Earnings call transcript: V2X Inc reports Q1 2025 earnings beat, stock drops

V2X Inc reported its Q1 2025 earnings, revealing an earnings per share (EPS) of $0.98, surpassing the forecast of $0.95. Despite this earnings beat, the company’s revenue of $1.02 billion fell short of the anticipated $1.04 billion. Following the announcement, V2X’s stock experienced a 3.08% decline in after-hours trading, closing at $47.91. According to InvestingPro data, the company maintains a market capitalization of $1.59 billion, with analysts recently revising earnings expectations downward for the upcoming period.

Key Takeaways

• V2X Inc’s EPS exceeded expectations, but revenue missed forecasts.
• The stock fell by 3.08% in after-hours trading.
• The company highlighted significant contract wins and strong growth in the Indo-Pacific region.

Company Performance

V2X Inc demonstrated robust performance in Q1 2025, with a notable 10% year-over-year increase in revenue within the Indo-Pacific region. The company’s net income surged to $8.1 million from $1.1 million in the prior year, reflecting successful cost management and operational efficiency. While InvestingPro analysis indicates the company suffers from weak gross profit margins of 8.11%, the firm reported an improved cash position of $170 million and no outstanding balance on its $500 million revolver. The company’s EBITDA stands at $272.77 million for the last twelve months.

Financial Highlights

• Revenue: $1.02 billion, up 10% YoY in the Indo-Pacific region.
• Adjusted EPS: $0.98, up 9% YoY.
• Net Income: $8.1 million, a significant increase from $1.1 million in the previous year.
• Adjusted EBITDA: $67 million with a 6.6% margin.

Earnings vs. Forecast

V2X Inc’s EPS of $0.98 surpassed the forecast of $0.95, marking a 3.16% surprise. However, the company’s revenue of $1.02 billion came in below the expected $1.04 billion, which may have contributed to the negative market reaction.

Market Reaction

Despite the EPS beat, V2X Inc’s stock fell 3.08% in after-hours trading, closing at $47.91. The stock’s movement contrasts with its recent upward trend, where it reached a 52-week high of $69.75. InvestingPro analysis suggests the stock is currently undervalued, with additional financial health metrics and detailed valuation analysis available through InvestingPro’s comprehensive research reports. The decline suggests investor concerns over the revenue miss and its implications for future growth.

Outlook & Guidance

V2X Inc reaffirmed its 2025 guidance, projecting revenues of $4.4 billion and adjusted EPS of $4.65. The company anticipates back-half weighted revenue growth, with the Weapons Technical Recognition System (WTRS) program expected to contribute approximately $125 million.

Executive Commentary

CEO Jeremy Wensinger expressed optimism about V2X’s future, stating, "We are unlocking value and are excited about the future for our shareholders, customers, and employees." He also highlighted the company’s strategic positioning amid favorable macroeconomic and policy trends.

Risks and Challenges

• Potential revenue shortfalls if key contracts do not materialize as expected.
• Market volatility impacting investor sentiment and stock performance.
• Geopolitical tensions that could affect international operations and contracts.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts inquired about the impact of tariffs and the Continuing Resolution on operations. Management indicated minimal effects from tariffs and only modest disruptions from the resolution. Additionally, the company is exploring mergers and acquisitions and capital deployment options to enhance growth.

Full transcript - V2X Inc (VVX) Q1 2025:

Conference Operator: Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr.

Mike Smith, Corporate Vice President, Treasury, Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Please go ahead sir.

Mike Smith, Corporate Vice President, Treasury, Investor Relations and Corporate Development, V2X: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the V2X first quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. Joining us today are Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer and Sharme Rao, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Slides for today’s presentation are available on the Investor Relations section of our website, gov2x.com.

Please turn to slide two. During today’s presentation, management will be making forward looking statements pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the federal securities laws. Please review our Safe Harbor statements in our press release and presentation materials for a description of some of the factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the results contemplated by these forward looking statements. The company assumes no obligation to update its forward looking statements. In addition, in today’s remarks, we will refer to certain non GAAP financial measures because management believes such measures are useful to investors.

You can find a reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable measure calculated and presented in accordance with GAAP on our slide presentation and in our earnings release filed with the SEC, both of which are available on the Investor Relations section of our website. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Jeremy.

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Thank you, Mike, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Before we get started, I’d like to recognize our team for their contributions and unwavering commitment to our customers’ mission success. This commitment was demonstrated firsthand during the quarter with our customers being awarded a meritorious unit commendation for exceptional performance in training student naval aviators. B2X is proud to have contributed to this achievement by delivering industry leading aircraft and fleet readiness that is yielding unprecedented success in preparing the next generation of naval aviators.

Our people are the foundation of our business. And with that, we are delighted to welcome Mellon Yashula as Chief Human Resources Officer. As we continue to scale globally and invest in growth and our people, Mellon brings the right combination of experience and leadership to help shape the future of our workforce. Please turn to slide three. In today’s call, I’m going to discuss the trends we are seeing in our business, our solid positioning and catalysts in front of us to drive future growth and value creation.

Starting with the first quarter results, revenue was $1,020,000,000 driven by a 10% year over year increase in the Indo Pacific region. Adjusted EBITDA was $67,000,000 consistent with our anticipated quarterly cadence. Adjusted EPS was $0.98 The overall trends in our market remain positive and are being driven by customer requirements to improve deterrence, enhance readiness and strengthen national security. We are performing well as V2X possesses full lifecycle mission driven solutions that deliver on these requirements. The V2X value proposition is being recognized by customers and is demonstrated by our recent awards and extensions which provide substantial visibility for the next several years.

We are leveraging our portfolio of capabilities, geographic footprint and limited recompete cycle to pursue larger opportunities that leverage the full breadth of capabilities that I’ll discuss in further detail shortly. Additionally, the foreign military sales and international markets continue to represent a large and growing opportunity for us to deliver more solutions across areas we’ve already operate. These customers know us and trust us and they see the benefits of our solutions. Our focused engagement strategy and visible presence with customers is yielding substantial traction over several opportunities that align exactly to our core capabilities. I look forward to updating you on these opportunities as they mature here in 2025.

In total, our bid velocity is increasing under the leadership of Roger Mason. Our visibility has improved. We are investing for growth and taking advantage of the tailwinds to drive future bookings, revenue, cash flow and value for our shareholders. Our solid and consistent financial performance once again allowed us to enhance our capital structure, further reducing interest expense and improving key terms of our credit facility. Importantly, our liquidity profile is strong at approximately $650,000,000 There is nothing we have seen to date from tariffs, budgetary requests, administration priorities that would change our strong position in the markets we serve.

Our visibility into future macroeconomic decisions, policy trends, national security and emerging defense budget priorities suggest positive impacts on our current work as well as favorable opportunities for our new business pipeline. Given our first quarter performance, market positioning and visibility, we are remaining confident in our ability to achieve our 2025 commitments. As such, we are reaffirming our guidance. Please turn to slide four. The V2X value proposition is being recognized by customers and is demonstrated by wins and accomplishments that are listed on this slide.

Today, we are with our customers at every phase of execution, playing a critical role delivering comprehensive end to end capabilities that support enduring missions of consequence around the globe. This was recently demonstrated through a $62,000,000 contract with the Space Force to ensure operational readiness of the Cobre Dame radar system in Alaska. B2X is extending the capabilities and readiness of the key radar that supports U. S. Ballistic missile defense and space domain awareness.

On the upper right side of the page and with the same customer, but over 8,000 miles away from Cobre Dame, our value, trust and ability to provide full life cycle solutions was further recognized through $140,000,000 award to support a key Space Force Tracking and Instrumentation Station at the Ascension Island. Ascension Island combined with Cobre Dame showcased our ability to deliver critical capabilities in support of national security at scale across the globe. Z2X is emerging as a critical enabler of our nation’s marquee space domain awareness infrastructure. One of our customers’ major priorities is ensuring our war fighters have the absolute best training in order to deter threats. Additionally, with military recruiting reaching the highest levels in decades, we believe the demand for training solutions continue to grow and receive strong support for overall troop readiness as outlined by the administration.

This emphasis aligns precisely to where V2X is positioned and growing. For example, during the quarter, we were awarded positions on two training service programs, which are listed on the upper middle section of the slide. These wins when combined with our WTRS award completes V2X with the trifecta of premier Army training contracts. From every soldier and every weapon system to every major training installation, V2X supports every stage of the warfighters’ training journey with integrated solutions that enhance preparedness and national security. Another top priority of administration is improving overall readiness capabilities, which is also a core V2X offering and a differentiator.

We deliver readiness, multiplying solutions that are generating some of the highest aircraft readiness rates and are well positioned to capitalize on increasing customer demand. This was most recently demonstrated through a $103,000,000 award to provide engineering, upgrade maintenance and modifications to the Navy’s C-twenty six aircraft. This win highlights the Navy’s confidence in V2X’s ability to deliver mission capable aircraft with industry leading readiness rates north of 90%. Our world class execution backed by customer ratings, global footprint and comprehensive capabilities are creating avenues and opportunities with new customers that want the V2X solution. This was evidenced in the first quarter with $100,000,000 reward with the FBI to make sure the aircraft remain fully mission ready to meet evolving operational demands.

This customer saw the performance, solutions, agility and value V2X is delivering to other customers and sought after V2X to deliver the same operational readiness for their mission. V2X improves customer outcomes with mission match solutions. Our past performance has demonstrated our ability to support some of the highest priority national security requirements every single day. This is what makes us a trusted partner and was further validated with the Army’s notification to extend several of our LOGCAP task orders into June 2030. This combined with our recent awards further strengthens our foundation.

Now I’d like to turn it over to Sean, who will discuss how these achievements are significantly improving our visibility in the base from which we can grow. Sean? Thanks, Jeremy, and good afternoon, everyone. Please turn to slide five. Our year to date success with securing new awards, recompetes and extensions has resulted in significantly reducing the overall percentage of recompetes that comprise our expected 2025 revenue.

The progress we are seeing in efforts that Jeremy just discussed as well as our growth related activities focused on increasing proposal volume and larger scale opportunities bode well for continued growth and value creation. Furthermore, with our awards and extensions, visibility is improving with our top five programs having approximately five years of revenue runway. This provides improved revenue visibility, while also presenting optionality to allocate resources for continued growth. We anticipate the combination of these efforts will yield bookings growth, further strengthening backlog, which already represents approximately three times annual revenue. I’d like to note that at the current time, the LOGCAP extensions and the Space Force Ascension Island award we just discussed are not included in backlog.

Additionally, as previously discussed, we expect to incrementally book activities associated with the Warfighter Training and Readiness Program into backlog as they are transitioned. I’ll now turn it back over to Jeremy to discuss our growth efforts and catalysts. Please turn to Slide six. B2X is in an enviable position with our top five programs extending through mid-twenty twenty nine and beyond. This significant recompete holiday creates a remarkable opportunity to further our focus to win new programs.

We are already well underway capitalizing on this position through accelerating bid velocity. The total volume of bids we plan to submit this year is 50% more than that will be submitted in 2024. We are not only bidding more opportunities, we are bidding bigger pursuits and key franchise programs by leveraging the full depth and breadth of our portfolio. This focus is reflected in the fact that over the next twelve months, we anticipate submitting bids on five opportunities that are valued at or above $1,000,000,000 A majority of these bids require the capabilities from across the company executed as 1b2x to pursue and win thus unlocking a larger pipeline of opportunities to drive future growth. Importantly, we have the proof points that V2X can win large multidimensional programs, which was clearly demonstrated with the recent WTRS award.

Since the award of WTRS, we have incrementally added larger pursuits that leverages the full breadth of V2X and look forward to updating you on the progress as these opportunities are awarded. In addition to harnessing the full capability set of V2X, we are prioritizing key partnerships that further elevate the value proposition of our solutions and expand our global addressable market. These channels have not been a material component of our business in the past, but represent a real near term opportunity to the growth of V2X on a global basis via new channels. I’m excited about the opportunity to capture this expanding addressable market. What I can tell you after being here almost a year is this team has accomplished many things.

Our revenue visibility has increased. Our access and routes to markets have grown. Our bid volume is doubling. Our differentiated ability to train, equip, connect, support, renew and modernize is enabling us to pursue and capture larger and more complex contracts, thus expanding our addressable market. We are unlocking value and are excited about the future for our shareholders, customers and employees.

Now I’d like to turn the call over to Sean for the review of the financials. Please turn to Slide seven. We again are performing well, particularly in light of the overall market environment. We remain on track to achieve our commitments and are confident in the strength and resiliency of our business model that generates strong predictable cash flow. Revenue in the first quarter was $1,020,000,000 This reflects continued growth in the Pacific Region, ramping of the WGRS program and sunsetting of the previously discussed KC-ten and T1a programs.

Adjusted EBITDA in the quarter was $67,000,000 delivering a margin of 6.6%. As we discussed previously, we expect revenue and adjusted EBITDA to be weighted approximately 45% in the first half and 55% in the second half of the year. Interest expense in the first quarter was $19,700,000 Cash interest expense was $18,200,000 improving $7,200,000 or 28% year over year, driven by our successful repricing activities, debt paydown and cash generation. Net income for the quarter was $8,100,000 up from $1,100,000 from the prior year. Adjusted net income was $31,500,000 increasing 10% year over year.

First quarter EPS was $0.25 improving $0.21 from the prior year. Adjusted EPS in the quarter was $0.98 increasing approximately 9% from the prior year. An important attribute of our business is the ability to generate strong cash flow with low capital expenditure requirements. We continue to expect adjusted net cash provided by operating activities to be in the range of $150,000,000 to $170,000,000 for the year, representing over 100% adjusted net income conversion at the midpoint. During the quarter, adjusted net cash used by operating activities was $118,100,000 consistent with our expectations.

Please turn to Slide eight. During the quarter, we continued to demonstrate our steadfast commitment to increasing shareholder value by making further enhancements to our capital structure. Our strong fundamentals and consistent financial performance created a compelling opportunity to reprice and extend both our revolver and Term Loan A. The outcome was extremely positive with the cost of debt on these facilities improving by over 50 basis points. This yields additional interest expense savings and cash flow on top of the benefits announced just last quarter with the successful Term Loan B repricing.

From a liquidity perspective, we are in a strong and enviable position with approximately $170,000,000 of cash on the balance sheet and a $500,000,000 revolver that had a zero balance at the end of the quarter. The strength of our business is in its cash generation and we remain focused on delivering strong predictable cash flow that can be thoughtfully deployed to generate the best returns for shareholders. Please turn to Slide nine. The trends and demand signals in our business remain positive and we believe our strategy, visibility and targeted growth opportunities will yield substantial value creation. As it relates to tariffs, we do not expect a noticeable financial impact from any tariffs that have been discussed thus far.

Given our performance in the first quarter and current trends, the company is reaffirming guidance for 2025. At the midpoint, this reflects revenue of $4,400,000,000 adjusted EBITDA of $313,000,000 adjusted EPS of $4.65 and over 100% net income conversion to cash. In summary, we are pleased with the performance across our business and the start of the year. Our teams continue to execute in a dynamic market, bringing the best of V2X to meet our customers’ critical mission requirements. With that, we’d like to open the call to your questions.

Operator?

Conference Operator: We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from Andre Madrid with BTIG. Please go ahead.

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Yes. Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. You talked about the growth in the international portfolio, but can you maybe talk about international book to bill? Is that something you’d be willing to share?

So hey, Andre, good to hear from you. So we don’t talk about the book to bill by region. I will give a little bit of color on what we’re expecting as we go forward a bit. When we think about where we are in the year, we do have more concentration in expected awards that we believe will contribute to the backlog in fixed price activities, which we’re very encouraged by. You heard Jeremy talk in the prepared remarks around larger scale opportunities that we’re pursuing.

We’re seeing those in the back half of the year predominantly and fixed price in nature. Jeremy anything else? No. Andre, thank you for the question. I think it’s a great question.

And I think as I look at the pipeline and I look at what we have in terms of being awarded as Sean said, we’re excited about getting stuff adjudicated, but we’re also excited about that for which is in the pipeline as I mentioned of around the $5 plus billion of $1,000,000,000 plus awards that we’re talking about. So I’m excited about the opportunity we have in front of us. Got it. Got it. And then I guess beyond deleveraging, I guess what are the other capital deployment priorities that you guys are looking at as you continue to push forward with strong cash generation?

And I guess on that point too, how have you been finding the M and A environment as of late? Yes. I’ll say this Andre. We’re always looking at optionality. Jeremy has said it repeatedly.

The things that will return the greatest value to shareholders are our utmost priority. Relative to M and A, it’s stuff that we’re consistently looking at. We’ve never stopped. We won’t I don’t want to get into specifics on the market itself. Jeremy anything else?

No. What I would say is we’re exceptionally patient. I don’t believe we’re on a burning platform, but I do believe that we are in a position to look at optionality around what is going to create the greatest shareholder value. But again, I think in this market, I think patience is well served. And I think you’ll see us look at optionality as we go out throughout this fiscal year.

Could you give any color on what you guys might even be looking for if that were to be the approach? I think as I if you look at back to when we talked about the wheel, obviously getting more balance in the wheel is something that we would look at as favorable to the shareholders and also the markets we serve. But again, I think patience is probably best served at this point in time to see how the market is going to react to this administration and things that might or might not become available. But again, I think the best thing we can do for the shareholder at this point is try to create greater optionality around what we serve in terms of core markets and that means creating greater balance in terms of how we serve that customer. Think about it from a complementary nature perhaps Andre, right?

When we talk about the things that we do, we do very, very well. It’s training, equipping, deploying, modernization and repair and refurbishment. So those are core capabilities that the company offers and I think you’ll see us stay true to what and who we are. Absolutely. Got it.

Jeremy, Sean, thanks so much for the color as always. Thank you, Andre.

Conference Operator: Our next question is from Peter Arment with Baird. Please go ahead.

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Yeah. Thanks. Good afternoon, Jeremy, Sean, Mike. Nice results. Way to start the year.

Hey, just for clarification, what is left for recompetes for this year? I don’t know if I heard you give a percentage at all? We didn’t. We’re it’s fairly modest. So we started it the year at right around 5% Peter and it’s less it’s right around two between 12% for the total year with recompetes to go.

Great. Great. And then kind of related to what Andre asked around the foreign military sales opportunities. When you’re looking, guess, Jeremy, when you called out these kind of new top five new pursuits that are over kind of $1,000,000,000 are any of those in that bucket on the international side? Yes, they are.

And I think that between that and partnerships that we have opened up with other key partners in the industry, I’m excited about these new channels to market and excited about the opportunity they have for the company, because I think they are channels that have been historically underserved, but represent an opportunity for us as we go forward. Okay. Great. And then just regarding, I guess, Sean on the liquidity side, great progress there and congrats on the repricing and everything else. What’s the expectations for kind of a target on debt reduction for this year?

Yes. Yes. Thanks. We’re very happy obviously. We were below 3%.

We said we would be to see that continue of course in the first quarter very encouraged. We’re comfortable between 23%. There’s always going to be fluctuations to it. The plan will obviously be at the end of the year we’ll be in better position and I see it sequentially improving as we go throughout the year, unless we have anything other to talk about, right? But from a again, the normal cash flow cadence of the business will be back half weighted And that’s the way we see it playing out right now Peter.

Perfect. And just lastly on the extensions and everything else that’s great kind of visibility here for you guys. Just how are we thinking about kind of the when we think about the second half of the year just this is the first time we’re seeing a full year CR. How has it affected your business so far? I’d say from what we’ve seen modest, right?

So we have generally been I won’t say entirely immune, Peter, but by and large CRs have not been perturbations for us. I will highlight one of the things we did see in the quarter and it was modest and very temporary in nature, but we did see some disruption to some funding streams On two small programs, they very quickly restarted and got going. So there were a couple of perturbations, but it was not at all CR related. It was just changes in funding profiles that sort of stuff. Appreciate the color guys.

Nice results. Thanks. Sure. Thank you, Peter. Thank you, Peter.

Conference Operator: The next question is from Trevor Walsh with Citizens JMP. Please go ahead.

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Great. Hey, gents. Thanks for taking the questions. The great to see all the wins kind of across the platform kind of that you laid out Jeremy. But I did notice that the Air Force revenues were down pretty significantly year over year.

I understand there’s some sunsetting of programs that’s probably kind of messing with that a little bit or at least influencing that. Can you provide maybe a little bit of a normalized kind of growth rate absent those sensitive programs? And then maybe just comment generally on how Air Force award activity was progressing in the quarter? Yes. Let me thanks for the question, Trevor.

Let me give you a bit of a walk on the quarter specifically consistent with what we’ve said before, right? So we had the ramp that happened in the quarter on the WTRS program, fairly modest. Again, what we’ve said before is that that will predominantly ramp in the second half of the year. So that was in the $10,000,000 15 dollars ish million range. We had a full quarter of the F5 that we’ve talked about before.

That’s in a comparable range. And then we had the sunsetting programs, again consistent with what we said on KC-ten and T1a. And so that was the downward pressure that you saw there a little bit on the Air Force. But that’s how it played out in the quarter. Nothing really inconsistent with what we talked about previously.

There are ebbs and flows to things as you rightly point out that we see time to time periodically, but nothing that we think is inconsistent with what our expectations were. Great. Thanks, Sean. Maybe sticking with you, although Jeremy feel free to jump in. Also great to hear that the log cap got extended out to 02/1930.

Can you maybe just remind us kind of how much optionality you feel like you have given there’s kind of a new five year time plus time horizon for kind of EBIT or just for earnings margin expansion around that contract specifically in those task orders? Or is this really as we think about kind of where you kind of can gain leverage more in the newer things that you’re bringing on those $1,000,000,000 plus contracts, etcetera, those kind of newer contracts that you can kind of optimize over time? Yeah. If you think where Roger Mason and his team are spending their time, they’re spending it on new awards. To have this type of recompete holiday is it’s a unique position to be in.

And I feel very comfortable that what we’re burning calories on are things that are going to drive additional top line growth. I look at it as an opportunity for the company to like I said through partnerships and through additional markets like foreign military sales to continue the growth trajectory of the company. So I’m very comfortable with what we’re doing in the new market side under Roger’s leadership. Awesome. Maybe one last quick one.

For the tariff kind of impacts, I understand that it’s kind of broadly speaking not necessarily an issue. Is there anything I know this is a smaller kind of piece of the business, but with your more product focused type of efforts like GMR1000 those types of initiatives, Any issues that you kind of foresee? I know they’re small, but just around components or just the pieces of those hardware kind of aspects anything kind of coming on the radar from a tariff perspective there? We haven’t seen anything. We’re doing constant surveillance, if you will, Trevor, to make sure that we’re checking with the supply base and that sort of stuff.

Given the nature of what those things are, largely domestic sourcing. And so we’re not seeing anything with those product based activities. Yes. Makes sense. Great.

Thanks all. Appreciate it. Great results. Thank you. Thanks, Trevor.

Conference Operator: The next question is from Ken Herbert with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Yeah. Hey, Jeremy. Hey, Sean and Mike. Just it sounds like bookings in the first quarter, obviously, the extensions, water, some of the other stuff not in the quarter. Was there anything else that maybe you were expecting to get in the first quarter in terms of bookings that might explain some of

Sean Rao, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, V2X: the book to bill in

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: the quarter and where it ended up? Actually bookings playing out. Let me give a little bit more color on it. We see it very much back half weighted from a bookings profile standpoint for the total year. We’re somewhat consistent with what we saw last year.

We didn’t necessarily see delays. We did see well, I should say we’re more hearing, Ken, on contracting officers, administrative kind of processing of things that sort of stuff, but we didn’t see it result in necessarily changes to expected order intake. Okay. Okay. That’s helpful.

And your forty fivetwenty five sort of first half, second half dynamic implies relatively soft second quarter in sales within a pretty big uptick sort of high single digit growth in the back half. And I think it’s pretty consistent seasonally with what you’ve talked about and obviously some of your awards. But just want to see if there was anything in particular in the second quarter we should keep in mind or that you’d call out that might drive a little bit more weakness, but then also beyond what you’ve outlined already in terms of second half strength anything else in particular that you would say that to really help with confidence on that second half ramp? Yes. Let me provide some clarity on the split.

So on the revenue side, Ken, and you might say we’re splitting hairs here a little bit, but it’s probably slightly it might be closer to 46% on the revenue side and 45% on the profit side in the first half. It’s not perfect. Of course, there’s always timing of material receipts and things of that nature. We saw some of that happen in the end of the first quarter. So nothing material in nature.

And like I said, maybe 46 ish type percent for first half revenue. Okay. That’s perfect, Sean. Thanks. And I guess the second half ramp, I mean, obviously, you’ve called out in your between Waters and a number of other programs, you feel pretty good about that, I guess?

We do. And again, consistent with what we said and I’ll give a little bit of color, WTRS program will ramp really beginning in that July timeframe when transition is complete. That’s to say we’re doing some activities today. Obviously, heard me talk about some of the Q1 numbers, but the ramp was really back half weighted and we’ll get a good second half on that. And then we’ll have the F5, right?

So we’re executing F5, transition was completed late last year, team’s done a wonderful job. And we from a comp standpoint in the back half of the year, we didn’t have that previously. And then again, the KC-ten and T1A headwinds. So nothing that we’ve seen in the first quarter, I’ll say, that is causing any perturbations or difference to what we would expect with that ramp. Perfect.

Thanks, Sean. Appreciate the color. Thanks, Tim.

Conference Operator: The next question is from Jason Gershky with Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Hey, good afternoon everybody. Few questions here. First, can you talk a little bit about any exposure that you might have to GSA buying kind of writ large and whether you’re seeing a push to move any of the work that you’re currently doing more into the purview of the GSA? Not that we’re seeing. I mean, again, of our work in the O and M world is well funded.

It’s part of the priorities of this administration and in terms of readiness. So I don’t see anything today. Okay. Fair enough. Thanks.

And then look, there’s been a bit of a push here by the administration through executive order in particular to go through a bit of a reform process on FAR federal acquisition regulation. I’m just kind of curious what impacts you think this effort might have to the industrial base writ large and to the company here specifically? I think it’s very early in the play to determine how they’re going to go about doing that. Obviously, we’re listening like everybody else is in the industry. But again, I think it’s very early to try to draw a conclusion as to where they’re to go with that.

Okay. Great. And then lastly, I guess, the budget was released on Friday last week, the skinny budget with some top line numbers in it. Not a lot of programmatic stuff, but clearly some indications about spending priorities going forward. The 113,000,000,000 of the $119,000,000,000 plus up for national security spending looks like it’s going be spread across five different buckets Golden Dome, shipbuilding, nuclear deterrence, space domain and protecting the border.

Wondering if you wouldn’t just spend a few minutes talking through the capability set at the company and how it kind of lines up with those five spending priorities that the administration would like to focus on here going forward? Thanks. I think the administration has been very clear about their priority around readiness. And when I look at what we do and Sean had highlighted earlier with regards to training the warfighter, equipping the warfighter, supporting the warfighter and renewing and refreshing that equipment as it’s required. I think those are all things that fit very well with this administration’s priorities.

Again, I know they gave some top line items that they were interested in. But again, if you look at where we are supporting the warfighter, I think they align very well with this administration’s priorities. Because also the geography base, right? We’ve talked about where we are around the globe and how those enduring missions sustain. And I think we’re extremely well positioned.

One of the things that’s exciting if we think about some of our journey here, since the WTRS award last year, when we brought the breadth of the entirety of the company together, you heard Jeremy talk about this, we’re seeing that take root in a number of different areas in various geographies around the globe. So in terms of exactly as Jeremy said, administration priorities as well as geography, we think we’re exceptionally well positioned to continue to be successful. And I think it shows itself honestly Jason with regards to the growth we saw in Into Paycom. I think the administration priorities in terms of that theater, we are well positioned to support the administration and their efforts to fulfill their administration priorities. Okay.

Great. Thanks everybody. Appreciate it. Thanks, Jason.

Conference Operator: The next question is from Tobey Sommer with Truist. Please go ahead. Thanks.

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: From a cadence perspective, could you give us a little bit more color on the principal drivers of the better year over year growth in the back half of the year? Just kind of want to understand the upside and downside risks to the top line of that period? Sure. The back half of this year, it’s and I think I’ve said this before and again nothing’s changed in the first quarter. So I think for the total year, we expect WTRS to contribute an incremental call it $125,000,000 or so and that is predominantly back half weighted.

And then the second half of the year, we get a full two quarters of the F5 and think of that as $50,000,000 okay? So those are really some of that growth in the back half of the year. There’s obviously other things that are coming on and the team is doing a wonderful job of continuing to grow in a variety of areas, but that’s a lot of the back half of the year growth. Thank you. And with respect to your international opportunities, Have the last couple of months with a lot of new decisions coming out of Washington, Has that boosted and enhanced the opportunity or detracted from it?

I don’t think it’s changed it. I think the team that’s doing that work for us has seen persistent demand. Granted they take time. They’re not as clean as some of the RFPs coming out of the U. S.

Government in terms of time schedules. So they do take time. But we’ve not seen any change in in the demand pull from the international market. And the team that’s doing that is doing an exceptional job in terms of serving those customers on a global basis. Appreciate that.

Last one for me. With the deleveraging that has occurred and the repricing of debt sort of up and down the stack, are you at a juncture now where you would, in addition to potentially delevering, look at deploying capital towards acquisitions? Yes. I think I said it earlier. We are continually looking at optionality.

And so again, the team has done a wonderful job delevering as you point out, Tobey. And we’ll look at those things consistently. It could be buybacks. It could be M and A. It could be investing in ourselves, right, in other things.

Those are top of mind consistently. And I’m encouraged the leverage ratio at 2.98 did exactly what we said we were going to go We think it will continue to decline sequentially as we go throughout the year. And I think we’re encouraged by the opportunity set that’s in front of us in those areas. Jeremy anything else to add? No.

I just I think Sean’s right. I think patience is what is awarded right now and we will look at the optionality that is created by the work the team has done to bring the leverage ratio down. But again, I think patience in terms of how do we build shareholder value is front of mind. Thank you very much. Thanks, Tobey.

Conference Operator: The next question is from Joe Gomes with Noble Capital. Please go ahead.

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Good afternoon. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Assuming I did my math correctly here, looks like gross margin was about 75 basis points in the quarter. Just wondering what was the driver for that?

Sorry, say that again, Joe. I didn’t hear you. It looks like gross margin or what I would call the gross margin for the company was up about 75 basis points in the quarter. Was just wondering what was the drivers behind that? I think it’s just some timing of some of the expenses that we had in the quarter versus prior year, but nothing of note that is causing us any either concern or anything other than what we had planned.

Okay. And then one of the things that’s been a benefit for the company historically is some of the exercises that have been done in IndoPave Commons. Wondering are any of those significantly are any significant exercises scheduled for this year and when you would expect to see those occur? We’re doing some today. I will say so you’re exactly right.

This is an odd year an odd number year and therefore those initiatives and activities take place. We have been tasked with very modest support today. We’ll see if having a budget and getting some additional clarity changes that. But right now, we’re often executing some of those activities in the region between now and call it the end of the summer type of timeframe. Okay.

And then one more. And I know you’ve talked about you’re expecting the second half to be bigger than the first half. And we are under that, call it the full year CR. But kind of just through the year to date, how have you seen the pace of awards so far? And are you starting to see any pickup here as maybe we get some little more clarity on budgeting?

I think we saw the awards in the first quarter pretty consistent with what we expected. So we’re very encouraged that the awards will stay on schedule. I think Sean referenced some of the contracting officers having elected to take the offer has created some interesting items in terms of funding profiles. But in terms of awards, we’re very excited about the fact that they stayed on what we thought it would be in the first quarter and we’re excited to get the Ascension Island program up and running. Yes.

To amplify that Joe, we’ve seen albeit modest occasionally and more than previously perhaps some changes in funding. And just for clarity, sometimes we get funded monthly, sometimes we get funded annually, right? Every contract is different. And so changes in personnel, changes in funding streams, whatever can cause some perturbations. That did play out albeit modest in the quarter and we don’t expect anything of material issues or anything going forward.

Great. Thanks for that. Appreciate. Sure.

Conference Operator: Our next question is from Kristine Liwag with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Hey, this is Justin on for Kristine. Thanks for taking the question. Just on the revenue by region, it looked like Middle East revenue was down a little bit this quarter after some pretty nice growth over the past few quarters. So just wondering if anything discrete to call out there or maybe it’s just tougher comps or if anything is related to some of the sunsetting programs you called out? Any color there would be helpful.

Yes. There’s so some mission support activities that we do have done on a consistent basis, if you will. There’s some timing associated with those things. The volume of activities in that region, you’re absolutely right, was down from what we had done before. There are I think you said it probably better than I.

There are some tough comps from a prior year standpoint. We’re nothing outside of what we had planned is what we saw in the quarter. I do think the year over year in the Middle could be down slightly. But again, this team does a wonderful job to respond at a moment’s notice to our customers’ needs. This team did that last year.

Will that continue at the same pace? Hard exactly to say. Everything that we’ve talked about has contemplated it, so nothing unusual. Okay, great. That’s helpful.

And then maybe just quickly circling back to earlier questions around booking trends. It sounds like you’ve a lot of exciting opportunities coming in the back half here, but you’re also expecting some nice revenue acceleration. So I guess net net are you expecting book to bill to be sort of above one for the full year? Say it this way, Justin. From a net bookings standpoint, we expect to add to our backlog.

It’s back half weighted as I’ve said. And I’ll put some other finer points on it just to give color to folks. Think of the first half from a net bookings order intake standpoint 30 to 40% of what we would expect in the total year. And then much obviously much more in the back half more fixed price in nature and more domestic, okay? Some of that is consistent with the awards that we’ve already talked about that are not necessarily in backlog.

Obviously, we expect to end the year with accretive backlog. Okay, great. Super helpful. Thank you. The

Conference Operator: next question is from Noah Poponak Please go ahead.

Sean Rao, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, V2X: Good evening, everyone. Wonder if you could just spend another minute on cash flow just given the use in 1Q. I know it’s seasonally usually a use, but it looks larger than it’s been in the past. Can you just give us a little more detail on what drove that and how cadence shakes out through the rest of the year and what full year free cash to net income conversion you’re looking for?

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Yes. So the adjusted net income to cash conversion in excess of 100% for the total year absolutely back half weighted consistent with what we have. We were if you look year over year, we were slightly down, right? I think we consumed about $83,000,000 last year, about 118,000,000 We had it was absolutely in line with what we expected, a little bit more working capital usage. Nothing that causes us concern at this point.

I would say, we expect to be positive in every subsequent quarter and build throughout the year. So I think in good shape. I would tell you that we saw some very good collections after the quarter closed. And so nothing that’s sticking out as being anything other than what we had planned.

Sean Rao, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, V2X: So maybe just some working capital timing late in the quarter and sliding Precisely. Precisely. Excellent. And then I wanted to ask just with a framework for a year that’s a little back end loaded in a backdrop where funds seem to be flowing a little slower, Is there anything in the back half that you see as risk of sliding into the early part of twenty twenty six? And then I also just wanted to ask, as Waters ramps up, what does the early margin profile look like on that program as we try to map out the margin ramp in addition to the revenue ramp?

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Yes. I’ll start with the last part first and then Jeremy you can add on total year. Relative to Waters, our margins are accretive to when Waters comes online in the second half of the year, they will be accretive to where the company composite is. There’s today that is not necessarily the case Noah. And it’s because of the types of stuff that we’re procuring and things of that nature as we get ready to kind of ramp up.

But it will be like I said accretive to the company’s composite in the back half of the year. If I were to look at our total margin, it’s going to it’s depending on how the growth exactly plays out. You heard me reference $125,000,000 year over year. It’s a few basis points to the company’s composite cost plus margin performance. And I’ll address the awards side.

When I look at where we are in terms of the enviable nature of the recompete holiday that we’re experiencing and I look at the bid volume that Roger and his team are putting out in terms of being 50% more than last year, Provided they stay on schedule, which to date if you look at first quarter, you look at the awards, we have been on schedule with regards to what we thought they were going to award. I’m very excited about the opportunity as we look forward to capture the stuff that we bid and also the stuff that we’re going to bid. So again, I’ve not seen any perturbations to date. But again, I think the work that the team is doing is exceptional. And we’re taking advantage of the opportunities we have in terms of partnerships, foreign military sales and also domestic sales as well.

Sean Rao, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, V2X: Okay. Thank you so much.

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Thanks, Noah.

Conference Operator: Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Jeremy Wensinger, CEO for any closing remarks.

Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, V2X: Thank you everyone for joining today. I really appreciate you taking the time to join us on this first quarter call. The team has done an exceptional job. I’m excited about the opportunity we have in front of us and I think you’ll see these results manifest itself over the next several quarters. So thank you again for joining the call and have a great day.

Thanks.

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