Earnings call transcript: InfuSystems Q2 2025 beats EPS expectations

InfuSystems Holdings Inc. reported its second-quarter 2025 earnings, revealing a significant beat in earnings per share (EPS) against forecasts. The company posted an EPS of $0.12, doubling the anticipated $0.06. Revenue slightly missed expectations, coming in at $36 million compared to the forecasted $36.04 million. Following the earnings announcement, InfuSystems’ stock surged 8.21% in pre-market trading, reflecting positive investor sentiment. According to InvestingPro, the company maintains a perfect Piotroski Score of 9, indicating exceptional financial strength. This is one of several valuable insights available in InvestingPro’s comprehensive research report, which covers over 1,400 US stocks.

Key Takeaways

• InfuSystems’ Q2 EPS of $0.12 exceeded forecasts by 100%.
• Revenue increased by 7% year-over-year, reaching $36 million.
• Pre-market trading saw an 8.21% rise in stock price.
• The company revised its 2025 revenue outlook to 6-8% growth, down from 8-10%.
• Strategic partnerships and operational efficiencies are driving performance.

Company Performance

InfuSystems demonstrated robust performance in Q2 2025, with a year-over-year revenue growth of 7% and a substantial increase in net income by 262%. The company’s focus on operational efficiencies has led to a 32% rise in adjusted EBITDA, reaching $8 million. With a healthy current ratio of 2.21 and strong liquidity position, InfuSystems’ strategic investments, including a partnership with Smith and Nephew and the acquisition of Apollo, are contributing positively to its growth trajectory. InvestingPro analysis suggests the stock is currently undervalued, though it trades at a relatively high P/E multiple of 40.24x.

Financial Highlights

• Revenue: $36 million, up 7% YoY.
• Earnings per share: $0.12, doubling the forecast.
• Gross margins: 55.2%, a 5.74 basis point expansion.
• Adjusted EBITDA: $8 million, a 32% increase YoY.
• Operating cash flow: More than doubled.

Earnings vs. Forecast

InfuSystems reported an EPS of $0.12, which was 100% higher than the forecast of $0.06. This significant beat highlights the company’s effective cost management and strategic initiatives. However, revenue slightly missed expectations, with a $40,000 shortfall, resulting in a -0.11% revenue surprise.

Market Reaction

Following the earnings release, InfuSystems’ stock experienced an 8.21% increase in pre-market trading, reaching $6.33. This positive movement reflects investor confidence in the company’s ability to exceed earnings expectations despite a minor revenue miss. The stock’s performance is notable, considering its 52-week range of $4.61 to $9.97. With a beta of 1.81, investors should note the stock’s higher volatility compared to the market. Discover more detailed valuation metrics and 8 additional key insights with InvestingPro, your source for professional-grade investment analysis.

Outlook & Guidance

InfuSystems revised its full-year 2025 revenue growth outlook to 6-8%, down from the previous 8-10% forecast. The company expects its adjusted EBITDA margin to remain at 20% or higher. Key strategic initiatives include the completion of an ERP system by 2026 and potential growth in the oncology and wound care markets.

Executive Commentary

CEO Carrie LeChant emphasized the company’s extensive reach, stating, "We maintain more than 800 national payer contracts covering 96% of the US population." CFO Barry Steele highlighted the impact of operational improvements, noting, "Our emphasis on operational efficiencies is translating into measurable performance gains."

Risks and Challenges

• The revised revenue outlook indicates potential market challenges.
• Delays in advanced wound care rollout could impact future growth.
• The restructuring of biomedical services with GE Healthcare may affect margins.
• Macroeconomic pressures could influence payer contract negotiations.
• Competition in the oncology and wound care markets remains strong.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts focused on the oncology market’s growth potential and the impact of the Apollo acquisition on billing efficiency. Questions also addressed the GE Healthcare contract’s margin review and the progress of the ERP system implementation.

Full transcript - InfuSystem Holdings Inc (INFU) Q2 2025:

Conference Operator: Good day, and welcome to the Infosystem Holdings Second Quarter Fiscal Year twenty twenty five Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Joe Dormey of Litam Partners. Please go ahead.

Joe Dormey, Investor Relations, Litam Partners: Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to review InfuSystem’s second quarter twenty twenty five financial results ended 06/30/2025. With us today on the call are Carrie LeChant, chief executive officer and Barry Steele, chief financial officer. After the conclusion of today’s prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions. Before we begin with prepared remarks, I would like to remind everyone certain statements made by the management team of InfuSystem during this conference call to forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Except for the statements of historical fact, this conference call may contain forward looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties, some of which are detailed by the risk factors and documents filed by the company with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the annual report on Form 10 for the year ended 12/31/2024.

Forward looking statements speak only as of the date the statements were made. The company can give no assurance that such forward looking statements will prove to be correct. InfuSystem does not undertake and specifically disclaims any obligation to update any forward looking statements except as required by law. Now I’d like to turn the call over to Carrie LaChance, Chief Executive Officer of InfuSystem. Carrie?

Carrie LeChant, Chief Executive Officer, InfuSystem: Thank you, Joe, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to InfuSystem’s second quarter fiscal year twenty twenty five earnings call. Thank you for joining us today. I will provide a second quarter overview highlighting key successes, addressing notable challenges and outlining our strategic priorities for the balance of the year and beyond. Then Barry will provide a detailed summary of our financial results.

I will then come back with some closing comments before opening the line to questions. We are pleased to report another strong quarter of financial performance marked by meaningful margin expansion, robust cash flow and enhanced profitability. In Q2, revenue grew 7% to $36,000,000 and gross margins expanded by five seventy four basis points to reach 55.2%. This resulted in a 32% year over year increase in adjusted EBITDA to $8,000,000 with EBITDA margin improving by four twenty seven basis points to 22.3%. Net income increased by 262% and cash flows from operations more than doubled both for the quarter and year to date.

These results reflect our team’s disciplined execution and ongoing commitment to process improvement across our organization. In addition to operational performance, we returned approximately $3,500,000 to shareholders through stock repurchases during the quarter, bringing the total shareholder return to $6,400,000 for the first half of the year. We have demonstrated a significant improvement in year over year operating cash flow, paired with a significant reduction in capital expenditures. This is in line with the expectations and trends we have discussed with you. For the first six months of 2025, operating cash flow was $8,700,000 an increase of $6,000,000 over the prior year, and net capital expenditures for 2025 were only $2,900,000 a decrease of 4,200,000 over the first six months of 2024.

We expect this strong cash flow to continue for the rest of the year. In a moment, Barry will share some additional details surrounding this. We use this cash flow surplus for a few different important initiatives aligned with our capital allocation strategy and priorities. These initiatives include buying back common stock under our share buyback program, acquiring a small company that facilitates our strategy to grow and improve efficiencies and advanced wound care, and payments to reduce outstanding revolving line of credit borrowing. Our positive outlook for additional strong operating cash flow for the back half of the year of 2025 positions us to make similar investments.

Now I’d like to touch on some underlying positives for the quarter. First, the relationship with Smith and Nephew is progressing as expected, and we believe we have an opportunity to beat our 2025 forecast. This business has lower margin, but is asset light because we rent the devices from Smith and Nephew. Revenue for the program was $1,600,000 during the 2025, 946,000 for Q2. So it’s still a small part of our total business, but it shows promise for sustained growth with minimal upfront capital requirements.

Second, investments made in 2024 for devices in the device solutions direct rental business are paying off. Last year, we bought 5,200,000 in devices for that business that have led to 3,500,000.0 in increased revenue annually. The rental business has one of the highest operating cash margins in our project portfolio. Third, oncology continues to be a solid contributor to steady and sustainable growth in both revenue profits and cash flows. And as such, we have increased our outlook for that business.

Finally, we are successfully managing spending in order to maintain or expand margins. Turning to our outlook this morning, we are updating our 2025 revenue growth outlook to a range of six percent to 8% from the previous range of 8% to 10%. There are a number of reasons driving the update, however, before I expound upon those, I’d like to share a few positive financial updates. Despite the slightly lower revenue guide, we are increasing our outlook for full year adjusted EBITDA and consequently raising our range of adjusted EBITDA margin by approximately 120 basis points to 20% or higher. This adjusted EBITDA outlook continues to include expenses we are currently investing to implement new business applications, our ERP, totaling approximately $2,500,000 in 2025.

This program, along with most of the related spending, is expected to be completed at the end of the 2026. In essence, the project will impact our adjusted EBITDA margin by nearly 200 basis points in 2025, but will swing to a margin tailwind as savings from the project start to pay off the investment in 2026 and beyond. There are three key drivers to the lower 2025 revenue outlook. First, we are delaying the rollout of additional increases in advanced wound care volumes to later in the year, which allows time for important processing improvements that are needed to make this a profitable business. This opportunity continues to be very exciting for InfuSystem due to our wide breadth of payer contracts.

However, while there appears to be plenty of volume within our reach offering respectable gross margins, our current billing processes and systems lack the level of productivity needed to make the economics viable. To date, wound care billings on average have been smaller and are more complicated than our other TPP revenues, such as oncology. We don’t think it’s prudent to sacrifice our overall company margins and profitability until we solve this issue. Fortunately, we have the solution. During the second quarter, we bought a small company that provides the opportunity to achieve increased productivity through its improved processing tools.

Not only do they offer increased efficiency, but they also offer automation, connectivity to machine learning, and eliminate multiple processing steps for our teams to continue the trend of becoming a more efficient and scalable company. If it works as we anticipate, it opens a significantly attractive opportunity in the large market, and it provides opportunity to lower the current processing costs of our other TPP businesses. Second, we are taking out the $20.25 revenue we had in the forecast for ChemoMouthpiece until we have better visibility. We’ve received notice from ChemoMouthpiece regarding changes to the previously recommended CPT reimbursement code for their product. This said, as we navigate this change in the moment, we are extremely optimistic as Chemo Mouthpiece has submitted application for new coding that could provide coverage for the product under a patient’s DME benefit.

This would be an exciting one for patients and providers, as in this case, EntySystem would provide the product at no cost to clinics, similar to other products currently provided under our patient services platform. This makes our contribution to the role of this new product even more vital, and we are working closely with the ChemoMouthpiece team through this change. We continue to see great potential and interest in the product and we’ll keep everyone informed as ChemoMouthpiece updates us on the reimbursement landscape. Our investment in this process is minimal and we’ve not made any significant contributions to the program to date, which means there is no capital at risk. Finally, we are working to restructure our biomedical services relationship with GE Healthcare.

The current business does not matter margins expectation, and we are working closely with GE Healthcare to make adjustments in both price and service level to address this issue. This could result in lower revenue. However, that revenue will deliver increased profitability, which has been below acceptable levels to date. Now, I’ll turn it over to Barry for a detailed review of the second quarter financial results. Barry?

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: Thank you, Carrie, and thank you everyone on the call for joining us today. I’m going to focus on the main drivers for the current quarter’s results, and I’ll update you on our current financial position and how it changed during the quarter. Now let me start with our financial results for the period. During the 2025, our net revenue totaled $36,000,000 This was a record and represented a $2,300,000 or 6.8% increase from the prior year second quarter. The improvement was supported by growth in both of our operating segments with the increase in patient services totaling $1,200,000 or 6.5%, slightly edging out growth from device solutions, which increased by $1,000,000 or 8.3%.

Higher net revenue for the Patient Services segment included increased patient treatment volumes in oncology and wound care, offset partially by lower amounts in pain management. Oncology net revenue increased by more than $800,000 or 4.5%, whereas wound care revenue totaling $1,300,000 was up by 117% and was mainly driven by volume increases in negative pressure wound therapy treatments related to the Smith and Nephew partnership. Pain management decreased by approximately $300,000 mainly due to timing of shipments to large customers. The growth in device solutions was equally attributable to higher rental revenues coming from new customers and increased equipment sales. Biomedical services revenue was flat year over year, but included increased on-site project revenue and depot based repair services, which offset a reduction in the number of devices on contract with GE Healthcare.

Gross profit for the 2025 was $19,900,000 which was also a quarterly record and a $3,200,000 or 19% increase over the prior year second quarter. Our gross margin percentage was 55.2%, representing a 5.7% improvement over the prior year second quarter amount of 49.5%. This improvement was mainly driven by better revenue mix favoring higher margin revenue and lower pump disposal expenses. The increase also was the result of a one time $600,000 unfavorable adjustments made in 2024 to correct an immaterial error in our travel accrual. The improved product mix included higher oncology revenues, increased device solutions rental revenues, and higher sales of used equipment.

Selling, general and administrative expenses for the 2025 totaled $16,100,000 and was $1,300,000 or 8.7% higher than the prior year second quarter amount. About half of this increase was attributable to 632,000 in expenses associated with our business application upgrade project. Other increases were related to additional headcount and revenue cycle and other personnel needed to support the higher revenue volume and a higher accrual for short term incentive compensation. Partially offsetting these increases was lower stock compensation costs mainly due to forfeitures from our outgoing CEO. Adjusted EBITDA during the twenty twenty five second quarter was $8,000,000 or a margin of 22.3% of net revenue, which represented an increase of $2,000,000 or 32% and a margin expansion of 4.3%, up from 18% in the prior year second quarter.

It’s worth noting that on a trailing twelve month basis, adjusted EBITDA totaled $29,400,000 representing a margin of 21.2%. This clearly demonstrates that our emphasis on operational efficiencies is translating into measurable performance gains. Now a few points on our financial position and capital reserves. Our operating cash flow during the second quarter totaled $7,000,000 This amount was $4,700,000 higher than the amount for the prior year second quarter. This increase was due to the higher adjusted EBITDA, a smaller increase in our working capital levels, and lower interest expense as compared to the prior year.

Our net capital expenditures were $273,000 during the twenty twenty five second quarter, which was a significant decrease from the prior year amount of $6,700,000 The amount during the prior period was focused on infusion pumps needed to support increased volume in the device solutions rental business, which is now paying off as we can see from the increased gross margin previously mentioned. We continue to anticipate that our overall capital spending requirements will moderate as compared to amounts in prior years as the sources of our future revenue growth will continue to be more weighted towards less capital intensive revenue sources. In fact, a significant amount of our expected growth during the remainder of 2025 comes from noncapital intensive business lines. We continue to be positioned well to fund continued net revenue growth with the growing cash flow from operations backed by significant liquidity reserves available from our revolving line of credit and manageable leverage and debt service requirements. Our net debt decreased by $2,300,000 during the second quarter.

We were able to do this despite purchasing $3,500,000 of our common stock during the quarter and funding the acquisition of Apollo for 1,400,000.0 Our available liquidity continues to be strong and totaled more than $49,000,000 as of 06/30/2025. At that time, our ratio of net debt to adjusted EBITDA was a modest 0.86 times. Our debt consists of borrowings on our revolving line of credit with no term payment requirements. A few weeks ago, we amended our credit agreement, extending the facility for two additional years. The facility now expires in July 2030.

We continue to benefit from outstanding interest rate swap, which fixes our interest rate on $20,000,000 of our outstanding borrowings at below market rate of 3.8% until April 2028. I will now turn the call back over to Carrie.

Carrie LeChant, Chief Executive Officer, InfuSystem: Thanks, Barry. I want to emphasize the strength of our business. Built on nearly four decades of operational excellence, at NP System, one mission guides us, helping patients live longer and healthier lives. We maintain more than 800 national payer contracts covering 96% of The US population and hold key strategic partnerships with leading medical device companies. We help to solve many complex problems that face our partners and healthcare providers in facilitating continuity and quality of care for their patients.

As we reflect performed in the second quarter and how we are planning for the near future, we would like to share what we see as the key drivers necessary to deliver shareholder value. First, we must focus on growing profitable revenue. This may include a willingness to restructure or even exit an underperforming business when necessary. We will delay launching new products until they are proven ready for launch. We will prioritize internal value creation initiatives equally to new revenue opportunities.

Some examples of this include our new ERP, productivity improvement initiatives that we have in place for several of our team, and several cost saving projects we have in progress that are paying off as demonstrated by our growing margins and cash flow. And finally, we will pursue new opportunities and partnerships that complement our core strength and align with a disciplined strategic investment approach. We have phenomenal opportunities at our fingertips and a clear understanding of the value of our capital allocation decisions. We remain focused on areas that offer accelerated growth, a sustainable future, and a quick return on investment that will drive value creation. We are evaluating business opportunities based on their potential contribution to return on invested capital.

This requires us to consider our relevant competitive strengths, upfront requirements for development, capital investment, timing of cash flow, and sustainability. Lastly, our strategic priorities entering the second half of the year are clear. Execute with discipline, deliver profitable growth and drive long term value creation for our shareholders. Operator, we are ready for the Q and A portion of the call.

Conference Operator: We will now begin the question and answer session. The The first question comes from the line of Kyle Broussier, ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Kyle Broussier, Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners: Hi, good morning. Thanks for all the updates and glad to see the margin expectations bumping up here. Maybe I’ll start with Oncology, obviously, been a very nice cash flow on that business. Is mid single digit growth going forward, do you think a reasonable expectation for this business? I know last quarter, there was slightly above that, just given the increased volume.

Just want to get a sense of how we look at that business going forward.

Carrie LeChant, Chief Executive Officer, InfuSystem: I do. I think mid single digits make sense for us. We have been seeing some subtle increases in volumes, which are certainly hopeful, but I think mid single makes sense for us.

Kyle Broussier, Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners: Okay, got it. And on the GE contract, any more color you can provide, know, how large is that contract? I guess it’s part of, you know, the device solution side of the business or, know, what sort of change do you envision? I know you mentioned, Carrie, that you’re going to prioritize margins going forward, but just kind of want to get a sense of the impact on the top line.

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: Yes. It’s Tal’s about a 7 to $8,000,000 business currently on an annual basis, where it’s kind of adjusted out after some devices were taken off contract over the last couple of quarters. With the lower margins and just some of the higher costs that we’ve seen over time, the margins are not where we would like them to be. So we’re working with GE directly to make some changes that hopefully will, you know, help us find a way to create value for them while also bringing some margin that we need for ourselves.

Kyle Broussier, Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners: Okay. That’s helpful. And and then on the acquisition of Apollo, I think you said for 1,400,000.0, that will, of course, help drive more efficient collections. Is that specifically just for the wound care business, or are there economies of scale for the broader platform?

Carrie LeChant, Chief Executive Officer, InfuSystem: Yeah, would say for the broader platform, we will start with wound care specifically just because that’s, as we said, the back end process are a little heavier than oncology, but once that’s stabilized, we’re looking forward to kind of transitioning that over to oncology platform as well. It’s a great system.

Kyle Broussier, Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners: Great, got it. And then I guess just one last up. The ERP system, how is that progressing? And what can we expect in future expenses and kind of the updated time line there? Yes.

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: It’s going very well. We’re working through all the basically the blueprint stage right now. We’ll be in the miller getting data in the system and starting to do a lot of testing in the back half of this year as we continue through the process. In the last quarter, spent $632,000 on the project. The cost will be hovering around $05,000,000 or maybe a little bit higher as we continue.

But we do expect that project to wrap up and go live sometime in the 2026. So that roughly estimated $2,500,000 annual spend will go away after the first quarter with the hope that it will start paying back. So in other words, we’re trying to get with improved systems, productivity and other benefits. So it will not only be a way will not only weigh down our margin, will stop weighing down our margin, will start actually contributing to our margin after that.

Kyle Broussier, Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners: Okay. Sounds great. I appreciate all the updates.

Conference Operator: Thanks, Kyle. The next question comes from Matt Hewitt, Craig Hallum. Please go ahead.

Tala, Analyst Representative, Craig Hallum: Hello. This is Tala calling for Matt Hewitt. Congrats on a great quarter. So with the expanding margins, what levers are you planning to utilize? And how should we think about that going forward?

Thank you.

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: Yes. So we certainly have seen improved margins. If you look at sort of on a trailing 12 basis over the last few quarters, both our gross margin and EBITDA margin have certainly moved in a positive trajectory. This is coming from the improved growth that we’ve had and just internally being efficient on our spending and increasing some productivity. So mix has helped us.

So we bought a bunch of pumps last year for the rental business, and so that’s contributed to the margin sort of mix, if you will. We wouldn’t necessarily predict that we can continue to go continue to improve the margins indiscriminately into the future. But we do think that if you take away the current spend on ERP, we’re well into the low 20s and should be able to continue sustaining that as we continue to grow on the top line into the future.

Tala, Analyst Representative, Craig Hallum: Alright. Alright. Great. And then can you provide color on the ramp up, specifically with the new estimates and the timeline of that chemo mouthpiece? Thank you.

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: Yeah. So so are we talking about chemo mouthpiece, specifically what the outlook is? Yes. Yeah. I think that we’ve taken it completely out of our forecast, and the forecast changes have some other things in it, obviously, as well.

And we’ve not put it back in at any stage, and we won’t until we have better visibility on what we think that the launch date will be and getting codes actually updated so that we’ll be able to sell the product through.

Tala, Analyst Representative, Craig Hallum: Alright. Thank you.

Conference Operator: The next question comes from Jim Sidoti, Sidoti and Co. Please go ahead.

Jim Sidoti, Analyst, Sidoti and Co.: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. So I’m looking at this quarter, it’s the best quarter that you’ve reported since COVID. So clearly, something’s gone right, 3,400,000.0 of income from ops and $7,000,000 of operating cash. Were there any one time things that drove these results?

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: No, I’m sorry.

Carrie LeChant, Chief Executive Officer, InfuSystem: Yeah, I would say no, Jim, nothing specific. I think this is just kind of the accumulation. We’ve been working on some operational improvements on the back end. That’s been over time, and things are starting to turn off certainly from an improvement standpoint. So, no one time.

Barry? Yes.

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: The only thing I would add to that, Jim, is that if you really looked at again, we like to chart every quarter of the trailing 12 results. That’s about the early part of last year, every quarter has improved as such that our EBITDA is growing nicely and the margins associated is growing nicely. So it’s really a it’s culmination of all the things we’ve been doing over the last, say, months.

Jim Sidoti, Analyst, Sidoti and Co.: So do you think high single digit operating margins or low double digit operating margins, do you think that’s sustainable over the next few quarters?

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: Yes, it’s interesting. We always kind of focus on adjusted EBITDA. The reason being there’s some things in the operating margin that are a little odd, like for example, depreciation. When we buy pumps, we depreciate pumps very fast, even though they last a very long time. So you have to be cautious about how that impacts operating margins.

And then the stock comp, when the stock is really strong, we see more expense. And so and that’s noncash. We like to add that back because it doesn’t take away from our actual operating earnings. So it’s a little tougher to predict that. But that said, clearly, the growing EBITDA dollar amount and margin is going to help the operating margin as well.

Jim Sidoti, Analyst, Sidoti and Co.: All right. And it sounds like you still expect that the cost related to ERP and definitely the cost related to the CEO transition, those will all be out after the 2026, right?

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: Yes, that’s correct. So the CEO transition was all expensed in Q1. And this quarter, GRP was $632,000 The first quarter was $466,000 Last year’s third quarter was $245,000 So we have a little bit easier comp for when we go into the third quarter here. But that sort of run rate, the 500 to $600,000 will continue at least through the 2026 when we expect to go live and that we’ll still have some probably growing pains of putting it in place, but that should drop pretty rapidly next year. And again, we expect productivity improvements coming out of it, particularly as we grow.

Jim Sidoti, Analyst, Sidoti and Co.: All right. Well, that’s it for me. Thank you.

Carrie LeChant, Chief Executive Officer, InfuSystem: Thanks, Jim.

Conference Operator: The next question comes from Neil Chatterjee, B. Riley. Please go ahead.

Anderson Schach, Analyst Representative, B. Riley: Good morning. This is Anderson Schach. Thank you for taking our questions and congrats on the quarter. So wound care revenue more than management declined 15%. How should we think about this mix shift toward lower margin wound care and the impact it may have on longer term margins and profitability?

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: Yes. So what I would say is that the pain management isn’t the highest margin in our portfolio, so it’s not as tough a comparison to trade in that fashion. And yet, what Carrie you heard Carrie say is that our wound care has really nice, decent gross margins. We just give it back when we process claims. So when we’re solving that, which we think we will, I think that you’ll see a business that is accretive to our cash flow margins.

Anderson Schach, Analyst Representative, B. Riley: Okay, got it. And then Device Solutions grew 8% with some really impressive year over year margin expansion. Is this 42 margin sustainable going forward? And what is driving the outperformance here versus the patient services?

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: Yes, it’s really a mix. We grew the rentals last year. And so that’s been that’s always very good because the biggest part of the cost for rental is the depreciation, which for EBITDA we’re adding back, obviously. So I think that it is again, it will always kind of bounce around a little bit, and we’re still as we mentioned, on a few contracts to make them better. So I think that it’s in a decent position to hold its own, but we’ll go up and down based on mix.

So we sell a bunch of new pumps. We lower our margins because we get lower margin on those. We sell a bunch of used pumps off our fleet. Depending where depreciation was on those pumps, could see it go up. So that’s kind of the orders in which it operates.

Anderson Schach, Analyst Representative, B. Riley: Okay. Got it. And then is there any timing you can share on when you expect to hear back on resolving the reimbursement challenges for chemo mouthpiece?

Carrie LeChant, Chief Executive Officer, InfuSystem: Yes, so we should hear something by the end of the year. So chemo mouthpiece team, they’ve submitted their applications. We should be hearing back probably Q3, maybe into early Q4 of this year. And then really, coding is established, the reimbursement rates actually would be July. So, coding comes first and then rate establishment is for next year.

But we should know by the end of the year, which is exciting. It’s actually a really great change.

Anderson Schach, Analyst Representative, B. Riley: Okay, great. Thank you for taking our questions.

Barry Steele, Chief Financial Officer, InfuSystem: Yeah. Thanks.

Conference Operator: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Carrie Lee Chan, CEO for any closing remarks.

Carrie LeChant, Chief Executive Officer, InfuSystem: Thank you, Shari. I want to thank everyone for participating on today’s call, and we look forward to our third quarter call when we will update you on results and progress.

Conference Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, the conference is now over. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.

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