Check Point at Goldman Sachs Conference: Cybersecurity Strategies Unveiled

On Monday, 08 September 2025, Check Point Software Technologies Ltd (NASDAQ:CHKP) presented at the Goldman Sachs Communicopia + Technology Conference 2025. The company outlined its strategic approach, balancing growth with responsible investment, while emphasizing its commitment to cybersecurity innovation. Despite some challenges, such as currency impacts, Check Point remains optimistic about meeting its financial guidance.

Key Takeaways

• Check Point is investing heavily in AI and SASE, focusing on threat prevention and product scalability.
• The company expects margin improvements by year-end, despite FX-related expenses.
• Growth in the APAC region is robust, driven by new products and partnerships.
• Check Point aims to enhance its SASE product to support over 100,000 users.
• A potential Analyst Day next year will provide further insights into the company’s strategy.

Financial Results

• Billings faced a shortfall due to an exogenous Liberation Day, shifting $18 million to Q3.
• Margins are anticipated to improve towards year-end, aided by seasonal factors.
• The weakening dollar against the shekel could add $60 million in expenses next year, impacting margins by 1-2%.
• Check Point is committed to sustainable double-digit growth, maintaining a margin floor of 40%.

Operational Updates

• Nadav’s focus on enterprise sales and executive relationships has strengthened internal dynamics.
• Enhanced channel partnerships through education and demand generation programs.
• A new CMO has been appointed to further drive demand generation.
• APAC region saw 15% growth, fueled by SASE and new product offerings.

Product Development and Innovation

• Significant AI investment, with plans to hire 500 people for AI initiatives.
• Focus on maturing the SASE product, currently used by tens of thousands of users.
• Differentiation in SASE is driven by superior efficacy, ease of use, and faster speeds.
• A new SASE product is set to launch in Q4.

Future Outlook

• Confidence in achieving the higher end of the year’s guidance, barring unforeseen events.
• Continued investment in AI and SASE to drive growth and competitive advantage.
• Anticipated strength in firewall refresh next year due to increased awareness of vulnerabilities.
• Significant greenfield opportunity in SASE, with most existing customers lacking a solution.

Q&A Highlights

• SASE scalability focuses on expanding both infrastructure and application capabilities.
• AI monetization is in early stages, with a focus on enhancing security budgets.
• Check Point prioritizes customer safety and efficacy over competitive acquisitions.

In conclusion, for a deeper understanding of Check Point’s strategic initiatives, readers are encouraged to refer to the full transcript below.

Full transcript - Goldman Sachs Communicopia + Technology Conference 2025:

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Joining us. We really appreciate you being here with us. I’m Gabriela Borges. My colleague Max Camprill on stage with me, we cover security here at Goldman. Delighted to have on stage with us, Kip Meitser.

Kip Meitser: I gotta do the safe harbor to remember that.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Please. Say, Pablo. Let’s go.

Kip Meitser: So, folks, could you close that door, please? So, folks, obviously, with any presentation, there can be forward looking statements. And with any forward looking statements, there are lots of risks and uncertainties. If you would like to have some good bedtime reading material, just check out our latest 20 f for a comprehensive view of all those risks and uncertainties. And as with all forward looking statements, we have no duty to update except for where required by law.

Over to you, Gabriela.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: So I think the place to start here is at the top of the house with Nadav.

Kip Meitser: Yes.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Because this time last year and actually consistently over the last year, there’s been so much excitement and energy at Check Point around what the what Nadav can do with his focus on enterprise selling and executive selling in particular. Mhmm. So maybe I’ll start broadly. How’s it going?

Kip Meitser: Well, I think it’s been going well this year so far. I think Nadav is is made an impression out externally and internally, and I think you’re seeing the fruits of that. I think the progress we’ve made so far, you know, you have a a little shortfall in billings that everybody was affected by that exogenous Liberation Day. But, hey, I I think we’ve been very clear that all 18,000,000 shifted to the third quarter, and we’re pretty confident in in what’s to come from the the second half of the year. We talked about a very strong pipe and such.

But as far as what he’s been doing inside the company, level set the management, now he has everybody reporting directly to him. We’ve got the whole go to market team to where they’re interacting. So it’s it’s not a pyramid. It’s very flat. And he’s very aware of everything that’s going on.

So it’s not micromanaged, but, you know, give me the information. Right? So it’s not playing telephone. And I think that’s, it’s being echoed by what you hear from the channel, what you hear from customers, what you hear internally from employees. It’s an empowerment that’s taking place inside the company.

More of a a an ask for forgiveness, not for permission type of structure, and I I think it takes a while for that to make its way through, but it’s definitely having its effect.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: One of the things I know Nadav is particularly good at is spending time at c level with c level executives with board of directors folks and talking about strategy. So leveling up Check Point’s relationship as more of a strategic security partnership. How do you track and measure that? And I’d love to hear how how how is Nadav spending time on the road with that cohort of executives?

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: Well, I I think,

Kip Meitser: number one, he’s meeting with as many CSOs and executive team members that he can from customers and potential customers. And and that’s to get a better understanding of what their expectations are and also allows him to communicate, you know, where we’re going. I think the biggest difference where he’s where he’s made the immediate effect is on the channel. The channel the the way we’ve embraced the channel and the way they’ve embraced us back, and, you know, it’s never perfect, but I think it’s a a far cry from where it used to be, and it’s it’s headed in a direction that’s gonna be even better. With the effects that our competitors by disintermediating the channel, it just it makes our job that much easier and his job that much easier.

And I think it it’s reflected in what we’re seeing in the pipeline and beyond. We think those relationships will continue to nurture and expand over time.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: I’d love to hear more specifics on this progress with the channel. Yeah. Are you tracking? Is it is it simply paying more for commissions tied to new business? Maybe be a little more granular here.

Kip Meitser: I I think if you look at it, you know, the things we’ve done around education, certification, things like that. But we’ve made well, we were traditionally very difficult with the channel. All that has been erased. And think when you look at the aggressiveness, the the demand generation, all of the investments were made there and that we’ll continue to make. We just have a new c f CMO that started a couple days ago.

So, hopefully, we’re going to, you know, get a little more momentum in that area, especially on the demand generation. But I think, overall, it’s programs to displace competitors. I think those are very effective, especially when you start looking from a total cost of ownership, the efficacy of the solution we deliver, all the key points that people really need to focus on. I mean, things like, if you look at the Microsoft SharePoint server on prem hack that have, you know, you encountered, what was it, three weeks ago, we were the only only product that natively protected. So if you’re an organization that had Checkpoint, you didn’t have to worry.

The other guys, you know, and you have things like SalesLoft that underscore the difference between efficacy and a little bit of sloppiness. So I I think these are the things that will drive us further and further and further.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: So hand in hand with the investment discussion comes the discussion on margins.

Kip Meitser: Probably, yeah, your favorite.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: You have I

Kip Meitser: think that’s why you downgraded me if I recall right.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: So it’s really interesting because we had a view that you needed to invest more to grow. And then last quarter, Nadav said that he was willing to trade off a few points of margin for growth. So maybe reconcile these these two comments for us. We’ve thought about 40% of

Kip Meitser: Let let’s let’s let’s start here. So margin should go up towards the end of the year. It’s a seasonal thing. It’s our larger quarters, etcetera. However, next year, because of FX, there’s about 60,000,000 added because of the weakening dollar against the shekel and other currencies.

So that’ll impact one to 2% depending on where revenue is. As far as the trading margin for growth, it’s it goes back to what, you know, Nadav said at our analyst track. Everything we do is responsible and is it’s with the goal of growing faster. And so we see a path to that double digits, to that sustainable double digits. And so as we go along that, obviously, there’s gonna be investment that’s made, but it’s not gonna be reckless.

It’s not like you’re gonna end up at 30% tomorrow. It’s it’s investment that will be, you know, respectful and sustainable. And so when you look at that, obviously, it’s not something we’re ready to talk about today. We’re just in the middle of the AOP, but you can guarantee we’ll be talking about it at fourth quarter earnings and at any analyst day that we might have. Nonetheless, I I hear mostly from investors that, yeah, please invest.

We wanna see you at double digits. We wanna see you beyond that. Right? And so the nice thing about investing is, you know, revenue accelerates. It can drag margin up.

Right? Or you can continue to keep it at that level. But that’s the great thing about growth, and, hopefully, we’ll grow faster this year than we did last year. And, hopefully, next year, we’ll do the same.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: So I I agree. It’s hard to think of a scenario where we’re talking about 30% margins, but tell us about this 40% scenario. Meaning, I’ve historically thought about 40% as being the floor. What are the scenarios where that’s not the case?

Kip Meitser: Or what’s the way it makes up for impact from FX. So if you wanna keep, you know, constant currency, you know, you throw out the one to two, then you end up at 40 with the one to two. Right? That’s 60%.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Yep.

Kip Meitser: So if you if you wanna keep that in mind, you know, because that can always be a benefit as as things turn. Right?

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Yeah.

Kip Meitser: They don’t generally, you know, traditionally go just one way for a long period of time. I think the last time they were there, they were there for about eighteen months, and then they reverted. That being said, you can’t predict, effects, so we’ll just have to wait and see. But nonetheless, look at it as constant currency and then, you know, take whatever investment we take from there. Does that mean you could go lower?

Yes. But it also depends on where revenue is. And that’s why this that’s why it’s kinda like a moot conversation. Right? Because where we come out in the beginning of the year with what we give direction for the year, that’s where it’s all gonna be dependent.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Yeah. And you already talked about investment going into the channel. Are there a couple of other areas that we should think about as prioritization, maybe from a product standpoint as well?

Kip Meitser: Well, definitely, from an AI perspective, we’ve you know, we had a huge hiring, 500 people that we are looking to add through, some programs that we had that started at the beginning of the year based around AI. A lot of that headcount was also directed towards SASE. So a lot of the feature parity that we’ll deliver in the fourth quarter already have delivered more or less, has been a result of that doubling down on the headcount and and driving the maturity of the SASE product. We’re still ways to go on the scale. We’re still in the tens of thousands.

We wanna get up to, you know, the higher levels, you know, say a 100,000 beyond. But right now, most of your enterprises that you would address probably don’t even have as many people as we can address today. But we’re having a great deal of success. I think we said it grew. It doubled year over year so far, if I recall right.

I think Roy said that on another call. But we’re going the right direction, and, you know, it’s gonna be a a driver for growth next year along with Workspace.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: I’ll ask one more here before turning it over to Max. AI is a very broad categorized issue. Can you give us any more specifics on what types of AI hiring you’re doing?

Kip Meitser: So one way to think about it is we have our AI innovation centers that’s now being led by our CTO, Jonathan Zanger. And there’s a couple little interviews with him out there on Wall Street Journal and such, and he kind of outlines everything. Whatever you think about AI today, it isn’t gonna be the same in five years. And so Uh-huh. Yeah.

Five months, five days maybe. And so I would say that when you look across the board, obviously, we already have our copilot, and we continue to improve it as part of our our platform. I think of this as the new command line interface. I mean, you’re not using a WYSIWYG anymore. Right?

You’re you’re actually using a prompt to get everything done. So I think it’s very effective, very efficient, and, you know, as we see more adoption of it, that’ll be great. But we already have mean, a testament to the AI utilization that we have is our efficacy. Right? I mean, we have over 60 plus AI engines that are part of ThreatCloud, and you don’t have that efficacy that we have, the the prevention, the prediction, all of that, without that AI.

And so, that, I think, first and foremost, is the the biggest part that we have today. What comes tomorrow? It’s gonna come in many different forms. Right? There’s gonna be stuff around run time, around agentic attacks, you name it.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: Kip, you mentioned the slipped deals in the second quarter, but also that you have high confidence reaching the time max. Sorry?

Kip Meitser: Say say that say the beginning one more time. Did The slipped deals

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: in the second quarter? Yes.

Kip Meitser: You mentioned those, but also that you have high confidence slipped in German? Yeah. Yes.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: So but you have high confidence in in reaching the

Kip Meitser: upper end.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: We already signed the guide.

Kip Meitser: We already signed the 18,000,000 in the third quarter. So are you talking the guide for the year or the guide?

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: For the full year. For the

Kip Meitser: full year, look, we have a strong pipe. You know, we we’ve given our guidance, but, you know, Roy or you know, we’ve we’ve expressed quite a bit that we believe we can, you know, finish out barring any exogenous stuff, right, that we should be able to finish at the at the higher end. And I think a lot of people were wondering why we didn’t narrow guidance, I think, after the second quarter. And, you know, it’s not something we normally do. We usually wait till the third quarter.

But, yeah, we’ll see. Any other color on the macro environment? Do you generally see things improving, stable? I mean, look, we haven’t seen anything deteriorate by any means. And in fact, I would maybe argue there’s signs that it’s gone the other way.

The linearity of this quarter, on the pipeline and, you know, closing deals.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Q or ’2 q?

Kip Meitser: On this quarter, March. You know, the first two months of the quarter, normally, it’s it’s much less, and that’s that’s excluding the 18,000,000. So better linearity. Again, you still have to close the quarter. Right?

And, you know, you still have most of the quarter happening. You know, 50% of the quarter is still gonna happen in the third month of the quarter, and then a lot in the last week, the last day. But we we have pretty high confidence. And from a macro standpoint, we haven’t seen anything yet. But again, last quarter, you know, I I I just throw that caution out there.

I don’t expect anything because we’ve already had our liberation day already, but, you know, there there could always be some other exogenous shock. But it doesn’t look like there will be one. And then for the second half of the year, I would just say, you know, we don’t give guidance, you know, in in this period on the rest of the year, but we’ve continually said that the pipe for the second half of the year is very strong.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: And new customer adds is also a key focus. What’s working with new logos?

Kip Meitser: And any nuance you can add on what’s happening in the competitive environment? Well, I think I think first, you know, remember how we determine a new logo. Right? A new logo is somebody that doesn’t have an invoice for three years and it’s an actual new logo. And when you have as many customers as we do, new logos are a little harder to come from.

But if you count new logos as a new business unit or anything you run into, like some of our competitors do, I’m sure you’d you know, I’m sure we could have those kind of numbers too. But we have been having success with new logos, and I think a lot of it goes to the fact that, you know, we have the highest efficacy in the market and, you know, security matters. And I think our customers and people that encounter us in the process realize that, you know, we’re their biggest advocate to keep them safe. You know, we’re not just trying to, you know, extend the contract after you get rid of another vendor and shove a bunch of money in our pocket. We’re actually trying to make you safe and and, you know, get re reimbursed for it at the same time.

So it’s it’s definitely we look at our customers as a partnership.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: We already talked about go to market a little bit, but I wanted to ask you about APAC specifically. That region grew 15% in the quarter much faster than some of the other regions. What’s driving that strength, and how sustainable is this?

Kip Meitser: That’s a good question. You know, seasonally, I think sometimes Asia Pac, you know, does very well in the second quarter as opposed to other quarters, if I recall, from the past. But there’s nothing I I think, you know, we have probably, you know, between SASE and the new product offerings we have there. We also have some new leadership from a sales point there that’s been on board for, I think, over a year now. Nadav spent a lot of time in Asia.

We had a CPX in Thailand. We’ve had other events over there. So I think there’s been some some quite a bit of good success there in in from a channel perspective also.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Wanna bring it back to more of a product focused discussion.

Kip Meitser: Double team stuff is just, you know, so much fun.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Yeah. Back up. Yeah. So I really love how Nadav has taken Check Point’s core competency and positioned it as hybrid mesh. So my question for you is where does identity fit in hybrid mesh?

And to the extent you have opinions on the Palo Alto CyberArk deal, we’d love to hear them.

Kip Meitser: Oh, no. We don’t wanna do that. We don’t wanna talk about competitors.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Would just say that so very generic. Where does identity fit?

Kip Meitser: Yeah. I would just say from a from an identity perspective, we have our open garden approach, and we believe you know my view on identity. I’ve always believed it’s been Switzerland. It’s it’s something that needs to be independent, and and people should be able to utilize freely. So Okta, SailPoint, all these guys, I don’t believe it actually belongs.

Now my management could change their mind. This is my opinion. But as far as identity, we’ve always taken along with the rest of our, you know, opera what do you wanna call it? Our open garden approach where we have our core competencies and areas that we will play, but we will have an interoperability with everybody. And so I think when you take something and you shut it down to one company, I think there’s a lot of risks that are that are inherent with that.

Not only the security because you you kind of adopt the the culture of one company or the other, but you also have to deal with the integration aspect. And there’s lots of risk, right, especially with large acquisitions. You know, we tend to do them smaller so we can tightly integrate them into what we do. That’s why we’ve, you know, always made the type of acquisitions we do. It doesn’t mean we wouldn’t do big ones, but we believe you get it right when you can either build it internally or do it with the help of acquisitions, not try to take something that’s already established and then, you know, try and remake it in your or how should we say it, convoluted way of pulling it together.

They rarely work.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: I also wanna talk a little bit more about SASE because we talked just a few minutes ago about the incremental investments Check Point is making in SASE. What do you think is driving your differentiation in SASE today, and what are the next technical milestones that you need to hit to level up?

Kip Meitser: So I think the key part of it is, one, it’s our efficacy. Two, it’s ease of use, ease of installation, and most of all, the up to 10 x speed faster than our competitors. And that’s because of the way that the the product is designed. Right? Encryption on the device to go straight out to the Internet, go over the public cloud where necessary, go over the private cloud to your own data center, etcetera, where it’s necessary.

So the user doesn’t get frustrated with that latency that occurs in other ways. So I think that’s what’s really beautiful about it, but also the integration where now there’s one policy. So one policy between the firewall and the SASE. So follows your users. It’s not an issue.

And so I think it’s look. The milestones ahead of us are just to increase capacity. We’re in the tens of thousands. We need to get a you know, to higher levels. Even though it covers most of, you know, the size of enterprises, you know, that’s in the bell, you know, the the outer sides, the the other ends of the the curve, you need to be able to hit.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: When do you think you’ll be able to hit a 100 k plus?

Kip Meitser: I’m sure we’ll be able to tell you that at the Analyst Day when we have

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: And to be close, it’s an Analyst Day that’s in the works that

Kip Meitser: I would just say that, you know, we’ve given a little color that, you know, we probably you’ve heard us. You know, we did over the past two years, we did the analyst track. And so what you can expect is probably in the coming year once, you know, Nadav’s had one year under his belt that we probably wanna come out and talk to Wall Street and give them some better ideas of how to view our company and and what what lies forward. Right? What’s the expectations that they can have for the years in the in the future?

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Let me ask you about firewall refresh. So you are in year two on Quantum Refresh. We’ve talked about how in any given year, it’s 20% of the installed base plus or minus that’s up for renewal. Last year, I think, was north of 20%. This year, also tracking north of 20%.

How do you think about firewall refresh for your business and specifically the risk that we’ve now had two above 20% years for Checkpoint, which means next year might be below 20% year.

Kip Meitser: So I would say in the first half of the year, we expect to still see strength, and and it may even go beyond. Right? We’ll we’ll see what we we talk about in the beginning of the year once we finish up this year and have our plans for next year. I think some of the interesting dynamics that are going on in this market is, you know, security matters and people are caring about it. And more so than ever and, you know, efficacy from a standpoint of critical vulnerabilities.

I mean, every, you know, sales lost event just puts another feather in our cap for, you know, what it’s like to have efficacy of our standard. And so what I would say is when it comes to the hardware side, that’s really where the sets pull of of critical vulnerabilities are. And some of our competitors are worse than others, and I think that creates a great opportunity, especially when you look at the total cost of ownership. When you start adding in how many times you’re patching, how many times you’re dealing with breaches, and things along that line. So I think the potential for us to grow at the market or above the market is definitely there.

And, again, this is this is what time will tell, but we think we’re uniquely positioned from the product sets that we have and what we’ve delivered. We’re seeing cases today where people are doing refreshes, and they’re actually refreshing into our competitors’ solutions, where they have their footprint. And and I expect that to continue, but time will tell.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: You made a really interesting nuance there around first half of next year. Why would one h next year be stronger for firewall refresh for Check Point versus the second half?

Kip Meitser: Because that’s what we can see.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Okay. Sorry.

Kip Meitser: It’s only that. Just what we can see.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Alright. I’m gonna ask one more on Sassy, and then we’ll go to the audience. We’ve been trying to triangulate where we are in terms of enterprise Sassy adoption.

Kip Meitser: Mhmm.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: And we had thought that a lot of wood had been chopped during COVID, but, actually, it seems like there’s some really nice growth in the SASE market today as well. So would love your thoughts. Do you think we’re still relatively early on in enterprise SASE adoption, or is this gonna be more of a going from older gen solutions to newer gen solutions and now Check Point’s competing on the newer gen solutions side?

Kip Meitser: So one, I think it’s very, very mildly penetrated when you look at all the number of SaaS out there, you know, largest install base that you could z scale it with nine or 10,000. When you look at everybody else and what it counts up to, it’s, not that much. We have north of a 100,000 customers, and I believe the last time I checked, it’s somewhere in the 80% do not even have a SASE solution. So that’s all greenfield. And anybody that’s done an early adopter approach, right, that has, you know, say, one of the guys that have a a larger position, once you start having the benefit of having your firewall, all your network, and having one policy that follows your users no matter where they go, so you have that same corporate policy, and it’s ease of use in doing it.

Right? There’s no there’s not a chance for user error of opening up two different management consoles to try and implement the same policy or anything along that line. So I think, you know, this goes back to security matters. And part of security is how you manage it. Right?

If you’re having to dip into different management consoles, you you have things that are loosely coupled together instead of tightly integrated, that’s a very different experience.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Your Nuance Huron, you can already be best of breed, it sounds like, for tens of thousands of users, if I’m understanding this right. So is it fair to say that there are no barriers or technical reasons why you shouldn’t be winning in that mid market, lower end of the enterprise category today for SASE?

Kip Meitser: I would say once we launch it. Right? So that product, the full product that we’re talking about

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: I gotcha.

Kip Meitser: Okay. It’s being launched in q four. We’re still selling it today, but think of it as beta testers, people taking it on, that type of thing.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: K.

Kip Meitser: Like, we’ve had people that have been our customers for many years that are part and parcel into, you know, endorsing it and building it and telling what’s what’s needed.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Gotcha. Alright. Let’s pause. Questions from the audience?

Kip Meitser: Don’t all rush at once. I could ask a follow-up on the fact that you’re short for words.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: Yeah. When you say you need to add more capacity, what are we talking about exactly? Are we talking about more points of presence to deliver the product?

Kip Meitser: The just the scalability of the product.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: Through the infrastructure or the product?

Kip Meitser: Infrastructure through everything. Through the actual application of it. Got it. So is there any

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: way to quantify the points of presence that you currently have? And

Kip Meitser: I think we have north of 50, but you see our points of presence aren’t what makes the difference there. Right? You you have it going over the the public cloud. You have it going through a private for, you know, each customer, and then you have what goes straight out to the Internet. So it’s the application itself that that really needs to scale.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: Got it. That makes sense. Yeah. Coming back to the discussion of AI, AI first security is a core focus for Check Point. Beyond threat prevention, how do you expect to be able to monetize your AI capabilities, and what’s the timeline?

Kip Meitser: Well, I think, first of all, I think it’s early days. But I think, you know, threat prevention, but also threat prediction. Right? That’s that’s part of the game plan. But, you know, trying to predict what’s next.

But I I think it’s early days to be talking about it from my standpoint. I think when we get to early next year, I think we’ll have a lot more to say about a lot of different things.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: How do you think AI is impacting security budgets and strategic conversations? And why might this cycle be different than prior cycles? You you

Kip Meitser: probably You know, everybody says it’s eating software. It’s not eating security. If you’re not if you’re not protecting your organization, if you’re if you’re training, if you’re doing anything like that, you need security more than ever. So I I don’t think it’s impacting security budgets whatsoever. I think it actually could enhance them, to be honest with you, in the longer run.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: But not enhancing them at at the moment?

Kip Meitser: I’m not in a position to make that statement. Right? We’ll see how the the next couple quarters go. Right? So I just don’t think they’re impacting budgets in a negative way.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: K. Yeah. Got it. And you’ve mentioned AI implementations for internal productivity. What are some of the use cases you’re seeing that are driving?

Kip Meitser: So it’s funny. I I found out about one from Roy while we were in New York. Excellent. So, you know, we have them around, you know, engineers. We we try to utilize it in it.

Everybody’s got an AI project in every part of the company, but Roy told everybody on his team that they don’t get to hire anybody till they can show AI improvement. So it was a challenge to his team, which is let’s let’s see what kind of efficiencies we can build with with leveraging AI throughout the finance org. And I was like, interesting. I’m already using AI, so I’m okay. But I can’t get any leaner.

Right? I’m only three people, me, myself, and I. So yeah. No. So it’s it’s interesting.

We we have embraced it in a very big way.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: What are the use cases in finance?

Kip Meitser: I don’t have those off the top of my head. Sure. I I would say they’re in the process of implementing them. Let’s let’s just say that. What’s the use case in your world?

Are you gonna get rid of

Unidentified speaker: Max with AI? Are you gonna have one of

Kip Meitser: those little Impossible. Those little Tesla guys to do Max’s job? Impossible. Oh, that’s probably true.

Max Camprill, Analyst, Goldman: Thank you.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Alright. We can obviously talk more offline. We just did a session with our CRO of engineering to Uh-huh. Chat through some of our AI use cases. But I think we’re we’re pretty much at time.

So let’s last last minute questions from the audience? Please.

Unidentified speaker: Clearly, the space is consolidating consolidating around the larger vendors. And certain of your peers, quite a few actually, but but certain ones are being more aggressive than others in terms of, you know, the how they handle their their their cash collections, etcetera, organic acquisitions. So what what is that if anything, how are you guys handling that tactically? Are you doing anything differently because of that?

Kip Meitser: From an m and a perspective?

Unidentified speaker: Whether it’s m and a, whether it’s, you know, how you are investing in the business, how you’re dealing with customers in terms of getting their feedback, how they how they feel about some of this stuff. Does So

Kip Meitser: I I I think, first of all, we we have for feedback from our customers, we have a group that’s called Checkmate. And our our customers are are advocates for the company, and and that’s how they communicate with the company through these programs. They have meetings. They there’s online resources, everything. So we we’ve got that down pat.

As far as when it comes to m and a or how our our competitors are addressing the market, I think that’s separate from the way we operate our I think we pay attention, and I think we try to understand what they’re doing, but it doesn’t change us from our North Star. You know, we we are flexible and we adapt in what we’re doing, and, you know, we’re not rigid. We’re not just going one way with you know, blindly. But we we definitely we don’t we have a path that we’re following and, you know, we’re an open garden approach. Nobody else has that approach.

You know, we’re looking to make our customers’ environment as safe as possible. And in that from that perspective, our competitors aren’t our competitors. They’re our partners. And so the idea there is the focus should be on the customer and making them safer. And and that’s where, you know, being complimentary, that’s where you bought the Verity acquisition.

So you can see our our customer remain our our focus remains on the customer. So we take our our belief in having the highest efficacy of security we can and doing everything to achieve that, and at the same time, trying to make our customers’ environment as safe as possible. And whatever we’re doing, it’s gonna be with that goal in mind. And we believe that’s what’s gonna take us to the next level.

Gabriela Borges, Analyst, Goldman: Kip, always a pleasure. Please join us in thanking Kip for his time.

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