission lines within the province. These are the lines that have longer lead times, are not time sensitive, are not holding back economic development. We remain really confident that if and when that occurs when a transmission line comes up just as we did two years ago, we will be the successful proponent in able to win those. It’s our backyard.
We know the territory better than anybody else. We have over 92% of the transmission assets already owned and operated by us, so we’re very confident we could be successfully if and when that does occur.
Maurice Choi, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: Any idea when those awarding are gonna occur?
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: No. No idea. That’s that’s a discussion between the independent electric system operator and the Ministry of Energy and Mines. As I said, we’re we now have 13 transmission lines designated to us, including the channel by Lakeshore. And I’m I’m concluding that the sixty day consultation period when it closes won’t have raised any objections to those three additional lines, and the one that’s early development will be awarded to us.
Maurice Choi, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: Understood. And my quick follow-up to that is, I
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: suppose when you look at all of
Maurice Choi, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: the transmission lines that you have been awarded, you know, some of these cost estimates aren’t out yet To Harry’s point, the section nine two applications will come. Are you are you seeing any higher cost pressures given today’s environment? And if so, do you anticipate that some of the projects will get pushed out in terms of timing? Or in spite of these cost pressures, do you reckon that the Ontario government will still wanna stick to the current timing and make sure that, I mean, doesn’t slip in the name
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: of economic growth? Yeah. I believe that the Ontario government will not want these timelines to slip. Economic growth is continuing ahead in Ontario. There’s still, you know, 40% of Canada’s GDP, 40% of the country population lives there.
These are priority transmission projects, so they will they will stick to the timelines that we outlined there. Certain part to your first part of your question, cost pressures. Yes. We have seen some cost pressures coming out of the pandemic. We’re seeing a little bit of pressure given tariffs, but nothing significant and nothing that we’re concerned about at this point.
And procurement team, which works in Harry’s portfolio, has done a fantastic job of onshoring, so increasing our Canadian purchases, looking for up to alternatives, standardization. So we’re initiating a lot of activities on this, so we’ve been working on for quite a while that are offsetting those tariff impacts.
Maurice Choi, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: That’s great color. Thank you.
Conference Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Jarvi with CIBC. Your line is now open.
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: Thanks. Just following up on the IEP. I think it’s fairly evident and obvious on how the transmission business can benefit from what was laid out. What about the distribution side? Is there anything inside of that plan or conversation do you think are sort of forming the outlook on the distribution, I guess, through the next phase and then into the 2030s?
Yeah. Good morning, Mark. How are you doing today, David? The integrated energy plan was pretty important from our perspective. It’s the first time that the ministry has acknowledged that the distribution system needs investments.
They talked about the distribution system operator. It talks about integrated planning with natural gas. Those are aimed directly at the distribution sector. So we anticipate this will allow us to move forward with modernization of the distribution grid and recognize the importance of the distribution grid in supporting economic growth. It’s not good enough to set the transmission system solid backfills, but you need to have the arteries that feed it out to those businesses and industries and homes and restaurants that people rely on for their day to day existence.
So so, David, is there anything then from that and how the framework’s been laid out that opens up some new investment opportunities for distribution, or is it largely just, you know, confirming your views in terms of where you thought the opportunities were? It does speak to innovation, so there should be some opportunities there. We’re looking to see what those might be. But mostly what it does is set the stage very nicely for us when we go in front of the Ontario Energy Board with JREF twenty eight, which is our next five year filing. It sets the stage nicely to say, look.
The investments we are planning on making are consistent with the integrated energy plan, consistent with the direction if the government would like us to take and consistent with economic growth support and economic growth in the province. So it it is an important document. It lies lays the foundation. It specifically doesn’t identify any new investments because, of course, we’re already making our advanced metering infrastructure investment, and we’re already upgrading our distribution automation system. So we’d already started down this path towards being a DSO, but this provides additional evidence, as I said, before we file our rate application.
Got it. And then just a follow-up for Harry. You’ve seen comments around the timing of the January application next fall. You’ll you’ll provide sort of a CapEx plan around that. Just curious to at that point, would you be sharing a little bit more in terms of financing needs, timing of equity?
Or is there something you think you could provide between now and then in terms of just updated views on equity needs? Or do we wait until the 2026? Mark, I’m afraid you will have to wait until the 2026. Once we file the rate application, there’s a lot of communication that we will do. There’s no question we see CapEx accelerating.
We’ll be proposing an acceleration in CapEx and assets placed in service, which will drive incremental funding needs. And it’s no secret that in the next rate period, we will need to issue equity in addition to continue issuing debt. And we’re already thinking through and, working on that right now, but I can’t give any specifics at this point, and that will come together. We do wanna be careful. We don’t want to prejudge the outcome or prejudice the discussion.
So we have to be as fulsome as we can in our communication, without creating any challenges for us in the, the settlement discussions as we go. So we’re gonna kinda thread a needle here in terms of expectations for the twenty eighth through 2032 period. Our
Conference Operator: next question comes from the line of John Mould with TD Cowen.
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: Good evening, everybody. Maybe just one more on the integrated resource plan. You you flagged the specific transmission initiatives that have been identified, you know, that are relevant relevant, excuse me, for Hydro One and touched on some of the competitive transmission procurement elements and sort of broader distribution implications. I guess, I’m just wondering if there are any other takeaways or or broader strategic implications that you saw for for the company coming out of of that plan? Good morning, John.
Thanks for joining us on the call today. The one that I I forgot to mention in my earlier response was the plan does acknowledge LDC consolidation that there would be advantages to the consumer in terms of lower rates. It would allow modernization of the grid to move forward at a faster pace. So we’re watching and waiting for an RP to participate in that process in terms of shaping how that might be brought about, but that that’s the one additional area that I didn’t mention. Okay.
Got it. Thanks for that. And then last quarter, you flagged the challenge of of securing manufacturing slots for equipment. Just curious how that dynamic’s evolved over the last three months. And if you could also touch on your efforts to continue to diversify diversify keeping your your suppliers.
John, I’ll cover that a lot. Our procurement team has been working hard with not only our vendor base, but also other Canadian utilities as we look to shift, in some cases, sources of supply and reduce exposure to U. S. Dollars, certainly reduce exposure to U. S.
Suppliers where we can, and there’s credible alternatives. We have not had issues in terms of securing manufacturing slots for long lead time items, particularly transformers. And we are very happy with the early benefits from finding Canadian sources, particularly for things like wood poles, which is kind of a natural, if you will. And, we are seeing some real benefits from shifting some sources of supply there. It’s early days.
As David mentioned, we haven’t seen any significant cost increases. We’ve been working through inventory and being proactive. So we don’t have any concerns, but it is, something the team is working on, pretty aggressively, with other our partner utilities around the country to ensure that we’ve got supply diversified supply base.
Conference Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Kenny with National Bank Financial. Just
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: curious if we can get a quick update on the Ring Of Fire development opportunity in the province. Maybe what key milestones we should be looking out for, whether it be on the policy front or industry activity related. And then perhaps you could just refresh us on what the critical minerals opportunity for the province in general could mean for your growth outlook. Good morning, Pat, and thanks for getting up early to join us on the call this morning. Ring Of Fire is really interesting.
Our approach towards the Ring of Fire has been to meet with the indigenous nations that are gonna be impacted by this that project with the development of that area, understand their needs, and get to build a relationship with them, and that’s been very successful for us. So far, I’m quite pleased the progress we’ve made there. Unfortunately, the passing of bill five in Ontario and bill c five federally have created a bit of a wrinkle in that the nations some of the nations feel that their rights and their ability to be adequately consulted and have influence and participate in these projects might be impacted by those bills. So I remain confident and optimistic that both the federal government, provincial government with the nations can work through work through those challenges, but that will take some time. So I would expect things to move forward a little bit more slowly than perhaps some people might have liked liked earlier on.
It is a very rich mineral area. There’s lots of critical minerals up there. I’m not a miner, so I’m not gonna try to say how rich and how important it is. But from everything I read and when I talk to the mining companies that are interested in there, it is a world class mineral there’s a world class mineral reserves up there, and everybody wants to get in there. I will say people recognize this has to be done in the right way.
It has to be done in partnership with the communities and the people that live in that area, and it has to be done in a way that respects the environment. So it will be perhaps different than developments we’ve seen in the past. As I said, I remain optimistic we’ll move forward, but there is some work that has to be done to build those bridges as a result of Bill c five and Bill five in Ontario. Understood. That that’s helpful.
And then I guess when it comes to potential opportunities that might come up, you know, outside the province, I’m not sure if anything has changed just in terms of how you’re thinking about bolt on acquisitions within, say, adjacent jurisdictions that might have a, you know, a net positive impact on customer affordability for Ontarians or perhaps other strategic benefits for your platform. Yes. Just curious to get an update on the the current market dynamic outside the province. Pat, it’s Harry here. I’ll start.
David can clean up if I have any omissions or errors. We it’s The good news is our domestic, for lack of a better term, our Ontario growth opportunities are pretty significant. And so that’s our primary focus, but we are open to other opportunities for us that will give us new and diversified avenues of growth as long as it doesn’t detract from what we are doing in Ontario. So it has to serve Ontarians’ interest, which it could, to your point about helping with affordability in terms of spreading costs over bigger bases, etcetera. With the both federal and, well, the first minister’s priority about the nation building projects, we’re certainly interested to see what can come from that where we can add some value and create some value for our shareholders and for our customers, if you will, without detracting from the agenda that we have in front of us.
So as long as it’s an adder and we can do it and feel we have the capabilities where we can add some value, we’re certainly open to it, and we’ll look and evaluate the opportunities. Pat, just just to build on Harry’s answer there, our largest shareholder, the province of Ontario, is supportive of us going outside Ontario providing and it’ll be providing if we don’t damage any of the work we’re doing within the province, which is critical as Terry just outlined, and providing it allows us to repatriate some additional profit back into the province of Ontario. So we have support from our largest shareholder, and the opportunities might exist out there, but we’re not gonna do anything to compromise the great growth rate that we see in Ontario and the responsibilities in place on us to develop those develop and deliver those priority projects to sustain economic growth in Ontario. Okay. That’s that’s great.
I appreciate the clarity. I’ll leave it there, guys. Thanks.
Conference Operator: Thank you. Our last question comes from the line of Robert Hope with Scotiabank. Your line is now open.
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: Good morning, everyone, and congrats on the new roles. Maybe to start with the kind of longer term Ontario transmission outlook and regulatory framework. Regarding your prior comments on achieving most of the transmission assets, even if they come up for a competitive bid, could we see in a scenario where increased competitions could potentially weigh on some returns on those projects on a longer term basis? Rob, I don’t good morning. We’re happy to compete if and when the ISO or the province wants to put something out for competition.
We think we can measure up well and compete well. I don’t know that competitive process would result in lower returns. The competitive process is designed to ensure the lowest cost is achieved for the customers, and then the returns will be based on the formula and the metrics supporting the ROE formula in place at the time the application is brought. So I think for us, it’s about making sure we put our best foot forward if and when there is a competitive process and bring all the expertise and capabilities that we have to it to ensure that we’re bringing the most value to the province and
Benjamin Sam, Analyst, BMO: the customers. I appreciate that. And then maybe just a cleanup question. The MD and
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: A notes that work programs were a little lower in Q2. How does that look for the rest of the year, especially given the fact that it’s been a very warm start to the summer as well as kind of some business station crews maybe tied up with prior works? Well, I think the biggest reason for the delta in Q2 was so much storm restoration work, which detracted from normal course. It replaced some work, but it was in a concentrated area relative to across the province. We’ll return to more normal levels.
Now that the storm restoration work has been completed and go from there. Thank you.
Conference Operator: Thank you. And that does conclude our Q and A session for today. I’d like to turn the call back over to Waseem Khalil for any further remarks.
David Liebiter, President and CEO, Hydro One Limited: Thanks, Shannon. The team the management team at Hydro One thanks everyone for their time with us this morning. We appreciate your interest and your continued support. If you have any questions that weren’t addressed on the call, please feel free to reach out and we’ll get them answered for you. Thank you again and enjoy the rest of your day.
Conference Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today’s conference. This does conclude today’s program, and you may all disconnect. Have a great day.
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