Earnings call transcript: Cheffelo AB Q2 2025 sees stock surge 9.5%

Cheffelo AB, with a market capitalization of $2.5 billion, reported its Q2 2025 earnings, showcasing strong financial performance and a positive market reaction. The company achieved an earnings per share (EPS) of 1.27, aligning with market forecasts, and reported revenue of 269 million USD. Following the earnings announcement, Cheffelo’s stock surged 9.5%, reflecting investor optimism and confidence in the company’s strategic direction. According to InvestingPro analysis, the company currently appears fairly valued based on its Fair Value metrics.

Key Takeaways

• Cheffelo’s EPS met expectations at 1.27 USD.
• Revenue reached 269 million USD, matching forecasts.
• Stock price increased by 9.5% post-earnings.
• Strong market position in Scandinavia with robust growth in Norway.
• Positive outlook with expected double-digit growth in Q3.

Company Performance

Cheffelo AB demonstrated solid performance in Q2 2025, with significant growth in net sales and earnings before interest and taxes (EBIT). The company’s last twelve months EBITDA reached $206.6 million, while revenue grew 7.9% to $3.95 billion. The company reported a 9.6% increase in net sales for the first half of the year, with a notable 42% rise in EBIT to 42 million SEK. The EBIT margin expanded to 7%, reflecting improved operational efficiency. Cheffelo’s strategic focus on personalization and product innovation has bolstered its competitive position in the Scandinavian market, particularly with strong consumer sentiment in Norway.

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Financial Highlights

• Revenue: 269 million USD, meeting forecasts.
• Earnings per share: 1.27 USD, aligning with expectations.
• EBIT: 42 million SEK, up 42% year-over-year.
• EBIT margin: 7%, reflecting operational improvements.

Earnings vs. Forecast

Cheffelo’s Q2 2025 earnings per share of 1.27 USD met market expectations, with no significant deviation from forecasts. The company’s revenue of 269 million USD also matched predictions, indicating stable financial performance. This alignment with forecasts suggests consistent execution of strategic initiatives and effective cost management.

Market Reaction

Following the earnings release, Cheffelo’s stock experienced a notable increase of 9.5%, closing at 54 USD. The stock has demonstrated remarkable strength with a 59.8% return over the past year and a 24.5% gain year-to-date. This surge reflects investor confidence in the company’s growth prospects and strategic direction. Analyst consensus is strongly bullish, with price targets ranging from $73 to $85, suggesting significant upside potential. The stock’s performance is particularly impressive given its position within the 52-week range, with a high of 56.3 USD and a low of 23.4 USD, demonstrating strong market sentiment.

Outlook & Guidance

Cheffelo is optimistic about its future performance, projecting double-digit growth in Q3 and expecting full-year net sales growth to exceed the 8% target. The company anticipates a return to profitability in Q4 and plans to maintain sales and marketing expenses around 12% for 2025. Cheffelo’s focus on product innovation and market expansion is expected to drive continued growth.

Executive Commentary

Walker Kinmen, CEO, emphasized the company’s commitment to simplifying meal preparation with innovative, well-balanced recipes. "Our goal is to make life less complicated with inspiring and tasty, well-balanced meals that are easy to prepare," he stated. Erik Bergmann, CFO, highlighted the importance of cost discipline and top-line growth for long-term profitability.

Risks and Challenges

• Market saturation in Denmark, which saw a slight contraction.
• Potential currency headwinds affecting international sales.
• Food inflation between 4-5% across markets could impact margins.
• Competitive pressure from companies like HelloFresh.
• Supply chain disruptions that could affect product availability.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts inquired about customer reactivation strategies and pricing logic changes. Cheffelo’s management addressed these concerns, highlighting their focus on personalization and competitive positioning. The company confirmed growth expectations despite potential currency challenges.

Full transcript - Cheffelo AB (CHEF) Q2 2025:

Webcast Moderator: Hello, and welcome to today’s webcast with Cephalo, where CEO, Walker Kinmen and CFO, Erik Bergmann, will present a report for the 2025. After the report, there will be a Q and A. So if you have any questions for the company, please submit them using the form to the right. And with that said, I hand over the word to you, Walker.

Walker Kinmen, CEO, Sheflow: Thank you, and good morning to everyone joining us, and welcome to this presentation of Sheflow’s second quarter results for 2025. So my name is Walker Kinman. I’m the CEO of Sheflow. I’m here today with Eric Barryman, our CFO. I’m gonna take a few minutes to give you a short intro on the company for those of you that perhaps are joining us for the first time and then take you through some prepared remarks on the development over the first half in q two financials, and then we will take your questions.

You can fill these questions in on the form located to the right of the broadcast. So let’s start with a little about Sheflow and our business. For over sixteen years, we have been changing the way people eat dinner by innovating the mealtime experience. In Norway, we operate under the brands Gottlevert and Adam’s Maltkase. In Sweden, Lina’s Maltkase, and and in Denmark, These well known local brands have a rich history of innovation and entrepreneurship that are all geared towards making our customers’ lives easier.

Our goal is to make life less complicated with inspiring and tasty, well balanced meals that are easy to prepare. By taking the stress out of meal planning, shopping, and cooking, we help more people eat better and bring families together around the dinner table. Our meal kit business model is demand driven. Because of this, we can maintain very low inventories and minimize food waste generated in our operations. Our local chefs and dietitians create recipes that reflect local taste preferences while offering the broadest selection of meal kit recipes available in the markets where we operate.

We provide a highly personalized customer experience across all our brands powered by our in house technology platform. The customer experience we deliver capitalizes on AI technology driving, for example, preselection of recipes based on preferences, purchase history and ratings, and our recommendation engine. This level of personalization is supported by the capability to produce each order individually using Pictolite and automated production solutions. Our supply chain is well established, strong, and scalable, enabling us to efficiently purchase and distribute our products in each country where we operate. Furthermore, we are constantly integrating our Nordic supply chain, enabling us to take advantage of sourcing opportunities across markets.

So turning to slide five, let’s talk about some of the key figures for the quarter and the first half. We’re gonna have to talk about Easter timing quite a lot again this quarter, which is unfortunate from the perspective of those trying to understand the normal patterns of our business. This is the fourth quarter of the last six we’ve reported where Easter shifting back and forth between the first and the second quarter has affected comparability, this time reducing growth. While q two growth was lower due to Easter timing, we have had strong acceleration after the summer, and double digit growth for the third quarter is expected. This means that looking at our performance over the entire first half gives a much better understanding of where the business is right now rather than looking at q two on a stand alone basis.

We said that growth would be reduced in the second quarter due to Easter timing, which it was, and therefore growth over the first set of the half of the year came in at 12%. This is roughly a doubling of the growth rate relative to what we experienced in the first half of last year. A relative strengthening of the SEK, however, also negatively affected comparability and consolidated net sales growth in the first half came in at just under 10%. Norway continues to be a substantial catalyst behind our growth story this year with the Goatleberg brand outshining the other three brands, and this is being driven by substantially higher customer acquisition. Local currency growth in Norway during the first half was almost 19%.

Sweden continued a steady growth path, up almost 9% for the first half. We can also highlight that our add ons and groceries revenue grew by 50% for the first half on a reported currency basis. I will talk more about what we are doing in this area shortly. EBIT profitability continues to expand, and we increased EBIT to 41,900,000.0 SEK during the first half. This means that EBIT margin has expanded 1.6 percentage points while growing by 42% or 12,400,000.0 SEK over the first half of the year.

So let’s turn to slide six and take a look at the general market development. So consumer sentiment continues to correlate with what we’re seeing in terms of business growth and customer acquisition results. Norway consumer sentiment continues to develop favorably and reached a neutral level in August. In June, Norway’s central bank also made its first interest rate reductions since the 2023, helping to free up more disposable income for households. While Norway was slightly contracting over the first half of last year for us, this year, we have seen, as mentioned, almost 19% growth, and we are performing very well in the market.

Norway accounts for about half of Shefalo’s consolidated net sales. Consumer confidence in Sweden fell off sharply from the end of last year and was lower in the second quarter. Despite this decline in sentiment, our performance in the market appears strong with growth of almost 9% outpacing the growth of the Swedish online growth index in the first half, which would have been about 5% based on a simple average of q one and q two. We do a little over one third of our business in the Linus brand in Sweden, so we’re very encouraged to see significant improvement in order frequency and lower churn rates in Sweden helping to drive volume growth. We indicated in our last report that we expected Denmark to be flat, so we were a bit disappointed to see a contraction of just over 2% in local currency during the first half.

Food inflation has moved between 45% this year in Denmark on an annualized basis, and this is also helping drive growth in the Danish online index, which showed just under 6% for the first five months of the year. Danish consumer confidence has deteriorated over the last year with tariff uncertainty and a turbulence in the pharmaceutical industry having a broad impact on the economy. We are not satisfied with the development in Denmark coming off a very strong 2024, and we remain focused on returning to a clear path of profitable growth despite the current market conditions and softer consumer demand. As we move into the third quarter, we are continuing to see strong growth in Norway, solid growth in Sweden, and a stable business in the Danish markets. Let’s take a closer look on the next slide at some of the growth metrics clearly having an impact on the second quarter result.

The four areas that we have talked about over the last year helping to drive growth are increases in average order value, active customers, order frequency, and add ons and groceries. Given the fact that active customers and order frequency measurements outside of a quarterly context work poorly and the distortion due to Easter timing in the q two results, I’ll focus on the other two areas. Average order value was up 4.6% when adjusting for exchange rate differences. This has been driven predominantly by price increases over the last year and to a lesser degree by more portions and more recipes for deliveries. Growth in the add ons and groceries basket penetration also positively affected average order value to a lesser degree.

We raised prices in August by 2%, which helps address continued food inflation seen in the market as well as adjustments to our pricing logic that helped improve the customer experience. Add on and grocery revenue increased by almost 44% in q two, but was still limited to only 2% of total net sales. Basket penetration increased by 2.9 percentage points but remained in the mid teens giving substantial room for growth. During q two, we were able to release both technical changes and accelerate the assortment development. So let’s share some of that on the next slide.

Growth in add ons of groceries during q two centered to a large degree on continuing to test product assortment and improve communication with our customers. More precomposed kits like tacos, wraps, and salads are showing positive results, helping fill in the blank for ad hoc meals not planned with a full meal kit recipe. Bundling with retail discounting strategies is further helping create interest in the A and G assortment. We have introduced more seasonal relevance as well with tests on the May 17 celebrations in Norway and midsummer in Sweden. These tests allowed significantly more flexibility in choosing relevant side dishes and main courses specific to these eating occasions.

Getting customers to take a closer look at the assortment shifts focus to testing different communication methods and messages, And these have also helped us learn how to sell even more effectively. At the end of the quarter, the team deployed new tools for administrating the assortment and completed system architecture changes that enable the next steps moving into the second half. We have already seen some of the positive contributions to that so far in q three with the ability to plan and communicate the A and G offering more efficiently and expect continued high relative growth in the area. With that, let me now take turn it over to Eric to take us through the financials.

Erik Bergmann, CFO, Sheflow: Thank you, Wakir, and good morning, everyone. Second quarter was operationally a strong quarter, although it was masked by both Easter and currency effects. Reported growth for the second quarter was 1.9. However, it is important to note that customers to a large extent passed deliveries during holidays. This year, Easter fell in the second quarter, while last year it was partially in the first quarter.

This means that the timing of Easter impacts the comparability of metrics year over year. If we include the last week of the first quarter and thus including all Easter week in both years, we grew by 6.1% in local currency. Although that we provide an Easter adjusted growth, to fully take into account the effects of Easter, I still recommend to focus on the first half as a whole. In the first half, net sales grew by 9.6%. In addition to the easier timing, the underlying growth was also masked by continued negative effects from currency on our consolidated net sales.

This is a result from the Swedish krona getting relatively stronger to both Norwegian and Danish krona. Adjusting for currency effect, net net sales grew by 12% in the first half. Growth continued to be driven by strong momentum in both Norway and Sweden, while Denmark saw a softer demand. Average order value increased by 1.4, 4.6% when adjusted for currency, reflecting both pricing changes and changes in the geographical mix. Our active customer base grew by 1.9%, which is lower than we saw in the first quarter, and order frequency dipped slightly.

But both of these measures and the development in them are mainly explained by the Easter timing. But with that, let’s move on to the next slide. We remain on track to exceed an annual contribution margin of 31%. In the second quarter, contribution margin landed at 30.3%, down 0.8 percentage point from last year. This was primarily driven by higher input costs, with input goods as the share of net sales increased from 46% to 46.7%.

The relatively higher input cost was mainly due to the food inflation and adjustment to our pricing structure. These adjustments include removing most plus prices on recipes as we listen to our customer feedback. Now, if a dish has a premium price, it is clear to the customer that it is because of the dish type or that it includes more expensive ingredients. As we transition to this approach, we expect a period of higher cost and we expect to see continued effects from this also in the third quarter. I also want to emphasize that our contributor margin typically fluctuates with seasonality, and we do anticipate seeing seasonally lower levels in the third quarter.

Let’s move on to the next slide. Looking at overall profitability, we saw an improvement in EBIT. EBIT for the first half, which includes all effects from Easter timing, has increased by 42% to almost SEK42 million, with the margin increasing to 7%. In the second quarter, EBIT grew by 9.9% to SEK21.4 million and the margin improved to 8.2%. The improvement in our profitability margins is primarily driven by economies of scale.

We continue to maintain a strict cost discipline and we remain focused on growing our top line to ensure long term profitability. The second quarter is typically characterized by lower spending on sales and marketing, since we focused most of those investments in the first and third quarters. We are really pleased to see the reduced relative sales and marketing expenses compared to last year, while still delivering 18% increase in new customers during the quarter. All in all, I am pleased to see the improvement in profitability, both in the quarter as well in the first half, which includes easy effects in both years. Let’s move on to the cash flow.

Our improved profitability is translating into a strong cash flow Cash flow operating activities before changes in net working capital amounts to SEK56.8 million in the first half, which was SEK10 million higher than last year. To truly understand cash flow in Schaeffeler, it is important to understand the dynamics of net working capital. To simplify, we have two major factors that influence the cash flow: accounts receivables and accounts payable. In the second quarter, as volumes decline towards summer vacation, we normally see a decline in working capital, resulting in negative effects from changes in net working capital. If we look at the effect from accounts receivables, this year’s quarter ended on a Monday, which meant that many inbound payments were delayed into the next quarter, unlike last year.

This is also reflected in accounts receivable, which was SEK70 million higher this year. This timing difference affected free cash flow comparison for both the rolling twelve months as well as for the first half of the year. During the quarter, we completed the exercise of two outstanding long term incentive programs and closed the third program. As a result, approximately 342,000 new shares were allocated to management and key employees, generating a positive cash flow effect of SEK8 million from the proceeds of the share issue. And to be clear, there are currently no other equity based programs in Sheffalo.

With that, let’s move on to have a look at the future periods. Looking forward, we expect full year net sales growth to exceed the upper end of our financial target range of 8%. This despite having one week less this year compared to last year, which you will notice in the fourth quarter. We expect our net sales growth in consolidated currency to continue being affected by currency effects going forward. The ramp up after summer has so far performed very well, and we anticipate double digit growth in the third quarter, with continued strong momentum in Norway and Sweden.

This, while Denmark is expected to remain flat for the rest of the year. Our contribution margin is expected to exceed 31% on an annual basis, although dampened in the third quarter. Sales and marketing expenses are projected to be around 12% for 2025. As in previous year, the third quarter is typically a seasonal weaker quarter for EBIT due to higher marketing spend and lower volumes during summer holidays. We expect to return to quarter profitability in the fourth quarter following the normal seasonal pattern.

With that, I would like to hand back to Walker for a quick summary.

Walker Kinmen, CEO, Sheflow: Alright. Thanks, Eric. And let’s turn to that last slide to summarize, and then we’ll open it up for questions. Make sure you, put your questions on the form to the right of the screen. So in summary, the second quarter represents a solid continuation to the year, and we can leave you then with, some takeaways.

Local currency growth rate almost doubling to 12% for the first half versus last year. A stronger SEK means that we continue to expect currency headwinds on reported net sales for the rest of the year. Profitability growth of 42% over the first half amounting to a 12,500,000 increase in EBIT. Add on and grocery growth continues at a high relative rate and was up 50% for the first half. And finally, we’re off to a good start in the second half.

We expect q three net sales to grow again by double digits, and we expect our full year net sales growth to exceed the upper financial target range of 8% despite having one less delivery week this year in the calendar. There’s a lot of energy in the team right now with both a strong first half result and good acceleration into q three. And, again, it’s the day to day commitment of the entire Shefield team that is delivering the development that we’re seeing in the business right now. I can only once again extend my sincere thanks to them for their individual contributions. This concludes our prepared remarks, and we’re ready to answer your questions.

Remember, form on the right side of the broadcast if you haven’t done so already. And our first question and only question so far, so feel free to ask questions if you got them. Could you explain how the weather was favorable in August? In our report last year, we we noted And the the basic issue with meal kit businesses is as the summer extends and if it extends, people also delay their behavior in terms of getting back to to schedules on a normal basis.

So last year, what we saw was basically our our ramp up in the third quarter shifting forward a week. We’re seeing a normal pattern this year. It’s if you if you live in, Scandinavia, we’ve had ups and downs in August, which is good for our business. Thankfully, it’s not been all rain, but, at the same at the same time, it hasn’t been so much sunshine that people stay home. We have another question here.

And last quarter, we wrote that the high volumes would result in scale economics in EBIT guiding that you would exceed the midpoint margin. Is this still true?

Erik Bergmann, CFO, Sheflow: So there’s nothing that has changed that. We continue to say that we will expect to see the financial or the net sales continue at a good pace. Thus, And we expect to see the same outcome on the EBIT margin. There is really no changes in the forward looking statement other than we do see both the good progress that we have in the third quarter, as well as slightly dampened contribution margin. But other than that, it’s still valid.

Walker Kinmen, CEO, Sheflow: I think it’s important to point out here as well that when we look at contribution margin, we talk specifically about changes in in, some pricing logic. And and, the pricing logic changes come back into reducing what are the plus prices. We’ve been working with several years on on plus prices, and the feedback from customers has been that that is both confusing and, in some cases, difficult to understand. So we’ve made changes in how we price the portfolio so the premium products stand out as premium. The other thing is we’ve seen food inflation, and we’ve been working with that in terms of both adjusting the price increases in August, but making sure that we’re adjusting the assortment to reflect cost control.

I think the last point is we’re working with some really cool new technologies around personalization. And so in some degrees, we’re actually learning as we go. And as we learn, we have to correct from time to time. We see that sort of as a contribution margin slightly affecting q two, but also coming in at the beginning of q three. But from a full year basis with the contribution margin target above 31%, we’re definitely on track to see scale economies through the business model.

We’re struggling a little bit to get clarity on what the questions are. Give us just a second, and we’ll get the next question out here. So the next question, any changes in competitive dynamics from HelloFresh in marketing and product offering? So, those of you that follow Shuffle, probably also closely follow, HelloFresh. There’s there is a lot of talk about product offering, when it comes to HelloFresh.

What I think we’re observing is that the biggest impacts in terms of product development and expanding product offering capabilities is simply that, the first place to work is The United States, the North American markets, followed by Australia and The UK. So we’re we’re able to read about changes that are happening in those other markets. But as we know very well, when it comes to product, product diversity, variation, how you can deliver, it’s very much based on your capabilities within the operating environment specific to fulfillment. So where where we continue to see strength is our strategic capabilities around customizing and personalizing the menu have allowed us to expand our offering this year with three and five portions across the entire Scandinavia. We’ve increased the number of recipes.

We’re running 90 plus recipes in in Sweden and Norway, and we’ve got fifty, sixty recipes in Denmark. So HelloFresh will continue to develop their offering. I have no no doubt about that. I think when we look at our core capabilities, our strategic capabilities, we’re very well positioned to continue strengthening those in Scandinavia. I would guess that when it comes to marketing, there have been reductions across the board in HelloFresh.

We see that in their last report. We are continuing to, pound at the same rate, and I think we’re getting better at doing what we do. So I’m, I’m I’m optimistic that our our relative competitiveness, is continuing to increase. Let’s take the next question. Little bit of a statement here as well.

I noticed Blue Apron has been relaunched in other markets with two aspects that it would be interesting to get your opinion on. They offer the possibility to make individual orders without committing to a subscription as the well as the Blue Apron Plus, a paid membership with certain perks. I guess they’re just ways of playing at the margins of the offering, but how are you thinking about these types of changes? So let’s take that as the first question, and there’s some more here. But I think I I think when we look at our business, it’s it comes back to, you know, what are our core capabilities, what are the strategic capabilities that we have to deliver very well.

And I think, you know, one of the things is is that when you come to, selling individual items on the Internet, the the ways of selling digitally by selling one offs, to any customer available is substantially different than establishing a subscription relationship with a a customer where the expectation is to buy on multiple occasions. We’re very good at the subscription relationship. This becomes a capability. We also introduce loyalty programs and other things that are focused on maintaining a a long relationship and solving a day to day problem all the time. So when it comes to sort of the one off sales, I don’t see it as a strategic capability in the business today to develop it and try to do what Blue Apron is doing.

I’m not sure it plays to our strengths. So I’m not necessarily gung ho on on what would be one off type of sales. I think when it comes to paid memberships, there there are certain things about that that are interesting. We have had it in our our, Danish business, for many years with, what would amount to a almost like an Amazon Prime where delivery fees are are waived against an annual membership fee. Today, we don’t have the technical capability to introduce that.

But I think in the in the range of options available to us, it’s certainly one that we haven’t taken off the page. What concrete initiatives are you carrying out to reignite growth in Denmark, or is this more of a question of fine tuning the offering while waiting for a market rebound? I don’t think we’re waiting for a market rebound, but we’ve been making a lot of changes in our acquisition organization. And I think we have we have other things, in play that, are having the ability to impact what we’re doing in Denmark in the short term. I think the long term is the focus on how we develop our customer acquisition capability even further.

So I do expect more I I expect more capability moving into next year. But in the short term, we do have some things that are impacting our, our development, and I think, that plays into different types of partnerships that we have established here in the third quarter. It it plays into also shifting the mix, and where we are spending money, which channels we’re focusing on. We’ve been doing analytics to look at optimizing different different media challenges channels, and we we have some conclusions on that that should help us as we move into the second half. The next question also from, the same, author.

You write that the require that the recruitment of customers we have seen throughout h one will let you reactivate more customers in q three, which is natural. But would it be possible to get some more commentary on your expectations as to how large the share of new customers that can be reactivated is? Do you expect it to have a material impact on year over year comparables in q three? So I think, the the key point here is as as, acquisition rates change, if they’re always the same, then we wouldn’t see any follow on effects. And and this is a part of the change dynamic in what we’re seeing in 2025 simply because if acquisition rates are substantially higher in a period than they were in the previous period, it also means that the churn of that new cohort will be greater relative to the entire portfolio of customers.

By that logic, though, it also means that the opportunity for reactivation in subsequent periods increases. I wouldn’t go so far to say at this point whether it will have a material impact or not. I think it is one of many variables that’s positively impacting how we’re seeing acceleration in q three. It’s also something that in the long term we’re interested in. But let’s remember that the key to this business not only is acquisition, but also keeping customers.

So we balance. We really need to balance where we’re, what we’re doing in terms of product development, and strengthening our our our you know, how we’re gonna win in this market elements, in a way that that has a long term impact on on our loyal subscriber base. Let’s see if we can find the next question here. Let me read this question, and then Eric will take it. With regards to your outlook, I interpret your growth commentary as if you expect 8% plus growth even when adjusting for currency, also for h two specifically.

Is this correct, or should we still anchor on 8% for the full year? And then we have the Swedish comp in here. From our report, we are convinced that even we’re we’re going to continue we’re convinced that we’re going to continue to beat the upper range of our financial target of 8%.

Erik Bergmann, CFO, Sheflow: So I think it’s good with the clarification on what we do say. So what we have said that the the the our comment is on the full year, and what we see the an eight that we will our performance with the financial targets now in 2025, and this is despite us having one less delivery week in 2025 compared to 2024. And it is in reported currency that we say that we will exceed the financial targets. And, yeah, and and then you could do the math on the second half assumption based on what what we have achieved so far. But the the expectation is exceeding our financial targets in a reported currency.

Walker Kinmen, CEO, Sheflow: And the last question that we have, so far, is it reasonable to assume that financial targets will be updated for the Capital Markets Day? I think the the response to that is, it isn’t overambitious if we look at the fact that we expect to or exceed our financial targets this year. So to the extent that we have a chance to look at, q three, once it’s complete, and discuss sort of, target setting with the board. I think that naturally plays out somewhere down the road. We’re looking forward to presenting the business at the Capital Markets Day.

I think we can talk about what, what how we’re thinking about the business strategically right now, what’s in in the pipe going forward, try to explain some of the dynamics a little bit better, especially for many of the new investors that have have joined and become investors in in in Shuffleo. And we’ll send out an invite on that when we know the date and have set that in stone. So looking forward to that. And we had one one more question that moved in here. Is the double digit growth in q three in local currency or not?

Erik Bergmann, CFO, Sheflow: It is, we we are referring to the reported currency, but the local current or but the reported currency is negatively affecting currency. So, yes, it’s both in local currency as well as in reported currency.

Walker Kinmen, CEO, Sheflow: Just checking to see if we have any more questions that have snuck in here, and I don’t see any more questions. So I’d like to thank you once again for joining us for this second quarter earnings call of Shefalo. We look forward to seeing you again at the Capital Markets Day or in November when we when we present our third quarter results. Wish you all a great day.

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