Earnings call transcript: Pason Systems Q2 2025 results show resilience amid industry slowdown

Pason Systems Inc. reported its financial results for the second quarter of 2025, revealing a slight miss on earnings expectations but demonstrating resilience in a challenging market environment. The company reported earnings per share (EPS) of $0.16, slightly below the forecasted $0.1667, reflecting a 4.02% surprise. Revenue reached $96.4 million, narrowly missing the $97 million forecast, yet marking a 1% increase from the same quarter last year. According to InvestingPro data, the company maintains strong financial health with more cash than debt on its balance sheet, and liquid assets exceeding short-term obligations - two key indicators of financial stability. In the wake of these results, Pason Systems’ stock saw a decrease of 1.45%, closing at $11.59, down from the previous close of $11.76.

Key Takeaways

• Pason Systems reported a 1% increase in revenue year-over-year, reaching $96.4 million.
• EPS came in at $0.16, slightly below analyst expectations.
• The company’s stock price decreased by 1.45% following the earnings announcement.
• Pason Systems continues to invest in technology and innovation, focusing on data analytics and AI.
• The company revised its 2025 capital expenditure guidance downward to $55-60 million.

Company Performance

Pason Systems demonstrated resilience in Q2 2025, achieving a modest revenue increase despite a challenging market environment. The company outperformed industry trends, particularly in the drilling and completions segments, where it maintained strong customer retention and acquired new clients. However, the North American drilling segment faced a slight revenue decline of 2%, reflecting broader industry challenges.

Financial Highlights

• Revenue: $96.4 million, a 1% increase compared to Q2 2024.
• Earnings per share: $0.16, up from $0.14 in the previous year.
• Adjusted EBITDA: $31.6 million, representing 32.7% of revenue.
• Net Income: $12.6 million, up from $10.9 million in Q2 2024.
• Free Cash Flow: $5.3 million.

Earnings vs. Forecast

Pason Systems’ Q2 2025 results showed a slight miss on both EPS and revenue forecasts. The EPS of $0.16 was below the expected $0.1667, while revenue of $96.4 million missed the $97 million forecast. Despite these misses, the year-over-year revenue growth indicates underlying strength in the company’s operations.

Market Reaction

Following the earnings announcement, Pason Systems’ stock price fell by 1.45%, closing at $11.59. This decline reflects investor sentiment regarding the earnings miss and the broader market slowdown. With a beta of 1.5, the stock shows moderate market sensitivity, though InvestingPro data indicates it generally trades with low price volatility. The stock’s total return over the past year stands at 22.04%, demonstrating strong performance despite market fluctuations.

Outlook & Guidance

Pason Systems revised its 2025 capital expenditure guidance downward to $55-60 million, from an initial $65 million. The company anticipates continued outperformance in its drilling and completions segments, with expected margin expansion in the completions and solar segments. The quarterly dividend of $0.13 per share will be maintained.

Executive Commentary

John Faber, President and CEO, expressed confidence in the company’s ability to outpace industry activity, citing the increasing complexity in drilling and completions operations. Faber emphasized the company’s focus on return on invested capital as a key driver of its capital allocation priorities.

Risks and Challenges

• Industry Slowdown: The 8% overall market slowing poses a risk to revenue growth.
• North American Drilling Decline: A 5% decline in land drilling activity could impact future performance.
• Customer Operational Shifts: International segment faces challenges due to customer operational changes.
• Capital Allocation: Revised capital expenditure guidance suggests potential challenges in funding growth initiatives.
• Market Volatility: Fluctuations in oil prices and rig counts could affect future earnings.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts inquired about the stability of completions job counts and the potential for increased gas activity to boost customer activity. Executives highlighted the transition in Argentina from conventional to unconventional drilling and the significant market expansion potential for IWS technology.

Full transcript - Pason Systems Inc. (PSI) Q2 2025:

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Good morning. My name is Amy, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Pason Systems Inc. Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.

After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Thank you. Celine Boston, Chief Financial Officer, you may begin your conference.

Celine Boston, Chief Financial Officer, Pason Systems Inc.: Thank you. Good morning, and thank you for attending PayFund’s twenty twenty five second quarter conference call. I’m joined on today’s call by John Faber, our President and CEO. I’ll start today’s call with an overview of our financial performance in the second quarter. John will then provide a brief perspective on the outlook for the industry and for Pason, and we will then take questions.

I’m pleased to report on Pason’s second quarter twenty twenty five results, which continue to demonstrate the resilience in our business through challenging industry conditions. Pason generated consolidated revenue of $96,400,000 in the 2025, a 1% increase from the $95,900,000 generated in the 2024, despite more challenging industry conditions. With this revenue, Pason generated $31,600,000 in adjusted EBITDA or 32.7% of revenue, which compares to $33,100,000 or 34.6% of revenue generated at 2024. From a segment performance perspective, Canadian drilling activity fell throughout the second quarter as is seasonally expected through spring breakup, which coupled with reductions in U. S.

Drilling activity resulted in a 5% decline in North American industry drilling year over year. In this challenging environment, PayFrom continues to generate growth in revenue per industry day, and the metric grew 3% year over year. As a reminder to listeners, revenue per industry day is a representation of the company’s market share position, pricing and product adoption across North America and will also be impacted by changes in the U. S. Dollar compared to the Canadian dollar, which moved in an unfavorable way during the second quarter with a weakening U.

S. Dollar. Revenue in the North American drilling segment only fell by 2% year over year, outpacing the 5% decline seen in industry activity. The segment’s operating expenses remained mostly fixed in nature and fell by 6% year over year as the company focuses on disciplined cost management in the context of more challenging industry conditions. Resulting segment gross profit of $34,000,000 was flat to the level generated in the same quarter in 2024, despite the 2% decline in revenue and the 5% reduction in industry activity.

Continuing from the first quarter of this year, our International Drilling segment faced headwinds in the second quarter, with a larger customer in Argentina reducing activity levels through a pending shift in operational focus away from conventional wells towards more unconventional drilling. The segment generated $13,600,000 in quarterly revenue and $6,400,000 in segment gross profit in the second quarter. Operating expenses for the segment are mostly fixed and came down by 5% year over year as the segment remains focused on disciplined management of operating costs during a period of lower activity levels. In our Completion segment, IWS has 33 active jobs, up from 32 in the first quarter and 29 in the 2024, while industry activity levels fell in both of those comparative periods. In that time, the Completion segment maintained revenue per IWS Day at relatively flat levels, generating $5,069 per day in the second quarter.

Revenue per IWS Day will fluctuate depending on the mix of technology adopted amongst existing customers and further will be impacted by foreign exchange fluctuations between The U. S. And Canadian dollar, which when comparing sequential results for the Completion segment had a negative effect. Reported revenue for this segment was $15,300,000 up from $13,700,000 in the 2024, which represents a 12% increase against industry activity that fell by 25% during that same time. Gross profit for the segment of $1,200,000 represents operating expense investments made for the segment’s current stage of growth, along with $6,200,000 in depreciation and amortization expense associated with the property and equipment and intangible assets acquired on and since 01/01/2024.

Our solar and energy storage segment generated $5,000,000 in quarterly revenue, an increase of 58% from the 2024 comparative period, with the timing on deliveries of control system sales driving the difference year over year. As we’ve noted in previous calls, the segment’s revenue will continue to fluctuate with timing of these deliveries going forward. Sequentially, Pason’s results were mostly impacted by the seasonal decline in Canadian drilling activity, along with further reductions in U. S. Drilling activity and a weaker U.

S. Dollar in the second quarter, all of which impacted revenue levels over the company’s mostly fixed cost base. Revenue of $96,400,000 in the second quarter compares to revenue of $113,200,000 in the first quarter. Similarly, adjusted EBITDA was $31,600,000 in the second quarter compared to $45,200,000 in the first quarter. Net income attributable to Pason for the 2025 was 12,600,000 or $0.16 per share, up from $10,900,000 and $0.14 per share in the 2024, reflecting lower levels of adjusted EBITDA that were more than offset by lower stock based compensation expense.

We continue to maintain a prudent balance sheet ending the quarter with total cash, including short term investments of $69,300,000 and no interest bearing debt. In the 2025, net capital expenditures were $15,000,000 which includes investments in building out our valve management and automation technology offering within completions, and the ongoing investments in our drilling related technology platform. Free cash flow in the 2025 was $5,300,000 compared to $8,000,000 in the 2024, reflecting the more challenging industry conditions year over year. With this free cash flow and our cash balance, we returned $20,200,000 to shareholders in the second quarter, dollars 10,200,000.0 through our quarterly dividend and $10,000,000 through our share repurchase program. In summary, we remain very well positioned in the face of challenging recognition.

I will now turn the call over

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: to John for his comments on our outlook. Thank you, Celine. Our second quarter financial and operating results demonstrated the continued strength of Bason’s strong competitive position, even in challenging industry conditions. Revenue from our North American drilling segment decreased by 2% year over year despite a 5% decrease North American land drilling activity over the same period. Revenue per industry day grew 3% year over year to $10.26 dollars per day in the quarter.

In our international drilling segment, the operational shift of a large customer in Argentina away from conventional assets resulted in an 11% year over year decrease in revenue. It is worth noting that the revenue associated with the conventional drilling activity in Argentina had a low margin profile. And as the customer increases its unconventional drilling activity, we anticipate greater adoption of higher value products and a more attractive margin profile. Our Completion segment again posted significant outperformance in comparison to underlying industry activity. Revenue from our Completion segment grew 12% from the 2024, despite a 25% decrease in the reported number of active frac spreads in The United States.

Our average number of IWS active jobs increased by 14% year over year, while revenue per IWS day held strong at $5,069 per day. As we have noted in previous calls, as we continue to grow our customer base in the completion segment, we expect that revenue per IWS Day will fluctuate based on customer mix. In our solar and energy storage segment, energy tool based revenue increased 50% year over year from 2024 levels to $5,000,000 in the second quarter on the strength of increased control system project deliveries. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter totaled $31,600,000 was down 5% from twenty twenty four levels, while an adjusted EBITDA margin of 32.7% was lower than the prior year owing to higher revenue contribution from the completions and solar and energy storage segment, where segment margins are lower given their current stage of development. We expect margins in these segments to expand over time as revenues increase.

Geopolitical factors continue to dominate the headlines with ongoing trade negotiations and changing tariff policies, unwinding the OPEC plus production cuts and concerns about economic growth creating significant uncertainty in economic outlooks. As a result, we have seen customers make adjustments to their capital programs in response to the uncertainty, despite the fact that WTI oil prices have held relatively steady in the mid-sixty dollars per barrel range. A significant portion of current activity is directed at maintaining current production levels rather than growth. And we continue to believe that maintenance capital is among the highest capital allocation priorities of most producers. The outlook for natural gas is more favorable than it has been for many years, driven by LNG project development and increased power demand.

Since the start of 2025, the gas directed U. S. Land rig count has increased by 22% despite the overall market slowing by 8%. We expect Pason to continue to outpace industry activity as both our drilling and completions businesses benefit from increasing complexity in drilling and completions operations. As customers continue to pursue automation and analytics efforts including leveraging artificial intelligence applications and the establishment of real time operating centers, access to consistent, reliable, high quality data is increasingly important for both drilling and completions operations.

Pason’s experience over more than four decades in serving the data needs of the drilling market provides us with the ability to make meaningful advancements in helping customers access data across the entire well construction process. The gains that we have made increasing North American revenue per industry day in our drilling segment and in expanding our customer base while maintaining strong revenue for IDF, IWS Day in our completions business should translate into continued outperformance against industry conditions. Our capital allocation priorities are driven by a focus on return on invested capital. Our highest expected return on capital continue to come from the organic investments we are making to continue the growth of our Completions segment, coupled with the ongoing rollout of the Mud Analyzer in our drilling related business. With the slowdown of industry activity, we anticipate our 2025 capital program will be lower than the $65,000,000 originally planned, and we now expect our full year capital expenditures to total between $55,000,000 and $60,000,000 for the year.

We evaluate our capital program with a focus on increasing revenue, generating free cash flow and creating value for shareholders over time rather than simply in response to prevailing near term industry conditions. We will continue to pursue shareholder returns over time through our regular quarterly dividend and share repurchases. This combination of shareholder returns provides disciplined return to shareholders over time, while retaining flexibility to adjust our capital allocation during times of changes in industry conditions. We are maintaining our quarterly dividend at $0.13 per share and we are deploying additional capital beyond the requirements of organic investments and regular dividends to share repurchases. Our balance sheet remains strong.

At June 30, we had $69,300,000 in total cash, including short term investments and positive working capital of $104,800,000 And we would now be happy to take any questions.

Conference Operator: Thank you. And gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question today will come from Keith McKee, RBC Capital Markets. Go ahead.

Keith McKee, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: Hi, good morning, John and Celine. Good morning. I just wanted to start out on completions. Job count looks like it was up slightly sequentially, while The U. S.

Industry frac count was down and continuing to go down further in Q3. Can you just talk about the trajectory of your where you’d expect your job count to go? The other thing that we hear more is a bit of a divergence in the outlook for oil directed drilling and completion activity versus gas directed drilling and completion activity? Do you expect that dynamic to help bolster the overall job count as we go through the second half of the year? Just any color on those items that you can provide would be helpful.

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: Yes, sure, Keith. I think it’s important when you think about job count to maybe separate and how we think about existing customers and new customers. On the existing customer side, we continue to have really strong position with our customers, though many of them have slowed their activity over time. And so our ability to hold and grow job count has largely come from adding new customers to more than offset existing customers slowing their activity. So to the extent that we continue to add new customers, we think that will continue to be additive to job count.

We don’t know that we’ll see much more in terms of slowdown from some of the existing customers. We’ve made reference over the last year, I think to the fact that some of our larger customers historically were a little bit more gas focused and they would have slowed their activity down quite a bit a year or eighteen months ago. And so to answer the second question there, Keith, as gas activity comes back, we would expect that to help on the side of growth from existing customers to bringing activity back to their programs.

Keith McKee, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: Got it. And can you translate that into how you’d expect your job count to trend over the second half of the year versus maybe the industry type of frac count or markers there?

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: Well, think when you just think about the commercial requirements to secure a new customer and go through the process of getting set up for the first job, it probably becomes harder and harder over time to significantly outpace what the underlying industry does. We think we will continue to outpace the industry, but the significant outperformance does become more challenging if you’re doing it with additions of one or two jobs with new customers. So it’ll really be a question of how much some of those existing customers layer on more activity in addition to the adding new customers.

Keith McKee, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: Got it and just turning to Argentina, can you talk a little bit more about the dynamic of customer shifting from conventional to unconventional? How can you be so confident that unconventional activity will come to Pason? Are these the same rigs, they’re just moving areas? Or are these new rigs that you think you’ll also get a portion of? Maybe just a little bit more color on how you see that dynamic playing out as well as the trajectory for Argentina over the next two to three quarters to the extent you can?

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: Yes, your question around the confidence of getting unconventional activity really comes down to the question of who the customer is in the future on those two different asset bases. So when we talk about transitioning the activity, what we’re seeing is the large customers selling assets with conventional drilling and those assets have much lower revenue opportunities. Candidly Keith, they’re probably not assets that we’re interested in working on as the types of revenue they generated if it’s not part of a portfolio of assets for a larger company that has also the unconventional side. So in the short term, what that means is that as those assets are sold off, that is revenue that we are happy to forego. And it also means that we continue to have some operating costs to service the remaining assets while the portfolio is being sold.

Over time, because the large customer we have all of their work, we would anticipate that we will continue to have the lion’s share of the work, we’re all in the work as they continue to do things on the unconventional side and that does draw a different set of the product suite that is higher valued and a much better margin profile.

Aaron MacNeil, Analyst, TD Cowen: Understood. Do you have a

Keith McKee, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: sense of timing of when some of that unconventional drilling might ramp up?

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: We’re starting to see it ramping up now, but it will take time for it to match the same type of revenue level that you would see from the just the revenue dollars associated with a high volume of low revenue rigs, right. So it might actually take eighteen, twenty four months or more for the overall revenue to kind of come back to what you would maybe see in Argentina, but certainly wouldn’t take that measure of time for the margin when you start to talk about the types of opportunities you have in that space.

Keith McKee, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: Understood. Appreciate the comments. Thanks very much.

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: Thank you.

Conference Operator: Our next question today comes from Aaron MacNeil, TD Cowen. On

Aaron MacNeil, Analyst, TD Cowen: IWS, just building on Keith’s question, can you give us a sense of your job capacity today based on equipment that’s ready for service? And what type of supply additions are being contemplated in the current capital program? And then just from a broader market perspective, how do you think about the IWS technology as well as competing technologies in terms of how much they’ve saturated that sort of multi frac market?

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: Sure. Lot of it there, it’s a little tricky to give you an estimate of job count capacity only because the profile of jobs can be dramatically different in terms of the types and quantity of different pieces of equipment required. So I think all I could really say is that we are quite comfortable that the capital program that we’re now forecasting for 2025, we feel quite comfortable in our ability to continue to outpace what the underlying industry does. But it is going to require capital to match because more jobs are taking more equipment over time, not less. And so that’s probably all I can really directionally say in the question of capacity.

The second part of the question, have to trigger my memory where you’re going, Yaron.

Aaron MacNeil, Analyst, TD Cowen: Yeah, just thinking about market saturation like for IWS as well as competing technologies.

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: Yeah, sure. I think our view is there’s still lots of run room for where the overall opportunity exists for automation in the completion space. So I think for IWS and other folks competing in the market, there’s going to be the biggest tailwind for all of us is going to be the continued adoption automation technologies. I think one of the things we’ve felt has been an advantage we’ve had in the drilling space for a lot of years, which translates as well in the completion side is the fact that we can work with a variety of different providers. And so when customers choose to use a variety of providers, either on the drilling side, drillers or pressure control providers on the completion side, those are always opportunities for us.

So we think we’ll continue to have lots of opportunity, but there’s a tailwind for all participants in that industry around greater adoption of technology, in particular automation.

Aaron MacNeil, Analyst, TD Cowen: Got you. Maybe I’ll just reframe the first question. I didn’t want to get too specific, but like are you operating at capacity today? Or do you have underutilized capacity? And like what, I guess, capacity additions are you adding, I guess, in any way you’d want to frame it in terms of like percentage of fleet growth or asset growth or I don’t know.

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: Yes, again, I’m not trying to avoid the question, it’s just a little bit tricky to address. I think it’s fair say we’re probably operating at capacity for more complex types of jobs and with some additional capacity available or underutilized on things that are simpler types of jobs, like it’s a different profile of equipment. So it will be nothing to make sure the types of jobs you’re looking at in terms of whether there’s capital required or not.

Aaron MacNeil, Analyst, TD Cowen: Got you, okay. And then maybe a similar sort of line of questioning on the MUD analyzer, just haven’t had an update in a while. Are you thinking about market demand, potential market saturation levels and your ability to price the product?

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: So I think similar to what we would have said last quarter, the challenges on the demand analyzer for kind of more rapid scaling of the rollout really are sort of twofold. There are some technical things that we’re working through to deal with some technical challenges around things like lost circulation materials and people’s operating processes. And then there is the question for folks who have not had this data available historically, how to use that data. And so there are some investments we are making on the operational side to help customers understand how they might use the data to drive their drilling programs.

Aaron MacNeil, Analyst, TD Cowen: Fair enough. Happy to turn it back.

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: Thanks,

Conference Operator: Our next question today comes from Sean Mitchell from Daniel Energy Partners. Please go ahead.

Sean Mitchell, Analyst, Daniel Energy Partners: Good morning, guys. John, thanks for taking the question. Maybe in IWS, I know that revenue per day can vary depending on mix of technology adapted by your customers. But is there a big difference between oil versus gas completions in terms of technology adoption by your customers?

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: We don’t really see a difference oil versus gas on the technology that we would be applying on the completion side. There are probably more differences if I want to show on the drilling side where there are certain products that become more applicable as you’re drilling at deeper depths which you typically are on the gas side, probably less of a question on the types of completions products we have where you can see a difference.

Sean Mitchell, Analyst, Daniel Energy Partners: Got it. Okay. That’s it. Thank you.

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: Thanks,

Conference Operator: are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to John. Please continue.

John Faber, President and CEO, Pason Systems Inc.: Great. Thank you very much, Amy. And thank you all those who have joined the call this morning. We do understand that our calls sometimes compete with other calls. So thanks for taking time to join ours.

We certainly appreciate your interest. If you do have follow-up questions or if you’re picking up a recording or a transcript later and you have questions, certainly do reach out to Celine or myself at any point and we’d be happy to follow-up. Have a terrific day and we will look forward to talking again following our third quarter results.

Conference Operator: This concludes the conference. Thank you everyone. You may now disconnect.

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