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Rayonier Inc. reported strong third-quarter 2025 results, exceeding analysts’ expectations with an earnings per share (EPS) of $0.32, significantly above the forecasted $0.22. Revenue reached $177.5 million, surpassing the $160.4 million forecast. Following these results, Rayonier’s stock price increased by 2.72% to $22.08 in after-hours trading, reflecting investor optimism.
Key Takeaways
- Rayonier’s Q3 EPS of $0.32 exceeded forecasts by 45.45%.
- Revenue for Q3 was $177.5 million, a 10.66% surprise over expectations.
- The company’s stock rose 2.72% in after-hours trading.
- A proposed merger with PotlatchDeltic is expected to close in early 2026.
- Rayonier anticipates improved market conditions in 2026.
Company Performance
Rayonier demonstrated robust performance in the third quarter of 2025, doubling its adjusted EBITDA from the previous year to $114 million. The company recorded a pro forma net income of $50 million, or $0.32 per share, and sales totaling $178 million. This performance is notable against a backdrop of challenging timber markets and underwhelming housing starts in 2025.
Financial Highlights
- Revenue: $177.5 million, up from the forecasted $160.4 million
- Earnings per share: $0.32, exceeding the forecast of $0.22
- Operating income: $42 million
- Cash available for distribution: $154 million for the first nine months, up from $77 million
Earnings vs. Forecast
Rayonier’s EPS of $0.32 was a significant 45.45% above the forecasted $0.22, marking a strong performance this quarter. Revenue also exceeded expectations by 10.66%, coming in at $177.5 million compared to the forecast of $160.4 million. This positive surprise indicates effective management and operational strategies amidst market challenges.
Market Reaction
Following the earnings announcement, Rayonier’s stock saw a 2.72% increase, reaching $22.08 in after-hours trading. This rise reflects investor confidence in the company’s ability to exceed market expectations and manage future growth. The stock remains closer to its 52-week low of $21.23, suggesting potential for further recovery.
Outlook & Guidance
Rayonier remains optimistic about its future prospects, expecting full-year adjusted EBITDA to reach or exceed the higher end of its prior guidance range of $215-$235 million. The company projects Q4 2025 net income between $13-$17 million and adjusted EBITDA between $50-$60 million. The anticipated merger with PotlatchDeltic is set to create a leading land resources company, with expected synergies of $40 million.
Executive Commentary
CEO Mark McHugh emphasized the company’s strategic initiatives, stating, "We continue to focus on optimizing our near-term financial results while also advancing important strategic initiatives." He also highlighted the merger’s potential, noting, "The merger will further drive enhanced opportunities to grow our land-based solutions."
Risks and Challenges
- Timber market headwinds and underwhelming housing starts in 2025
- Pulpwood market challenges due to mill closures
- Dependency on improved market conditions in 2026
- Execution risks associated with the merger with PotlatchDeltic
Q&A
During the earnings call, analysts inquired about alternative pulpwood demand sources and real estate sales dynamics. The discussion also covered timber market conditions in the Southern and Pacific Northwest regions, highlighting the company’s strategic focus on these areas.
Full transcript - Rayonier Inc (RYN) Q3 2025:
Conference Operator: Welcome, and thank you for joining Rayonier’s third quarter 2025 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. During the question-and-answer session, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Today’s conference is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. Now, I will turn the meeting over to Mr. Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning.
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Thank you, and good morning. Welcome to Rayonier’s Investor Teleconference, covering third quarter earnings. Our earnings statements and financial supplement were released yesterday afternoon and are available on our website at rayonier.com. I would like to remind you that in these presentations, we include forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of federal securities laws. Our earnings release and Forms 10-K and 10-Q filed with the SEC list some of the factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements we may make. They are also referenced on page two of our financial supplement. Throughout these presentations, we will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which are defined and reconciled to the nearest GAAP measures in our earnings release and supplemental materials. With that, let’s start our teleconference with opening comments from Mark McHugh, our President and CEO. Mark.
Mark McHugh, President and CEO, Rayonier: Thanks, Collin. Good morning, everyone. Before turning to our third quarter results, I’d like to briefly touch on the proposed merger of equals transaction that we announced with PotlatchDeltic on October 14. As detailed on our joint conference call a few weeks ago, we believe that this transaction will deliver significant strategic and financial benefits beyond what either company could achieve independently, including roughly $40 million of estimated run rate synergies. The combination will create a premier land resources company with a high-quality, well-diversified timberland portfolio spanning over 4 million acres, a dynamic real estate platform, and a well-positioned wood products manufacturing business. The merger will further drive enhanced opportunities to grow our land-based solutions and natural climate solutions business, given our increased scale and complementary revenue streams.
The combined company will benefit from a strong balance sheet, an exceptional talent pool, and a shared focus on disciplined capital allocation. I’m both excited and confident about the long-term value creation potential of this merger for our shareholders. The merger remains on track to close in late first quarter or early second quarter of 2026, subject to the satisfaction of customary closing conditions, including the receipt of required regulatory approvals and the approval of Rayonier and PotlatchDeltic shareholders. I’ve been pleased by the progress made during the initial phases of our integration planning, which is a testament to the cultural alignment of the two companies. Both organizations are very focused on the opportunity to create value for our shareholders through synergies, operational efficiencies, and the sharing of best practices, and we look forward to providing further updates as we get closer to closing.
Moving to our third quarter financial results, I’ll make some high-level comments before turning it over to April Tice, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, to review our consolidated financial results. Doug Long, Executive Vice President and Chief Resource Officer, will comment on our timber results. Following the review of our timber segments, April will discuss our real estate results and our outlook for the balance of the year. In the third quarter, we generated adjusted EBITDA of $114 million and pro forma net income of $50 million, or $0.32 per share. Adjusted EBITDA roughly doubled compared to the prior year quarter, driven by strong performance in our real estate segment, improved results in our southern timber segment, and favorable overhead costs, which were partially offset by lower results in our Pacific Northwest timber segment.
In our Southern Timber segment, we generated third quarter adjusted EBITDA of $43 million, which was up 13% from the prior year period, as increased harvest volumes more than offset a modest decline in weighted average net stumpage realizations. The 24% increase in harvest volumes versus the prior year quarter reflects drier weather conditions as well as the normalization of green block demand following significant salvage activity during the first half of the year. While overall market conditions continue to be challenging, we are pleased with our operational execution and financial results during the quarter. Turning to the Pacific Northwest Timber segment, third quarter adjusted EBITDA of $6 million was roughly $2 million below the prior year quarter, as higher log prices and lower costs were more than offset by a 34% decline in harvest volumes due to the Washington dispositions we completed at the end of last year.
In our real estate segment, we generated adjusted EBITDA of $74 million in the third quarter, up $54 million from the prior year period. The significant increase in adjusted EBITDA reflects a large contribution from a conservation sale in Florida, as well as strong results in our real estate development business. Turning to our outlook for the balance of 2025, we are on track to achieve full-year adjusted EBITDA at or above the higher end of our prior guidance range, driven largely by the continued strong momentum in our real estate business. With that, let me turn it over to April for more details on our third quarter financial results.
April Tice, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Rayonier: Thanks, Mark. As you review our financial results for the quarter, please note that all periods presented have been retrospectively adjusted to recap the historical results of the former trading segment into the Southern Timber and Pacific Northwest Timber segments, as we have eliminated the trading segment following the sale of our New Zealand business. Moving to the financial highlights on page five of the supplement. For the third quarter, sales totaled $178 million, while operating income was $42 million, and net income attributable to Rayonier was $43 million, or $0.28 per share. On a pro forma basis, net income was $50 million, or $0.32 per share. Pro forma items in the quarter included a $7 million asset impairment charge associated with a fair value assessment of certain real estate assets that were part of the Pope Resources acquisition.
Our adjusted EBITDA was $114 million in the third quarter, up from $57 million in the prior year period. Moving to our capital resources and liquidity at the bottom of page five, our cash available for distribution, or CAD, for the first nine months of the year was $154 million, versus $77 million in the prior year period. The significant increase was driven by a combination of higher adjusted EBITDA, lower cash interest expense, higher interest income, and lower capital expenditures. A reconciliation of CAD to cash provided by operating activities and other GAAP measures is provided on page eight of the financial supplement. During the third quarter, we repurchased 1.2 million shares at an average price of $24.55 per share, or $30 million in total, as we continue to believe that share repurchases represent a compelling use of capital.
As of September 30th, we had $232 million remaining on our current share repurchase authorization. However, given our pending merger with PotlatchDeltic, our ability to repurchase shares has been and will continue to be limited prior to the closing. We finished the third quarter with $920 million of cash and roughly $1.1 billion of debt. At quarter end, our weighted average cost of debt was approximately 2.4%, and the weighted average maturity on our debt portfolio was approximately four years. Our net debt to enterprise value, based on our closing stock price at the end of the quarter, was 3%, and our net debt was less than one time the midpoint of our adjusted EBITDA guidance.
As a result of the taxable gains arising from the sale of our New Zealand joint venture interest, we declared a $1.40 per share special dividend on October 14th, which will be paid on December 12th in a combination of cash and shares. The number of common shares issued as a result of the dividend will be calculated based on the volume-weighted average trading prices of the company’s common shares on the New York Stock Exchange on December 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Similar to the dividend paid earlier this year, by issuing shares to meet part of our retaxable income distribution requirement, we have retained significant flexibility. Allocation priorities. I’ll now turn the call over to Doug to provide a more detailed review of our timber results.
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Thanks, April. Let’s start on page nine with our Southern Timber segment. Adjusted EBITDA in the third quarter of $43 million was 13% above the prior year quarter, as higher harvest volumes more than offset lower net stumpage realizations. Total harvest volumes increased 24% versus the prior year quarter, as production improved due to drier weather conditions and increased demand for green logs as salvage operations in our Atlantic region subsided. Meanwhile, non-timber revenue was modestly lower compared to an exceptionally strong prior year period due to lower pipeline easement revenue. Average saw log net stumpage pricing was $27 per ton, a 3% decrease compared to the prior year period, primarily due to reduced sawmill demand coupled with the lingering market impacts of elevated salvage volume earlier in the year.
Pulpwood net stumpage pricing of roughly $14 per ton was 20% lower than the prior year quarter, driven by weaker demand following recent mill closure announcements, excess supply due to prior salvage operations, and an unfavorable shift in geographic mix. Overall, third quarter weighted average net stumpage realizations fell 5% versus the prior year quarter to roughly $20 per ton, as lower pulpwood pricing was partially offset by an increased proportion of saw timber volume. Last quarter, we noted that salvage volume from the hurricanes in 2024 was normalizing in our Atlantic markets, with mills shifting back for green log procurement. While salvage operations are largely in the rearview mirror, pricing improvements to date have been limited, as recent mill closure announcements have tempered the pulpwood demand outlook in certain market areas.
Looking beyond the current market headwinds, we continue to expect the supply side of the equation to tighten significantly in these markets over the next several years. The Georgia Forest Association estimates that approximately 26 million tons of pine and 30 million tons of hardwood were impacted by last year’s hurricanes, a substantial hit to regional supply that the market will contend with for years to come. In grave markets, soft end market demand, coupled with weaker residual markets, led some sawmills to reduce production during the quarter. Although construction activity is slowing seasonally, we expect U.S. lumber production to eventually ramp up in response to higher duties on Canadian lumber imports, the recently announced Section 232 tariffs of 10% on all softwood lumber imports, and the prospect of additional interest rate cuts and improved housing demand as we move forward. In pulpwood markets, conditions remain challenging through Q3.
Mill closures announced earlier this year in the Gulf region, followed by more recent announcements in Atlantic markets, have reduced regional demand and weighed on pricing. In our Gulf markets, dry conditions led to softer pricing, but allowed us to harvest some difficult-to-access areas. In the Atlantic, recent mill closures have resulted in some pricing pressure as wood flows adjust to these new demand patterns. As we move forward, we are optimistic that the recent capacity reductions should support improved operating rates across the remaining container board mill base, although the benefits will vary by region given the localized nature of pulpwood markets. Moving to our Pacific Northwest timber segment on page 10, third quarter adjusted EBITDA of $6 million was 26% below the prior year quarter due to lower harvest volumes, partially offset by higher log prices and costs.
Total harvest volumes decreased 34% in the third quarter as compared to the prior year period, reflecting the impact of the Washington dispositions we completed late last year. At $100 per ton, average delivered domestic saw log pricing in the third quarter increased 5% from the prior year period, primarily due to a favorable species mix. Meanwhile, at $36 per ton, pulpwood pricing was up 20% versus the prior year quarter. While lumber prices softened during the quarter, leading mills to build inventories, reduce production, and implement quotas, we remain confident in the region’s positioning for the structural changes ahead. Lumber produced in the Pacific Northwest competes more directly with Canadian production, making mills in the region particularly well-positioned to capture market share as higher duties constrain the supply coming from Canada.
The region should also benefit from the Section 232 tariffs on imported lumber, further supporting domestic producers over time. I’ll now turn it back over to April to cover our real estate results. April.
April Tice, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Rayonier: Thanks, Doug. As detailed on page 11, the contribution from our real estate segment during the third quarter was significantly above the prior year quarter due to a higher number of acres sold, partially offset by a lower weighted average price per acre. Real estate revenue totaled $91 million. On roughly 23,300 acres sold at an average price of $3,500 per acre, which included a 21,600-acre conservation sale in Florida. Real estate segment adjusted EBITDA in the third quarter was $74 million, above our prior guidance range of $50-$65 million, due to the successful closing of the large conservation sale, as well as better-than-expected results in our improved development category. Drilling down, sales in our improved development category totaled $21 million, with our Wildlight development project contributing $17 million and our Heartwood development project contributing $4 million.
Sales in Wildlight consisted of three residential pods totaling 212 acres at an average price of $78,000 per acre. These sales represent the first closing within the second phase of entitlements at Wildlight, or DSAP 2, which allow for the development of about 15,000 homes and 1.4 million sq ft of commercial uses. Key infrastructure supporting DSAP 2 was completed during the third quarter, and we were excited to announce the initial builders involved in this new phase of Wildlight during September. As we have discussed in the past, we will capture additional value from these pod sales through participation fees received from the home builders as deliveries occur based on the final home sale prices. Heartwood sales in the quarter consisted of a 14-acre parcel for the development of a senior living community for $4 million, or $271,000 per acre.
We also sold a two-acre commercial use parcel in Kitsap County, Washington, for roughly $400,000, or $200,000 per acre. Overall, we continue to see a favorable growth trajectory for both Wildlight and Hartwood moving forward. The work we’ve done over the last several years to build our entitlements pipeline, enhance infrastructure, and catalyze these markets continues to translate into strong interest from both commercial and residential end users. In the rural category, third quarter sales totaled $7 million, consisting of approximately 1,500 acres at an average price of roughly $4,800 per acre. We experienced a fairly light quarter of closing activity, but our pipeline for rural land sales remains strong, and we continue to see healthy interest from potential buyers. Timberland and non-strategic sales during the quarter totaled $53.5 million, which consisted of a 21,600-acre property in Levy County, Florida, sold to a conservation-oriented buyer for roughly $2,500 per acre.
We viewed this property as non-strategic, as it was only 55% plantable, had an average plantation age class of just seven years, and was fairly distant from our core holdings in the region. The pricing we achieved on this sale reflects a strong premium to timberland value and a strong return on our original investment, and we are pleased that the property will now provide a unique recreation and conservation area in the state of Florida. Now turning to our outlook for the balance of 2025. As Mark discussed earlier, we are on track to achieve full-year adjusted EBITDA and pro forma EPS at or above the higher end of our prior guidance range of $215 million-$235 million and $0.34-$0.41, respectively.
With respect to our individual segments, starting with our Southern Timber segment, we expect full-year adjusted EBITDA will be modestly below our prior guidance range due to continued softness in end market demand and lower anticipated harvest volumes. In our Pacific Northwest Timber segment, we expect full-year adjusted EBITDA toward the lower end of our prior guidance range, as the anticipated improvement in lumber markets from the increase in duties on Canadian imports has been slower to materialize than previously expected. In our Real Estate segment, we expect full-year adjusted EBITDA to exceed the high end of our prior guidance range due to our strong third quarter results and our transaction pipeline for the remainder of the year. As in recent quarters, we are providing quarterly guidance for our overall adjusted EBITDA and EPS to help manage expectations around quarter-to-quarter variability.
For the fourth quarter, we currently expect net income attributable to Rayonier of $13-$17 million, EPS of $0.08-$0.11, and adjusted EBITDA of $50-$60 million. I’ll now turn the call back to Mark for closing comments.
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Thanks, April. As we wrap up our comments on the quarter, I’d like to commend our team for their relentless focus on operational execution amid challenging market conditions. We continue to focus on optimizing our near-term financial results while also advancing important strategic initiatives and allocating our capital with a view toward building long-term value per share. As we discussed last quarter, housing starts and repair and remodel activity have underwhelmed in 2025. However, we are optimistic as we approach 2026 that a combination of factors, including higher duty rates, new tariffs stemming from the Section 232 investigation, and lower mortgage rates will collectively drive increased U.S. lumber production, which should be a positive for U.S. timberland owners. In addition, with greater clarity on tariffs and anticipated improvements in pulp and paper mill operating rates, we’re optimistic that our pulpwood customers will see fundamentals improve next year as well.
In our real estate business, we are on pace for another strong year in 2025. We continue to capitalize on opportunities to unlock value across our portfolio, given the continued strong demand for our rural properties, the healthy interest from conservation-oriented buyers, and the favorable momentum at both our Wildlight and Hartwood development projects. On the land-based solutions front, our team continues to advance solar, carbon capture and storage, and carbon offset project opportunities with high-quality counterparties. I remain very encouraged about the long-term value creation potential from our land-based solutions business. In particular, the substantial capital that continues to flow into AI and data center infrastructure is driving significant growth in energy demand, and utility solar remains poised to play a major role in meeting the need for cost-effective renewable energy.
Turning to the merger with PotlatchDeltic, I see a tremendous runway for the combined company, as significant strategic and financial benefits will be realized by combining our portfolios and our teams. Our shareholders will benefit from a more diversified timberland portfolio, a complementary wood products manufacturing business, and an enhanced platform to unlock value through HBU real estate opportunities, as well as natural climate and land-based solutions. We continue to estimate run rate synergies of $40 million by the end of year two, which will be primarily driven by corporate and operational cost optimization. Integration planning is progressing well, and our teams are working to position the combined company to hit the ground running following the closing of the merger.
In sum, while timber markets continue to face some headwinds, our team is focused on navigating the current environment with a long-term perspective and we’re energized by the significant value creation potential that we see on the horizon. That concludes our prepared remarks, and I’ll now turn the call back to the operator for questions.
Conference Operator: The phone lines are now open for questions. If you would like to ask a question over the phone, please press star one and record your name. If you’d like to withdraw your question, press star two. One moment for the first question, please. The first question in the queue is from Mark Weintraub with Seaport Research Partners. Your line is now open.
Mark Weintraub, Analyst, Seaport Research Partners: Thank you. Definitely lots of positive developments, it seems, on the real estate side. Maybe we want to get a little bit of an update on how sustainable some of the increased activity in the various categories might be, as you see it. Separately, though, also on the pulpwood side, it is quite challenging. In the past, there have been conversations about alternative demand sources. Just curious whether or not you have any updated views on whether there might be any developments there to help offset some of the lost demand we have seen as mills have shut.
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Hey, Mark, this is Mark. I’ll take the first question on real estate, and then I’ll turn it over to Doug to address the pulpwood question. As we’ve discussed in the past, real estate sales are invariably going to be lumpy. In this particular quarter, we had a large conservation sale, as well as pretty strong results in our development business. Recognize that it can take quite a while for a conservation transaction of this scale to come together. This particular transaction has actually been in the works for about a year now. Even though it was a lower price per acre than we typically see for some of our smaller rural HBU transactions, we still felt that the value was pretty compelling given the timberland attributes relative to the conservation potential of this particular property.
If we can realize a significant premium to underlying timberland value and an even more significant premium to the implied public market trading value of our land, we see that as a smart arbitrage opportunity. This level of real estate activity is certainly not going to be the type of thing we’re going to see on a regular basis, but we were very pleased to have a couple of major transactions get over the finish line in the third quarter. Yeah, Mark, and this is Doug. I’ll take the second part of your question around the pulpwoods. As you know, we’re always looking at other strategic alternatives to diversify our pulpwood markets kind of beyond our traditional domestic pulp and paper customers.
While not nearly as meaningful as it was before trying to ban logs from the U.S., we’ve started to see some renewed export activity to other markets, particularly in that Port of Savannah area. As part of the larger trade barrier negotiations, the Trump administration is actively involved in seeking some regulatory relief for timber exports to Europe, specifically challenging the EU’s restrictions on fumigation for Southern Yellow Pine chips. This was once an important market for pulpwood chips, and we’re kind of actively involved in that and seeking to see what happens there. There has also been renewed interest from the European side as we’re looking for European Union deforestation-free regulation compliant fiber. I think there’s definitely a push from our side, and there’s some interest from the other side, and we’ll see how that plays out.
We’re probably going more to what you’re talking about. The volatility and the policy shifts that have happened over the last year or so, I guess I would say, put more risk in large-scale investments for biofuel refineries and things like that currently. We’re still seeing growing demand globally for products such as sustainable fuel and biofuels for those industries that are hard to abate, like aviation and shipping. This opportunity continues to work, but I’d say it’s much more behind the scenes now, so you don’t see as many press releases about it and things like that, as folks are keeping their head down and trying to work through that.
Announced projects in Louisiana and East Texas totaling over $10 billion of investment, and they’re backed by major airlines and some Japanese investors could collectively consume several million tons of woody biomass annually in that area. To date, to the best of our knowledge, none of those have achieved final investment decision, but successful execution of any of those facilities would establish that biofuels market and be a significant new demand for southern timber markets. In addition to that, our land-based solutions team continues to see strong interest in the voluntary carbon market, but not only for IFM projects, also for use of pine biomass for carbon dioxide removal credits. You can think of things like biochar or biocoke and different things like that.
While these individually won’t be as significant as a multi-billion dollar refinery, they are a fraction of the cost to establish, and they’re replicable. You can build one of these for something in the tens of millions of dollars. If you have those in a specific wood basket, it could be meaningful for that area. We continue to work with folks on projects like this and seek that and believe that there’s good opportunities for those in the near future.
Mark Weintraub, Analyst, Seaport Research Partners: Thanks so much.
Conference Operator: The next question in the queue is from Matthew McKellar with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Matthew McKellar, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. First, for me, the comment about the volume of timber destroyed in Georgia through last year’s hurricanes was pretty interesting. Do you have a sense in percentage terms of how much less potential supply there should be in that market over the next few years?
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: I do not have a quantitative percentage. I just have more of anecdotal from driving around and seeing the devastation. I would say it is definitely significant. I mean, Georgia is a large timber production state, so do not get me wrong, there is still a lot of timber there for the existing mills, but it has definitely put a significant dent. When you drive around, there are a lot of stands that were younger harvested than they should have been and a lot of mature stands that were not harvested. I cannot quantify it, but qualitatively, I can say it is definitely going to be impactful for the near term, for sure.
Matthew McKellar, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: Fair enough. That’s helpful. Thank you. Just a quick one on real estate. Are you seeing any differences in strength of rural real estate sales by geography compared to maybe one or two years ago? Thanks.
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Yeah, I wouldn’t say it’s really changed. I mean, our strongest HBU markets continue to be Texas and Florida. Really, that’s where we see the most opportunity. I think it’s worth noting that we have a large portfolio in both areas. If you look at our historical HBU realizations, I think that they’ve generally been sector leading. We expect that that will continue.
Matthew McKellar, Analyst, RBC Capital Markets: Thanks very much. I’ll turn it back.
Conference Operator: The next question in the queue is from Ketan Mamtora with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
Ketan Mamtora, Analyst, BMO Capital Markets: Good morning and thanks for taking my question. Maybe to start with, on the Southern Timber, there’s a pretty nice uptick in that non-timber sales line. Can you just give us some sense of kind of what is driving that and how should we think about it going forward?
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Yes, this is Doug. I’ll take that. Yeah, so that nice uptick you see in Q3 was probably around pipeline easements. We had similar kind of uptick last year in that. These are kind of episodic as they happen, but we do tend to have them almost every year. They come through. It is just coincidence, they happen to be both in the same in the Q3. That is something we see. Particularly as we’ve seen growth in the area and support for the kind of oil and gas industry, as well as carbon capture and storage industries, we see those opportunities for pipelines to continue on going forward. That was kind of a one-time in Q3. That said, we expect to have more of those. We’re in negotiations talking with folks about those.
They kind of continually are in discussions year over year on these things, and they just happen to be when they occur. It’s kind of like real estate. They happen at one time.
Ketan Mamtora, Analyst, BMO Capital Markets: Understood. Okay, now that’s helpful. One more on the pulpwood dynamics. You kind of mentioned a lot of other potential revenue streams. Do you have a sense on how should we think about the timing of some of these things materializing for actual pulpwood demand? Are we talking about a couple of years? Are we talking about three to five years? How would you have a think about it? Because we’ve seen a number of these mill curtailments on the pulp paper side here in the U.S. South. Beyond, if you just keep the cyclical element aside, just structurally, there has been a lot of demand pressure on the pulpwood side.
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Yeah, I think the traditional experiences we’ve heard about it. Georgia-Pacific-Altona River and IP Riverdale and places like that, those are going to be more immediate, obviously. Those are traditional manufacturing where they’re making adjustments. I think those are going to be very short-term. When you talk about things like the biofuels biorefineries, you’re right. I mean, I think those are five years out. Those are not quick. The other ones I mentioned, the smaller ones are generating other uses from biomass, I believe those are shorter-term. Those could be in that several-year type of opportunity. I think that’s one of the things I would say also, just with respect to pulpwood markets, they are very regional. One thing, while we never want to see mills close down as we’ve seen in one area, it tends to help the operating rates in other areas.
We have seen other areas of the opportunities where mills start operating 5% and 10% more than they were before. Hopeful to see those end markets recover for them, and then we see them really start to make progress.
Ketan Mamtora, Analyst, BMO Capital Markets: Got it. That’s in the short term. I’m talking about, let’s say, one to two years. Is there anything you can do to modulate harvest for pulpwood here, given sort of the current pricing dynamics? Do you have kind of much flexibility to do that?
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: There’s some ability. I’d say it’s probably more on the saw log side of things in that a lot of times the pulpwood is coming along. We don’t typically go out and just harvest a pulpwood stand, so it’s often part of the harvest of a saw log stand, or it’s part of our silviculture regime for thinning. You can do some things there, but the reality is a lot of that is part of the process we’re working through. I would say it’s more on the saw log side we have. What more we have is flexibility to move it geographically with our kind of spread from South Carolina to Georgia to Texas across the south.
If we see weakness in a particular market, we can shift away from that market for a period of time and harvest in other areas and hope to see some more balance come back in play. I’d say really being able to shift volumes around across the diversity of the asset is an important part of that process. Caton, this is Mark. I would note that we’ve also been continuing to shift our product mix increasingly towards saw timber. While we saw pretty material decline in pulpwood pricing on a period-over-period basis, the mix of saw timber improved, so the weighted average decline was actually quite a bit less than that. That’s a trend that we expect to continue to increase in that direction. That’s a positive just in terms of long-term outlook.
Ketan Mamtora, Analyst, BMO Capital Markets: Yeah, that’s fair. Thanks for that. I’ll jump back in the queue. Good luck.
Conference Operator: The next question in the queue is from Buck Horne with Raymond James. Your line is open.
Buck Horne, Analyst, Raymond James: Hey, thanks. Good morning. Just a quick question on capital allocation thoughts going into year-end. I fully appreciate that you guys are somewhat limited on repurchases until the deal closes, and you still have to get through the special dividend process and all those calculations. Thinking out maybe into early next year, if this massive public versus private market timber disconnect were to persist, I’m wondering, as you’ve had a chance to kind of evaluate both the combined portfolios, what would your thoughts be around potentially accelerating some non-core timber dispositions to try to prove out this disconnect or reallocate capital to more creative uses?
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Yeah, maybe just at a high level from a capital allocation standpoint, recognizing that we’re anticipating the merger with PotlatchDeltic to close early next year. As we discussed in the merger call a few weeks ago, I’d say that Rayonier and PotlatchDeltic share a very similar philosophy on capital allocation. I’d say we’ve both been nimble and opportunistic with a view towards building long-term value per share. We both shied away from putting out prescriptive targets as market conditions, and the merits of different capital allocation strategies can certainly change over time, and sometimes they can change pretty rapidly. I’d say the playbook we’ve followed historically as two separate companies will likely be very similar going forward as a combined company. We laid out some of those key capital allocation priorities in the presentation materials for the merger call.
That includes maintaining an investment-grade balance sheet, growing our dividend over time, and investing in growth opportunities when we think it makes sense to do so. To your point, we also see share buybacks as very compelling at the current share price, and we expect to have ample flexibility to be opportunistic on that front after we close the merger as well, recognizing that at least in the near term, we will be navigating some of these regulatory hurdles.
Buck Horne, Analyst, Raymond James: Appreciate that. Just kind of as a follow-up, I mean, as it stands today. Kind of obviously the stock price is dynamic and things like that, but if we were in a similar position a few months out from now, what would be a more creative or attractive use of incremental capital for you, potentially repurchases or reinvesting or growing the Potlatch Wood Products division?
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Yeah, again, our philosophy on capital allocation is to play the hand that we’re dealt. Certainly, in the current environment, assuming kind of status quo where the stock price is today on a post-closing basis, we continue to believe that buybacks are very compelling. Again, we view the Wood Products manufacturing business as just another tool in the capital allocation toolkit. If we see an opportunity for a high-return project there, we would certainly evaluate that. We are going to look at that through the same lens as we look at any other capital allocation priority. It is really with a view towards building long-term value per share and what is the best alternative. It is a pretty high bar, though, for external growth right now, kind of given where the stock price sits.
Buck Horne, Analyst, Raymond James: Got it. Very helpful. Thanks, guys. Good luck.
Conference Operator: As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question over the phone, please press star one and record your name. The next question in the queue is from Michael Roxland with Truist Securities. Your line is open.
Michael Roxland, Analyst, Truist Securities: Thank you, Mark, April, Doug, Collin, for taking my questions, and congrats on all the progress.
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Thank you.
Michael Roxland, Analyst, Truist Securities: Doug, just wanted to follow up. Not trying to beat this topic to death here, but just on pulpwood in the U.S. South, you mentioned the potential for once some of these mills are closed for the remaining assets of these companies to run at higher utilization rates, and they would consume more pulpwood. You’re still going to be, it’s still going to be a net loss, though, right? You’re not going to see one for one. Is that fair to say?
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Yes, that’s fair to say. I’d say we’ve seen growth in both the pulp business and the OSB business over time and continue to see more investments in that. To your point, in specific markets, there’s going to be excess pulpwood over demand.
Michael Roxland, Analyst, Truist Securities: Got it. All right, perfect. Thanks for that. Then just on the Pacific Northwest. Last quarter, you mentioned not seeing any tension there. It sounds like those conditions have persisted in 3Q as well. Are there any signs that things are going to change? What are you seeing in the Pacific Northwest? I mean, I think one of the overhangs was maybe going back a quarter or so was lumber inventories in the channel. I think a lot of stuff, from what I’ve been hearing, a lot has been worked through. Wondering if the Pacific Northwest is now positioned in a better place where you could start to see some tensioning, whether it be through less supply or just from maybe even housing picking up in the near term sometime next year.
I need to tell you how the Pacific Northwest and what’s happening and why there’s still a lot of why it’s not as tensioned as I think it should be.
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Yeah, sure. Kind of hit two questions there, I think. One thing kind of on just going back on the pulpwood side of things, and obviously a lot of questions around that, I think. On that, a lot of questions have been around basically how we see those things. And one thing I talk about is that one of the things we’ve seen where we’ve had the pulp mill closures in our operating area is that like the IP mills that closed in the Savannah area, we have eight other major pulpwood outlets within 100 mi of that shuttered mill, basically. Kind of different than some places where a mill shut down and then there wasn’t much demand there. We still have quite a few mills that are within a short distance or a short minimal haul distance of our operating region there in that northeast corner.
While we see those impacts are significant, I think the hurricane impacts have also been a major impact in that area. We are still working through what that looks like and contends there. We are optimistic that those improved operating rates that I mentioned before at these other mills will help in some of that process of offsetting that, and fiber will find its way around, just kind of following up on that one. Moving to the Northwest, you are right, that market has softened a little bit in recent months, and that was not what we kind of thought we were going into here. Earlier, there was a pretty substantial premium on Douglas fir lumber that helped support log pricing, but that premium has eroded as we just have not seen that end demand really grow as much as we thought.
Last call we talked about before the tariffs went in place, that there was a considerable amount of lumber that came from Canada into the Pacific Northwest and really all the way into Houston, basically, into the United States. I think we’re still seeing with the more muted demand working through that as we go forward. I think that’s part of why we haven’t seen that kind of response that we thought we would see. The good news is most facilities, they have spare capacity and they can ramp up quickly, to your point. If we start to see that end demand happen, I think we’ll see some improvement there. Log inventories this type of year typically start to get constrained by weather. That’s an important part of this process.
Lumber inventories right now in that area in particular still remain a bit elevated. That is something we need to see work through. In the South, I’ve heard of some mills basically taking some slower production time going through the holidays, basically, and trying to come out of the year with lean inventories as they move forward. They just do not want that inventory on their books. I think we are seeing a little bit in the Northwest also. We have heard about some recent mills talking about taking some downtime and shutting some shifts down. I think what we are seeing is folks are trying to kind of constrain and restrict that lumber inventory. They built up thinking things are going to go great when the tariffs went in place. We have seen that kind of muted demand still need that housing and repair remodeling to step back, which.
If we see these, hopefully we see these forecasted reductions in rates going into next year, and we’ll see that happen. I think there’s some optimism, but at the same point in time, people don’t want to just keep cutting wood on top of wood they have. I think you mentioned the China markets, and that has historically been something that provided pricing support. While we don’t have that now, I do believe that the Douglas fir, the SPF market is a strong market, and it can recover very quickly. We’ve seen this happen before in that market where things can swing quite quickly. If we see a housing demand kind of start to rebound, I think it’s going to be one of the first places with the well-tensioned markets, where we’ll see that response come back.
Michael Roxland, Analyst, Truist Securities: Got it. Thanks very much, Doug. Thanks, Ketan. Good luck in the quarter.
Collin Mings, Vice President, Capital Markets and Strategic Planning, Rayonier: Thanks.
Conference Operator: I’m showing no further questions at this time, and we’ll turn the call over to Collin Mings.
Buck Horne, Analyst, Raymond James: All right. This is Collin Mings. I’d like to thank everybody for joining us. Please contact us with any follow-up questions.
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